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iv-tecman
07-05-2015, 23:13
Issue 1

Framerate. Its actually abysmal. I cannot put it any politer then this to be brutally honest. It displays the worse case of screen tear I've encountered on my Ps4 since owning it, and i've played a lot of Ps4 games since its purchase in November 2013. the replay performance is at best ok ish but most of the time its bordering on just terrible. Screen tearing is all over the place in replay mode, makes me feel ill looking at the replays, would cause me headaches. Performance within the game is also abysmal with anything over 12 cars on the grid, I cannot understand why there is no v sync option. I'd gladly drop to 30 fps v sync so I think an option for this would be fantastic, game clearly cannot maintain 60fps so no point in not giving the option to cap to 30fps.

Issue 2

DS4 speaker and pit announcements. So, how do I turn off from coming out the speaker on the DS4 and through my TV instead or my headset so as I don't annoy the family if gaming with a headset on?

Issue 3

How do I change ingame gamma? i'm not adjusting my TV brightness for one game when pretty much all other Ps4 games offer brightness adjustments

Issue 4

Pit crew, lovely noise I get when I go in for tire changes, shame I can't actually see anyone doing any work. All the trailers I watched showed a busy pit crew, to me looks a bit, well empty really, and why does the AI at spa when exiting the pit drive me into the pit wall, and any another issue, why does my in helmet cam view change to cockpit view after a pit stop? I have to press square to get my preferred view back

Issue 5

Spectate mode, if I hide the UI I get plonked back into my car, in cockpit view

Issue 6

In replay mode, which to be honest is totally broken anyhow due to tearing and cars seeming to skip around, looks so weird when a car appears to skip forward.. But anyhow, where is the photomode options during replay mode?

Issue 7

Why can't we change settings whilst in game, whilst driving that is, you have to quit to the main menu each time to test settings. So tiresome.

Issue 8

Whilst doing qualification if I cross the line with around 30 seconds left I'd expect to be able to complete my lap and then have to drive to the pits when session over. Nope, you get dumped to a results screen and you can't finish your last flying lap, and you cannot drive to the pits, I remember this basic feature being a part of F1 2010.

Issue 9

If you have steering assist on, if you try and pit, you have to wrestle with the car as the assist attempts to drive you back to the track away from the pit entry lane.

Issue 10

When I earn a trophy my Ps4 takes a screen shot, these screen shots are abysmal. They look blurred and have a second ghost image, I've seen and heard about this on various forums, it is true, this game on Ps4 has image ghosting.

I've found all of these issues with only a few hours worth of play, good game amongst this list, but is there anywhere or anyone who can report this lot to devs?

the worse offender is the screen tearing, its terrible, Not even GT5 on Ps3 performed this badly more so in replay mode.

If FM5 on X1 can run without tearing, then what is this games problem? Understand its got dynamic weather, some heavy physics going on, but has the Ps4 render team not heard of frame capping or triple buffering?

Thanks all, appreciate I've maybe targeted myself and earned instant dislike - but I've paid good money for this game, and it feels totally unfinished and unpolished.

Good Times
08-05-2015, 00:47
Nearly a year late and perhaps still too early? lol. I've experienced issues such as one of the JPS cars has no engine sound in-game, where all the other cars of course do. But on the positive side I'm finding it to be an absolute blast. The engine sounds with everything else is so spot on, makes manual shifting easy without needing to check the tacho every other second.

dvc
08-05-2015, 00:47
I can sign under issues 7, 8 and 6 in this priority.

7 - being unable to change settings at any time is quite annoying.
8 - you should be allowed to finish your lap after checkered flag is out.
6 - replays look bad.

FantasyMeister
08-05-2015, 01:08
The following issues are the most jarring for me personally, would love to see fixes for them asap:

2 - DS4 speaker and pit announcements. So, how do I turn off from coming out the speaker on the DS4 and through my TV instead or my headset so as I don't annoy the family if gaming with a headset on?
10 - When I earn a trophy my Ps4 takes a screen shot, these screen shots are abysmal.

AWK
08-05-2015, 08:06
1, 6, 7 and 8 piss me off. They need to be fixed soon or I'll drop the game. Most underwhelming racing game I've bought in a long time.

Jan Studenski
08-05-2015, 08:16
I answer to my best knowledge and with best intentions:

Issue 4 (Pitcrew):


The animations come postrelease. Otherwise they would be buggy!
That with the camera is pretty sure a known bug
That with the Pit Exit at Spa is a known problem


Issue 5:

I think this is a known bug. And i think they will fix it soon

Issue 7:

Common ... you set up the game once and youre good. I dont know how you can spend more than 1h to set it up. The only long taking thing is setting up the steering, but the presets are mostly pretty good

Issue 8:

I do know that its not done realistic in PCARS, but i think you just have to adjust the behaviour. How - i make an example: If the actual Best lap time is 2:00.000 - then get the timing right to cross the finish line at around 2:10.000 to get one more lap ... in the end its pretty much the same in real world besides that you have 1 more lap there. Tbh this is a very small "thing" - i would call it a "feature"-request. I will post it in the WMD-Forum for you okay? :D I would like to see it aswell :D

Dont worry the devs are reading the threads here :D and im pretty sure most (if not all) Bugs / Problems are on the list to get fixed.

