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TomekCB
22-05-2015, 04:46
Every day I drive in this game more and more problems I see. Admit the driving is fun if you on a good wheel and use JS FFB settings. But who decided to release this game in it's actual state? Why are there still bugs you can find in a year old prerelease build?
What were they doing all the years.
I would like to see your business model more transparent. For a game paid almost in front by the community and supported by a publisher there is no excuse for almost no licensed cars, no scanned tracks and the buggy launch specially on console. And you think we pay in front for pcars 2. You abused the wmd model. Words of a friend(former WMD member). We had a discussion last week and he is more disappointed than I'm. You only have to look on the last prerelease build and the so called final. All the bugs we got now, you can find them there too. As if they wait till community fix the game by themself. It's clear a early access build you sell full price. That that's not how you will last as company.

I love the game when it works and think the physics feel really good. On console the best SIM you can buy but it's not finished and I doubt it will be. You could not fix it the last year's.How do you want to do this now?

Umer Ahmad
22-05-2015, 04:50
What do you want? Refund?

The "business model" was fully "transparent" if you were a member of WMD portal since 2011 (build 079)

Yes there are problems and they will be fixed as well as new content added (cars/tracks).

apexatspeed
22-05-2015, 05:30
I honestly am interested in what glitches they have solved problems for and which ones do they just not care about. I also would like to pick the brain of the team who designed the UI and the menus. Everything is just unrefined.

apexatspeed
22-05-2015, 05:31
What do you want? Refund?

The "business model" was fully "transparent" if you were a member of WMD portal since 2011 (build 079)

Yes there are problems and they will be fixed as well as new content added (cars/tracks).

Are they going to fix the reset bug that resets your tires from hard hits?

Umer Ahmad
22-05-2015, 05:39
I reported it to the WMD developer area just a little while ago. It will get the appropriate attention.

Yes. Guys do you all understand that these things MUST be fixed by SMS. Really they have no choice. If pCARS 1.0 (this game) is NOT successful there will likely be no pCARS 2.0

This is SMS' "baby" and they are on the record saying this is NOT a "ship and forget" game. There will be a lot of support this year and beyond. More than T10 and Kaz have done for their games.

Do you see the level of engagement here? How many times do you get to talk to the head of a gaming studio like this? Or his top physics guys etc.?

This WILL all be fixed to their best efforts possible. They need to start their "brand" correctly, new companies do not have the option to be lax in responding to their early clients. If you like racing games like this, then you are in the right place and working with the right guys.

MakoShark222
22-05-2015, 05:51
Every day I drive in this game more and more problems I see. Admit the driving is fun if you on a good wheel and use JS FFB settings. But who decided to release this game in it's actual state? Why are there still bugs you can find in a year old prerelease build?
What were they doing all the years.
I would like to see your business model more transparent. For a game paid almost in front by the community and supported by a publisher there is no excuse for almost no licensed cars, no scanned tracks and the buggy launch specially on console. And you think we pay in front for pcars 2. You abused the wmd model. Words of a friend(former WMD member). We had a discussion last week and he is more disappointed than I'm. You only have to look on the last prerelease build and the so called final. All the bugs we got now, you can find them there too. As if they wait till community fix the game by themself. It's clear a early access build you sell full price. That that's not how you will last as company.

I love the game when it works and think the physics feel really good. On console the best SIM you can buy but it's not finished and I doubt it will be. You could not fix it the last year's.How do you want to do this now?

I got a feeling you're trolling the wrong place guy!:highly_amused: 12? 15? How old are you? I just got the game and a new cheap-o wheel yesterday and have played hours on end and haven't seen much of anything buggy about the game but I'm sure one will pop up. It happens to every game!

If you're not satisfied TAKE IT BACK and move along.:onthego: I'd suspect by the tone of your post you're finished here. CYA:cool:

apexatspeed
22-05-2015, 06:10
I reported it to the WMD developer area just a little while ago. It will get the appropriate attention.

