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tonyNOS
11-05-2015, 14:49
First of all sorry for my horrible english.

Well , in these days, words like bug and glitch are overused,I'm not here to say that I found one, I just want to understand what happens.

I always used right analogic stick for manual transmission, but since i play with Project Cars i have a particolar issue, sooner or later the transmission goes crazy and performs an instant downshift from 6th to 1th with the consequences you can imagine.

I have this problem with fresh car, 10 lap car , seems like it's not correlated with the mechanical wear of the car.

Of course i use automatic clutch and i don't have assigned a button with 1th gear properly.

Here a video example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBq8eWugn_M

Ian Bell
11-05-2015, 14:51
First of all sorry for my horrible english.

Well , in these days, words like bug and glitch are overused,I'm not here to say that I found one, I just want to understand what happens.

I always used right analogic stick for manual transmission, but since i play with Project Cars i have a particolar issue, sooner or later the transmission goes crazy and performs an instant downshift from 6th to 1th with the consequences you can imagine.

I have this problem with fresh car, 10 lap car , seems like it's not correlated with the mechanical wear of the car.

Of course i use automatic clutch and i don't have assigned a button with 1th gear properly.

Here a video example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBq8eWugn_M

This is due to transmission damage normally.

Franco Ferrari
11-05-2015, 15:13
I always used right analogic stick for manual transmission



What do you mean with "always"?
Do you mean in other games?

My two cents: using the "analog" stick to control a "digital" value... is going to give you the same results you'd have using a "digital" controller to control an "analog" value (i.e. using the keyboard to steer)... which is not "optimal", to use an euphemism.
An analog controller will rarely return a "100% ON" or "100% OFF" value, but a value in between the two... and it's value is constantly changing during it's use.
In my opinion the game "feels" every change of the value as a "new actuation"... and therefore performs a new action accordingly.
This results in multiple gear changes.

The problem here is that the Clio sequential shifter should not "allow" such fast gear change, in real life... so this should be avoided providing a brief "delay" between a gear selection and the next one (just like "slow" manual geared cars have built-in delays, e.g. the 98T or Escort), so it's probably a car-related bug of some sort... a really hard to find bug also .
This would probably be checked by the Devs.

In the meantime, I'd suggest to use a button pair as the gear control.

tonyNOS
11-05-2015, 15:56
What do you mean with "always"?
Do you mean in other games?

My two cents: using the "analog" stick to control a "digital" value... is going to give you the same results you'd have using a "digital" controller to control an "analog" value (i.e. using the keyboard to steer)... which is not "optimal", to use an euphemism.
An analog controller will rarely return a "100% ON" or "100% OFF" value, but a value in between the two... and it's value is constantly changing during it's use.
In my opinion the game "feels" every change of the value as a "new actuation"... and therefore performs a new action accordingly.
This results in multiple gear changes.

The problem here is that the Clio sequential shifter should not "allow" such fast gear change, in real life... so this should be avoided providing a brief "delay" between a gear selection and the next one (just like "slow" manual geared cars have built-in delays, e.g. the 98T or Escort), so it's probably a car-related bug of some sort... a really hard to find bug also .
This would probably be checked by the Devs.

In the meantime, I'd suggest to use a button pair as the gear control.Yes i mean in other games. It's strange, because analogic DS4 can not be different from DS3 or XBOX360 controller, so as you say, by the way i agree with your reasoning, it's the game that interprets input incorrectly.

I don't know if it's relevant, but I tried to change the values of clutch sensitivity and deadzone,without success; there are a lot of problem with italian translation,automatic clutch is traslated like automatic transmission, so a lot of confusion here with the set up.
I thought that using the right stick, the game interprets it as a real shift lever, which has to go to the bottom in order to make the change, with the result of scratching, so I put on deadzone 0 and sensitivity on 100, after I changed the language in English I understand why not work.

rbl
11-05-2015, 16:13
Try to turn off damage to see if it's transmission damage or a problem with controller

s1yfa
11-05-2015, 16:25
I put on deadzone 0 and sensitivity on 100

Switch that around to a high deadzone and low sensitivity value - that should encourage the game to recognise a full stick throw as one input. At the moment the slightest touch will register, which might be causing your issue.

tonyNOS
12-05-2015, 10:47
From boot to blow up in 3 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXxS8ATifYc

I was trying the s1yfa solution, everything was going well, this morning I was simulating a race with a friend, but after 4 laps of the same problem again.
I think for now I give up, I'm spending more time blowing up engines that regulate set-up.

HeeseyChelmet
12-05-2015, 12:13
What do you mean with "always"?
Do you mean in other games?

My two cents: using the "analog" stick to control a "digital" value... is going to give you the same results you'd have using a "digital" controller to control an "analog" value (i.e. using the keyboard to steer)... which is not "optimal", to use an euphemism.
An analog controller will rarely return a "100% ON" or "100% OFF" value, but a value in between the two... and it's value is constantly changing during it's use.
In my opinion the game "feels" every change of the value as a "new actuation"... and therefore performs a new action accordingly.
This results in multiple gear changes.