Thank you for reporting the bugs & problems - keep it doing :)

hkraft300
08-05-2015, 08:44
Has anyone noticed a kind of static noise driving the formula cars (PS4)? not sure with other cars but with the Formula cars I noticed some unusual gravel/static noise. seems a little more pronounced through headphones.

Maybe I should just avoid the gravel traps haha

As for the frame-rate issues - I haven't noticed that. Maybe I need glasses.
Proper read about system performance on that link. PS > Xbox I'm sorry :p

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-project-cars-launch-performance-analysis

danowat
08-05-2015, 08:47
Has anyone noticed a kind of static noise driving the formula cars (PS4)? not sure with other cars but with the Formula cars I noticed some unusual gravel/static noise. seems a little more pronounced through headphones.

Could be that you are hearing the "plank" or "skid block" under the chassis making contact with the circuit.

GAT_Montana
08-05-2015, 08:55
I fully agree with the named issues.

One additional Point may be that you wont get any Information in replays what is bad for online leagues. You even cant Change through the field, you solely can follow your own car. it would be highl appreciated to have the same functionality as you have as spectator if you simulate the race.

iv-tecman
08-05-2015, 09:00
Jan many thanks for taking the time to replying as I know I posted a big list.

The frame rate slowly got worse and worse last night. To the point at brands hatch or spa I was seeing white dots across the track. Looked like sparkles wasn't right. I removed the game and downloaded from psn as I've got the digital pre order version , once it downloaded , thankfully its onky a 18 GB download with a 900 mb patch, I rebooted my os4 and rebuilt it's database.

Screen tear in game as now drastically reduced but replay is still a huge mess when viewing relays from track side... Very bad screen tear. So I do think a fps cap and v sync for replays is needed.

I also noticed , formula a sat in pit's no tire warmers in tires, is this something coming with the pit crew add on mentioned?

Another issue, the DTM Mercedes touring cars, all the liveries are bland solid colours, are those to be updated with numbers etc?

And you have warm up laps, this is more a feature request but what about parade lap?

iv-tecman
08-05-2015, 09:00
Jan many thanks for taking the time to replying as I know I posted a big list.

The frame rate slowly got worse and worse last night. To the point at brands hatch or spa I was seeing white dots across the track. Looked like sparkles wasn't right. I removed the game and downloaded from psn as I've got the digital pre order version , once it downloaded , thankfully its onky a 18 GB download with a 900 mb patch, I rebooted my os4 and rebuilt it's database.

Screen tear in game as now drastically reduced but replay is still a huge mess when viewing relays from track side... Very bad screen tear. So I do think a fps cap and v sync for replays is needed.

I also noticed , formula a sat in pit's no tire warmers in tires, is this something coming with the pit crew add on mentioned?

Another issue, the DTM Mercedes touring cars, all the liveries are bland solid colours, are those to be updated with numbers etc?

And you have warm up laps, this is more a feature request but what about parade lap?

GAT_Montana
08-05-2015, 09:04
Another issue, the DTM Mercedes touring cars, all the liveries are bland solid colours, are those to be updated with numbers etc?



This was requested by Mercedes...sounds strange but is fact. Mercedes allows to use the car but not to add real liveries (DTM license) or fictional adverts....dont ask....

iv-tecman
08-05-2015, 09:09
This was requested by Mercedes...sounds strange but is fact. Mercedes allows to use the car but not to add real liveries (DTM license) or fictional adverts....dont ask....

That is bonkers, ok then remove that from my gripe list... What a shame.

More on issue 1, I have found around brands hatch corner 2 with around 20 cars you can see the screen tear. As I said. Reinstall has reduced this issue but it does still remain. That's just one example

evanzo7
08-05-2015, 09:11
Issue 6
In replay mode, which to be honest is totally broken anyhow due to tearing and cars seeming to skip around, looks so weird when a car appears to skip forward.. But anyhow, where is the photomode options during replay mode?

Issue 7
Why can't we change settings whilst in game, whilst driving that is, you have to quit to the main menu each time to test settings. So tiresome.

Issue 8
Whilst doing qualification if I cross the line with around 30 seconds left I'd expect to be able to complete my lap and then have to drive to the pits when session over. Nope, you get dumped to a results screen and you can't finish your last flying lap, and you cannot drive to the pits, I remember this basic feature being a part of F1 2010.

Thanks all, appreciate I've maybe targeted myself and earned instant dislike - but I've paid good money for this game, and it feels totally unfinished and unpolished.