Yes. Guys do you all understand that these things MUST be fixed by SMS. Really they have no choice. If pCARS 1.0 (this game) is NOT successful there will likely be no pCARS 2.0

This is SMS' "baby" and they are on the record saying this is NOT a "ship and forget" game. There will be a lot of support this year and beyond. More than T10 and Kaz have done for their games.

Do you see the level of engagement here? How many times do you get to talk to the head of a gaming studio like this? Or his top physics guys etc.?

This WILL all be fixed to their best efforts possible. They need to start their "brand" correctly, new companies do not have the option to be lax in responding to their early clients. If you like racing games like this, then you are in the right place and working with the right guys.

It is good to know that you let them know about it. Thank you.

TomekCB
22-05-2015, 06:16
I'm 34 and not trolling. Do you play on Xbox? It's a mess. Sorry but paying 70euros for a game to work on it is not what I saw in the trailer and commercials of the game. Stop defending a buggy launched game. Yeah it will be fixed if we lucky,but than you could buy it for less than the half price. And look how a.c. unity was fixed. It wasn't. You assume they will fix it because they say it or are you see them working. Looking on the fixes from the last few months before release it will take them more than a year and that's not what I paid for. You lie to me as a company when you tell me this is the final product and after you got money you tell me it's not finished but it will be someday. Why did you not tell us before you got the money it's a unfinished game?
Because you know nobody would buy this for 70 bucks right?

TheLethalDose
22-05-2015, 06:49
I got a feeling you're trolling the wrong place guy!:highly_amused: 12? 15? How old are you? I just got the game and a new cheap-o wheel yesterday and have played hours on end and haven't seen much of anything buggy about the game but I'm sure one will pop up. It happens to every game!

If you're not satisfied TAKE IT BACK and move along.:onthego: I'd suspect by the tone of your post you're finished here. CYA:cool:

You only just got the game and don't see any bugs... right.

I like the game even with the large amount of bugs present but it doesn't mean I should get rid of it now does it? It is on the developer to fix the issues, someone shouldn't have to get rid of the game because of things that should not have been present in a final polished game.

Calling someone 12 or 15 is really not needed, especially when your post came off as far less mature.

blacknred81
22-05-2015, 06:59
by a publisher there is no excuse for almost no licensed cars

Alpine A450
Ariel Atom 300 Supercharged
Ariel Atom 500 V8
Ariel Atom Mugen
Aston Martin Rapide S Hydrogen Hybrid
Aston Martin Vantage GT3
Aston Martin Vantage GT4
Audi R18 TDI LMP1
Audi R8 LMS Ultra
Audi R8 V10 Plus
BAC Mono
BMW 1 M Coupé (E82)
BMW 320 Turbo Gr.5 (E21)
BMW M1 Procar (E26/1)
BMW M3 Gr.A (E30)
BMW M3 GT (E92)
BMW M3 GT4 (E92)
BMW Z4 GT3
Caper Monterey Stockcar
Caterham Seven Classic
Caterham Superlight R500
Caterham SP/300R
Ford Capri Zakspeed Gr.5
Ford Escort RS1600
Ford Focus RS
Ford Mk. IV
Ford Mustang Boss 302R1
Ford Mustang Cobra SCCA TransAm
Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth Gr.A
Formula Gulf 1000
Ginetta G40 Junior
Ginetta G55 GT3
Ginetta G55 GT4
Gumpert Apollo S
Lotus 49 Cosworth
Lotus 72D Cosworth
Lotus 78 Cosworth
Lotus 98T Renault
Marek RP219D LMP2
Marek RP339h (PM 06a) LMP1
McLaren 12C
McLaren 12C GT3
McLaren F1
McLaren P1
Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evo2 DTM
Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.8 AMG
Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG
Mercedes-Benz C-Class Coupe DTM
Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X FQ400
Oreca 03 Nissan
Pagani Huayra
Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster
Pagani Zonda R
Palmer Jaguar JP-LM
Radical SR3 RS
Radical SR8 RX
Renault Clio Cup
Renault Mégane R.S. 265
Ruf CTR3
Ruf CTR3 SMS-R
Ruf RGT-8
Ruf RGT-8 GT3
RWD P20 LMP2
RWD P30 LMP1
Sauber C9 Mercedes
SMS Formula A
SMS Formula B
SMS Formula C
SMS Formula Rookie
SMS Kart 125cc (Kart01)
SMS Superkart 250cc (Kart02)
W Motors Lykan HyperSport

Red cars are the only fictional.....

