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ROTTEN
26-05-2015, 13:33
Just curious what % AI difficulty everyone is using?

I use 60 - 80% depending on the track and car used with a DS4 controller ---- all assists off except for the guiding line on unfamiliar tracks.

b_akerlite
26-05-2015, 13:41
I have it at 75 for now - i cant imagine being good enough for 100%....!

jgaganas
26-05-2015, 13:53
80 (+/- 20) with the wheel, 60 (+/- 20) with the gamepad. Need to constantly adjust for every track/car combo (for now).

For a rain-race against 86 lotus, i even go further down ;)

cptkermite
26-05-2015, 13:57
I started strait away on 100% and have been progressing. In the beginning I really struggled to keep in the top 10th. But now after some weeks I'm holding the first place pretty good , except when it rains... :p

trapgat
26-05-2015, 13:59
I use 100%. I usually end up within position 5-8 on qualifying and finish 3-10.
I find it really fun, it's challenging and feels realistic.
Using a t500rs with a playseat evolution, all assists/ guide lines etc. off except for ABS.
I have 0 sim/ racing experience.

wraithsrike
26-05-2015, 14:00
50/80 depending on track and car, in Gt's 5-3 I run at 80 as do I with the tourers but open wheelers I struggle with and have dropped to 50 on occasions and can still struggle to make the top 3.

100 is out of my league.

gbm
26-05-2015, 14:05
10% :rolleyes:

mkstatto
26-05-2015, 14:18
70-80% depnding on class, open wheeler tends to be 80% anything slow and heavy 70%. Would like an option on the XBOX to do it in 1 degree increments like the PC users apparently have.

Laurens Van Rossem
26-05-2015, 14:20
Not trying to sound L331 here, but 100% all assists off and I still find it a bit easy, Wish there was a higher setting tbh...

NemethR
26-05-2015, 14:24
100% but on some tracks either I am too slow, or the AI is just way too fast (compared to other tracks).

For Example:
Silverstone I can barely win in a 20 lap race, yet at Donington I win with 30+ seconds.

Srt8 300c
26-05-2015, 14:24
70%

townnet
26-05-2015, 14:27
Not trying to sound L331 here, but 100% all assists off and I still find it a bit easy, Wish there was a higher setting tbh...

Then you can go for real racing.

FA RACING 01
26-05-2015, 14:28
Use 80% with all races. [Except when I know it's gonna rain - then 0%]

FA RACING 01
26-05-2015, 14:33
Not trying to sound L331 here, but 100% all assists off and I still find it a bit easy, Wish there was a higher setting tbh...

You're an alien [LOL]

rolandk10
26-05-2015, 14:40
60-80 Depending.

I've noticed they seem to get faster towards the end of a race. I was doing 42 laps on 80% at Laguna and after the first 10, I was 10 seconds ahead. Messed up once around lap 28 and ended up in 7th. In those final 14 laps, I didn't gain 1 second on them.

Awong124
26-05-2015, 15:07
100% real assists with a wheel and I find the pace to be reasonable. I usually qualify on pole and have little trouble winning if I don't make any major mistakes. I'm generally faster than the AI, but the 100% pace is reasonable in a race so that I don't have to push flat out all the time, which would probably lead to mistakes. Though I'll be honest, if I make a major mistake I'll usually restart (which is common at Glencairn). There has only been one race I've entered in career where I wasn't able to keep up, and that was the Focus RS invitational at Sonoma Short. I don't know why, but I was something like 2 seconds a lap off the pace.

Andjem
26-05-2015, 15:12
90% across the board

caslad81
26-05-2015, 15:20
Not trying to sound L331 here, but 100% all assists off and I still find it a bit easy, Wish there was a higher setting tbh...

Ditto, especially with he formula cars.

Niveous21
26-05-2015, 15:21
I do 80% typically, but if my qualifying time is more than a second faster than the AI I bump it up to 90. Haven't tried 100 yet.

Kitt
26-05-2015, 15:33
Stuck it on 100% when I first started playing,cause I allways thought I was shit hot when it came to driving games,then very quickly realised I'm not that good.So now I keep it around 75,assists on real with xbox 360 controller.

Moo64
26-05-2015, 15:37
between 70 and 90% depends on the amount of beer :very_drunk:

Sonny Crockett
26-05-2015, 15:42
70-80%

MisterO
26-05-2015, 16:21
Somewhere between 80% and 95%, depending (like others here) on what track and car I'm in. And what mood - sometimes I do want to progress in my career, but don't realy feel like doing it the hard way (wish that'd work in real life :cool: )

qwbufp
26-05-2015, 16:34
70-75% with a G27 and no assists. I always prefer to dumb down the AI until I get used to the driving model but I must say I don't get why I can qualify 1st only 2 tenths up but I lead by 3 seconds after a lap...

flymar
26-05-2015, 16:49
71%
A method
Start the career with level that seems OK for you.
After every race (not quali) change the AI level
Last place - minus 2
Second half - minus 1
First half - leave it
First - plus 1
First over 5 seconds to 2nd place - +2 for 5 sec gap, +3 for 6 sec gap and so on...
This is my autotune, this is my rubberbanding:)

KK78
26-05-2015, 16:50
70-80%

maystorm
26-05-2015, 16:54
60-70%, driving with a pad and all assists on. I like to start from the last position and work myself thru the field of 50+ opponents. ;) If I go higher in AI % I wouldn't manage to become P1 within 15 rounds.

Martakus
26-05-2015, 16:56
First over 5 seconds to 2nd place - +2 for 5 sec gap, +3 for 6 sec gap and so on...


Oh, but what do I do in an Endurance Race where the second place did an extra pit stop? Just finished a 1h race and had a 50s gap to second - but he still got a few tenths closer to me every lap... So nope, Im leaving those 67% xD

Jezza819
26-05-2015, 17:04
I haven't moved it off the the standard 50%. But I haven't started a career yet because I'm still experimenting with different cars and trying to find the FFB sweet spot.

milliotseb
26-05-2015, 17:32
My basis is 40% (using Xbox 1 gamepad). Only TCS assist
I set it to 30% when I did not qualif 1st.

