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Ctank
11-05-2015, 15:47
Hello,

so got the game for PS4. Even I use "slow" four wheel drive car like Lancer Evo X, slighest movement of controller stick at speeds around 100km/h makes it feel like Toyota DX with pogo sticks as springs and spin around like crazy.

Tried all kinds of settings, sensitivities from 100 - 0 etc, but all the same. Besides, it is really annoying to wait minute for exiting race, making changes, wait 2 minutes it to load again so can test.

Is it possible to get refund from PS4 store, because this game is unplayable? I played lot of car games before, lets mention Forza which was ok with controller.

If you disagree, please post your controller settings on PS4 please.

Archiekins
11-05-2015, 16:00
Ever tried using the d-pads instead? I find it difficult using the stick because you have to be precise in your movements which im not good at...

Revvin
11-05-2015, 16:06
I use stock settings for sensitivity and take the dead zone off the steering, accelerator and brake axis control and find it to be playable using those settings, might be worth a try.

Ctank
11-05-2015, 16:24
Ever tried using the d-pads instead? I find it difficult using the stick because you have to be precise in your movements which im not good at...

Seriously? No I havent tryed D pads, because we come a long way since Nintendo first version :D

I can't believe why it is so hard, to map in straight curve the horizontal movement of stick, to turning the steering wheel.

Let me be more clear, turn stick left halfway, steering wheel turns halfway left, turn the stick all the way left, wheel turns all the way left.

Archiekins
11-05-2015, 16:25
I use stock settings for sensitivity and take the dead zone off the steering, accelerator and brake axis control and find it to be playable using those settings, might be worth a try.
It'll just take a bit of getting used to...

Vilsui
11-05-2015, 16:27
Controller Preset Mode 2 (Change this first)
Steering Deadzone 0
Steering Sensitivity 0
Throttle Deadzone 0
Throttle Sensitivity 30
Brake Deadzone 0
Brake Sensitivity 60
Clutch Deadzone 0
Clutch Sensitivity 0
Speed Sensitivity 65
Controller Filtering Sensitivity 40
Force Feedback 80
RPM/Gear Display Yes

Controller Preset Mode 2 (Change this first)
Soft Steering Dampering - On
Apply Visual Filtering - Off
Apply Opposite Lock Help - Off

I'm using these and it feels pretty good with most of the cars. May not be for everyone but try them out and see for yourself. I hope you find good settings for your DS4.

Ctank
11-05-2015, 16:32
Thanks mate I will try that, and report on findings!

cha
11-05-2015, 16:56
hi im just about ta try your settings fingers crossed

St4r8ucK
11-05-2015, 17:16
I use stock settings for sensitivity and take the dead zone off the steering, accelerator and brake axis control and find it to be playable using those settings, might be worth a try.

I was about to answer that I use the stock setting with no issue except that some cars are difficult to maintain straight (Sauber C9 @ Le Mans) because of the dead zone. Have to try take this deadzone off for steering tonight! I must say I was concerned about this because I usually play with a G25 on PC but the control with de DS4 is very good IMO. The first streamers on twitch just before the release made me fear that playing with the controller would be impossible and specially in the traffic but I must admit that in fact those streamers were only bad with a controller in hand :p.

Will try to upload a video (no alien time) of me playing with me controller to illustrate this.

msmith1
11-05-2015, 17:17
Im using the DS4 and I find it fine, however going round corners I find myself tapping/flicking the stick in the direction ao my cornering isn't smooth but I guess I'll find a way.

How does eeveryone else use the stick going round bends? Tapping/flicking? Or one constant smooth movement?

Vilsui
11-05-2015, 17:30
Im using the DS4 and I find it fine, however going round corners I find myself tapping/flicking the stick in the direction ao my cornering isn't smooth but I guess I'll find a way.

How does eeveryone else use the stick going round bends? Tapping/flicking? Or one constant smooth movement?