Issue 6 is one of the worst for me. The replays are terrible, I was expecting much much more from such a beautiful game!
Away from the mentioned screen tearing and the cars jumping about the place the lack of variation in cameras is dreadful........well when I say lack of variation there is only one bloody camera angle per section if you know what I mean.
Each lap you say the view lap after lap after lap. Mix it up a little, show us different shots, gives loads of angles, show us parts of the replay from in the car. It is poor to say the least!

Issue 7
This is a real pain especially when your trying to get the best Field of View settings.
For anyone that wants to change more graphical things it can be a chore too. if people want to reduce the glare they won't know if they've done it how they want until they come all the way back to the menus again!

Issue 8
Not a huge issue in comparison to the above ones but another real pain!
There should be an end of quali timer like you get an end of race one in online races.
Just gives people a chance to get that last flying lap in to get the pole!

One thing I would like to add is when racing door to door with the AI, depending what car you are in you can'y always go door to door without it ending badly!
The Escort Mk1 for example, little bit of door rubbing, shouldn't cause any harm but no! Bam! The car flips over the one you are side by side with in what has to be one of the worst looking collisions in gaming history!

Loved this game so far but there is far to many issues!

GAT_Montana
08-05-2015, 09:14
That is bonkers, ok then remove that from my gripe list... What a shame.

More on issue 1, I have found around brands hatch corner 2 with around 20 cars you can see the screen tear. As I said. Reinstall has reduced this issue but it does still remain. That's just one example

Screen tearing could be an issue of your TV settings as well. But ist true, pCars on consoles has 2 siginficant visual restrictions/missing settings: 1.) no VSync and 2.) no option to change the anisotropic filtering to a higher Level (what results in washed out textures)

iv-tecman
08-05-2015, 09:23
Screen tearing could be an issue of your TV settings as well. But ist true, pCars on consoles has 2 siginficant visual restrictions/missing settings: 1.) no VSync and 2.) no option to change the anisotropic filtering to a higher Level (what results in washed out textures)

Its not my TV causing screen tear. I had this same issue with ps3 back in the days of gt5. Screen tearing is a dreadful curse of console gaming , I'd love to have the option to lock fps to 30 fps v sync. Killzone shadow fall for example provides this option.

And not lockong replays to 30 fps is just an awful design choice. And I agree. Replays are terrible in their presentation, no variety and needs a lot of work, I think its a shame they are so bad. I'd think good replays with the sharing functions consoles offer now a days is a perfect way to show off project cars via YouTube etc.. As it is I'd be ashamed to show my replays, not from my racing abilities but due to the woeful performance, screen tear and car skipping...

Hopefully they get some additional work from devs. Even an option to enter photo mode would be a welcomed addition...

davide vr
09-05-2015, 10:02
add also this issue:
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22685-LACK-OF-MULTIPLE-SAVES-OF-CARS-SETUP-AND-SHARING-WITH-FRIENDS

David McKenna
09-05-2015, 12:00
Screen tearing is not caused by your TV!!.

MULTIVITZ
15-05-2015, 21:38
Screen tearing is not caused by your TV!!.
I noticed all of these issues after I had spent over 8 HOURS setting up my controller settings. The next evening I really had some exellent fun playing in career mode. I went back to edit the controller buttons to turn lights on and it wont let me save assignments WTF! Come on, MENU GLITCHES, the problem menu was playing up yesterday and after some button pressing righted itself, but now its stuck, tried resetting the controller settings, now I've lost 8 hours of testing!!!!!! Lucky I can remember most of them? I know they have deadlines, and encrypted files to deal with. These type of errors are unacceptable. Think about it this way, if errors like this get through a tested product, have the producers got the skilled work force to fix them? Alarm bells should be going, but hey, lets wait and see. Mean while I have a game thats totally unplayable(NO JOKE).

Equation
15-05-2015, 21:57
Is there anyone crasshing or freezing problem?

FoxMulder
16-05-2015, 03:30
The screen tearing and skipping is actualy not only a problem in a replay but also happening when the ai driver takes control of the car when you finished your online race and wait for the others to finish. Which essentially makes it a problem of the 'tv camera mode'.

f1-2004
22-05-2015, 01:02
The skipping and tearing does bother me a lot during the replays. I'm no programmer but it bugs me because I keep thinking how something so blatant and visible like this was not fixed before release.

madmax2069
22-05-2015, 05:44
With number 2 if you want the pit crew to go through your headset then all you have to do is hold your PS button till the PS menu pops up, scroll down to and select adjust sound and devices, scroll and select output to headphones and chamge it to all audio. Then youll have all sound even the pit crew come through your headset. But when you unplug the headset it will go back to the sound on the TV and pit crew back on the controller speaker.

You can also adjust the volume of the controller speaker to where its not that loud (it shouldn't be loud enough to annoy anyone.

Kain NL
22-05-2015, 17:18
Try the McLaren F1 tuning settings. At the suspension settings first four sliders are slideable, but the value keeps 0