My next season: I will set 50% for invitationals next season. Main races will stay to 40%

HarryHoodlum
26-05-2015, 17:32
Wish there was a higher setting tbh...

Go online, qualify in the top 5 and see if you can finish without getting intentionally rammed into a corner on the first lap. That's the next difficulty setting.

BMASTER
26-05-2015, 17:55
I started my career with carts at 75%. Now I'm at 95% for every invitationals (probably going to 100%) and with the carts around 85-90%.

TrevorAustin
26-05-2015, 18:09
I use 80% but always start at the back and only just started winning.

Megaessin
26-05-2015, 18:26
I use 80% in career, and on quick race i bump it up to 100%, cant quite keep up on 100% but i'm losing a lot of time because of the twitchy steering. It's going to be interesting to see how much my times improve when the new patch is released.
(On the 29th apparently XB1)

Benja190782
26-05-2015, 18:44
100% now! My first two days was at 80 but 100 is just so much more fun and realistic to me...

Pervasive
26-05-2015, 18:52
I'm at 70% giving me room for twitchy controller issues. I lapped the P2 car on 28 lap race though - as I get a better feel for controller set up this will increase. Spending a bunch of time learning tuning - fuel consumption, the controller input, etc. Once that stuff is down and I have progressed a bit I imagine 100% will be where I am winning or not for the realism. But so far its been a lot of "work" and the last thing I needed was more pressure on myself.

nomen nescio
26-05-2015, 18:59
50% (Clio Cup career thing)

mister dog
26-05-2015, 19:00
85% stage fright to put it any higher at the moment, but i'm able to win the occasional race :)

Gloomy
26-05-2015, 19:42
I've been on 60 with a controller for now until my fanatec gt3 works properly with the ps4 version.
I'll bump it up to 70 today since I've been winning every race by a large margin. I finished 20 seconds ahead of a 4 lap race with the super karts, I've been having to much fun with them! But a little more competition will be better.

k.merse
26-05-2015, 19:44
85 or sometimes more, regardless the track or car. The problem is that because AI is not affected by anything., I'm stometimes struggling with tire wear or especially in rain. In short: On wet I'm hopeless.

Brian Coombes
26-05-2015, 20:23
Started at 80 but now have bumped it up to 90, I just wish we could use single numbers instead of using 10s all the time on the PS4.

Bealdor
26-05-2015, 20:28
Started at 80 but now have bumped it up to 90, I just wish we could use single numbers instead of using 10s all the time on the PS4.

That will be coming in a patch. :)

SpeedLimitUnknown
26-05-2015, 20:34
Wow it only moves by increments of 10 on the console? I couldn't imagine dealing with that on the PC as there is a slight difference even by 1 or 2 points! Glad to see that's getting patched for console game!

xeek
26-05-2015, 20:39
I use 80 in Career Mode but I need to bump it up now because the AI seems weak in GT endurance and gets stuck in traffic or lets say they aren't as aggressive as I am, I finish 1 minute earlier than 2nd in an 1 hr race.

SpeedLimitUnknown
26-05-2015, 20:48
I've been racing at 80 to 85 using soft tires on a dry track with more fuel than I really need. If I spend time tweaking a setup I'll run at 90 but it really depends on the track as their speed doesn't seem to be consistent across all tracks. I'm hoping that's just me needing to do more setup work and that I won't have to keep readjusting AI levels from track to track.

On the topic of AI, I would love it if SMS were able to expose basic AI variables for each track via an ini or text file. Similar to what papyrus did in with Indycar, Nascar, GPL etc. Basic parameters like skill level, aggression, grip in wet and dry, tire wear percentage on a per track basis would be awesome!

Doug914
26-05-2015, 22:45
85% :)

fli096
26-05-2015, 22:58
Not trying to sound L331 here, but 100% all assists off and I still find it a bit easy, Wish there was a higher setting tbh...

I lapped the AI @ 100% at Oschersleben the other day. GT3 is no challenge at all and even in lmp3 i can keep up with my sp 300r against the much faster sr8. I kinda hoped it would be harder after I declassed the AI in the formula rookie series but I still manage to be consistently faster.

MiZtErNiCe
27-05-2015, 00:35
100% im all about formula a and the nordschleife, to be honest i expected them to be much faster, im doing 5mins 20/30 secs they are doing 6mins 5/15 secs. not tried Ai on any other track but will soon when i get over this nordschleife addiction :cool:

CustomInternals
27-05-2015, 01:33
DFGT (for now). Started off on 70 then bumped it up to 80 for a bit. I now do races on 100 if I know the car and track. If I don't know the car and/or track I usually bump it down to 80. If I'm streaming or recording I usually throw it on 70-80 just because when I try to talk, I am less focused on racing and tend to lose the optimal braking points and just overall awareness. AI on 100 is difficult but I find it a good challenge that can definitely be played on and won if the track and car is familiar. At least for me.

cerbrus2
27-05-2015, 01:43
I started on 70, but quickly got bored so went to 100. its a racing sim after all and if your not fighting for places. then you are basically just doing hot laps round a circuit with a few cars following behind.

MULTIVITZ
27-05-2015, 02:14
To be honest I play it on 0! After I've tuned a car I'll go into race weekend and put it on 100 and piss past em all if they don't keep driving like tossers, I'm usually in first fairly early, then do a lap or two and quit. I don't like to drive a car that I don't like driving! Its not like OCD or anything. I have a choice, drive a car thats got lots of handling flaws, or drive a predictable one I've tuned myself.
I'm concentrating on tuning my garage first, the community needs tunes to play with, people dont share their's because they're selfish or ashamed of their setup. There's hardly any tunes I've noticed. When bored I'll do a career on a higher difficulty with the cars, and tune them more for each track and rain. I'm not a fast player, but I can only enjoy racing others if my car's working and others around me can drive! That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!

