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h3lld3r
01-06-2015, 11:20
I've done a topic here, talking about players who stop the car crossed the track in strategically great places to disrupt an entire group of players. Others simply play dirty, especially in the last corners of the last lap. (http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?26501-SERIOUS-Multiplayer)

HERE BELOW is one of my last replay. Look at the mess that was the race in the end I was indiguinado, because I know that the Impunity prevails here PROJECT CARS

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/PACIENTE%20DO%20SUS/video/2857973

obviously I completely lost reason and tried to fight back, but how not to get so angry in the face of such an attitude? all want justice? not? but I do, I want a serious and fair game, want a simulated race, so I bought PROJECT CARS instead of MARIO KART, ok? I had delayed the braking point precisely to prevent it hit me back, but it was not enough, he still hit me, and then started the mess and could not finish the race, a race that I led almost all, fairly and honest.

HLR Ghosty
01-06-2015, 12:09
To me it just looks like he outbrakes himself as it was a slight tap, you then proceeded to ruin the race for everyone.

kaa0s
01-06-2015, 12:20
That was just a normal little accident that didn't even affect anything so much.. If you get so mad about something like that then its no wonder if most of the races are destruction derbys for you. There are people who go out of their way to mess you up, crash on you full force during braking etc. - worry about those ppl not something like this.

h3lld3r
01-06-2015, 12:55
To me it just looks like he outbrakes himself as it was a slight tap, you then proceeded to ruin the race for everyone.

I am afraid you do not understand ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MOTORSPORT.

this accident for normal to you why you are a NOOB, or you also practice this rammig Tactical.

So let me teach you ... if you want to brake late and hit a curve, then you take another line of the track, because the law of physics, said by ISAAC NEWTON says that two bodies do not take SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME .. .

you went to school? I think not, and attended, did not pay attention in class.

So to say that only I can avoid hitting behind? I do not think ... I think if you have some potential critical view, you will see that in any race that goes on TV pilots practice the same tactics I'm speaking here for you.

321Respawn
01-06-2015, 13:07
Wait a month and the noob rammers will be bored and then we can all race .

HLR Ghosty
01-06-2015, 13:12
I am afraid you do not understand ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MOTORSPORT.

this accident for normal to you why you are a NOOB, or you also practice this rammig Tactical.

So let me teach you ... if you want to brake late and hit a curve, then you take another line of the track, because the law of physics, said by ISAAC NEWTON says that two bodies do not take SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME .. .

you went to school? I think not, and attended, did not pay attention in class.

So to say that only I can avoid hitting behind? I do not think ... I think if you have some potential critical view, you will see that in any race that goes on TV pilots practice the same tactics I'm speaking here for you.

Where in my post did I say you could have avoided bring hit from behind and you say I never went to school.

As for me being a tactical rammer you can ask anyone I race with if that is the case, you want to call me a noob then go for your life.

h3lld3r
01-06-2015, 13:15
DEVELOPERS suddenly be cool guys make a mandatory TUTORIAL for everyone who wants to ENABLE to play multiplayer, type:

- How to avoid accidents (do not leave your car on the track crossed)
- Overtaking techniques:
*** a. By attacking line out
*** b. attacking from inside line
*** c. defending position: braking on inside line and keeping the inside line in the curve.
*** d. making "x"
*** c. taking an "x"

and among many other techniques that these guys seem to have never heard..

_MB_
01-06-2015, 13:17
So to say that only I can avoid hitting behind? I do not think ... I think if you have some potential critical view, you will see that in any race that goes on TV pilots practice the same tactics I'm speaking here for you.

What!
Where did he say you should avoid???

As he said it looks like he outbraked himself call it misjudgement or whatever,it happens.We are human afterall
You then proceeded to block the guy while doing so others got caught up in your mess.
Its racing contact will happen and the only way multiplayer will get better if people stop retaliating

mister dog
01-06-2015, 13:19
I am afraid you do not understand ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MOTORSPORT.

this accident for normal to you why you are a NOOB, or you also practice this rammig Tactical.

