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Liquid7394
25-11-2015, 20:53
Just had 5 people have their game crash in a league race.

Zenzic
25-11-2015, 21:51
Make that six. 6 out of 14 had their game crash. I was in the same league race Liquid is referring to: LMP1 at Spa. These were the lobby settings:

Qualifying: 15 min
Race: 72 min - 37 laps
Weather: Sync to race, based on Google weather. Slot 1: overcast, slot 2: overcast, slot 3: medium clouds, slot 4: medium clouds.
Time: 25 Nov 2015, 15:00 PM
Time progression: x20
Force interior view: No
Force manual gears: No
Force realistic driving aids: Yes
Damage: Full damage
Mechanical failures: Yes
Tire wear: Real
Fuel usage: Real
Flags and penalties: On
Tuning: Free

I've been able to take all these "minor" issues we had up until now in good spirits, but losing half the field due to game crashes is getting ridiculous. I am really looking forward to an updated official response on this matter, since the latest one - dating back to September 2nd - is getting quite stale:


Thanks for all the reports. We are having a look at the crash data send to Sony.

We will keep you updated.

maxx69
25-11-2015, 22:58
Yeah snap , really disappointed, could and should have been a great race .
I was one of the few of us who made it to the end but had to put up with hitting invisible ( what felt like blocks) in the road .

Grumbi85
26-11-2015, 18:09
Hello everybody,
first post searching for help and hope for this crash issue:
Shortly after release of the game I started the career and finished the first season. In december of the first year, there is the 24h of Le Mans race. I completed the qualifying and wanted to do the race. I put the settings to 1%, so the race would last 2 hours in real time. I did two tries but each time, after about 1 hour in race, the PlayStation completely froze. Because I cant skip this race, I decided to put the game aside.
Yesterday I wanted to give it another try because many many patched occured in the meantime ^^ But the result was nearly the same. When I enter the calendar of the career mode, I can just choose the 24h Le Mans. I did about an hour of the race, again, and again the game crashed. At least, the PlayStation did not freeze, but the game crashed with a bluescreen and I got back to the PlayStation main menu.
As I said, I cant skip that race in career mode apparently because I already completed the qualifying.

Is there anything I can do right now? I read something about turning internet off at the PlayStation settings or something?

Any help is appreciated :>

alunian
27-11-2015, 23:34
Hello everybody,
first post searching for help and hope for this crash issue:
Shortly after release of the game I started the career and finished the first season. In december of the first year, there is the 24h of Le Mans race. I completed the qualifying and wanted to do the race. I put the settings to 1%, so the race would last 2 hours in real time. I did two tries but each time, after about 1 hour in race, the PlayStation completely froze. Because I cant skip this race, I decided to put the game aside.
Yesterday I wanted to give it another try because many many patched occured in the meantime ^^ But the result was nearly the same. When I enter the calendar of the career mode, I can just choose the 24h Le Mans. I did about an hour of the race, again, and again the game crashed. At least, the PlayStation did not freeze, but the game crashed with a bluescreen and I got back to the PlayStation main menu.
As I said, I cant skip that race in career mode apparently because I already completed the qualifying.

Is there anything I can do right now? I read something about turning internet off at the PlayStation settings or something?

Any help is appreciated :>


Yes it was me in this very thread that suggested switching the internet connection off on the PS4.

Go to Settings then Network then remove the tick from Connect to Network/Internet (cant remember exact wording) it helps a lot with preventing the game from crashing.

Also I suggest once you complete a qualifying session exit and the game will ask if you want to save, select yes if your happy with the time and then exit all the way back to the main menu then go back into career and start the race.

As a last resort, You can skip the Le Mans 24 Hours, simply start the race pause and select the option that takes you to the pits, it will warn you that you will be leaving/quitting the race.

Equation
28-11-2015, 19:30
I was driving Nürburgring GP with Formula A. Game mode was Free Practice and I had Jack Spade FFB setups, normal car setups. Weather was dry and clock in game was 14. I drove maybe 4-5 laps and game crashed in turn 5. Error code was CE-34878-0 and I send the crash report.

