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IrideGravity
14-05-2015, 22:36
Most of the lobbies I'm seeing are for some of the fastest cars in the game, yet when you enter, there's one person in the room , who likely started it, that's dedicated and good enough to post a legit fast time, the rest of the racers just bounce in and out rarely ever putting up a timed lap period due to not being able to stay on track.
Now there are only 15-20 lobbies going at any one time on my lobby list. 2-3 of them might be road cars. The other 12-15 are race cars and the lobbies have literally no competition happening. Usually one committed racer who made the room, going 5 seconds faster picking up the easy wins. There might be 1-3 guys battling for 2-4 at best, but more than half the time, that battle is going to be ruined by someone dirty, unskilled, or both. The rest of the room quits.
Why the hell is everybody driving cars on tracks they have no business on? If you can't post a time, don't drive it.
Here's to hoping that some of you figure out the only way to get faster is to progressively master the slower cars.
Anyway, I'll be scouring the road classes for some legit clean racing in my Ariel Atom 500. See you out there maybe.

dvc
14-05-2015, 22:53
I completely understand you. If I host a race its always aids off, inside view, qualifications, number of laps to make the race last for at least 15-20 minutes. Basically I want it to be real racing.
And if Im very lucky I get some people to join. But then for example If (when Im lucky) 10 people start the race, by the end there's maybe 2 or 3 making it to the finish line. Rest have disconnected. God damn it its 10-20 laps you may be last now but anything can happen. Nobody seems to enjoy the chase and excitement of trying to pass some cars.

But it's all when Im lucky. Usually nobody joins.

I'm saying that Online racing in pCARS is BROKEN at the moment and need to be worked on probably from scratch.

IrideGravity
14-05-2015, 23:18
I completely understand you. If I host a race its always aids off, inside view, qualifications, number of laps to make the race last for at least 15-20 minutes. Basically I want it to be real racing.
And if Im very lucky I get some people to join. But then for example If (when Im lucky) 10 people start the race, by the end there's maybe 2 or 3 making it to the finish line. Rest have disconnected. God damn it its 10-20 laps you may be last now but anything can happen. Nobody seems to enjoy the chase and excitement of trying to pass some cars.

But it's all when Im lucky. Usually nobody joins.

I'm saying that Online racing in pCARS is BROKEN at the moment and need to be worked on probably from scratch.

Sadly, this is the model for online console racing. Online component is an after thought in all games, honestly believe it's network related. It won't get any better until we all have fiber optics or new networks underground. The capacity of our internet networks has easily been reached. I think these bones they throw us are the best they can do or at least are willing to without a monthly fee.
GTurismo was same way. Players had to find their own groups of friends through forum or message boards if they didn't want to be angry the whole time you troll the lobby scene. This online offering is even shallower than that one without host control or customization of rooms. While I do like the fact that randoms can't just set up the room for themselves, it does make it harder to find a handful of racers in the same talent level competing fairly vs each other.

But to the point of the thread, why the hell are people driving fast cars they have no business driving, why are all the lobbies full of amateurish racing? Because people are during way over their skill level!
Hope we see some realization of this sooner than later and the road class races start dominating the lobby's and people actually improve because they can actually follow the lines they see in front. Unti then I'll be honing my skills in the atom, waiting.

FoxMulder
14-05-2015, 23:22
If you want likeminded players that enjoy what you enjoy you have to join a community or racing league. Randoms do what they want.

IrideGravity
14-05-2015, 23:30
If you want likeminded players that enjoy what you enjoy you have to join a community or racing league. Randoms do what they want.

They barely have enough racers to fill the lobbies now, let alone leagues of legit racers. I'll join when I see one that's accepting or recruiting, & implements good rules, but sadly, this is the internet, and it's the clickiest saddest place on the planet. The only thread I saw so far was some Dutch lads who quickly gathered a crew of other euros and Dutch then closed thread and said they had filled up. And it's the only group thread I saw even looking for players.
But if you want me to point me in the right direction. I'd be more than happy to join one that's actively seeking new racers?
Let me know

FoxMulder
14-05-2015, 23:38
I have no idea myself, though I had some pretty cool races online me chasing others and me getting chased for several minutes until someone did a mistake. Or after a failed overtake attempt and contact letting the other guy pass and race on. But of course I had my fair share of first turn total carnage and ramming.

dvc
14-05-2015, 23:59
Unti then I'll be honing my skills in the atom, waiting.


