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Kershy
13-05-2015, 22:07
Obviously not a priority but I just wanted to see whether anybody else noticed the issue regarding blue flags being waved on a hot lap which is false and also regarding the inability of the AI to follow blue flag warning . It doesn't really bother me and this game is fantastic but I just wanted to hear other people's views ..

Mr Akina
13-05-2015, 22:21
You get it when you're being chased by someone for position too. It doesn't seem to know the blue flag rules... Like most racing drivers lol.

RedTags
14-05-2015, 08:33
Why does not the AI move out of way, and get a blue flag, when they are on a outlap and you are on a fast lap in quali?

danowat
14-05-2015, 08:35
Because the feature isn't fully developed yet?, IDK, but it appears to do nothing more than display a notification on screen, no penalty for either the player or AI to get out the way, and the AI pay no attention to it.

Glimiril
14-05-2015, 08:38
They also don't move aside when lapping them either in a race, which is even more critical. I had 2 back markers in 100% race that raced me on a narrow track in Clios, and would not yield the racing line around a very tight track I had to brake around the outside and then swing under and accelerate to get along side , only then did they act accordingly as I was inside for next corner.

Pattynufc
14-05-2015, 10:30
I noticed this the other day when i was doing 30 laps at Watkins Glen. I was lapping and none of the back-markers got out of my way. I eventually got frustrated and dove down the inside only for them to actually hit me, spinning me out. Was not happy afterwards lol

Mr Akina
14-05-2015, 11:35
In a lot of events (in the real world), specifically Endurance racing, a driver receiving a waved Blue Flag is told to stay on the racing line. This makes racing a lot more predictable for the faster cars. As there are no specific rules across the board, it would take some genius coding to get every Blue Flag incident programmed correctly. Just assume they will not make things easy and try to time your passes better.

RedTags
14-05-2015, 12:05
I donīt know if it would be so hard to programmed it correctly, at least slightly correctly. In Codemasters F1 games I think the blue flags make sence and the cars (AI) stays out of the way. And if Codemasters can do it...

Pattynufc
14-05-2015, 12:10
I donīt know if it would be so hard to programmed it correctly, at least slightly correctly. In Codemasters F1 games I think the blue flags make sence and the cars (AI) stays out of the way. And if Codemasters can do it...

Just got there ahead of me with this point.

CorvusCorax
14-05-2015, 12:12
As covered above, F1 has different blue flag rules than many other forms of motorsport such as endurance. It should hardly be surprising that the official F1 licensee implemented the F1 blue flag rules.

twistedvaccine
14-05-2015, 14:45
Official WEC Standing
BLUE: “The driver must hold his or her line because a faster car is trying to overtake. This flag is very important at Le Mans because the GT cars are constantly being passed by the prototypes. The speed differences between the two can be frightening. A waved blue is a more emphatic order.”

I know when i set an Endurance race, and im racing in LMP1 the slower GT cars don't move out the way or abide by the 'Blue Flag' rule and 9/10 end up taking you out ( You can say time your moves, slow down but when you have 10 - 15 other LMP cars on your tail and there's 20 - 30 other slower classes skittered over the track, every second counts) Which sucks when you're 2-3 hours in a race and they screw your car up, but as i keep hearing, this is as real as possible ;) so we cant have this, and we cant have that.. rule for one aspect but not another im beginning to find..

maTech
14-05-2015, 15:04
I think the ai should be a little bit more agressive when overtaking the backmarkers. They definitely loose too much time behind them. So endurance races which last 1 hour or more are too easy to win.
But thats my only problem with the ai.

Cuba
14-05-2015, 17:59
In a lot of events (in the real world), specifically Endurance racing, a driver receiving a waved Blue Flag is told to stay on the racing line. This makes racing a lot more predictable for the faster cars. As there are no specific rules across the board, it would take some genius coding to get every Blue Flag incident programmed correctly. Just assume they will not make things easy and try to time your passes better.

But the reason they are back-markers is because they are slow to begin with. If I'm lapping a back-marker I don't need them to take a different racing line, but I don't want them racing me for position door to door through turns. It's like they become better, faster as you try to lap them. Heck, all they need to do is continue racing in the same manner they did all race to end up in last place...that's consistency.

Cuba
15-05-2015, 11:49
Obviously not a priority but I just wanted to see whether anybody else noticed the issue regarding blue flags being waved on a hot lap which is false and also regarding the inability of the AI to follow blue flag warning . It doesn't really bother me and this game is fantastic but I just wanted to hear other people's views ..

Kershy,
I started my first career mode yesterday in GT3. I didn't notice any flags at all in the race (blue, yellow, white, checkered). I have the option turned on for "Flags and Penalties", is there another area in the menu I need to turn this option on?
Thanks!