Hope you can fix these issues.

svenvangent
28-11-2015, 19:49
PS4 .......

track : Old Silverstone .
Car : Ford MK IV
Weather : clear
Time : 11.00 AM

Issue : crash to the main screen and steering wheel go's totally to the right while doing a AI race at old Silverstone with the MK IV and lotus 40 second lap .

Edit : AI set on 90% , they do 1:32.and a cigar
AI set on 100% , they do 1:32.and 2 cigars
AI go's loco on track while racing them .

Tip to solve the problems ..... stay of the weed/lsd guy's it is not working .

Equation
29-11-2015, 19:10
Again I was training in Free Practice mode and game crashed. Error code was CE-34878-0 and error log sended.

Track: Oschersleben
Car: Mercedes-AMG C-Klasse Coupé DTM
Turn where crashed: 16
Time & weather: Clock 14 and dry weather

My reaction: COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!

Liquid7394
02-12-2015, 20:54
Just had 1 guy's game crash, then 4 others immediately afterward. Great job guys, 5 crashes in the span of 30 secs.

And another guy's game froze during his pit stop.

Zenzic
02-12-2015, 21:52
It's been about 7 months and I'm now in a situation where I juggle family life to fit in PCars just to watch it crash. But hey, it's no biggie. I'll just play PCars less and less until I'm totally fed up with it. And since I'm feeling more and more alienated from this game I also no longer have the urge to follow up on this forum or PCars news. And for obvious reasons I'm no longer planning on buying Sony VR either. So I definitely have to thank you guys for saving me money and time.

I suspect that your game code is a mess you can't make heads nor tails of anymore, hence no predictability when changing stuff around. That would explain why you keep on introducing new and bigger issues with these patches. Every month it probably all gets screwed up just a bit more and becomes a bit more unmanageable. But hey, punching out new content earns more money than optimizing and stabilizing the game, am I right?

https://media.giphy.com/media/120va91b3Ok4aA/giphy.gif

ElMister
02-12-2015, 22:16
Just had 1 guy's game crash, then 4 others immediately afterward. Great job guys, 5 crashes in the span of 30 secs.

And another guy's game froze during his pit stop.

To back this up, here's a video on it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNaHHlFpnrg

Liquid7394
03-12-2015, 19:36
Are these game crashes going to be fixed anytime soon?

hornet66
05-12-2015, 12:09
It's been about 7 months and I'm now in a situation where I juggle family life to fit in PCars just to watch it crash. But hey, it's no biggie. I'll just play PCars less and less until I'm totally fed up with it. And since I'm feeling more and more alienated from this game I also no longer have the urge to follow up on this forum or PCars news. And for obvious reasons I'm no longer planning on buying Sony VR either. So I definitely have to thank you guys for saving me money and time.

I suspect that your game code is a mess you can't make heads nor tails of anymore, hence no predictability when changing stuff around. That would explain why you keep on introducing new and bigger issues with these patches. Every month it probably all gets screwed up just a bit more and becomes a bit more unmanageable. But hey, punching out new content earns more money than optimizing and stabilizing the game, am I right?

https://media.giphy.com/media/120va91b3Ok4aA/giphy.gif

I dont even know if the devs look at the console issues anymore,they seem to coment less and less,seems its ok if your on PC platform though.
Like i said in my post #249,i love the game but am getting fed up with the ongoing issues,little things missing like saving multiple set-ups which is available in a lot of`other`games springs to mind.Unfortunately i more than likely wont be bothering with Pcars2 after this experience.A different game altogether i know but Driveclub has almost got it right after a crap start and seems to get better,no sim i know but i wouldnt call pcars a sim really.Advanced driving game but not sim.Just saying...

Jbpd
05-12-2015, 14:15
Total crash to blue screen in free practice at silverstone Classic in lotus 49c half way down hanger straight

flatspunout
06-12-2015, 02:36
Spa online, 20 laps, GT3. Leading by 8 seconds on lap 20, crash to blue screen. Delete all data, rebuilt database, and reinstalled for 6.0. For some reason every time the game crashes I think about the Blues Brothers behind chicken wire at Bob's Country Bunker.

"That ain't no Hank Williams song!"

Equation
06-12-2015, 12:51
I think, that I take a break of this game, because of these crashes and freezes. I watch this game after next patch.

racer-mika
06-12-2015, 14:22
I tried the realtime 24 hours challenge (Le Mans in career mode) and the game crashed four times. Anyone got advice to prevent the game from crashing?