TMoney
27-05-2015, 03:00
To be honest I play it on 0! After I've tuned a car I'll go into race weekend and put it on 100 and piss past em all if they don't keep driving like tossers, I'm usually in first fairly early, then do a lap or two and quit. I don't like to drive a car that I don't like driving! Its not like OCD or anything. I have a choice, drive a car thats got lots of handling flaws, or drive a predictable one I've tuned myself.
I'm concentrating on tuning my garage first, the community needs tunes to play with, people dont share their's because they're selfish or ashamed of their setup. There hardly any tunes I've noticed. When bored I'll do a career on a higher difficulty with the cars, and tune them more for each track and rain. I'm not a fast player, but I can only enjoy racing others if my car's working and others around me can drive! That my excuse and I'm sticking to it!

Or you can just tune them all. To me it's all part of the fun. Each one has their sweet spot, you just have to find it. I love going into a pactice session and turning a few laps, analyzing what the car is doing and making adjustments accordingly. Then moving on to qualifying when I feel I got things pretty dialed. Then it rains....;)

crowhop
27-05-2015, 03:43
100% AI, No aids, Pro settings, etc.

NOT an alien.

I am far too dominant in the Ginetta G40 Series. After winning the Clio Cup with only two wins and struggling for podiums, I expected a stronger challenge in the next class up. I qualify 2 or 3 seconds ahead at every track. It is fun winning, but being this far ahead and being able to dink around with a big lead is not what I had hoped.

RedDave84
27-05-2015, 06:57
80%. 70 when I've had enough.

I really wish on the PS4 we had 75 85 and 95 though. It goes up in 10's and 70-80 is too much of a gap, 70% is easy and 80% hard.

AB_Attack
27-05-2015, 08:27
Started testing 80%. Then down to 70%. Then 100%. Then 90%. Then "ok, it seems to vary alot, but enough now, I'll run at 85% regardless". So I run GT3 career at 85 now. It was smooth sailing at Oschersleben but I wouldn't be surprised if I run into total struggle on some tracks.


10% :rolleyes:

Lol! Hey, I'm actually gonna try that!

MenocidiX
27-05-2015, 17:28
I'm using 100% for online AIs (career varies), depends on the car but generally they're still beatable very easy. No matter which difficulty, the AI is fast on straights but keeps braking way too early so you can get them at any turn.

LextersQuest
27-05-2015, 17:39
Started game on 70%. Changed it to 80% now. Drive with no assists full damage in cockpitview.
To bad on xbox it changes with 10 at once.

Nivracer
27-05-2015, 17:53
50% or 60% depending on the track.

Andy Rink
27-05-2015, 18:29
I'm still getting my ass kicked on the track I've raced the most at 50%. Donington National. I might need to request a lead-paint eating AI to have any success. I have a G27, so it's not my gear. I just kinda suck. :) I enjoy myself though!

Ok, not entirely true, I've managed 2nd a few times.

mo_stache
27-05-2015, 18:49
80% for now in career, 100% in single race weekends.

danpinho
27-05-2015, 20:01
My first GT3 season I'm playing at 80%. Quite easy so far but IMO it seems that 80% is harder on single races.

Goggles Paisano
27-05-2015, 20:14
95% in career. I find the AI strength greatly varies according to track, but in general they are quite weak. I heard somewhere that the AI are intentionally weaker in the first career season, and that they get stronger after that. Does anyone know if that's true?

brasstacks
27-05-2015, 21:09
real assists. any where from 80% - 95% depending on track. However i restart very often. takes me a few hours to finish a simple 5 lap race. I race until im in the top 5

lordymatsuo
27-05-2015, 21:27
Started at 50 and quicly progressed up to 70/80

TMoney
27-05-2015, 23:42
I'm still getting my ass kicked on the track I've raced the most at 50%. Donington National. I might need to request a lead-paint eating AI to have any success. I have a G27, so it's not my gear. I just kinda suck. :) I enjoy myself though!

Ok, not entirely true, I've managed 2nd a few times.

Andy why in your avatar are you only a Kart Driver? I know I've seen that mug of yours at WMD!

gpk99
28-05-2015, 02:30
65-75....depending on how young i feel...I'm 59 and I tell ya it's tough on the concentration level after 20 laps....I'm in career mode and Formula C and really enjoying this. Haven't had many crackups yet but patience is the key against this AI. Last 5 laps of a 25 lapper at Zolder in a raging thunderstorm.....eeeeks....lol

jason
28-05-2015, 02:50
80 %

T0MMY
28-05-2015, 02:52
Racing at around 65-70%, the AI is just fast enough for me to have some battle but they are but too slow in qualifying.

Flihp
28-05-2015, 04:19
65% at moment.

John Hargreaves
28-05-2015, 07:47
95% in career. I find the AI strength greatly varies according to track, but in general they are quite weak. I heard somewhere that the AI are intentionally weaker in the first career season, and that they get stronger after that. Does anyone know if that's true?

From what I remember it goes something like that, designed in such a way as the difficulty increases steadily as you progress.

Invincible
28-05-2015, 07:56
I am at 85% atm (single race) but I think I need to go a tad higher... +14 second gap to 2nd place each lap on the Nordschleife is a bit much, isn't it?

baronesbc
28-05-2015, 08:35
100% and it is too slow, expecially with some car/track combos


Go online, qualify in the top 5 and see if you can finish without getting intentionally rammed into a corner on the first lap. That's the next difficulty setting.
or maybe the developers can do an ai more competitive and make happy everyone. as in many other simulators

dbr93
28-05-2015, 08:57
95-100..depends..
In some circuit and category with 95% is difficult to Win...
In others with 100% is easy :)

MULTIVITZ
28-05-2015, 09:09
Some will be stuck on there limit no matter how hard they try. Re: tuning grind thread.

ROTTEN
07-06-2015, 13:10
80% seems to be the sweet spot for me in formula racing.