The problem here is that the Clio sequential shifter should not "allow" such fast gear change, in real life... so this should be avoided providing a brief "delay" between a gear selection and the next one (just like "slow" manual geared cars have built-in delays, e.g. the 98T or Escort), so it's probably a car-related bug of some sort... a really hard to find bug also .
This would probably be checked by the Devs.

In the meantime, I'd suggest to use a button pair as the gear control.

I've had this happen to me and I use X to shift up and SQUARE to downshift. Happened to me twice to me in the Clio too. Shifted from 5 to 1st and bang!

Beardybrave
12-05-2015, 12:43
I use square to downshift, and frequently get a double downshift in some cars with a single press. It's not a long press either. This is definitely an issue. I've had it blow an engine once.

Beardybrave
12-05-2015, 13:22
Haha! As luck would have it, it just happened to me again. =)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hre1un6g8U

zerogoki
12-05-2015, 14:53
Haha! As luck would have it, it just happened to me again. =)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hre1un6g8U

Just registered to say I'm having this exact same bug, every now and then regardless of the car I get a double downshift (I use square and circle to shift gears). Its extremely annoying, as shown in the video it just locks the rears and sends you round.

Caused me to nearly ragequit when this happened leading on the last lap of a 10 lap race at Cadwell in Formula C (with some rather brutal AI) :mad:

Edit. Note I have tested this with Mechanical Failures and Damage off and it still happens so not a transmission damage issue...

xeronima
12-05-2015, 17:30
Just want to chip in. I've experienced double downshifts on thrust master t300 using the l1 button. Not often though.

Ryzza5
23-05-2015, 08:51
I had this once in the Clio (upshift from 5th to 1st) but only once within a lot of gameplay. Would have been a few months ago.

evanPGH
29-05-2015, 04:29
Just registered because of this issue.

Using the controller, circle to upshift and square to downshift. No assists.

I can no longer get through a race without this happening, rendering the game completely unplayable. Nothing like leading the field with the white flag waiving at Laguna Seca only to have the glitch take me from 4th to 2nd going into 1 and wasting all of my time and effort.

Please tell me there is a fix in the works for this??

Bealdor
29-05-2015, 06:18
FYI:

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22351-Glitch-Dropping-to-1st-from-high-gears&p=950606&viewfull=1#post950606

evanPGH
29-05-2015, 15:42
FYI:

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22351-Glitch-Dropping-to-1st-from-high-gears&p=950606&viewfull=1#post950606

Doesn't always happen with multiple downshifts though. I've been in 5th and pressed the downshift button once and ended up in 3rd.

Also, my PS4 is three months old so my controller is just fine. Need a real fix for this.

Martini Da Gasalini
29-05-2015, 22:57
First of all sorry for my horrible english.

Well , in these days, words like bug and glitch are overused,I'm not here to say that I found one, I just want to understand what happens.

I always used right analogic stick for manual transmission, but since i play with Project Cars i have a particolar issue, sooner or later the transmission goes crazy and performs an instant downshift from 6th to 1th with the consequences you can imagine.

I have this problem with fresh car, 10 lap car , seems like it's not correlated with the mechanical wear of the car.

Of course i use automatic clutch and i don't have assigned a button with 1th gear properly.

Here a video example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBq8eWugn_M


you just blew your granny gear bro :)

lethaLEEkill
29-05-2015, 23:45
i use a h pattern shifter and have the same issue with all cars with seq. gearbox, it happens all the time, i can get through about 1 in 15 laps without it happening. stop blaming everyones hardware and fix this bloody game already!!!!

hellZfirEJP
30-05-2015, 04:10
FYI:

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22351-Glitch-Dropping-to-1st-from-high-gears&p=950606&viewfull=1#post950606

This is not a malfunctioning pad. I have 2 pads. They do the same thing. I remapped the up and downshifts buttons, the same thing. Look at this video i've made:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx-u39jR2CA

Downshifts to 1st gear when i'm upshifting 3rd to 4th or 4th to 5th. If it was a pad problem, it would downshift sequentially, and not go straight to 1st. And it would multipress on others games as well, witch it doesn't.

It's "good" to know a lot of people are having the same problem. It's really annoying because i love the game, but every race this happens with me and kills my race.

Devs, pls take a good look on this. It's a bug. My controller has barelly 6 months of age. Never crashed or anything. It's in perfect condictions.

I hope you don't give this excuse and don't try to look into it. A lot of people having the same problem proves that's a bug.

Beardybrave
15-06-2015, 16:10
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kRPpamFLrLw

Double downshift is still a problem.

Umer Ahmad
15-06-2015, 16:13
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kRPpamFLrLw

Double downshift is still a problem.

Fix coming soon

Mr.Smoke
16-06-2015, 00:00
Had this happen to me once last night on my T100 in a Z4 at Silverstone. Pressed the paddle shifter once to downshift to 3rd but ended up in 2nd gear immediately & lost it going into a corner.