Liquid7394
06-12-2015, 15:37
I think someone suggested disconnecting your PS4 from the Internet completely. I've no idea if it works though.

racer-mika
07-12-2015, 18:13
It wasn't connected to internet. The game simply freezed but the ps4 kept running. There was also a big drop in frame rate.

Liquid7394
07-12-2015, 21:45
That sucks. Unfortunately I have no other advice, these issues probably won't be fixed anytime soon.

svenvangent
12-12-2015, 11:22
PS4 ...... patch 6.0

track : Sonoma GP
Car : Yello Birdy
weather : Clear /11:AM
Isseu : crash main menu

svenvangent
12-12-2015, 17:29
PS4 ...... patch 6.0

track : Sonoma GP
Car : Formula C
weather : Clear /11:AM
Isseu : crash main menu

svenvangent
12-12-2015, 17:30
PS4 ...... patch 6.0

track : Sonoma GP
Car : Formula C and Ford escort
weather : Clear /11:AM
Isseu : Grinding of the steering wheel / trust in the Master T300 RS

Zenzic
13-12-2015, 08:27
Game froze when choosing "exit" in free practice. I heard the engine sound that usually accompanies the loading screen, but the image just stayed on the pit box menu.

Equation
15-12-2015, 23:13
7.0 patch is out and I am back in bisnes. Today I started new career. Karting Sprint Cup series race day 1 and 2 was pretty good, but 3. day there was little problem.

Controler: Thrustmaster T500RS
Mode: Career
Tour: Torque
Car: 125CC Kart
Cam: Helmet cam
Race: Kart UK Sprint Cup 3/3 Race 2
Track: Chesterfield
Weather:Sunny, Haze
Problem: Game freezed for 2 secs and then it continue. Little but annoying problem. I can't say which lap, that happened,but I think maybe 8-10 lap. I didn't use HUD and I race full race 15 laps and it happened middle of race.
Error messages: Nope. Game didn't crashed.
Where: That turn in video 0:27-0:28. That video doesn't be associated with this bug. I didn't find track profile anywhere so I put that video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3HppzozzXo

Roger Prynne
15-12-2015, 23:21
I don't think a 2 sec freeze is much to worry about in a 15 lap race.... it probably happens to the best of us at times.

fbetes
15-12-2015, 23:24
223897

2 times since patch 7...

Equation
15-12-2015, 23:30
I don't think a 2 sec freeze is much to worry about in a 15 lap race.... it probably happens to the best of us at times.

Not much, little shaking racing rythm and cut flow, but still reporting. Sometimes these kind of little things help fix bigger issues. Never know.


223897

2 times since patch 7...

Can you tell more information? Example game mode, track, car etc.

fbetes
16-12-2015, 00:21
Single race: 10 laps, game freezes lap 8/10. The game goes to black, my wheel turn right, and Sony dashboard appears with the log report.

Gt3 Car (BMW Z4), Silverstone GP track.
Fanatec 911 Turbo S wheel.

flatspunout
16-12-2015, 18:17
I don't think a 2 sec freeze is much to worry about in a 15 lap race.... it probably happens to the best of us at times.

Seriously, what kind of response is this? "It happens to the best of us"? Since when does skill of the player factor into whether or not a game is buggy? And if that two second freeze is on lap 14 of 15 at the top of Eau Rouge, it IS much to worry about. SMH

Roger Prynne
16-12-2015, 19:03
I wasn't meaning skill at all, just saying that it probably happens to most of us at some point.
It doesn't have to be the game it's self, as it could just be a hardware glitch of some sort (maybe)

No need to get your panties in a twist.

scottm18
17-12-2015, 01:52
my game crashes every time i race with 2 to 6 of my friends with 7 AI drivers at 80%.

we run imola with 15 laps driving vintage formula B cars at about the 4th or 7th lap sometimes 10th or last.

.it has crashed about 5 times now.

SUBGTRACER
17-12-2015, 02:29
I don't think a 2 sec freeze is much to worry about in a 15 lap race.... it probably happens to the best of us at times.

