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Project censur
18-05-2015, 23:46
Demande de remboursement, pratique intolérable de l'éditeur du jeu: censorship, scam, thief, shameful, baseness

Une arnaque totale, je ne vais pas garder un jeu où l'on me dénigre, me censure. C'est une pratique intolérable et je compte me faire entendre ! Forum, UFC que choisir, 30 millions de consommateurs, ...

Fuyez ce jeu, c’est le résumé du post en 3 mots.
Pourquoi ? C’est simple :
- L'IA joue aux autos tamponneuses, vous avez une réduction de vitesse sur la terre et encore plus sur le sable, néanmoins L'IA n'est pas atteinte. Donc elle vous pousse dans la terre, sort avec vous mais elle roule à 100% et vous double ! Normal !
- Mode carrière inutile, effectivement on a déjà toutes (et peu) de voitures. Je préfère mille fois le mode "gran turismo", avec un choix énorme de voiture, un mode carrière avec des récompenses (voitures exclusives, voitures à débloquer,…).
- 65 voitures, ce n’est clairement pas assez, mais alors là il y en a vraiment très peu. Dans les GT il y a souvent plus de 1000 voitures (GT 6 = 1200), project cars c'est 65 avec l'édition deluxe, c'est abusé. -94% de voitures en moins, je trouve le chiffre aberrant.
- Comportement de certaines voitures complètement à la ramasse, genre la ford escort.
- J'ai l'impression que les voitures volent sur la piste.
- collision totalement irréaliste, pas naturel, par exemple des fois on te tape à 10mph la voiture fait un triple salto ... mais la voiture de l’IA passe sous vous comme si vous étiez une brindille.
- Un mode carrière où l'on te propose des invitations totalement en inadéquation avec la mode de course dans lequel vous êtes en compétition. On ne peut pas faire les invitations après car c'est un mode carrière jour par jour, donc si on saute l'invitation, elle est perdu ... trop débile. Je commence une compétition de X courses à faire, j’aimerai les finir avant de passer à autres choses, pourquoi m’impose-t-on un déroulement ?
- Reflet des néons dans le garage sur les voitures, ça donne de gros pixel affreux. Et puis on a déjà toutes les voitures alors aller les voir dans son garage ça me laisse totalement indifférent, on a rien fait pour les avoirs, aucune course, aucune gratification. Je veux voir la voiture, je vais sur google, la photo ne sera pas de synthèse et de meilleur qualité ...

Je fais un mode carrière, une compétition, tu as une phase d'essai, une phase de qualification, une course 1 et une course 2. Les deux courses c’est la même piste, le même nombre de tours, alors pourquoi ne pas mettre 2 fois plus de tours ?
Bon, je tente, je finis 1er aux essais (même si ça sert à rien), 1er au qualif, donc je suis en pole position pour la course, je remporte la victoire course 1. Et là, la course 2 je me retrouve 16eme sur 16. Je dois remonter toute la file, sauf que l'IA c'est de la daube, les contacts c'est de la crotte, j'ai dû recommencer pas mal de fois (parceque je me fais sortir par l’IA dans le sable, sur le monoplace lors d’un freinage sec tardif une voiture vient encastré sa roue avant entre la roue avant et arrière de ma mono impossible de freiné) alors que la course 1 je mets 15secondes au 2eme en 2 tours ... L'IA qui te rentre volontairement dessus, c'est un contact, c'est interdit non ? Une totale incompréhension. Je prends plus de plaisir sur un "gran tourismo 4" moins beau c’est certain, mais plus de voiture, du rallye, des pistes avec de la pluie pas juste pour faire beau, un garage où tu peux optimiser ta voiture, ... sérieux mis à part un jeu bien fait, pour moi il n'y a aucun intérêt, je ne m'amuse pas.

J'avais tellement hâte, et au final j'y joue parce que je l'ai payé, pas parce que j'aime.
Une grosse déception !!!! Ils vont nous sortir des DLC payant pour avoir des nouvelles voitures à tous les coups ...
Après avoir écrit mon expérience sur le jeu, évaluation et post sur discussion project cars: Je me connecte tardivement à steam, histoire de voir si il n'y a pas des mises à jour, plus particulierment sur un jeu dont la sortie a été repoussé tellement de fois et qui n’est toujours pas abouti (non, je ne parle pas de bf4) et BAF :
" Vous avez été banni de manière permanente des discussions de Project CARS. Vous avez été banni par un modérateur du forum de discussion project CARS ". Lorsque j’arrive sur la discussion project cars
Cependant j’avais ouvert un post, il a été supprimé. Hors il reste une notification de suppression et la surprise : « Notification de ban d'un développeur de Project CARS — Il y a 13 heures
Vous avez été banni de Discussions sur Project CARS
Vous avez été banni de Discussions sur Project CARS par d'un développeur de Project CARS pour votre post dans « Project CARS Discussions générales » : »

Donc un développeur, l’un des nombreux créateurs du jeu, ne donnant aucune explication, vient supprimer mon message et me bannir du forum du jeu ! Je trouve cela incroyable, effectivement venir supprimer des messages sur le forum c’est tellement plus intéressant et facile que de fournir un jeu digne de ce nom. Quelle bassesse. Cela me réconforte dans mon avis plus que négatif sur le jeu, à l’image du développeur en question.