LADY GEMMA JANE
07-06-2015, 13:12
I'm still having fun at 70%

Lars Rosenquist
07-06-2015, 13:28
65-70% for me, average Joe here. :)

Thomas Sikora
07-06-2015, 13:29
Not trying to sound L331 here, but 100% all assists off and I still find it a bit easy, Wish there was a higher setting tbh...

yeh yeh Laurens....

a proposal for you...try to drive mirror-inverted :p

Roger Prynne
07-06-2015, 13:36
Between 80 and 100 depending on car/track combo.

Bkim
07-06-2015, 13:48
Depending on track. Most tracks i race @ 91%. The AI is fast and i cant get pole but always somewhere in the top ten. I only race with the RUF GT3 heel toe with same class settings and all assists are off. At Oulton Park i can follow the top ten but overtaking is difficult.

Ixoye56
07-06-2015, 13:51
I use 70% with the controller, but expect to increase about 10-15% when I get my WheelStand Pro delivired to my newly bought TX wheel

Bouyo
07-06-2015, 15:08
100%. This seems to vary from 'way too easy' to 'really challenging' depending on the cars/track, however most of the time it's way too easy. This is with assists off.

Roger Prynne
07-06-2015, 15:11
100%. This seems to vary from 'way too easy' to 'really challenging' depending on the cars/track, however most of the time it's way too easy. This is with assists off.

In career mode maybe.

bhilkey
07-06-2015, 15:13
I just bumped up to 65% in Tier 3 Career. Finally a setting where I am not just qualifying first and running hot laps. Mistakes are magnified at 65%... So I end up with some top fives. I have really enjoyed increasing the difficulty bit by bit to make things more challenging as I become better at the craft!

Psychomatrix
07-06-2015, 15:25
80% with all assists complete off. I use a controller . At the races I'm most competitive to fight for podium and wins. But not in all cases. But I doesn't matter because nearly every race is fun. And even a 10th place give me smile when I gave my best. Today I must make a Pitstop because I lose my front wing on a crash. Then I drove from 23rd to 10th. Some cars are not easy to drive without ads so it's much more thrilling to finish a race without mistakes than take the win. It's boring to win every race. So at some point I will try 90%

Bouyo
07-06-2015, 16:16
In career mode maybe.

I haven't used career yet. I only do Solo events. Is there a difference?

My default would be AI 100, same class, 8 cars and starting in 5th on the grid. Sometimes it's tough, but most of the time it's too easy.

Roger Prynne
07-06-2015, 16:19
Yeah the AI in career mode are really easy to beat according to most... can't say myself as I have never used it as it does not interest me.

Blvd69
07-06-2015, 16:35
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PJ Dunham
07-06-2015, 16:59
in Career mode 100%
in most invitational events 65% - 75% as AI level seems way different in those races

Lawndarts
07-06-2015, 17:13
I would love an explanation on how those %'s translate into the game play. Does it effects traction? Engine power? Aggression (and in what way)? Mistakes? Track racing lines? Etc. and what's effected at what %. For instance, if it's a sliding scale, what's the difference in 80 vs 81? Or is it really only registered at 5-10% increments.

And is any of it dynamic based on player driving? At 80% I can get a great exit speed but they can still pull away from me on a straight...

Blvd69
07-06-2015, 17:32
A.I is important...but i just am looking currently for a new Computer...so When I get one...i will answer your question ok.
Take care and hope you get the help you need.

milliotseb
08-06-2015, 12:18
Before in this thread, I said I use 40% as a baseline (controler with some assists). Yesterday, I used 60% for one formula rookie race. What a difference between 50% and 60%. I had a nice battle for the podium anyway.
The thing is the IA ratio would have to evolve a lot depending of track/car.

ROTTEN
11-06-2015, 14:30
Had to scale it down to 70% today (formula). First time I've had to do that since starting Project Cars.

Sonic6L
11-06-2015, 14:36
60% for everything. I play with a controller with all assists off apart from ABS and sometimes with Racing Line on.

Paulo Ribeiro
11-06-2015, 14:55
Always 100%.

Cuba
11-06-2015, 15:01
Now I feel bad using 70%; time to bump it up to 100 to see how aggressive the AI get. I noticed the AI got nasty (dive bomb moves and side bumping on turns) when I went from 50% to 70%, can't wait to see how that act at 100%

Roger Prynne
11-06-2015, 15:03
120% :smug:

TrevorAustin
11-06-2015, 15:06
I'm currently on 276% but hoping patch 1.6 means I can increase it and get a bit more of a challenge, still a bit easy.

Paulo Ribeiro
11-06-2015, 15:55
I'm currently on 276% but hoping patch 1.6 means I can increase it and get a bit more of a challenge, still a bit easy.

Last time I tried 276%, I've got something like this with the AI:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aja1pCUZPso

LADY GEMMA JANE
11-06-2015, 16:07
I'm still at 70% , 80% is a bit hard for little me

Roger Prynne
11-06-2015, 16:09
I'm still at 70% , 80% is a bit hard for little me

Awwww

RichS77
11-06-2015, 19:57
At 80% with all assists off and manual gears it was getting a bit easy once I'd learned the tracks, so I've turned it up to 90%.

xautos
11-06-2015, 20:32
started at 60% half aids, no steering, or braking assistance, full abs, stab and tc. was doing 8 seconds a lap faster every lap.
100% same aids, 2.5 second faster a lap.
100% no aids, too easy. at least if the weather holds up, after that loosing races because ai isnt affected. typically quarter of a second to half a second faster depending how quickly i pick the tracks up and if they suit my racing style.

m355y
11-06-2015, 20:57
80 on some tracks, 90 on tracks I know well. Ain't turning a bit of TC off quite yet though.

CHEN255
11-06-2015, 22:18
70% on real with a DS4. I'm finding it a real challenge too!

Zmul21
12-06-2015, 03:13
In my first season with regular karts I started at 80 and slowly moved up as I got used to the game. In season 2 with the SuperKarts I've ran with 100% from the get go. I've been doing 100% lengths too and using the entire practice and qualifying times. In doing this I've started with the pole in both my races and finished well ahead of the AI in each first race and then I push it and wreck in race 2. Karts are either easy or I just was meant to be a Project CARS kart racer because whenever I get into a car at 100%, I haven't faired well so far. I haven't even attempted an invitational in season 2 because of how badly my season 1 invitational went at just 80% haha.