I have never had this happen on ps4 . Had corrupt files 3 times but not this. It is very unstable , can corrupt you at any moment :(

Then back to the start with all the FFB settings and so on , that's even more frustrating than the corruption.

Charlie2k
17-12-2015, 08:11
The game crashes much more with the new patch 7.0. Did you notice that?

Btw, we have now again the invisible walls, that crashes your car and ruin your race (online races)

If I have time, then I will put the videos of that issues.

Info:
Private race
12 players
Circuit: Montmelo
24 laps
BMW Z4 (all)
Activated UDP (5) for app Pcars Dash
Weather: 3 slots (Rain, flog and Sun) 13h
Host: Me (I have 1GB/200MB)
I use steering wheel (T300)
Transmiting race on youtube

Xx-Rickdj82-Xx
17-12-2015, 08:32
People who are saying they have to re-start from scratch after their pcars profile gets corrupted you really should be saving it to a USB and the cloud storage I've had mine corrupted twice now and thankfully my USB and the cloud storage have saved me starting again

svenvangent
20-12-2015, 21:42
PS4 ....... patch 7.0

Track : Zolder.
Car : BMW M1 rodeo car .
Race : against the AI at 90% .
weather : bloody hot damn hot hot hot hot .
Shoe Size : between 42 and 43.

Issue : for no reason in the middle of my race the game decided to go to the main screen .
Could go back to the race but ....imagine , you are just doing a online race

Mascot
20-12-2015, 21:59
I can't drive for more than a minute now without the game freezing or crashing, every single time. Seems a LOT worse with patch 7 and even MORE unstable since I started using the companion app, but my wheel keeps disconnecting so it might be a hardware issue there.

Bloody annoying, whatever it is.

Afterlithe
22-12-2015, 19:40
Still crashing PS4 to home screen after patch 7.0. I stopped playing since the 2.0 patch was so bad and had hoped that 7.0 fixed the issues. Looks like I'll have to wait for Gran Turismo 7 on ps4.

svenvangent
27-12-2015, 14:38
PS4 ....... patch 7.0

Track : Old Silverstone.
Car : Formula Renault 3.5 .
Race : Practice .
weather : clear .


Issue : Crash to the main screen .

hdh
30-12-2015, 22:16
Up until patch 7.0 I can't recall the game crashing once. Post 7.0 I've had two instances where the game crashes to the main menu.

flatspunout
31-12-2015, 07:57
Up until patch 7.0 I can't recall the game crashing once. Post 7.0 I've had two instances where the game crashes to the main menu.

I've had 60+ crashes up until 7.0, and only one since. How is everyone having such different experiences on a console? Is the game particularly sensitive to hardware differences within the PS4's? I'm sure Sony changes OEM component vendors over a console's life cycle, I've seen it in 360's that I have taken apart and Sony is probably no different right?

twotonetommy
08-01-2016, 03:37
The game crashed again today. I have played two different times and both times it crashed at least once.

Scenario:
- Joined online race that someone else setup
- I created a private party room prior to joining the race - three people were included in the party
- Crashed just before the start finish line in qualifying when it was about to record a lap. I think that was my third lap prior to going to the pits. It stuttered and then boom.

Equation
08-01-2016, 10:53
I don't know what this was, but I don't wan't new topic. I drived free practice. LMP1 car at Le Mans 24 h, when I going to turn 4, screen going black for 3 seconds.Then screen is back. Happened one time, but I want report because its very annoying if you drive Le Mans 24 h race and that happens.
This ain't happened in other games.

svenvangent
08-01-2016, 17:40
PS4 ........ 7.00

Track : Oulton Park Inter
Car : Kart 250 cc
Weather : clean
Time : 11.00 AM
Race : against 19 AI opponents .

Issue ..... crash to the main menu .

Equation
11-01-2016, 18:11
When I was choosing car to Time Trial game crashed. Before that I was at Time Trial, but Iwas selected wrong car and then I go back to Time Trial garage and game crashed.

EDIT: Error code was CE-34878-0

Minstrel27
25-01-2016, 05:07
It crashed for me 3 hours into the 24 hour at Le Mans. It would be nice to be able to save the game mid endurance race to give the PS4 a break.