So let me teach you ... if you want to brake late and hit a curve, then you take another line of the track, because the law of physics, said by ISAAC NEWTON says that two bodies do not take SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME .. .

you went to school? I think not, and attended, did not pay attention in class.

So to say that only I can avoid hitting behind? I do not think ... I think if you have some potential critical view, you will see that in any race that goes on TV pilots practice the same tactics I'm speaking here for you.

You don't make friends easily do you?

h3lld3r
01-06-2015, 13:23
Where in my post did I say you could have avoided bring hit from behind and you say I never went to school.

As for me being a tactical rammer you can ask anyone I race with if that is the case, you want to call me a noob then go for your life.

if you do not know the braking point of a curve, then you really think the person hitting ago is being prudent? Of course not.

If you want to pass someone, then learn racing the track, otherwise you do not have competence to overtake him then you should be punished for doing shit.

h3lld3r
01-06-2015, 13:33
What!
Where did he say you should avoid???

As he said it looks like he outbraked himself call it misjudgement or whatever,it happens.We are human afterall
You then proceeded to block the guy while doing so others got caught up in your mess.
Its racing contact will happen and the only way multiplayer will get better if people stop retaliating

the problem is that this happens ALMOST EVERY TIME me, and I do not do it with anyone, I accept to finish the race in second or third place if any, only surpass really have the opportunity, I DID NOT CREATE MAKING BRAKE LATE technique, beating on the back of others

And I say more, but the beat could be completely avoided if he and YOU know something about MOTORSPORT

xxBENxx
01-06-2015, 13:38
Sounds like your angry, just chill dude at least you get to race online not like 90% of the rest of us.

h3lld3r
01-06-2015, 13:45
Sounds like your angry, just chill dude at least you get to race online not like 90% of the rest of us.

I know this will not end, just want there to be a correct punishment for that.

look in the mirror watching this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RzMK_qQ5vY

xxBENxx
01-06-2015, 13:50
doesn't matter what game you play, Your always get the odd idiot that thinks its cool to ram others off the track.

Everyone wants to win and some don't care how they do it.

_MB_
01-06-2015, 13:53
And I say more, but the beat could be completely avoided if he and YOU know something about MOTORSPORT

Please dont assume you know what i do or don't know about motorsport

I like you and many others want good racing but you are playing with online randoms contact will happen.Even the best drivers in this game will have contact it happens heack it even happens in league racing and real life.
As for me i like to think im a respectful driver if you disbelieve me then feel free to check out my videos(i have posted a few in the video section) and judge for yourself.I get knocked about constantly,i have to brake or lift off to avoid others and give places back if i feel im at fault but never do i act out in revenge as this only fuels the fire!

Thats me done on this thread!

Mr Zumbi
01-06-2015, 13:53
To me it just looks like he outbrakes himself as it was a slight tap, you then proceeded to ruin the race for everyone.


The good guy you should have some kind of problem

Our friend is doing a post in order to improve our online experience

The producer should think about creating a kind mechanism where the guy who mess around the race should be marked in order to be shunned by other players
when they already are marked would be easy to remove from play

h3lld3r
01-06-2015, 14:02
The good guy you should have some kind of problem

Our friend is doing a post in order to improve our online experience

The producer should think about creating a kind mechanism where the guy who mess around the race should be marked in order to be shunned by other players
when they already are marked would be easy to remove from play

THX Mr Zumbi :)...

thank god there are people who understand that there is a problem :chargrined:

grateful

hostaman
01-06-2015, 15:37
I feel your pain, but that was a small bump. There are massive troll problems with the multiplayer which really put me off the game, but i'm afraid it looks more like your rage started this one off.

LADY GEMMA JANE
01-06-2015, 15:42
multiplayer on all racing games seems to be the same with rammers and such (

RetroNooB
01-06-2015, 17:02
Easy solution, make flags and penalties mandatory in all online race meetings, including black flag

TurboNoob
01-06-2015, 17:23
multiplayer on all racing games seems to be the same with rammers and such (

NO/ JUST MAKE THE RATING SYSTEM! Why is no one except Iracing not think about multiplayer ? If you are noob and rammer- u must play with noobs and rammers, if you are good player, you must play with good players. Its hard ? VERY HARD ? Filter by rating - hard to do? In iracing i can join random session (no need to search for friends and wait for friends) and I know that the driver would go on the grass rather than slam my ass.
Developers want money ? Make good multipleer, because the 100000 polygons per car and rain can quickly get bored without a good multiplayer. For hotlapping we have Asseto Corsa, now we have Project Cars, two games with a boring online.