I try to corner with one smooth move. It might take some practise but I think it is the best way to control the cars. Especially with the fastest cars this is really important. I only have ABS on so the cars go off track easily if you're not careful in the corners. I have changed my original DS4 analog sticks to Xbox One sticks and I think they are way better. They are a lot smoother than the orginal DS4 analog sticks.

msmith1
11-05-2015, 17:33
I'll have to try practice doing one smooth movement then lol...I prefer the DS4 sticks myself so will probably keep tthem.

SK8RBOI
11-05-2015, 17:39
I'm pretty smooth with mine with some flicking along the straights. I really think that you just have to get used to it so give it time.

red51992champ
11-05-2015, 18:35
Its not just me then that finds the driving difficult.
After a 15 year stretch in Gran Turismo i feel let down but im trying my hardest to give pc a chance and leave the ps3 disco'd.
think i'll give this deadzone thing a whirl tonight,never heard of such a setting but if its gonna help its gonna help.

hkraft300
11-05-2015, 19:04
You should put a little bit of dead zone at least 5-10 so it's more stable. with 0 dead zone the slightest movement from center will register and make the car react so it'll feel really nervous.
I was pretty good at GT5/6. I had to re-learn everything and start from scratch with this game.
Give it time and practice. GT is arcade. Project Cars is next level for consoles.

Ben_Rogue
11-05-2015, 19:18
I have also found the controls a bit twitchy. I have fiddled with all the settings (which took ages considering you have to exit practice to change settings) and found a fairly playable configuration but cars are still very twitchy at low speeds and occasionally unpredictable at speed. My stick doesn't seem mapped right though as just off centre gives about 20% lock minimum! and at just over 50% input gives full lock 8/. I think they need to explain what the different options do more clearly and to provide better presets, multiple configuration saves and to allow mapping of the sticks for a more accurate steering input.

hkraft300
11-05-2015, 19:20
Try...
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/forumdisplay.php?126-PS4-Technical-Help-amp-Support

Ecfc
11-05-2015, 20:03
I increased steering deadzone slightly so it didn't keep moving around with the slightest touch and actually lowered throttle sensitivity which made the controller slightly more forgiving without just spinning out every time (no assists and I use a ps4 controller)

BigDipper
11-05-2015, 20:16
Hi,

I'm a noob @ racing and had some problems in the begining, getting better each day.
I've set my controller to sensitivity 2. Have been fidling with the view as well and now i'm driving inside the car(no helmet)
You can also try this : Push up the stick and try to use it as a steering wheel.Hope you know what i mean.

Wildie
11-05-2015, 20:16
I found it was our tv even in game mode causes us to over react all down to input lag, so check your tv`s input lag we did and now using a 27in monitor and the difference is day and night, 5ms vs 50ms input lag.

Ctank
11-05-2015, 20:31
I guess you guys who think its "normal", that when turning you have to use stick like moving it fast to directions, are different than me.

I am one who actually have driven a real car, a lot. And I will bet, that wheel controlling this game isn't done so, that you have to wiggle the wheel 1 millimeter from zero to turn, but actual wheel place is what is games steering wheels place.

I do NOT wanna get use to anything, like keeping my tongue on right stick, and pulling left stick with my ear or anything like that , I want it to work like non retarted way please. Make update for us mature people please.

Is that SO HARD, to copy things from million games before, where driving with controller had no problems???

Or are you promoted by desktop steering wheel manufacturers?

I still haven't got an answer, is it possible to get refund to this game from PS Store, because its impossible to play for ones enjoyment?

Sickboy
11-05-2015, 20:41
I don't think the controller with standard settings is that bad. When the tires are cold it will spin out very easily but once they have warmed up I think you have lots of control. They wouldn't have released this game with the ps4 controller being impossible to use. Just practice :)

MarkoBanV
11-05-2015, 20:55
Try standard settings, except
Steering Deadzone 5
Steering Sensitivity 0

BigDipper
11-05-2015, 20:56
I guess you guys who think its "normal", that when turning you have to use stick like moving it fast to directions, are different than me.