Mascot
25-01-2016, 10:13
I can't drive for more than a minute now without the game freezing or crashing, every single time. Seems a LOT worse with patch 7 and even MORE unstable since I started using the companion app, but my wheel keeps disconnecting so it might be a hardware issue there.

Bloody annoying, whatever it is.

Just an update to this: it transpires my wheel (Fanatec CSR Elite) had failing FFB motors. I swapped them for new and since then I've had NO disconnections or loss of FFB, and not a single crash-to-dash. If anyone is experiencing a lot of problems with pCARS then please check your hardware and connections because it might not be the game's fault.

ChrisK
25-01-2016, 11:59
I've only had one lobby disconnect since patch 8. No other issues. No ffb crashes either. Don't know if that's a coincidence or there's actually been an improvement made. A massive improvement in stability so far.

The lag stutter in quali as players join/leave is a lot worse though.

Mascot
25-01-2016, 12:10
I've only had one lobby disconnect since patch 8. No other issues. No ffb crashes either. Don't know if that's a coincidence or there's actually been an improvement made. A massive improvement in stability so far.

The lag stutter in quali as players join/leave is a lot worse though.

Yeah, I noticed this too. Very weird.

Marrrfooo
25-01-2016, 12:50
I've had 2x crashes since 8.0 but both have come with pre-cursory stutters.

One was an offline free practice using the BMW M1 Procar @ Nurburgring GP (12pm/June-1/1x time progression). I got to about lap 6 and came around the final bend through the racing line and the game FPS dropped for around a third of a second and then carried on - it's noticeable that it does it for a split second and then continues. In fact it felt a lot like a lag stutter when someone joins a lobby. I completed the lap and carried on for the next lap and came around the bend again doing the same and it stuttered in the same way but rather than carry on it crashed to black screen and then quickly thereafter the desktop - although the FFB didn't continually try and force my wheel left (as a counterbalance to me turning right on the final bend) it just settled back into neutral position - which is unusual as previous crashes used to force/lock your wheel to one side and require a disconnect/re-connect.

The other situation was an online race @ Watkins Glen using Radical SR8. 8 lap race (I didn't host but it was dry and daylight). Came around the final right hander tight to the inside on the full configuration of the circuit and it stuttered for a split second. Came around again in the same way and as the wheel got to around 90 degrees and I stopped rotating it and instead held it through the corner it went again (only this time in first place on the last lap whilst leading - lol!).

Although I don't get them often they certainly seem to happen when the wheel is under stress - not undue stress - but it's most often on turns that require at least 90 degrees wheel rotation, usually a hold of the wheel as you come through a medium/long turn.

Wonder if it's a failure to process a calculation for an FFB response - although that would mean pad players don't get them but I bet they do...

Mascot
25-01-2016, 13:11
I've had 2x crashes since 8.0 but both have come with pre-cursory stutters.

One was an offline free practice using the BMW M1 Procar @ Nurburgring GP (12pm/June-1/1x time progression). I got to about lap 6 and came around the final bend through the racing line and the game FPS dropped for around a third of a second and then carried on - it's noticeable that it does it for a split second and then continues. In fact it felt a lot like a lag stutter when someone joins a lobby. I completed the lap and carried on for the next lap and came around the bend again doing the same and it stuttered in the same way but rather than carry on it crashed to black screen and then quickly thereafter the desktop - although the FFB didn't continually try and force my wheel left (as a counterbalance to me turning right on the final bend) it just settled back into neutral position - which is unusual as previous crashes used to force/lock your wheel to one side and require a disconnect/re-connect.

The other situation was an online race @ Watkins Glen using Radical SR8. 8 lap race (I didn't host but it was dry and daylight). Came around the final right hander tight to the inside on the full configuration of the circuit and it stuttered for a split second. Came around again in the same way and as the wheel got to around 90 degrees and I stopped rotating it and instead held it through the corner it went again (only this time in first place on the last lap whilst leading - lol!).

Although I don't get them often they certainly seem to happen when the wheel is under stress - not undue stress - but it's most often on turns that require at least 90 degrees wheel rotation, usually a hold of the wheel as you come through a medium/long turn.

Wonder if it's a failure to process a calculation for an FFB response - although that would mean pad players don't get them but I bet they do...

My game would crash when turning the wheel before I fitted the new motors (but not if I turned FFB down to like 20% or so). Hope your wheel isn't on the way out mate...