Doesnt look like almost no licensed cars......

apexatspeed
22-05-2015, 07:16
I got a feeling you're trolling the wrong place guy!:highly_amused: 12? 15? How old are you? I just got the game and a new cheap-o wheel yesterday and have played hours on end and haven't seen much of anything buggy about the game but I'm sure one will pop up. It happens to every game!

If you're not satisfied TAKE IT BACK and move along.:onthego: I'd suspect by the tone of your post you're finished here. CYA:cool:
People like you are toxic to the development of the game. You can not sit there with a straight face and say you've played for hours and haven't seen anything buggy.

wraithsrike
22-05-2015, 07:25
I got a feeling you're trolling the wrong place guy!:highly_amused: 12? 15? How old are you? I just got the game and a new cheap-o wheel yesterday and have played hours on end and haven't seen much of anything buggy about the game but I'm sure one will pop up. It happens to every game!

If you're not satisfied TAKE IT BACK and move along.:onthego: I'd suspect by the tone of your post you're finished here. CYA:cool:

Really, calling a member out on there age tells the forum more about yours.

trade_fanatic
22-05-2015, 07:27
people, take a chill pill.. I've had tons of fun playing the game so far and I haven't even had it two weeks yet. I love racing simulators and Project Cars is the one for me.. sure the format for saving tunes has its quirks, and there's the licensing issues for particular cars/circuits, minor details (which are fixable) won't keep me from enjoying a sim racer that I hold right up there with the best of them.. Graphics 10/10 Physics 10/10 OverallGameplay 9.5/10 need I say more? yes, if you don't like the game so far here's a suggestion, try career mode IT WILL KNOCK YOUR SOCKS OFF!! and if that doesn't work, well then go and sit in your favorite chair and read a book.. mindful racing everyone -

Pablo2008jedi
22-05-2015, 07:30
people, take a chill pill.. I've had tons of fun playing the game so far and I haven't even had it two weeks yet. I love racing simulators and Project Cars is the one for me.. sure the format for saving tunes has its quirks, and there's the licensing issues for particular cars/circuits, minor details (which are fixable) won't keep me from enjoying a sim racer that I hold right up there with the best of them.. Graphics 10/10 Physics 10/10 OverallGameplay 9.5/10 need I say more? yes, if you don't like the game so far here's a suggestion, try career mode IT WILL KNOCK YOUR SOCKS OFF!! and if that doesn't work, well then go and sit in your favorite chair and read a book.. mindful racing everyone -

Yeah the game is fine, just go here and see http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22495-Known-Issues-Collective-Thread-(PS4)-Not-for-bug-reporting!-Updated-21-05

menaceuk
22-05-2015, 07:30
Just wondering, but the OP says no licensed cars, but these are in fact real life racers from real manufacturers. So, surely they had to license the vast majority of cars in the game, right?

As for tracks, I am pretty sure All, or at least most of the British tracks are laser scanned. I would assume laser scanning is a costly business though, Lots of travelling, lots of time, etc.

wraithsrike
22-05-2015, 07:37
OP, would you care to explain your comments relating to licensed cars and real life tracks as im sure I'm not the only one that doesn't understand it.

Blackvault
22-05-2015, 07:41
I'd also like to say that the following cars have actually been designed by the WMD community

Marek RP219D LMP2
Marek RP339h (PM 06a) LMP1
RWD P20 LMP2
RWD P30 LMP1

So they aren't actually unlicensed copies of real cars, they are designed based on current LMP1/LMP2 regulations from real life.

For that's a bloody awesome selling point! :)

Pete

menaceuk
22-05-2015, 08:09
I'd also like to say that the following cars have actually been designed by the WMD community

Marek RP219D LMP2
Marek RP339h (PM 06a) LMP1
RWD P20 LMP2
RWD P30 LMP1

So they aren't actually unlicensed copies of real cars, they are designed based on current LMP1/LMP2 regulations from real life.