I am one who actually have driven a real car, a lot. And I will bet, that wheel controlling this game isn't done so, that you have to wiggle the wheel 1 millimeter from zero to turn, but actual wheel place is what is games steering wheels place.

I do NOT wanna get use to anything, like keeping my tongue on right stick, and pulling left stick with my ear or anything like that , I want it to work like non retarted way please. Make update for us mature people please.

Is that SO HARD, to copy things from million games before, where driving with controller had no problems???

Or are you promoted by desktop steering wheel manufacturers?

I still haven't got an answer, is it possible to get refund to this game from PS Store, because its impossible to play for ones enjoyment?

I drive every day in a real car and ofcourse driving with a controller is not the same as driving a real car.
It just takes practice. This game isnt like the other million games you talk about you could have known that before you bought it.
I know for sure that if you tinker with the setting and keep practicing you will get the hang of it.
I'm 40y old and a slow learner when it comes to gaming but im setting times now.

SpaceMachine
11-05-2015, 21:43
I'm driving the pro handling model with assists set to real and no steering, opposite-lock or braking assistance. It has taken many hours of patience (with an equal number of sheer frustration) to tailor the settings for my dualshock. I'm dumbfounded as to why a better generic configuration wasn't provided as default. During release weekend, I spent more time in the configuration menus than I spent on the track and when I was on the track, half of my time was spent in the gravel or facing the wrong way...

The best advice I can give to all those using a controller is to pay equal attention to the throttle / brake sensitivity and deadzones. Drive with the telemetry on and you will receive far more visual feedback on what the car is actually doing along with the corresponding inputs. You may be very surprised at what you learn here. Give it a try.

Unfortunately, following my hours of fine-tuning the control scheme to suit my 'play style', I've noticed that the handling model seems to differ enormously in certain car types. My configuration allows me to drive a Formula C or the BMW Group 5 with extreme confidence, whereas the Escort RS1600 has me through a hedge backwards. Now, call me pedantic if you like, but that makes no sense. I have driven a MK1 Mexico for real and it was huge, huge fun. In Project Cars it was a fucking nightmare.

Still, there's lots of potential for fun if you choose the right car for your configuration. Persistence is key.

But then of course there's the bat-shit-crazy AI to contend with. I'm not looking forward to career mode. I think that's a real shame, considering how long I've been waiting for this on my PS4.

St4r8ucK
11-05-2015, 21:46
I guess you guys who think its "normal", that when turning you have to use stick like moving it fast to directions, are different than me.

I am one who actually have driven a real car, a lot. And I will bet, that wheel controlling this game isn't done so, that you have to wiggle the wheel 1 millimeter from zero to turn, but actual wheel place is what is games steering wheels place...

I don't understand why you speak about "moving stick fast to direction"... Here is a video I've made with default DS4 setups. Not great driving (slicks under rain :eek:) but it is very different than what you describe...

EDIT : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zljlzTwTt5E

bridga83
11-05-2015, 22:15
Im using the DS4 and I find it fine, however going round corners I find myself tapping/flicking the stick in the direction ao my cornering isn't smooth but I guess I'll find a way.

How does eeveryone else use the stick going round bends? Tapping/flicking? Or one constant smooth movement?

All of the above lol. My new wheel arrives tomorrow so I'm hoping that will improve my cornering.

Helmethead1031
12-05-2015, 01:07
I guess you guys who think its "normal", that when turning you have to use stick like moving it fast to directions, are different than me.

I am one who actually have driven a real car, a lot. And I will bet, that wheel controlling this game isn't done so, that you have to wiggle the wheel 1 millimeter from zero to turn, but actual wheel place is what is games steering wheels place.

I do NOT wanna get use to anything, like keeping my tongue on right stick, and pulling left stick with my ear or anything like that , I want it to work like non retarted way please. Make update for us mature people please.