Marrrfooo
25-01-2016, 13:20
My game would crash when turning the wheel before I fitted the new motors (but not if I turned FFB down to like 20% or so). Hope your wheel isn't on the way out mate...

I don't think so but... I've had very few issues and have always run my wheel at either 70-75% FFB rather than full. And I would have thought a voltage issue would more likely cause a d/c rather than a full crash. Weren't the majority of your issues pre-motor change d/c's rather than full crashes?

Mascot
25-01-2016, 15:04
I don't think so but... I've had very few issues and have always run my wheel at either 70-75% FFB rather than full. And I would have thought a voltage issue would more likely cause a d/c rather than a full crash. Weren't the majority of your issues pre-motor change d/c's rather than full crashes?

It was a combo of both, it seemed. Some crashes-to-dash, some disconnections. Had no crashes since changing the motors, and I'd get at least one per session before then.

Boskapongen
25-01-2016, 15:35
Funny, thats a theory i also have. Before i hade 50% Tire Force, almost no crashes, changed to default settings a while that has 100% TF. Suddenly i got crashes every day. Usually in a corners with much FFB. Now i took it down again to 80% and much better.

Mascot
25-01-2016, 16:17
Funny, thats a theory i also have. Before i hade 50% Tire Force, almost no crashes, changed to default settings a while that has 100% TF. Suddenly i got crashes every day. Usually in a corners with much FFB. Now i took it down again to 80% and much better.

Hopefully something for the devs to investigate.

Marrrfooo
25-01-2016, 16:28
Funny, thats a theory i also have. Before i hade 50% Tire Force, almost no crashes, changed to default settings a while that has 100% TF. Suddenly i got crashes every day. Usually in a corners with much FFB. Now i took it down again to 80% and much better.

What's your FFB level @?

I have my tyre force @ 100 but the overall FFB output @ 75...

Boskapongen
25-01-2016, 17:02
What's your FFB level @?

I have my tyre force @ 100 but the overall FFB output @ 75...

100, "they" say never touch main FFB, just tire force.

Haiden
25-01-2016, 22:22
I don't think you should run TF and FF both at 100, unless you have a way of attenuating the game's force output before it hits your wheel, like a PC driver control panel, or on wheel settings like the Fanatec wheels. You have to choose one or the other to run at 100. But running them both at 100 will work the crap out of Thrustmaster and Logitech wheels on console where there is no attenuation happening between the game and wheel.

madtrucker08
25-01-2016, 22:43
After clicking "X" at the start screen, the game hesitates and a green screen flashes up. Once it opens to the main menu, everything is locked except for the quick weekend option. I would like to know how i can fix this on my PS4. Everything else works fine on the console so it has to be something with the game file. I've reinstalled it several times at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Haiden
25-01-2016, 22:48
After clicking "X" at the start screen, the game hesitates and a green screen flashes up. Once it opens to the main menu, everything is locked except for the quick weekend option. I would like to know how i can fix this on my PS4. Everything else works fine on the console so it has to be something with the game file. I've reinstalled it several times at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Did you delete all of the application data and cloud files, before reinstalling?

ChrisK
26-01-2016, 01:35
What's your FFB level @?

I have my tyre force @ 100 but the overall FFB output @ 75...

you get better feel for the car when you turn the tyre force down. running it at 100 drowns out all the minor ffb inputs imo and it makes it harder to knows what the car is doing.
TF 70 FFB 95

Marrrfooo
26-01-2016, 08:05
I don't think you should run TF and FF both at 100, unless you have a way of attenuating the game's force output before it hits your wheel, like a PC driver control panel, or on wheel settings like the Fanatec wheels. You have to choose one or the other to run at 100. But running them both at 100 will work the crap out of Thrustmaster and Logitech wheels on console where there is no attenuation happening between the game and wheel.


you get better feel for the car when you turn the tyre force down. running it at 100 drowns out all the minor ffb inputs imo and it makes it harder to knows what the car is doing.
TF 70 FFB 95

Cheers both of you - I definitely thought that having both at 100 was likely to be a way to wear ANY wheel into dust (being a bit extreme - but still).

I'll give dropping the TF and upping the FFB a try and see how that feels. :)