And I will fear of death in my Caterham Superlight :)

dvc
15-05-2015, 00:03
They barely have enough racers to fill the lobbies now, let alone leagues of legit racers. I'll join when I see one that's accepting or recruiting, & implements good rules, but sadly, this is the internet, and it's the clickiest saddest place on the planet. The only thread I saw so far was some Dutch lads who quickly gathered a crew of other euros and Dutch then closed thread and said they had filled up. And it's the only group thread I saw even looking for players.
But if you want me to point me in the right direction. I'd be more than happy to join one that's actively seeking new racers?
Let me know

If there's a group of racers in the UK/EU where you can race properly with respect, but you dont have commit yourself to official races/ leagues etc id happily join too.

IrideGravity
15-05-2015, 00:51
If there's a group of racers in the UK/EU where you can race properly with respect, but you dont have commit yourself to official races/ leagues etc id happily join too.

May I ask if you're sticking to region specific because of network locals? Shorter distances? Seeing a lot of red flag network on my lobby screen. Which I assume means a long distance, high ping to that player.
That said, I have not had any negative lag experience in race. Seem pretty solid regardless of ping I saw in lobby. I do get lag in pre race sessions seemingly every time a player enters or leaves. A fraction of a second of it a few times a lap makes a true flying lap virtually impossible though. Hope that can be sorted out.

McKiernan
15-05-2015, 01:24
May I ask if you're sticking to region specific because of network locals? Shorter distances? Seeing a lot of red flag network on my lobby screen. Which I assume means a long distance, high ping to that player.
That said, I have not had any negative lag experience in race. Seem pretty solid regardless of ping I saw in lobby. I do get lag in pre race sessions seemingly every time a player enters or leaves. A fraction of a second of it a few times a lap makes a true flying lap virtually impossible though. Hope that can be sorted out.

I get that also, only notice it when a player joins the lobby. Haven't noticed any lag during races either.

dvc
15-05-2015, 01:33
May I ask if you're sticking to region specific because of network locals? Shorter distances? Seeing a lot of red flag network on my lobby screen. Which I assume means a long distance, high ping to that player.
That said, I have not had any negative lag experience in race. Seem pretty solid regardless of ping I saw in lobby. I do get lag in pre race sessions seemingly every time a player enters or leaves. A fraction of a second of it a few times a lap makes a true flying lap virtually impossible though. Hope that can be sorted out.

Its about the hours people sleep. But it kinda doesnt make any sense as i work nights lol :D

CrypticSpartan
16-05-2015, 05:48
Most of the lobbies I'm seeing are for some of the fastest cars in the game, yet when you enter, there's one person in the room , who likely started it, that's dedicated and good enough to post a legit fast time, the rest of the racers just bounce in and out rarely ever putting up a timed lap period due to not being able to stay on track.
Now there are only 15-20 lobbies going at any one time on my lobby list. 2-3 of them might be road cars. The other 12-15 are race cars and the lobbies have literally no competition happening. Usually one committed racer who made the room, going 5 seconds faster picking up the easy wins. There might be 1-3 guys battling for 2-4 at best, but more than half the time, that battle is going to be ruined by someone dirty, unskilled, or both. The rest of the room quits.
Why the hell is everybody driving cars on tracks they have no business on? If you can't post a time, don't drive it.
Here's to hoping that some of you figure out the only way to get faster is to progressively master the slower cars.
Anyway, I'll be scouring the road classes for some legit clean racing in my Ariel Atom 500. See you out there maybe.

We're spending hours doing practice laps and tweaking our controller settings by the hour. We shall meet soon sir. All of this effort to avoid damage to your Atom

Wheelzr
16-05-2015, 06:42
Having a few races of the week as a multilayer lobby send like a smart idea, similar to the offline challenges they have.


I'm not a great driver, but I want to get better. Currently I've been practicing a ton in the Caterham super 7, no assists in all weather tires. Really great car to iron out bad habits. if anyone wants to get a race going, you can add me, psn wheelzr

IrideGravity
16-05-2015, 06:49
Having a few races of the week as a multilayer lobby send like a smart idea, similar to the offline challenges they have.


I'm not a great driver, but I want to get better. Currently I've been practicing a ton in the Caterham super 7, no assists in all weather tires. Really great car to iron out bad habits. if anyone wants to get a race going, you can add me, psn wheelzr

Cool. I'll add ya.