For that's a bloody awesome selling point! :)

Pete

and I would like to say that the Marek LMP2 is awesome:D

Blackvault
22-05-2015, 08:12
and I would like to say that the Marek LMP2 is awesome:D

I prefer the P20 myself when racing in an LMP2, but either way, its great to see these realistic cars in the game.

Pete

Bealdor
22-05-2015, 08:20
I prefer the P20 myself when racing in an LMP2, but either way, its great to see these realistic cars in the game.

Pete

Personally I think those fictional LMP cars are one of the best achievements of the WMD community.

menaceuk
22-05-2015, 08:29
I prefer the P20 myself when racing in an LMP2, but either way, its great to see these realistic cars in the game.

Pete

Haven't tried any of the others yet. I have been too focused on GT/Touring stuff.

trade_fanatic
22-05-2015, 08:35
Yeah the game is fine, just go here and see http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22495-Known-Issues-Collective-Thread-(PS4)-Not-for-bug-reporting!-Updated-21-05


so I read how you posted that you want ai to have the same penalty as you in career mode when in the sand or grass, my reply to you is to stay on the track.. also turning the ai down will help you have fun, unless you are determined to race at 100% difficulty (insanely hard).. your posts resemble your avatar, negative.. so good luck, and maybe you won't buy games in the future on digital since you regret your purchase.. oh and don't overhype yourself by watching hours upon hours of footage of a game that is not near release.. great expectations my friend.. mindful racing everyone -

wraithsrike
22-05-2015, 10:40
so I read how you posted that you want ai to have the same penalty as you in career mode when in the sand or grass, my reply to you is to stay on the track.. also turning the ai down will help you have fun, unless you are determined to race at 100% difficulty (insanely hard).. your posts resemble your avatar, negative.. so good luck, and maybe you won't buy games in the future on digital since you regret your purchase.. oh and don't overhype yourself by watching hours upon hours of footage of a game that is not near release.. great expectations my friend.. mindful racing everyone -
The guy posted up a link to the known faults which you dismissed in your previous post and now you dis him again.

Are you on the forum to be helpful or simply just start arguments?

Pablo2008jedi
22-05-2015, 11:47
so I read how you posted that you want ai to have the same penalty as you in career mode when in the sand or grass, my reply to you is to stay on the track.. also turning the ai down will help you have fun, unless you are determined to race at 100% difficulty (insanely hard).. your posts resemble your avatar, negative.. so good luck, and maybe you won't buy games in the future on digital since you regret your purchase.. oh and don't overhype yourself by watching hours upon hours of footage of a game that is not near release.. great expectations my friend.. mindful racing everyone -

Ummm wat???? I think you are replying to another forum post I made. But in essence, YES the AI should be penalised the same as me. If you are on the limit of your skills you sometimes miss a braking point and go "off track" the AI even do this when battling each other...but they get no slow down.


The guy posted up a link to the known faults which you dismissed in your previous post and now you dis him again.

Are you on the forum to be helpful or simply just start arguments?

Thanks bud!

Niveous21
22-05-2015, 17:15
Personally I think those fictional LMP cars are one of the best achievements of the WMD community.

Methinks it's time I try these cars. I've mostly been driving the open wheelers, but I gave the R18 a spin last night and had a blast. Time to pound a few corners at La Sarthe...

nomen nescio
22-05-2015, 18:06
My post on gtplanet about pCars:


First impression? Well, I have no impression. I'm too overwelmed with utter joy. I like pCars that much.

Enough said. :DOnly thing, I didn't play againt the AI when I wrote that. Only the AI is what I'm not impressed about.


What if Kunos simulazioni and SMS should join force to create the ultimate full blown race sim? Could become the revelation of the century. :D

Slowsley
24-05-2015, 07:47
My post on gtplanet about pCars:

Only thing, I didn't play againt the AI when I wrote that. Only the AI is what I'm not impressed about.