TahPope
15-05-2015, 11:53
What frustrates me is that AI ignores blue flags when you lap them. Even if you get side-by-side with them. They should back off a little instead they usually crash into you.

Marrrfooo
15-05-2015, 12:00
Kershy,
I started my first career mode yesterday in GT3. I didn't notice any flags at all in the race (blue, yellow, white, checkered). I have the option turned on for "Flags and Penalties", is there another area in the menu I need to turn this option on?
Thanks!

Cuba, you just haven't come across them yet - it doesn't sound like there's anything in your settings that's preventing it.

It throws them up at rather odd times (blue flags). I've had it do it on occasion for a fast car approaching (i.e. I leave the pits and someone comes flying towards me) but for the mostpart it tends to mis-identify a car behind me trying to overtake me and throws the flag up, or does so in a practice even though it's not very likely a blue flag would be waved in such a non-racing or non-timed manner (as far as I know anyway).

Cuba
15-05-2015, 12:44
Thanks Marrrfooo,
I'll give it a try today. I'll drive slow to see if I get flagged. I see the marshals on the side of the track or in their stand (usually arms crossed looking worthless :chargrined:), but I've NEVER see a flag (any flag) in any part of this game; although I was only mainly doing quick races in Solo mode, not sure if they pop up there or not. I may case a huge pileup in turn one to see if that gets their attention :cocksure:

Mr Akina
15-05-2015, 13:43
I've had it do it on occasion for a fast car approaching (i.e. I leave the pits and someone comes flying towards me)

A good marshal would show you a stationary Blue Flag in that situation as you may not be aware of the car as you exit. Stationary and Waved Blues are two very different beasts - A stationary is that a competitor is closing and a waved Blue is that he's going to overtake (ie. put you a lap down). I don't think this game distinguishes between them though and it's more likely a bug than perfect AI marshaling lol

mkstatto
26-05-2015, 12:15
They clearly dont get any penalty ever or recieve blue flags, either as the leader of the race is coming through or when you are on a hot lap in qualifying. Had a race @Azure and was impossible to get past and they would have recieved the flag three times. Note this has been experianced whilst in career mode.

Max Kelly
26-05-2015, 12:56
unfortunately is a known problem

g33k hack3rs
26-05-2015, 15:15
Yes, very frustrating when this happens. Was in a race in career mode and my engineer told me blue flags will be shown to lap traffic so I should be fine. Was in a heated 3-way battle for first place and some hooligan lapped traffic spun me around. Not that 3rd was a bad spot but after racing hard with only fractions to spare this is very hard to swallow. Racing incidents are fine but the experience is frustrating when lapped traffic don't slow down or a slow car leaves the pits to inhibit your flying qualifying lap. Hope this can be addressed so that AI is under the same rules as the player.

Ian Bell
26-05-2015, 15:15
Duplicate thread, append please mods.

Elmo
27-05-2015, 19:25
Merged threads and moved to feature suggestion

spinkick
27-05-2015, 22:59
blue flag doesnt mean get over as quick as possible, it means hold your line and drive predicatively to allow the lap car to pass as safely as possible. Just because you are a lap down doesnt mean you cant run your race.

mermoid
28-05-2015, 06:43
blue flag doesnt mean get over as quick as possible, it means hold your line and drive predicatively to allow the lap car to pass as safely as possible. Just because you are a lap down doesnt mean you cant run your race.

they don't hold their line though, they start running defensively lines and actively try to prevent you from overtaking

mister dog
28-05-2015, 07:01
Known issue and has been put on Ian's secret confidential very important patch list already :)

nomen nescio
28-05-2015, 16:26
I sometimes get a blue flag when I overtake an AI car and the AI car tries to re-ovetake me. So, why should I let the AI overtake me (blue flag) when I just overtook the AI?
Also, when there is an AI behind me and it doesn't get closer, I still get a blue flag, even when I'm in second or third position trying to win the race.

Somthing's not right with the blue flag thing.

I think, SMS made pCars too complicated. They should have made pCars simple and straight forwars, like AC. :D

spinkick
28-05-2015, 23:40
I sometimes get a blue flag when I overtake an AI car and the AI car tries to re-ovetake me. So, why should I let the AI overtake me (blue flag) when I just overtook the AI?
Also, when there is an AI behind me and it doesn't get closer, I still get a blue flag, even when I'm in second or third position trying to win the race.

Somthing's not right with the blue flag thing.

I think, SMS made pCars too complicated. They should have made pCars simple and straight forwars, like AC. :D

Do you mean hotlaps only and 0 real AI? Because thats how you get AC.