Is that SO HARD, to copy things from million games before, where driving with controller had no problems???

Or are you promoted by desktop steering wheel manufacturers?

I still haven't got an answer, is it possible to get refund to this game from PS Store, because its impossible to play for ones enjoyment?

Are you trying to be funny??? I understand your frustrations, but to make a statement about having real world experience driving a car and then mentioning using a controller in the same sentence is rediculous. No offense, but you bought a "sim" like racing game and then complain how difficult it is to turn using the sticks. Asking for your money back is a little naive. Gaming is pretty much buyer beware.

If I have misinterpreted your point in this thread, then I apologize in advance for my response.

vipco
12-05-2015, 10:46
I've found the default settings work well with the DS4 pad except with Karts. I have Forza 5 on Xbox One and while not the same game, I much prefer the P Cars handling with a pad compared to Forza 5 handling with a pad. I must admit it was a worry for me when I pre ordered P.CARS how it would handel with a pad, but im really liking the game and am finding it good to play with a standard DS4 pad .

Pablo2008jedi
12-05-2015, 10:52
Controller Preset Mode 2 (Change this first)
Steering Deadzone 0
Steering Sensitivity 0
Throttle Deadzone 0
Throttle Sensitivity 30
Brake Deadzone 0
Brake Sensitivity 60
Clutch Deadzone 0
Clutch Sensitivity 0
Speed Sensitivity 65
Controller Filtering Sensitivity 40
Force Feedback 80
RPM/Gear Display Yes

Controller Preset Mode 2 (Change this first)
Soft Steering Dampering - On
Apply Visual Filtering - Off
Apply Opposite Lock Help - Off

I'm using these and it feels pretty good with most of the cars. May not be for everyone but try them out and see for yourself. I hope you find good settings for your DS4.

I run on a DS4 with a slightly tweaked versions of these above, I try to be as smooth as possible with the steering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FJy_nWoZUo

user-name
12-05-2015, 12:10
For anybody still looking for a decent controller setup or even just a base to start from, have a read of this page (http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?23153-Xbox-One-Controller-Configuration-Guide&p=893380&viewfull=1#post893380) from the Xbox section..
Just because they're written for the Xbox doesn't mean they're irrelevant.

YamahaR68
12-05-2015, 14:38
For anyone that struggles with controller on PS4, here is my settings. I tested it with both 125cc and 250cc karts, as I found they were the most difficult to handle. I tested it with Formula A and also handles way better, the cars don't appear to be so nervous like with default settings. I use pro handling and all assists is turned off. Below is the only settings I changed from the default settings on the game.
Steering Deadzone 75
Steering Sensitivity 25
Throttle Deadzone 75
Throttle Sensitivity 25
Brake Deadzone 75
Brake Sensitivity 25
Hope this will solve the issues experienced with the default settings on the game. Please share your experience with the settings.

Dreco
12-05-2015, 17:30
Try this: steering sensitivity and dead angle (or whatever its called) all the way to 0.

Or:

http://i.imgur.com/u7DV6ibm.jpg

VR46
13-05-2015, 07:56
I'm driving the pro handling model with assists set to real and no steering, opposite-lock or braking assistance. It has taken many hours of patience (with an equal number of sheer frustration) to tailor the settings for my dualshock. I'm dumbfounded as to why a better generic configuration wasn't provided as default. During release weekend, I spent more time in the configuration menus than I spent on the track and when I was on the track, half of my time was spent in the gravel or facing the wrong way...

The best advice I can give to all those using a controller is to pay equal attention to the throttle / brake sensitivity and deadzones. Drive with the telemetry on and you will receive far more visual feedback on what the car is actually doing along with the corresponding inputs. You may be very surprised at what you learn here. Give it a try.