Charger
01-06-2015, 19:31
The guy left on the track may have had an issue that wouldn't allow him to get off and move, it happens, you got past him cleanly so no drama there.

What I did see was someone outbraked himself and tapped your rear pushing you off your line, it was a racing incident, you then proceeded to alter your line to completely block him and take back the place you lost, as said the others caught up and weren't expecting you to be going so slow after that and it caused a bit of a mess, but you know who caused it all, yourself, if you had just carried on he may have given you the place back after his mistake, I know I would have.

You say it always happens to you, ask yourself why??

I raced with people like you and heard them all the time saying I am going to get them back, but what happens is their little revenge plot causes a clusterfuck for all the people behind them and then everyone gets angry and it becomes a demolition derby.

Take the bumps and knocks, dust yourself off and get back into it, if you are good enough and consistently fast on your laps you will prevail.

A lot of people think because they got the fastest lap in qualifying that they are the fastest person on the track in that particular race and deserve to keep pole position, fast laps don't win races consistent ones do!

h3lld3r
01-06-2015, 19:31
people, see, try to understand ...

say that these hits are accidental, okay, I know that happen by accident ... BUT

the fact that you can take advantage of the situation is that makes this "ACCIDENTAL" be questioned, which actually turns into a real TECHNIQUE ONLINE overdrive.

when I'm playing and push someone unintentionally, I hope my opponent to recover and then then try again cleanly.

RARE thing to see, something that only happens in a room with friends.

BUT, it could be made an automatic programming system that would prevent this advantage.

I think it's fun to apply overtaking real technical .. so I'm not playing mario kart or forza horizon2.

But there are people who simply think cool turn this game MARIO KART.

puff

Charger
01-06-2015, 19:41
Ok, you accept it was an accident but you didn't give him a chance to take the place back so how do you know he wasn't going to?

It's a bad example you used there to be honest.

Simple solution would be a time penalty if the car behind hit you at a certain G, lets say under 1G and you get away it, with anything over you get a penalty like a track cut?

_Kicks_
01-06-2015, 20:19
when I'm playing and push someone unintentionally, I hope my opponent to recover and then then try again cleanly.


So, why did you not listen to your own advice, right here?

h3lld3r
01-06-2015, 21:06
So, why did you not listen to your own advice, right here?

Bcause am I tired of impunity .. and likewise people disturb the race ... there comes a time that patience has limits and .... since there is law , it's fun messing up ? So let's gonna mess? It is not so cool you think ? With Beats ? Destruction ? Let's go , I play dirty too!

_Kicks_
01-06-2015, 21:18
Bcause am I tired of impunity .. and likewise people disturb the race ... there comes a time that patience has limits and .... since there is law , it's fun messing up ? So let's gonna mess? It is not so cool you think ? With Beats ? Destruction ? Let's go , I play dirty too!

When my patience is wearing thin and I have thoughts of retribution, that's when I let the race finish and log off - to come back another day.

You're not wrong in the sense that there are some fools out there, out to ruin everybody's day - but as you'll see in my other post on this topic, some of us are learning the ropes and finding the braking points. It doesn't happen over-night and even experienced racers make mistakes.

Bite your lip, and finish the race as best you can. If you resort to other tactics due to anger - then you don't become any better, especially if the driver did it unintentionally.

Write a rage-post on the forums, by all means :)

satco1066
01-06-2015, 23:30
It's bad sometimes to race with rude drivers. But in your first video on 2:20 you were offtrack and did return without care of drivers on track. So you seem to be a crasher too.