NicoHulkenberg27
14-07-2015, 12:18
70 with real assists now!
LMP2 now!

Mowzer
14-07-2015, 12:27
60 to 80 depending on class ;).

fa-racing
14-07-2015, 12:38
100% as the ai is still too easy though.

Mr Akina
14-07-2015, 12:42
90-100. Can't wait to be able to select something in between on the Xbox.

RAVEracer
14-07-2015, 12:43
80 - 90 with real assists :)

SchnauzahPowah
14-07-2015, 13:10
Most of the time in career, roughly 60. I'm using a game pad though, once I've got a decent wheel that bad boy's getting cranked all the way up. Oooo I'm baaaad!

giulianbu
14-07-2015, 13:21
Io uso 80, a 76 su xbox non si pu,tra 70 e 80 c' troppa differenza, e questo un difetto

AngelBrow
14-07-2015, 15:23
I would like to use 85%, but im between 80-90%.
Real assists.

Fanapryde
14-07-2015, 15:49
Between 80 and 90, even tried 100 a few times, but that is too hard for me now - no assists.
I also would see smaller increments, especially when finding out that AI is a lot faster in some types of car.
E.g.: I won Classic races (with the Sauber Mercedes and using clutch & H- shifter) at Brno and Spa fairly (too) easy with AI at 80%. Tried them at 90% at Le Mans and they (the fastest ones) turned out to be 3" a lap faster than I was.

justonce68
14-07-2015, 15:52
90-100 for solo race weekends, I was using 80 on career, but have not played career in ages as everything felt inconsistent with AI and tyres, so until I get the patch I have been avoiding it.

Im Sorry
14-07-2015, 15:58
70% at all times.Weird because depending on the car im either to fast for the AI or not quite quick enough :confused:

Bloodwave
14-07-2015, 17:43
70% most of the time, even if from one championship to another, AI increases or decreases its skills. Sometime I put one or two percents more/less. I must admit that on some races (Focus trackday at Sonoma for instance, or races with the undrivable GT40), I put the cursor much lower.

Racing with ABS and trackline, with my old-good-fellow MS Sidewinder Force Feedback Wheel :)

Flaw3dGenius
14-07-2015, 18:05
Depends on the car...70-100%...mostly 80%

Flaw3dGenius
14-07-2015, 18:47
Depends on the car...70-100%...mostly 80%

wraithsrike
14-07-2015, 18:48
I've learnt that because of AI skill inconsistents I can't set my difficulty and leave it, even in the GT3 UK championship the AI's skill levels are all over the place from one track to another

On brandshatch set at 80 I was having some real close racing yet at Bruno at the same difficultly I was beating them by over 6 seconds a lap,

Ch1ps N Queso
14-07-2015, 18:50
100%/No Assists.

Hoping for 110% in an upcoming patch.

FS7
14-07-2015, 19:51
70-80% AI difficulty, DS4 controller, realistic aids, cockpit view, full damage.
I spend most of my time doing custom races in solo mode, sometimes I qualify, sometimes I do race only and place myself around 5th-10th on the grid (total number of car varies between 30-45).

HD_DriftZz
14-07-2015, 20:08
80%

Nats
14-07-2015, 20:16
Lol I must be really really bad then because at the moment I have the AI set on 25% and stability on! But I do like to race through the pack and catch them up if I spin off (which is often) and this setting allows me to do that. I also use a joystick not a wheel so its a bit more awkward to steer. I enjoy racing but I dont liek a huge challenge. I will probably raise it up as a get better.

kostek
14-07-2015, 21:16
Till today i used 87%. Advanced to gt3, had to bump it to 88%. Difference in qual wa 0,2 till 8th place on first race us gt3. Started 6th, advenced to 3rd, 100% lenght race. Was a lot of fun. I'm on PC, dfgt, no assists, helmet cam.

Kobus Maree
15-07-2015, 01:49
Mostly at 80-85

Yuyuko
15-07-2015, 01:56
90%, since the devs have said much of the increase in difficulty above that is just extra aggression and a little extra pace.

Angst1974
15-07-2015, 12:48
I have mine set at 40% for this career , It almost seems that I dominate most tracks. I was running Spa last night and I was having trouble keeping up . Next career I will up it to 50-60 .

Racer Pro
15-07-2015, 12:51
me 40% no assist.

Nats
16-07-2015, 12:27
Ive pushed it up to 35-40 now with only analogue joystick control and no stability - I feel that is comfortable for me especially with the less control around corners that a joystick gives you over a wheel. With that setting I can stay with the GT cars around Oulton and catch them on corners. I will have to try to get my straight line speed up to get faster I think.

I dont like going too high in the AI difficulty settings though (I still have traction control and antilock brakes on). I've known games in the past where I have pushed it up too high and ended up not really enjoying the racing because I was never able to actually overtake, and if I spun off I spent the rest of the race on my own. That's not fun. I am after the nose to nose racing experience and overtaking generally I am not bothered if I am not able to compete in real life racing! And I dont tend to play online so low settings are not really an issue for me.

You play what is comfortable. I would love to find out what a wheel is like though I bet control at turn in, around corners and overtaking is far better. I could actually see myself buying a wheel for this game.

Fanapryde
16-07-2015, 12:46
I feel I could actually see myself buying a wheel for this game.
You will not regret it :o

GoTaLL
17-07-2015, 10:36
100% - I almost only race GT3. Other "unfamiliar" categories I race with 90%

racing with wheel and all assists off. with gamepad i would probably dial down to 50% hehe

I find it hard to win but the ones that I do I am happy and also find the challenge interesting. for me there is no point to set AI difficulty in a way that you manage to win more than 60/70% of your races [the same applies for a higher AI setting that you are almost always in the last positions :)]

CopperySinger5
17-07-2015, 16:18
Not trying to sound L331 here, but 100% all assists off and I still find it a bit easy, Wish there was a higher setting tbh...