Unfortunately, following my hours of fine-tuning the control scheme to suit my 'play style', I've noticed that the handling model seems to differ enormously in certain car types. My configuration allows me to drive a Formula C or the BMW Group 5 with extreme confidence, whereas the Escort RS1600 has me through a hedge backwards. Now, call me pedantic if you like, but that makes no sense. I have driven a MK1 Mexico for real and it was huge, huge fun. In Project Cars it was a fucking nightmare.

Still, there's lots of potential for fun if you choose the right car for your configuration. Persistence is key.

But then of course there's the bat-shit-crazy AI to contend with. I'm not looking forward to career mode. I think that's a real shame, considering how long I've been waiting for this on my PS4.

This!

Google is your friend, and patience is key when it comes to adjusting for your ideal input settings. Even when you find them, they may not work with every car.

Oh, and the Mk I is a nightmare. They will be applying a fix. Not so sure about the lunatic/unstoppable/Terminator/aggressive A.I though, but I guess that one will get attention as it's integral to the experience. It's about clean fast racing, yet the AI cars are quite the opposite (and for the love of Jeebus if you think they are bad, try getting a clean race online. It's like Motorstorm Apocalypse.)

Early days yet, I'm sure it'll all get sorted though.

Ecfc
13-05-2015, 08:32
Try the settings by PuntNL seem to work great:

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?21864-Dualshock-4-Controller-Settings-Problems-amp-Solutions

Deadzone
13-05-2015, 09:20
[QUOTE=Dreco;903157]Try this: steering sensitivity and dead angle (or whatever its called) all the way to 0.

It's called the dead zone =)

MrStef85
13-05-2015, 09:20
I don't have issues with the controller.

Chairman7w
13-05-2015, 17:42
I've learned that most "steering" problems I run into, are actually cause I'm simply trying to go too fast at that particular section. When I slow it down a bit my problems lessen considerably.

IrideGravity
13-05-2015, 21:37
Seriously? No I havent tryed D pads, because we come a long way since Nintendo first version :D

I can't believe why it is so hard, to map in straight curve the horizontal movement of stick, to turning the steering wheel.

Let me be more clear, turn stick left halfway, steering wheel turns halfway left, turn the stick all the way left, wheel turns all the way left.

The distance of travel on the stick is a half inch to 3/4 inch. If you can get good feal for a halfway turned wheel at 3/8 of an inch, you have some insane hand eye coordination and motor skills. Nobody has good enough to get down on a controller without massive assists and tweaking the dead zones. Especially in gnarly fast cars. Get a wheel though and enjoy the difference 6-9 full inches of travel in a controller makes. Or just load up on assists and move on. But know most people can't manage a fast twitchy car with a stick without major assists. You are definitely not alone.

9Lives
13-05-2015, 22:39
As soon as I read that the go karts wouldn't steer at low sensitivity I refused to use low sensitivity steering despite a lot of people recommending it for the DS4. I stuck with the deadzone at 5 and the steering sensitivity at 50 and I'm glad I did. i have converted my friends to using a mid to high sensitivity coming from a low recommended sensitivity purely because when it comes to sharp bends I had a clear cut advantage on them. Using a higher sensitivity will pay off in the end if you can get use to it.
If you opt use a higher sensitivity my advice would be get out of habit pushing the stick to the edges and try not to jerk, be as smooth as possible and when countering a spin just move it slightly off centre in the opposite direction before letting it recentre. Enable soft steering dampening and have the steering filtering set high to begin with then gradually lower it down, I have mine set to 45 currently.
Hot lap a circuit and although your times may be slower to begin with you will soon begin to notice the potential of getting faster lap times in the long run.

Joao
16-05-2015, 16:07
I am on PC using a Xbox 360 controller but selecting a generic controller in the menu that I later define buttons. to be able to use. I do nothing more, and at first I was terrible but I can now make times on the middle of the table, beating half the players online or in trials. In races I can get to the first third because I discovered I can be preatty safe on the controler since it has allmost none input lag so I can react real fast.