What if Kunos simulazioni and SMS should join force to create the ultimate full blown race sim? Could become the revelation of the century. :D


I think AC and Kunos has the absolute worst AI ever conceived. Sometimes I feel like AC is trolling me with it. rF2 is the AI for developers to study IMO.

Dazzler46
24-05-2015, 13:50
I think people should be given a refund if you buy anything else that does not work as it should by law you are entitled to a refund.
So in answer to your question yes if people want a refund they should be given one.

wraithsrike
24-05-2015, 14:56
I think people should be given a refund if you buy anything else that does not work as it should by law you are entitled to a refund.
So in answer to your question yes if people want a refund they should be given one.
It's down to the supplier to give refunds not the developers, not that I feel one is warranted in the case of project car's, any manufacturer has the right to rectify any faults and SMS are certainly trying there best to do just that.

Helmethead1031
24-05-2015, 15:58
I get people are frustrated with bugs and the game didn't meet some people's expectations. But I can't understand anyone asking for a refund! Gaming, music, movies...it's all the same. You can't get your money back if you buy a movie that doesn't meet your expectations. You can't get your money back if a particular music album doesn't meet your expectations. So why would you think you can get your money back when it comes to a game? The game is not unplayable. There are many people playing in career mode and online at any given time. That seems playable to me.

spinkick
24-05-2015, 16:03
The game is a tremendous achievement, but yes there are some bugs that seem kind of embarrassing and obvious. But probably the publisher said SHIP IT and they are scrambling. You can tell, because guys were working on things to the very last moment.

Dazzler46
24-05-2015, 16:13
I get people are frustrated with bugs and the game didn't meet some people's expectations. But I can't understand anyone asking for a refund! Gaming, music, movies...it's all the same. You can't get your money back if you buy a movie that doesn't meet your expectations. You can't get your money back if a particular music album doesn't meet your expectations. So why would you think you can get your money back when it comes to a game? The game is not unplayable. There are many people playing in career mode and online at any given time. That seems playable to me.

A film or music you watch or buy is completely different they are a matter of opinion, this game is broken and has been released knowing this what should have happened is they should have told everyone how it is and it will recieve patches to rectify and bugs along the way.Then customers could decide for them selves wether to buy the game or wait for the fixes to be applied then no one could ask for a refund because they would know how the game stands from the off.

Spirit X
24-05-2015, 16:20
I love this game to death and there's no way I would consider getting rid of it but I have to say, sooner or later some laws need to be introduced to stop publishers releasing stuff that doesn't work. In the UK at least it is illegal to sell any product that isn't 'fit for purpose' but these laws don't yet seem to cover digital products.

Developing is HARD, no doubt. Never the less, it's only the gamers that have the power to keep the industry honest and we have to use that power. If it really bothers you, you have to make a commitment to yourself not to buy pCARS 2 no matter what. That's the only way to send the message.

For me, a lot will depend on what happens over the coming months.

MysterG
24-05-2015, 16:21
A film or music you watch or buy is completely different they are a matter of opinion, this game is broken and has been released knowing this what should have happened is they should have told everyone how it is and it will recieve patches to rectify and bugs along the way.Then customers could decide for them selves wether to buy the game or wait for the fixes to be applied then no one could ask for a refund because they would know how the game stands from the off.

To all:
Can we quit with the "this game is broken" hyperbole please.

Helmethead1031
24-05-2015, 16:24
A film or music you watch or buy is completely different they are a matter of opinion, this game is broken and has been released knowing this what should have happened is they should have told everyone how it is and it will recieve patches to rectify and bugs along the way.Then customers could decide for them selves wether to buy the game or wait for the fixes to be applied then no one could ask for a refund because they would know how the game stands from the off.

I respectfully disagree. The game is not broken. It IS playable. Some of the bugs are frustrating, but the game is playable. In today's gaming world where, buggie games are a fact of life. I truly believe some frustrations are caused by consumer expectations that are a little over the top. A lot of the bugs discovered are legitimate gripes, but I've also read some threads where the complaints are down right rediculous. Unfortunately, some are starting dismiss all complaints due to some of the complaints in the threads.