Fuyez ce jeu pauvre fous, vous donnez votre avis/expérience, cela ne leur plait pas, on vous ban et censure !

Demande de remboursement, pratique intolérable de l'éditeur du jeu:

Une arnaque totale, je ne vais pas garder un jeu où l'on me dénigre, me censure. C'est une pratique intolérable et je compte me faire entendre ! Forum, UFC que choisir, 30 millions de consommateurs, ... censorship, scam, thief, shameful, baseness

EmilGlockner
18-05-2015, 23:51
What?

Dreco
18-05-2015, 23:52
English please.

t0daY
18-05-2015, 23:53
What?

Same thought here xD

Neil Hopwood
18-05-2015, 23:53
Holy wall of unformatted text.

o Mike V o
18-05-2015, 23:54
ceci est un forum anglais

t0daY
18-05-2015, 23:54
Baguette? Clio? Renault! Croissant!!

Photonenbert
18-05-2015, 23:55
The standard language in this forum is english and chances are that not many people will get what you wrote, you will also not get that many answers.
but I also think you are not looking for answers at this point.

madmax2069
18-05-2015, 23:56
Took the liberty of translating his post, looks like another whining post

Francorchamps
18-05-2015, 23:56
I think someone should answer in French because this guy really does not understand why he is banned. If you run an international forum for a commercial project try to have a conversation in their language before you ban them. If he does not speak english very well he does not understand what he is doing wrong.

c172fccc
18-05-2015, 23:57
He's unhappy with the game and he got ban from the Project CARS' (steam?) forum.

Shinzah
18-05-2015, 23:58
I believe he said: I don't like the game, pay me for buying it and not liking it.

He also (probably wrongly) claimed he was being censored on the steam forum message boards.

And he also declared his undying love for Gran Turismo and its many versions of the same car.

I believe I have a response for the OP:

Vous ne recevez pas de remboursements parce que vous ne l'aimez pas des produits qui est non Gran Turismo.

Non.

Francorchamps
18-05-2015, 23:59
Oops this is going to be hard to explain to the guy that this is not the site of the organization that sold him the game.

madmax2069
19-05-2015, 00:09
This is what he said (translated)




Refund request, intolerable practice of the publisher of the game: censorship, scam, thief, shameful, baseness

A total scam, I will not keep a game where you denigrate me, my censorship. This is an intolerable practice and I intend to present my! Forum UFC that choose 30 million consumers, ...

Flee this game is the summary of the post in 3 words.
Why? It's simple:
- AI is playing bumper cars, you have a speed reduction on the land and more on the sand, however AI is not reached. So she pushes you into the ground, out with you but she rolls at 100% and you double! Normal!
- Fashion useless career, actually we already have all (and few) cars. I prefer a thousand times how "gran turismo", with a huge choice of car, a fashion career with rewards (exclusive cars, cars to unlock, ...).
- 65 cars, this is clearly not enough, but then there there is really very little. In GT there is often more than 1,000 cars (GT 6 = 1200), project cars is 65 with the deluxe edition is abused. -94% Less cars, I find it absurd figure.
- Behaviour of some cars completely at the picks, the kind ford escort.
- I feel that cars flying down the track.
- Totally unrealistic collision, not natural, such as once you hit yourself to 10mph the car did a triple somersault ... but the car AI passes under you as if you were a twig.
- A career mode where we suggest you invitations totally inadequate with the race mode in which you compete. We can not make the invitations after because it is a day by day career mode, so if you skip the invitation, she is lost ... too stupid. I begin a competition of X errands to run, I'd finish before moving on to other things, why we impose me a course?
- Reflection of neon in the garage on cars, it gives big ugly pixel. And then we have all cars then go see them in his garage that leaves me totally indifferent, there was nothing for the assets, any race, any gratification. I want to see the car, I go to google, the picture will not be synthesis and best quality ...

I make a career mode, a competition, you have a test phase, qualification phase, a race 1 and race 2. The two races are the same track, the same number of laps, so why not to 2 times more rounds?
Well, I try, I finished the first testing (even if it is useless), 1st in qualifying, so I am in pole position for the race, I won the race victory 1. And then, race 2 I end 16th 16. I have to go back on the whole file, except that AI is the stew, Contacts is the shit, I had to start a lot of times (because I'm getting out AI in the sand on the car during a late braking dry a car comes built his front wheel between the front and back of my mono impossible braked) as the race 1 I put 15 seconds on the 2nd in 2 rounds ... The AI ​​who voluntarily returned at you, it's a contact is not forbidden? A complete misunderstanding. I take more pleasure on a "gran tourismo 4" less beautiful to be sure, but more cars, the rally tracks with rain not just to make beautiful, a garage where you can improve your car .. seriously. Apart from a well-made game, for me there's no point, I do not amuse me.

