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eDmond
08-05-2015, 15:51
Hi! First of all, thanks for the awesome game. I've played it for a few hours now and it feels very good, excluding maybe a few cars (f.ex. Caterham Classic), but let's not stick to that.

I have problem with downshifting. If I downshift from high-speed quickly, and of course downshift at the same time, without pressing the throttle at the same time it appears to shift straight to 1st gear eventhough I'd like it to be 4th or 3rd etc.
If I give it a bit of a throttle at the same time, it doesn't happen that often, but still sometimes.

I use Logitech Driving Force Pro on PC with auto-clutch on because the DFP pedals doesn't have one (I've tried with manual button clutch too, but the problem remains).

I've played a lot of racing games with this wheel and haven't had this kind of problems before. I hope that someone knows what is wrong! :D

Mad Al
08-05-2015, 15:58
You using the paddles or the stick to shift, have you tried both and getting the same issue with both?

eDmond
08-05-2015, 17:03
You using the paddles or the stick to shift, have you tried both and getting the same issue with both?

I used paddles, but with the stick it seems to be okay. Surprised that haven't had issues earlier though, but so far the stick works fine. Too bad that there's no secondary options for shifters, could use paddle for upshifting and stick for down :p But thank you anyway, didn't think about this!

Kamikaze_Urmel
08-05-2015, 17:56
I used paddles, but with the stick it seems to be okay. Surprised that haven't had issues earlier though, but so far the stick works fine. Too bad that there's no secondary options for shifters, could use paddle for upshifting and stick for down :p But thank you anyway, didn't think about this!

Could it be your paddle used for downshifting has the "shift down to first gear" action assigned?
Check your wheel settings tab with the key assignements. :p

Mad Al
08-05-2015, 19:53
Probably a switch bounce issue.... there have been a few reports from people with rather well used wheels (try being slow and deliberate with the paddles).. I've never had it happen during the last 3.5 years, on the occasions I tested my own DFP (also I don't use the Logitech profiler.. just the driver)

Infernox CJC
08-05-2015, 20:11
I must say I have experienced the same thing a couple of times with my Driving Force GT. Never noticed it during development though?
As you say, it could be wear as my wheel is certainly well used and I have heard of this happening, or it could be a small bug?

Yorkie065
08-05-2015, 20:18
Yeh I started getting the same issue about 6 months prior to the release. I did report the issue on the WMD forums but not many people mentioned anything about it so I and those who did reply, put it down to the paddles being well used. Turns out a fair few more people have come across the same issue in that time though. I use the sequential shifter on the side of my DFGT now anyway and have gotten used to that. Even if I am slow and deliberate with the paddle shifts, every now and then it skips a gear or two. I'll advise using the sequential shifter until a solution is found or the devs can investigate as to whether it's an issue with the game.

Kato217
09-05-2015, 17:28
First off, fantastic game - thanks to all the Devs.

However, it seems I have a downshifting problem too. First noticed it with the Caterham, then the Formula A, and now the Brands hatch Merc. For reference I have an older Logitech Momo Force. I can upshift fine as fast as I like, but it regularly misses downshifts, especially under braking from 4th to 3rd in the Formula A, and from 3rd to 2nd gear in the Caterham. I thought it was my wheel failing at first, but then I checked the input on DIView to see the Direct Input, and it never misses that button press.

Just wanted to add my 2 cents to say that it may not just be "old wheels".

Thanks.

Update: Turns out there was a fault in a wire internal to my steering wheel. Wire replaced, and now have no missed gears. So in this case it was just an "old wheel"!

Aldo Zampatti
09-05-2015, 17:54
Try to "blip"slightly the gas pedal while downshifting, real drivers do that, and It helps in PCARS :)

Kato217
09-05-2015, 18:52
Try to "blip"slightly the gas pedal while downshifting, real drivers do that, and It helps in PCARS :)

Thanks Aldo - I will try that on the Caterham and Merc, but F1 drivers don't blip between every gear downshifting into a corner.

Just to add that it reliably downshifts on the Formula A car every time from 7th down through 4th, but regularly (not always) misses the shift down to 3rd in turn 4 at the Barcelona GP track, for example. Then at turn 5, it never misses the shift from 4th to 3rd. This is what makes me think it's either a specific mechanic of the car built in to stop a bad shift, or a bug in the code. If the former, then I'd love to hear what that is, and how to avoid it. If the latter, then I imagine the Dev team would be interested to hear it!

Thanks again.

Update: I just reassigned downshifting from the paddle to a button on the wheel, and it hasn't missed a downshift since. Therefore, I would have to conclude that the paddle shifter on my wheel is on its way out :(

Sorry to cause undue alarm! Looks like it's time for a new wheel!

Umer Ahmad
09-05-2015, 19:06
Yes, very fast downshifts on my Logitech G27 dump me to 1st gear. Not sure why and sometimes it's hard to reproduce.