Hyflex
01-06-2015, 23:36
I mean look at this guy...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR7MF3wF_EM

It kept doing it on purpose and then leaving, he messed up my hotlap and then messed up my next lap and then messed up some other guys lap.

eracerhead
01-06-2015, 23:44
All I see there is a guy losing traction in the first lefthander (you can see his tire smoke) who then gets turned around and is stuck in your racing line. Then we see you driving offtrack just so you can position yourself to retaliate. I'll bet the two drivers that went by had no clue what you were doing.

Hyflex
01-06-2015, 23:49
All I see there is a guy losing traction in the first lefthander (you can see his tire smoke) who then gets turned around and is stuck in your racing line. Then we see you driving offtrack just so you can position yourself to retaliate. I'll bet the two drivers that went by had no clue what you were doing.

Watch it again, he was doing it on purpose every corner, ignoring blue flags. He does it again 25 seconds later to the other guy.

Escortfan17
01-06-2015, 23:58
I've done a topic here, talking about players who stop the car crossed the track in strategically great places to disrupt an entire group of players. Others simply play dirty, especially in the last corners of the last lap. (http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?26501-SERIOUS-Multiplayer)

HERE BELOW is one of my last replay. Look at the mess that was the race in the end I was indiguinado, because I know that the Impunity prevails here PROJECT CARS

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/PACIENTE%20DO%20SUS/video/2857973

obviously I completely lost reason and tried to fight back, but how not to get so angry in the face of such an attitude? all want justice? not? but I do, I want a serious and fair game, want a simulated race, so I bought PROJECT CARS instead of MARIO KART, ok? I had delayed the braking point precisely to prevent it hit me back, but it was not enough, he still hit me, and then started the mess and could not finish the race, a race that I led almost all, fairly and honest.

WOW, That is 2 minutes of my life i am not getting back!

ChrisK
02-06-2015, 02:33
You don't make friends easily do you?

lol have to admit, I got a good laugh out of it !
All that anger from one little tap which looks like a normal racing incident. Wow.

RetroNooB
02-06-2015, 05:40
people, see, try to understand ...

say that these hits are accidental, okay, I know that happen by accident ... BUT

the fact that you can take advantage of the situation is that makes this "ACCIDENTAL" be questioned, which actually turns into a real TECHNIQUE ONLINE overdrive.

when I'm playing and push someone unintentionally, I hope my opponent to recover and then then try again cleanly.

RARE thing to see, something that only happens in a room with friends.

BUT, it could be made an automatic programming system that would prevent this advantage.

I think it's fun to apply overtaking real technical .. so I'm not playing mario kart or forza horizon2.

But there are people who simply think cool turn this game MARIO KART.

puff

From what i jus witnessed in your video, had that been a real life situation, the guy who tapped you under braking would've been classed as a racing incident, but your actions afterwards would've got you banned from all motorsports events worldwide.

Your game rage retaliation moment ruined the race for everyone behind you, then because your still raging after the race, you open a rage thread in the forum hoping to jusify your unjustify-able actions!

h3lld3r
02-06-2015, 10:41
From what i jus witnessed in your video, had that been a real life situation, the guy who tapped you under braking would've been classed as a racing incident, but your actions afterwards would've got you banned from all motorsports events worldwide.

Your game rage retaliation moment ruined the race for everyone behind you, then because your still raging after the race, you open a rage thread in the forum hoping to jusify your unjustify-able actions!
Let's stop our hypocrisy and post profiles P Cars?

h3lld3r
02-06-2015, 11:23
From what i jus witnessed in your video, had that been a real life situation, the guy who tapped you under braking would've been classed as a racing incident, but your actions afterwards would've got you banned from all motorsports events worldwide.

Your game rage retaliation moment ruined the race for everyone behind you, then because your still raging after the race, you open a rage thread in the forum hoping to jusify your unjustify-able actions!

Normal? accidental? Look, I'll tell you something ... I say it was closed eyes that touch "ACCIDENTAL" millions and billions of times FOLLOWED. If you can not overcome without knocking, then assume you can not play without knocking.

show me any one of replay surpassing that way in a REAL RACE without taking punishment, LET'S SHOW FOR WE THAT HAPPENS IN FACT, BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ON RACING simulators.

h3lld3r
02-06-2015, 11:27
From what i jus witnessed in your video, had that been a real life situation, the guy who tapped you under braking would've been classed as a racing incident, but your actions afterwards would've got you banned from all motorsports events worldwide.