I could not wait, and in the end I play because I paid, not because I love.
A big disappointment !!!! They'll get us out of paying DLC ​​for new cars every time ...
After writing my experience on the game, assessment and post discussions on project cars: I belatedly connects to steam, just to see if there are no updates, most particulierment a game whose release has been pushed so many times and is still not successful (no, I'm not talking about BF 4) and BAF:
"You have been banned permanently discussions Project CARS. You have been banned by a moderator Project CARS discussion forum". When I arrive on discussing project cars
However I opened a post, it was deleted. Outside there is a notification of removal and surprise: "Notification of a ban of developer Project CARS - There are 13 hours
You have been banned from discussion on Project CARS
You have been banned from discussion on Project CARS by a developer of Project CARS for your post in "Project CARS General Discussions": "

So a developer, one of the many game creators, giving no explanation, just delete my message and banish me from the game forums! I find it amazing, actually come delete posts is so much more interesting and easy to provide a game worthy of the name. What vileness. It comforts me that in my more negative opinion about the game, like the developer in question.

Flee this poor crazy game, you give your opinion / experience, this does not please them, they ban you and censorship!

Rebate Application, intolerable practice of the publisher of the game:

A total scam, I will not keep a game where you denigrate me, my censorship. This is an intolerable practice and I intend to present my! Forum UFC that choose 30 million consumers, ... censorship, scam, thief, shameful, baseness

Shinzah
19-05-2015, 00:10
Dat googletranslate-fu tho

EmilGlockner
19-05-2015, 00:10
Quoi?

DUST2DEATH
19-05-2015, 00:13
I think someone should answer in French because this guy really does not understand why he is banned. If you run an international forum for a commercial project try to have a conversation in their language before you ban them. If he does not speak english very well he does not understand what he is doing wrong.

The rule on most forums that are english based is for others that are non-native english speakers to translate their posts first. Its not uncommon, nor is it unreasonable.

Project censur
19-05-2015, 00:42
Skip through the mill a text written in French to translate in English does not make sense. I don't speak English as well as French, I preferred kept the original text. But I try to answer in English.

I like the various gran tourismo, it's forces me to dislike project cars? No I do not think, your comment seems unnecessary. pre-order project cars offers skins for cars, right? What is the difference with the GT in this case? Project cars offer similar cars, only the skin changes for some cars. Will you dare to tell me that the car offers project in cars seems reasonable compared to gran tourismo? If you can read, I mean in terms of gameplay GT4 and GT6 only in terms of numbers of cars. My last car simulation games are gt4 and forza motorsport. I do not think being a "fanboy" gran tourismo.

I purposely to be a little aggressive and demanding in my text because I get banned for giving a negative opinion I find it cowardly knowing that I can no longer meet on the forum (steam) and no explanation, nor answer me not given.

I think I have the right to issue an opinion, a judgment, and I rely on facts and feelings. I am sharing my experience, who is unfortunately not good. I would like to remember to all of you, I also paid for the game. I would have preferred to have a positive experience, but when I explained my dissatisfaction I get banned by a developer for expressing it. You react negatively to my reactions, you do not give any argument except "cliot, renault, ..." unnecessary comment.
You do not find any fault to the game and be banned for expressing a feeling?

Patrik Marek
19-05-2015, 00:48
well if someone came into project Cars with expectations of new /next Gran Turismo, then his expectations were clearly wrong.

this is not to say that Gran Turismo is bad, I love Gran turismo even through all the huge problems they have with that franchise.
But pCARS is something totally different

in Project cars the emphasis is on quality, not quantity

GT might have 1200 cars, but most of them drive very similar to each other, wheres in pcars they all are somewhat unique

Umer Ahmad
19-05-2015, 00:53
Where's sagedavid when you need him?

Monsieur: What is it you want? Fix game? Money Back? Information? Help?

Nobody gets banned for negative opinion or question tres facile.

Project censur
19-05-2015, 01:08
Please excuse me but I have created a discussion on steam and exposed my opinion which was unfortunately negative. Banished permanently on project cars discussion by an "admin of the forum project cars" and my post was deleted by a "developer of project cars". So don't called me that there is no banned for negative opinions, I do not invent and scrupulously copied names. I have not had a recall on my spelling, my language, I have just been banned. I had the game on 15 may, I was banned from the steam discussion board on 17 may. And I do not find it normal, so I would like an explanation. As I'm banned I can not ask the moderator of project cars steam forum because I can't edit post.

I think I noticed that the AI has no speed restriction on the sand, is this normal?
It seems to me that the contacts races are banned, why artificial inteligence allows you to crush?
Collisions are sometimes unrealistic, there will be some patches for it? During few hours of play, I already made 360° with the car, and the car who fits into me pass quietly under me while I'm entraint literally fly.

thank to you for taking the time to answer me

Ian Bell
19-05-2015, 01:24
Thread closed for excessive whinging.