I suggest just downshifting a little more slowly, deliberately and well-spaced for now.

Querer
12-05-2015, 13:14
Same here. Downshifting to fast on my DFGT results sometimes in a straight shift down to the first gear. And no, in my case it is not due to a used button, as my DFGT is basically new. Lucky enough that it does not happen that often and if I am extremely prudent in shifting not to fast, it is basically absent. BUT: a simple option like making the button insensitive for some miliseconds would fix it, also all other shifting problems other users have...

Morgan Henstridge
12-05-2015, 14:17
Yes, very fast downshifts on my Logitech G27 dump me to 1st gear. Not sure why and sometimes it's hard to reproduce.

I suggest just downshifting a little more slowly, deliberately and well-spaced for now.

Umer, do you get this behaviour even with Auto Clutch on??

Taner
12-05-2015, 14:59
I experienced same problem yesterday in GT cars. When I try to downshift, sometimes happens, It goes down directly to 1 from 4 or 5. Before driving GT cars, I had droven Formula A cars around 1 hour and no that issue appeared. If this issue changes car by car, then I am afraid that does not mean hardware problem. I use G-27.

pk4ever
14-05-2015, 11:01
Also having the same problem with my DFGT, doesn't matter how careful I am it will randomly do the 4th to 2nd (or 1st) trick. My wheel has been used quite a bit but I've only recently started using the paddles, so doubt they are worn or on their way out. I also reported this on WMD forums prior to release. Works fine using stick shift.
Also, on other driving games like Dirt Rally I don't have any problems with downshifts, only happens on pCARS.

sneakysuspect
15-05-2015, 18:10
I experiance the same thing on xbox one, sometimes ill downshift and itl skip a gear and downshift twice at once. Really annoying and sends the car out of control and it happens quite often. I thought it was my controller at first bein goofed up but im glad im not the only one experiancing this lol

pk4ever
22-05-2015, 09:26
It's def not the wheel, tested it quite a bit last night using Assetto Corsa and it worked perfectly for up/down shifts - it's only a problem on pCARS I'm afraid.

F2kSel
23-05-2015, 21:50
Also getting an extra down shift, so far it's only happened in the RUF-8, Oulton International and mostly in the same corner.
I think it even changed once when I didn't even have my fingers on the paddles.

As others have said testing in other games seems to produce no issues

Maces
28-07-2015, 06:28
I created something for a 3D printer. It will be delivered by a friend of mine this week.
The prototype allready worked and feeled pretty well and avoided all not needed shifts.

https://www.tinkercad.com/things/eOEA7JusvVx/t725.png?t=55b21ca2
https://www.tinkercad.com/things/eOEA7JusvVx-dfgt-driving-force-gt-paddle-shifter-mod

A strong doubleside tape, one rubberband and two zipties are needed.

With this drawings a great DFGT paddle shifter mod can be created for nearly nothing.

Maces
04-08-2015, 07:07
Here my forums thread from Pcars-forum.de translated by goolge. Maybe I will deliver a good translation, but this should be enough to take a look into it.
https://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcars-forum.de%2Fthema%2F3694-logitech-driving-force-gt-paddle-shifter-mod%2F


http://www.pcars-forum.de/attachment/2542-20150803-180836-jpg/



The Zipties will be exchanged with black ones to match with the wheel.

Racer Pro
04-08-2015, 07:29
Here my forums thread from Pcars-forum.de translated by goolge. Maybe I will deliver a good translation, but this should be enough to take a look into it.
https://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcars-forum.de%2Fthema%2F3694-logitech-driving-force-gt-paddle-shifter-mod%2F


http://www.pcars-forum.de/attachment/2539-20150803-175859-jpg/


http://www.pcars-forum.de/attachment/2542-20150803-180836-jpg/



The Zipties will be exchanged with black ones to match with the wheel.its look so cheap

Maces
04-08-2015, 08:11
Maybe because it is cheap. Less than 10 Euros for all parts incl. printing costs. And it works pretty well. When the zipties are exchanged or completly removed, depands on the adhesive force of the double sided tape, it looks even better.


And you will not see anything from the back. Use a black rubber band and black zippties and it is very discreetly

http://www.pcars-forum.de/attachment/2543-20150803-180844-jpg/

Maces
05-08-2015, 07:07
http://www.pcars-forum.de/attachment/2551-20150804-211829-jpg/

http://www.pcars-forum.de/attachment/2554-20150805-072754-jpg/

http://www.pcars-forum.de/attachment/2555-20150805-072801-jpg/

Please tell me again, how cheap it looks. For less than 10 Euros.

Mattyking101
11-10-2017, 18:40
Can any1 help me,noob on here,1st off GREAT GAME,defanetly a good upgrade from pcars1,my down shift is realy unresponsive when i down shift fast,it works when im in gear 4 but as soon as im in gear 5 or 6 and go down the gears fast it realy slow,this only started since the new update today,im litrely 2seconds slower than yesterday,