Try racing in cockpit, in the RAIN, fg100, maximum AI count, last position, penalties on, damage on, mechanical failures on, tire and gas wear on max, and ds4 controller. Also post that video when you're done I'll grab popcorn and enjoy watching.

Note: these settings is how I normally race, but AI difficulty at 40% with all driving assists off. I can beat the AI at 100% with all the above conditions turned off but it takes the fun out of the game. The AI seems to ignore most of these settings when turned on in the current state of the game.

I think some people race at 100% with all the conditions turned off. This does not create an impossible challenge for elite racers. Turn them on and see if it's still too easy. I think the game would be more enjoyable and challenging regardless of what skilled driver you choose if game fixers made AI respond more to the penalties,wear, performance impacting damages, and mechanical failures.

Falango
18-07-2015, 00:05
Been using 100% from the start, no aids, G27. The kart races for the most part weren't that difficult in season 1. The Caterham series I was invited to was quite easy. I had my first practice session in the Lotus 98T at Donington, and I'm a long ways off. About .7 away from getting out of last place. Need practice with that one.

flyoffacliff
18-07-2015, 00:15
around 50-60%

Poulka
18-07-2015, 04:51
I run a range of 40-60 it depends on track and car. Example lotus I run mainly a 50. But GT3 I run 60 or maybe a 70.

biggbaddwolf
20-01-2016, 07:27
Just wondering what you guys set your AI cars at? I generally run 50, or a little bit more :cool:

Invincible
20-01-2016, 07:29
Mostly 85 to 100. For some car / track combos I could even make use of 105 %, if it were available...

Neil Bateman
20-01-2016, 07:33
100% all the time, win or lose, in some cars on some tracks that i am not so good on they are too fast but mostly i can beat them or be top 10ish, its challenging but i find it helps my racing.

Bealdor
20-01-2016, 07:38
Threads merged.

I'm running 100% AI.

Flat_out
20-01-2016, 09:08
80 when I use my controller on Xbox.

KasperVJensen
20-01-2016, 11:19
I tried 100% with the Clio Cup on Imola, running no assits and the AI was doing 2.01's which to me seems too fast. I hit a 2.03.8 in TT mode and I can't for the life of me imagine where I could improve 2.5 seconds.
But if someone has hit a 2.01 I would love to pick your brain!

EvoM3
20-01-2016, 11:31
I'm running 100% and it's way too easy in GT3 on most tracks.. but then I try the Renault Clio Cup at Raupuna and they are like 3 seconds faster than me even though I've got the world record for the same combination..

Bottom line is - inconsistent depending on car/track.

Querer
20-01-2016, 14:51
It is extremely inconsistent. But for me, most of the times, 70% is already to strong. But I am still not really used to drive with the wheel and therefore I am still some seconds behind my pad-records. Main issue: in narrow corners, the turn from e.g. 180 right to 180 left takes some miliseconds while moving the wheel that much takes ages longer. And yes, I know that you can adjust things like that, but I did not find yet a good setting for me...

Warren1571
21-01-2016, 04:46
Yes, I find it varies and is inconsistent between different car classes (or maybe I'm just better in some car classes than others) - either way I run between 65% and 80% and find that usually I have a competitive race.

Can't imagine being good enough to ever win on 100% in any class or category.

One of the great things about PCars I think is the ability to adjust that setting incrementally to suit your own ability.

Fernandito
21-01-2016, 08:33
is it me, or have the fatal consequences for the player when this stupid AI crashes into you when toned down a lot?. I have already played many open wheel races against the AI since patch 8.0 came out yesterday, and I think I can confirm such thing, even on the open wheel class, where playing against this maximum retardation AI was worse than the worst of the nightmares

nhitrac
21-01-2016, 09:34
85 - 90

I like racing mid/back of the pack as its more fun. I get that you need to win most races to get the Championship in motor racing but its so boring racing by yourself.

Ixoye56
21-01-2016, 10:01
I use 80 - 90% depending on the track and car used, I also use 10% higher in Qual.

EvoM3
21-01-2016, 12:32
There really needs to be a 120% option.

Fractured Life
21-01-2016, 12:53
There really needs to be a 120% option.


There needs to be some optimization of this I think. For example, practicing for a league race at Brands GP in the Formula C, the AI are so slow that even at level 100 I had to go into my setup and take the restrictor from 78.1 to 36.1 just to make the race in any way fun. They seemed unable to crack 1:19 whereas I was getting into the 15's fairly consistently.

Is there no way to link the fastest (legitimate) TT times to the LvL100 AI?

Mangoat
21-01-2016, 13:43
85 - 90

I like racing mid/back of the pack as its more fun. I get that you need to win most races to get the Championship in motor racing but its so boring racing by yourself.

Yeah. There's a difference between racing towards a goal (championship, points etc.) and just racing for fun - which to be honest is what most of us are doing here.

Shadowoff
21-01-2016, 18:57
I drive with 100% AI on any track with any car. I also think the AI is WAY to slow on 100%... I drive with the GTE on Le Mans against Aston Martin V12s and SLSs and I still easy win. So :/

SofiaMatata
22-01-2016, 10:23
On career 90% with no assists. Some tracks and car combinations are wayyy too hard for me on 90, but most of the time I finish first or at least in top 3. I do use restart button though if I make some major mistakes or something. I'd like to put the difficulty to 100, but I want to get the goals done... Maybe I'll start a parallel universe career where progression isn't the main goal...

wadafaka
26-01-2016, 16:54
Started at 30% AI because I was a total novice (no racing experience, nor wheel experience). Then I quickly moved up to ~50 and slowly worked my way up to 70. Currently I can usually qualify in top 5. I don't like to be far ahead or behind the AI. I can't imagine beating the AI on 100% any time soon though :) Also, a side note: I drive with real assists (because realism) and my career path has been Clio cup, GT5, GT4...