Your game rage retaliation moment ruined the race for everyone behind you, then because your still raging after the race, you open a rage thread in the forum hoping to jusify your unjustify-able actions!

come on good guy, I came here to show that there is a huge flaw in the multiplayer game, I gave my face to slap without hypocrisy and are you stoning me.

show us how good you are, how you run multiplayer and how much you are quitter.

my profile is here:
205815

let's go! show us your's profile.

HLR AlphaDog
02-06-2015, 11:53
I am afraid you do not understand ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MOTORSPORT.

this accident for normal to you why you are a NOOB, or you also practice this rammig Tactical.

So let me teach you ... if you want to brake late and hit a curve, then you take another line of the track, because the law of physics, said by ISAAC NEWTON says that two bodies do not take SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME .. .

you went to school? I think not, and attended, did not pay attention in class.

So to say that only I can avoid hitting behind? I do not think ... I think if you have some potential critical view, you will see that in any race that goes on TV pilots practice the same tactics I'm speaking here for you.Ok, firstly, accident or not, resorting to the same tatics that you are here complaining about makes you know better than he is, and make any further statements null and void.
Secondly, you choose to hurl insults rather than have an actual fact buried somewhere in your text, giving doubt as to your education level, not my friend Ghostys. Lastly, if you are not having luck in a lobby, leave and find another one, rather than get yourself all worked up. You are welcome to race with me anytime as long as you can keep your anger in check.

h3lld3r
02-06-2015, 12:12
hey everybody, you watched the video? http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/PACIENTE%20DO%20SUS/video/2857973
at 00:43 I made a mistake and left the track, I play so clean that I waited my opponent pass me and then then went back to the track, if I played as dirty as well, just put my car on the track at low speed which PROBABLY Accidental cause any collision as you like to talk here.

at 0:54 and 0:57 I took enough care to avoid a collision, with respect and braking before, WHY? why I was doing the same trajectory that my opponent, who was in MY FRONT.

You can be sure I will NEVER overcome through a collision, but you think it's normal, you are defending it and you want to stone me?

I do not believe this is accidental, while people can take advantage of the situation I NEVER buy this idea.

TrevorAustin
02-06-2015, 12:26
hey everybody, you watched the video? http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/PACIENTE%20DO%20SUS/video/2857973
at 00:43 I made a mistake and left the track, I play so clean that I waited my opponent pass me and then then went back to the track, if I played as dirty as well, just put my car on the track at low speed which PROBABLY Accidental cause any collision as you like to talk here.

at 0:54 and 0:57 I took enough care to avoid a collision, with respect and braking before, WHY? why I was doing the same trajectory that my opponent, who was in MY FRONT.

You can be sure I will NEVER overcome through a collision, but you think it's normal, you are defending it and you want to stone me?

I do not believe this is accidental, while people can take advantage of the situation I NEVER buy this idea.

Whatever you believe, and it's pretty clear that most people here disagree with you. You losing your temper and ruining everybody elses race, you admit, on purpose, makes you much worse than a bad driver who maybe should learn a bit more before multiplayer. I do hope you haven't got a driving licence and drive for real, you sound like you have a dangerous temper.

Can't you see that your actions after the crash make you WORSE than the person causing the first incident, even if they did it on purpose, so did you.

ccvampyre
02-06-2015, 12:29
all of this is completety pointless, as regardless the premise is true..

project cars is a land without law.

the penalties are almost non existent.
even GT had more, and that is barely playable in public lobbies.