Spirit X
24-05-2015, 16:25
To all:
Can we quit with the "this game is broken" hyperbole please.

I hate arguing like this but I'm afraid I must say: Don't quit guys. The forums are here for us to communicate these things and while it's awesome that SMS are so communicative and open, we should still be respectfully kicking up a fuss about stuff that has shipped that isn't working.

Helmethead1031
24-05-2015, 16:28
I hate arguing like this but I'm afraid I must say: Don't quit guys. The forums are here for us to communicate these things and while it's awesome that SMS are so communicative and open, we should still be respectfully kicking up a fuss about stuff that has shipped that isn't working.
Not looking to argue, but I'm genuinely curious what isn't working that makes the game unplayable?

MysterG
24-05-2015, 16:36
I hate arguing like this but I'm afraid I must say: Don't quit guys. The forums are here for us to communicate these things and while it's awesome that SMS are so communicative and open, we should still be respectfully kicking up a fuss about stuff that has shipped that isn't working.

Respectfully is the word there.

"This game is broken" is not respectful or true.
You just have to look around you at all the people setting up multiplayer events etc.. they must be able to play ...

wraithsrike
24-05-2015, 16:37
I hate arguing like this but I'm afraid I must say: Don't quit guys. The forums are here for us to communicate these things and while it's awesome that SMS are so communicative and open, we should still be respectfully kicking up a fuss about stuff that has shipped that isn't working.

The "fuss" has been kicked up, so why go over and over and over the exact some issues?

The issues are/have been implemented a patch is forthcoming.

What more do you want SMS to do? They have listened they have / are working hard to do what has been and let's face it reported time and time again, yes if it's not a new issue it's well past time to quit.

Spirit X
24-05-2015, 16:37
Respectfully is the word there.

"This game is broken" is not respectful or true.
You just have to look around you at all the people setting up multiplayer events etc.. they must be able to play ...

To be fair we have no prescribed definition of 'broken' so some may say it is and some may say it isn't. Have you raced when it starts raining? Just sayin'.

awaite85
24-05-2015, 17:33
Game is barely 2 weeks old folks. Give it a chance.

FACT0RY PIL0T
24-05-2015, 17:47
I like how they closed the other thread on here "complaint to the watch dog".

Ok so we know it has it's issues but I have yet to see anywhere, what's the limit to how may patches are budgeted?

I wish devs these days would concentrate on

Does it drive right, all the time
Does the controller or wheel work all the time
Does the save work correctly
Does it load consistently from mode to mode

Then if all this works on all the platforms then they work on the making it look good, because if the base was right then what there would be no issues other than hey the crowd is missing in the last part of the stands, whoooooo cares first things first.

I consider it broken because

I go to freeplay and one minute I start out and my tires temps are 250 green first lap and its on ice until the 2nd lap, then I drive 20 laps pit make a few changes restart and now my wheel feels different and tire temps are 145 blue and its on ice until lap 6?


Theres no consistent load to it at all, one min I run 120:xxx at monza the next min it will only do 122:xxx without a setup change, and beleive me I've been testing it for the last 2 weeks trying to figure out a work around to at least get some sort of consistent game play.

Same track even in time trial on 2 diffrent days same setup one day im on for 119:xxx next day it will barely do 120:xxx, and the tires are diffrent temps each day.* Even restarting the game doesnt help make it the same. My wheel never feels the same from day to day mode to mode, and never had this back in 2012 with the beta?

Im not your average casual gamer, and consider myself in the top for speed I drive these things a lot, and pay close attention to everything, and how its working.* But to the devs well its broken in my op to where it isnt working, and I turn it off now only hoping for a patch, because its not even halfway consistent or working right.*

Yes everyone has there own definition of broken I understand this, and im not even going to attempt to race online until I know its consistent, as i just dont want to take the chance something didnt load right and I smash someone.

Ive said what I wanted to now, and I hope you dont get all hurt feelings, but just let me have my chance to vent a little, and know im really hoping the patch or patches fix somethings because im tired of arcade racers, and pulling for this title to come through in the end.

wraithsrike
24-05-2015, 17:51
I wish the mods would start locking down a few more threads personally.