McKiernan
26-01-2016, 18:56
Did my 1st GT3 race at 100% AI earlier, was great fun. I just managed to squeeze in a fastest lap in practice right at the end of the session. Then put in a personal best at Watkins Glen GP (1.42.3**) to take pole. Got a nice start and held the lead for the first few laps, but got greedy on the throttle and spun her and lost two places. Finally got back in the lead and started building a gap towards what looked like a certain win. Sadly I understeered a bit wide and spun again two laps from the finish. In the end I came 12th, but was a lot of fun. Think I'll stick with a 100% for a while.

Fernandito
26-01-2016, 19:50
65-70%, which is enough taking into account how bad these mad AI bots are, crashing into me over and over again.

I love project cars and having so much fun with it, but the AI coding team behind this game should be shot in the balls with a shaved shotgun. What kind of coders choose "AI model A" = the fastest AI possible = blind retard AI cars that won't detect you 90% of the times, over "AI model B" =slower AI that detects you most of the times? Can't they realize that multiplayer exist for a reason?

Anyway this kind of AI seems like the plague. All games feature this kind of pathetic AI now a days. Driveclub; Assetto Corsa; Forza on harder levels..., all of them follow this pathetic model of stupid AI taken to nerdgasmic levels of retardation. Christ! GT AI can be the slowest, but at least they detect you. Bring me that any day. When I want crashers then I go MP!

racesafegrandad
29-01-2016, 19:57
I drive with 100% AI on any track with any car. I also think the AI is WAY to slow on 100%... I drive with the GTE on Le Mans against Aston Martin V12s and SLSs and I still easy win. So :/

Tell me, when you entered the earths atmosphere were you in invisible mode as you were not picked up on any radar? You are obviously an alien! :)

Kitt
29-01-2016, 20:58
With a pad and chase view 80/90% now I'm using a wheel and interior view had to knock it down to 50% to stand any chance of coming 1st.Hopefully one day I can go back up to the 80% range :).

Shadowoff
29-01-2016, 22:02
Tell me, when you entered the earths atmosphere were you in invisible mode as you were not picked up on any radar? You are obviously an alien! :)

I drive 3.57's in ths GTE at Le Mans and cant wait for the Alien Apocalypse... Then I can meat my friends after a long time again... :p

deedub777
29-01-2016, 22:12
In our little league we have a mix and match of skills so we set the AI at 75%. There's somewhere between 4 ~ 7 of us so we fill the grid so we always have 10 cars. The 75% doesn't trouble most of us but gives the slower guys something to challenge while they improve.
Having said that, we just started an LMP1 endurance series and set them to 45% to simulate a GT class. Bags of overtaking and spiced up the race with traffic. Loadsa fun.

Jbpd
10-02-2016, 13:53
Now we have all been playing for a while what AI setting are most ppl using

In single seaters I'm at about 95, and tin tops about 90, using pretty standard setups.

At this level I proper have to concentrate as I think the weakest part of my driving style is on the brakes as the AI are much better than me on the brakes.

Bealdor
10-02-2016, 13:58
Threads merged.

shrike005
10-02-2016, 15:21
I drive with DS4, GT3 usually at 80-85%, invitationals at 85-90%, I think AI is slightly easier to beat at invitational events than in actual GT3 competition.
Also, i can't be as fast with gamepad as with a wheel. I used to drive GTR with a wheel and could beat AI at 100% occasionally, enough to finish in podium place at the end of a season. But not with the gamepad, gamepad isn't and can't be smooth as a wheel, IMO, the same applies to every sim.
Also, when I spend too much time setting the car and then racing against AI at maximum strenght possible, it often becomes boring because AI and me both drive excellent laps and nobody is actualy racing. When I go into race with a decent setup and AI at 80-85, there are some overtakes and race is actualy a great fun to play.

Grunotti
11-02-2016, 16:37
I use different difficulty %.
I use a kind of bonus-malus system.

When i win a race the next race is 5 % more difficult.
When i finish sixth place its 1 % more easyer.

This is what i use.

1th + 5 %
2th + 4 %
3th + 3 %
4th + 2 %
5th + 1 %

6th -1%
7th -2%
8th -3%
9th -4%
10th-5%

Any place lower Always -5%

kidcurry
12-02-2016, 02:54
My buddy and I run 100%. We start at back of 34 car field and run 1 Hr gt3 races. We score points for number of postions gained and loss points for crashes and 4 wheels off. I can usually get into top 10 or higher by race end. Buddy runs all aids I run none. Some tracks are harder than others so we may set AI down to 95%.

RudyOnRails
17-02-2016, 00:14
Started on 65% using the gamepad and all assists on. Bumped to ~70% for the superkarts.

Bought a G29 and switched assists to "real". Now I'm having a nice challenge experimenting between 62%-65% for Classic GTs and GT3. Raining and/or night races requires 60% sometimes.

BTW if you're thinking about buying a wheel, do it! Will transform your immersion and experience forever. Will never use a controller again!

Gloomy
17-02-2016, 02:45
I stick with 70. With a wheel and real assists. 80 is closer to my level but I like to win so I keep it at 70. It also varies with different car and track combos, I've been able to hold my own at 90 at times and have to drop it down to 50 at others.

kojot
24-03-2016, 19:44
I am playing with wheel, 3 pedals, H shifter (when original car do not support paddles) and mostly I play with 50 - 60% AI. Generally this gives me end positions from 1st to 5th, but I am still casual.

Schnizz58
24-03-2016, 20:07
I think I started out around 50%. When I win races I bump it up a point or two. When I finish outside the points I bump it down. I'm at 75% right now.

Rambo_Commando
25-03-2016, 03:29
I have the AI set to 100% otherwise winning the championship is way too easy because the AI is inconsistent. One race my teammate will finish second. The next race he will finish in 15th.

Also, I never restart races for any reason. If the AI takes me out in the first corner then it is what it is. If I crash or get a mechanical failure then onto the next race.

Mulder71
25-03-2016, 10:04
100% for single seaters and i recently started a renault clio cup season which i have at 90% now. Must say the ai behaviour is much better in clio than in single seaters.

Haiden
25-03-2016, 14:03
I have the AI set to 100% otherwise winning the championship is way too easy because the AI is inconsistent. One race my teammate will finish second. The next race he will finish in 15th.