Motorhead Racer
02-06-2015, 12:34
RUBBING IS RACING!!!
You are driving at high speeds, trying for that gap, trying to brake that little bit later, mistakes happen, that it what makes racing, racing!! If it was easy and nobody could ever make a mistake, it would be boring!!!! Just look at Formula 1, even these guys make mistakes and they are meant to be the best drivers in the world, same goes for LMP, GT, anything MISTAKES HAPPEN, get over it

I can see why you are maybe a little annoyed about the tap, but it was just a tap, it happens, you claim to know about motorsport but seem to have no idea about 'racing incidents'
You actions were a million times worse, because we do not know if the other guy accidentally tapped you or did it on purpose, but we DO know your action were on purpose.
Been said many many times
DO NOT RETALIATE, you just drag more people into the shit storm, and create a bigger problem, and guess what, these rammers, these people who crash on purpose guess what they want more than anything else A REACTION, do not feed them!
They will get bored, they will move on (F1 game around the corner), it will get better, but never EVER react like that again, normally I would say it brings you down to their level, but this was even worse, you made yourself even worse than them

h3lld3r
02-06-2015, 12:44
look that at 3:38
https://account.xbox.com/pt-br/gameclip/da1f69af-482b-48f6-b5e9-30fb1b16a59e?gamerTag=RetroNoob&scid=73940100-ce28-4018-8964-96c471b05334

the computer racer was so ninja, so fast reflex, which avoided the strike would you do it

Here's an example of how to pass without playing human opponents off the track.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/PACIENTE%20DO%20SUS/video/2630096

h3lld3r
02-06-2015, 12:51
Whatever you believe, and it's pretty clear that most people here disagree with you. You losing your temper and ruining everybody elses race, you admit, on purpose, makes you much worse than a bad driver who maybe should learn a bit more before multiplayer. I do hope you haven't got a driving licence and drive for real, you sound like you have a dangerous temper.

Can't you see that your actions after the crash make you WORSE than the person causing the first incident, even if they did it on purpose, so did you.

WOW you are perfect !!!! Anger never had anything, you are better than Jesus

ChrisK
02-06-2015, 13:22
You need to get laid man. lol

TrevorAustin
02-06-2015, 13:28
OK, let's look at this a different way.

Look at this video of a completely selfish terrible driver ruining a race for EVERYBODY else who had been having a good race just because somebody tapped him offline. How selfish can you get!!! HE SHOULD BE BANNED.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/PACIENTE%20DO%20SUS/video/2857973

TrevorAustin
02-06-2015, 13:30
WOW you are perfect !!!! Anger never had anything, you are better than Jesus

What a stupid comment. What a surprise. Seriously, how old are you?

Bealdor
02-06-2015, 13:33
Put the pitchforks away guys. It's perfectly possible to disagree without resorting to snide remarks.

Keep the discussion civil or this thread gets locked. Thanks.

Mattias
02-06-2015, 13:37
Most of the discussion here has been focused on the tap, I'd like to bring up the car you highlighted in the video which had stopped on the track.

This can happen... he might have spun out and stalled the engine, and it is a good thing that he didn't move until all other racers had passed.
If he had moved he might actually have caused a huge accident.
Optimal would have been him spinning out on the grass of course, but that does not always happen.

As for the tap, that's normal and I've seen it a lot in real life racing. Of course it's not good, but it happens, and it did not look like he was ramming you at all.
It actually just got worse by the way you acted afterwards.

Someone who wants to ram you will really ram you hard.
Join a group of people driving clean instead. People you can trust on the track.
And enjoy the racing experience, even crashes can happen with the best of racers.

justonce68
02-06-2015, 14:27
85 online races on xbox ....dude flip me an invite to your lobby, I have 9 races and every single one has been a bitch to get into, if you had the problems I have getting into a lobby you would then have a real reason to rage like you are.

As for getting hit from behind, show me a player on PC or console that hasn't tapped someone from behind. we have all done it. It doesn't make it right but there are going to be every boyracer and his bird racing this game for a few months as it is the one and only sim on console.

They will get bored and go back to horizon and drive club when they realise they cant control a car, most of them have complained on here that cars are un-drivable and the game is unplayable.
Take a chill pill and look at the bigger picture

Megalomanic87
02-06-2015, 14:44
Helld3r, not trying to cause a war here, but after the driver tapped you, it appeared he was prepared to give the place back before you cut his nose off, if you accelerated past him (like you should have done) then i doubt he would have taken you out at the next corner.