The right to voice you opinion is one thing but to continuously bombard the forum with the same things over and over is wearing thin

DayGlow
24-05-2015, 17:56
I like how they closed the other thread on here "complaint to the watch dog".

Ok so we know it has it's issues but I have yet to see anywhere, what's the limit to how may patches are budgeted?

I wish devs these days would concentrate on

Does it drive right, all the time
Does the controller or wheel work all the time
Does the save work correctly
Does it load consistently from mode to mode

Then if all this works on all the platforms then they work on the making it look good, because if the base was right then what there would be no issues other than hey the crowd is missing in the last part of the stands, whoooooo cares first things first.

I consider it broken because

I go to freeplay and one minute I start out and my tires temps are 250 green first lap and its on ice until the 2nd lap, then I drive 20 laps pit make a few changes restart and now my wheel feels different and tire temps are 145 blue and its on ice until lap 6?


Theres no consistent load to it at all, one min I run 120:xxx at monza the next min it will only do 122:xxx without a setup change, and beleive me I've been testing it for the last 2 weeks trying to figure out a work around to at least get some sort of consistent game play.

Same track even in time trial on 2 diffrent days same setup one day im on for 119:xxx next day it will barely do 120:xxx, and the tires are diffrent temps each day.* Even restarting the game doesnt help make it the same. My wheel never feels the same from day to day mode to mode, and never had this back in 2012 with the beta?

Im not your average casual gamer, and consider myself in the top for speed I drive these things a lot, and pay close attention to everything, and how its working.* But to the devs well its broken in my op to where it isnt working, and I turn it off now only hoping for a patch, because its not even halfway consistent or working right.*

Yes everyone has there own definition of broken I understand this, and im not even going to attempt to race online until I know its consistent, as i just dont want to take the chance something didnt load right and I smash someone.

Ive said what I wanted to now, and I hope you dont get all hurt feelings, but just let me have my chance to vent a little, and know im really hoping the patch or patches fix somethings because im tired of arcade racers, and pulling for this title to come through in the end.

Is the ambient and track temperature changing? Especially on 2 different days means different temperatures, which effect your times.

John Hargreaves
24-05-2015, 18:06
Ok so we know it has it's issues but I have yet to see anywhere, what's the limit to how may patches are budgeted?

...pulling for this title to come through in the end.

The big difference between pCARS and most other games is the absence of a publisher telling SMS ‘ok we‘ve got their cash, don‘t waste any more time on patching the game, let‘s get the next one out and squeeze them for more dosh‘.

SMS are developing a totaly new IP here and it‘s very much in their interests for everyone to be satisfied with the game in the longer term. The fact that Ian Bell, the head of the company has been on these forums responding to posts personally proves that this is no ordinary game release, and don‘t forget that this team are pretty much a small indie team compared to the likes of the GT and FM developers. If we hang in there and join the journey of the game, things will be fixed, content will be added, players will be listened to and we‘ll all be better off with another major title to play.
You‘re absolutely right, there are flaws, probably more than some of us were expecting to be honest, but i think if we can be patient we‘ll be the ones to benefit in the long run with the game we all want pCARS to be.
Hang in there mate and keep posting the bug reports it‘ll be worth it :encouragement:

trade_fanatic
24-05-2015, 18:07
To be fair we have no prescribed definition of 'broken' so some may say it is and some may say it isn't. Have you raced when it starts raining? Just sayin'.


when it starts raining??? when it starts raining go easy on the rest of your current lap and pit in for the wet tires, that's what pit lane is for! or do you expect the devs to patch a "in lap tire change" so that your tires can be switched magically while not doing the switch yourself! racing a true simulator isn't about 1st place, it's about bringing the car home in one piece!!! hit a wall, your race is over is another example for you.

Ian Bell
24-05-2015, 18:12
I wish the mods would start locking down a few more threads personally.

The right to voice you opinion is one thing but to continuously bombard the forum with the same things over and over is wearing thin

Agreed. Constant repetition is approaching OCD levels. Stop the noise.