Also, I never restart races for any reason. If the AI takes me out in the first corner then it is what it is. If I crash or get a mechanical failure then onto the next race.

I've been thinking about starting to do the same. It'll make for extremely varied seasons, and definitely change my racing experience.

Rambo_Commando
25-03-2016, 15:01
I've been thinking about starting to do the same. It'll make for extremely varied seasons, and definitely change my racing experience.

I do this because the weather is scripted and I tend to do a minimum of 3 seasons in a single tier. There are some tracks I haven't even raced on because of crashing out. By doing this, the repetition is reduced and longevity increased. More importantly it adds to the real life immersion.

Schnizz58
25-03-2016, 15:11
I've been thinking of doing that too. I did all the open wheel and prototype classes except F/A, got my Zero to Hero achievement and I'm currently messing around in GT cars (just started a GT4 season) so it wouldn't really bother me if I got punted by the AI. And as Rambo said, it adds to the immersion. Stuff like that happens.

konnos
25-03-2016, 18:04
Must say the ai behaviour is much better in clio than in single seaters.

I have been trying the Clio lately and I also found this to be true. It seems less agressive, or might just be the fact that because of the lower speeds their reactions are tamer.

CarlRaven
26-03-2016, 06:35
10%. To me, a racing game to me is the experience, not the difficulty.

Ixoye56
26-03-2016, 09:29
I use different difficulty %.
I use a kind of bonus-malus system.

When i win a race the next race is 5 % more difficult.
When i finish sixth place its 1 % more easyer.

This is what i use.

1th + 5 %
2th + 4 %
3th + 3 %
4th + 2 %
5th + 1 %

6th -1%
7th -2%
8th -3%
9th -4%
10th-5%

Any place lower Always -5%

Interesting idea! I will try this, which level of difficulty do you start with? I'm thinking about starting with 80% AI.

ingrobny
26-03-2016, 10:06
65% to 70%
Default controller setting.
Automatic gearing.
Full damage and mechanical failure.
Real fuel usage.
Anti-lock brakes.
Stability control.
Traction control.
Restart: off

Chap904
28-03-2016, 03:12
70%-75%

MillsLayne
28-03-2016, 03:58
70%-75%, and even on this, I struggle like crazy.

Roger Prynne
28-03-2016, 11:46
70%-75%, and even on this, I struggle like crazy.

That's what makes it interesting and challenging.

Ravager619
05-04-2016, 21:41
I started out with a gamepad and at 50%, but now that I have a wheel I have career mode at 67%. I just did my first practice session in race weekend (but no race) at 80% and liked it better. I wasn't the fastest in practice, but I was in the Top 3 and the AI forced me to be more accountable when it comes to hitting my marks. I also take all of the driving assists off.

Spudcake
05-04-2016, 22:01
I've been playing at 80% recently. I used to play at 100% in general and get really good races, but the AI some much more competitive now.

Jussi Viljami Karjalainen
05-04-2016, 22:35
100% for the most part, otherwise it tends to get tedious. With many cars I still end up having to restrict the car or pick a slower one in the class (mainly with road cars) to give the AI a fighting chance.

There are some exceptions like the Zonda R, which on some tracks has the 100 AI pulling 2 seconds quicker times than the fastest humans have been capable of. =P
I've been playing at 80% recently. I used to play at 100% in general and get really good races, but the AI some much more competitive now.Oh? I had the opposite experience, especially with road cars. A while ago they slowed down significantly. =/

Spudcake
06-04-2016, 10:12
Oh? I had the opposite experience, especially with road cars. A while ago they slowed down significantly. =/

I used to race in the Caterham Seven Classic at 100% and get very close races, where I had to be on top form to be competitive. Now I'm getting that at 80%. The Formula Gulfs seem much better aswell, despite reducing difficulty.

It could be me though. I barely played the game for a few months. Maybe I need to get used to things again. All of the cars do seem a bit wheel-spinny though, which is something that didn't happen before.

dog_film
27-12-2017, 00:21
Not trying to sound L331 here, but 100% all assists off and I still find it a bit easy, Wish there was a higher setting tbh...

Gonna have to call you on that one. No way anyone (even a proven professional driver) can realistically say that. Everything off? Opponents at maximum? No way.

Gix916
27-12-2017, 10:50
Gonna have to call you on that one. No way anyone (even a proven professional driver) can realistically say that. Everything off? Opponents at maximum? No way.

you know this thread is about PCars1 which was easier

Olijke Poffer
27-12-2017, 17:17
I use 80/65.. perfect for me. Need to fight for my place in the race.

yannara
17-07-2018, 06:28
TC, GT4, GT3.

70% - little bit too easy for me. Im 1-2 sec faster than others in the race.
75% - seems to be my level, I can compete in top-5 quite easily
79% - I can keep it running, but if I make even simple mistake, I will stay behind and loose the position...

joelsantos24
13-11-2018, 16:30
Usually, I use 70-75%. The 70% level is still slightly competitive, in my opinion. Although, I manage to get pole and win most races, I suppose. The 75% also seems to be my level. Pole positions are harder to achieve and races are much more competitive. Above that level, mistakes are, indeed, punished severely.

Olijke Poffer
13-11-2018, 21:26
At the moment I play 90/85 so a bit higher than a few months ago. :D

EvenElectric
14-11-2018, 01:42
Seems the AI really took a big step up over the last couple patches. I took a break from the game for months, came back to my prior 81% setting.. it was a completely different experience. Really tough. Had to dial things WAY back to 60... for now. Lol. On a PC + wheel + VR.

Nice work dev team!

bmanic
14-11-2018, 01:45
Depends on track+car combination and my skill of said combination but usually around 105 to 110 with 100% aggression. Rain races I have to use 120% as otherwise the AI has absolutely no chance at all.. even then I usually win with half a minute or so on the clock. :(

yannara
12-02-2019, 11:25
Started with 50%, tried even 80%, but feels like the final selection for me is 70%.