Just how it looks to me, and most of the forum are in agreement from what i've seen.
As for the guy on the middle of the track earlier in the lap, i'm afraid that can happen even in real racing, best you can do is just deal with it best you can, and you did.


I also noticed a bit of lag at the beginning of the video, this MAY have played a part in the incident.

HarryHoodlum
02-06-2015, 14:47
That first little nudge wasn't that big of a deal at all.

As much as I think public online is mostly impossible to enjoy, your example isn't very good. People who qualify in 12th place running full speed into the first chicane would be a better example.

RetroNooB
02-06-2015, 16:27
come on good guy, I came here to show that there is a huge flaw in the multiplayer game, I gave my face to slap without hypocrisy and are you stoning me.

show us how good you are, how you run multiplayer and how much you are quitter.


let's go! show us your's profile.

Feel free to look at my vids on my xb1 profile, in fact watch my online race movie "BRAGGING RIGHTS" full 13min video, i end up at the back after going off then win the race with no contact whatsoever.

Like i said your actions were unjustifyable.

RetroNooB
02-06-2015, 16:41
Normal? accidental? Look, I'll tell you something ... I say it was closed eyes that touch "ACCIDENTAL" millions and billions of times FOLLOWED. If you can not overcome without knocking, then assume you can not play without knocking.

show me any one of replay surpassing that way in a REAL RACE without taking punishment, LET'S SHOW FOR WE THAT HAPPENS IN FACT, BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ON RACING simulators.

This makes about as much sense to me as a japanese vcr manual!

h3lld3r
02-06-2015, 17:06
Feel free to look at my vids on my xb1 profile, in fact watch my online race movie "BRAGGING RIGHTS" full 13min video, i end up at the back after going off then win the race with no contact whatsoever.

Like i said your actions were unjustifyable.

I taste with videos, I tried several times to move from CLEAN way the guy called MAGGABALLS in all of them he threw me off the track.

I had BILLION opportunities to be a guy like you who believe in accidents and have it last touching him accidentally in sa second time I passed him he threw me again off the track ... the third time I tried to pass I do I tried to accelerate too much and my car lost grip, an almost impossible task because most people play this way, like a destruction derby or twist metal.

Here is the passage in which he hited me! FOR THE SECOND TIME! off the track, so I forced too much traction in the third turn next, to prevent it threw me out again but could not draw enough:

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/PACIENTE%20DO%20SUS/video/2916403

and here is the beginning of the race until the time that inexplicably the crap DVR stopped recording:

(uploading) I share the link later

RetroNooB
02-06-2015, 17:10
hey everybody, you watched the video? http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/PACIENTE%20DO%20SUS/video/2857973

You can be sure I will NEVER overcome through a collision, but you think it's normal, you are defending it and you want to stone me?

I do not believe this is accidental, while people can take advantage of the situation I NEVER buy this idea.

Maybe getting stoned might help with your agression issues!? :fat:

Megalomanic87
02-06-2015, 17:57
let's go! show us your's profile.

I noticed mine are considerably better than yours :) :)
205847

Charger
02-06-2015, 19:42
I noticed mine are considerably better than yours :) :)
205847

So you have 76 races and 76 poles, that is because you hosted those race I presume with no qualifying, host always get pole ;-)

Aletdownofstate
02-06-2015, 21:02
Last race of the night, open lobbies, 5 min qualifying. Not sure what I was expecting it being Monaco and all, but still. More lol than anything else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkNy_nGRvug

Neil Bateman
02-06-2015, 21:31
Last race of the night, open lobbies, 5 min qualifying. Not sure what I was expecting it being Monaco and all, but still. More lol than anything else.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkNy_nGRvug


Absolutely hilarious, looks like a group of teachers took their PS4's to nursery class and said " right children, today were all going to play a new game"

Tobias
02-06-2015, 22:18
1. Try to do the best times on qualifications and start on 1-4 positions
2. Survive first turn:)
3. Profit

Stop being mad at rammers, its pointless. Game is fresh and there's lot of players who dont give a fuck about racing. Theres lot of bad players like me who accidently ram people without purpose too(Im really trying hard but sometimes I make mistakes).

Every race with 20-30 people is destruction derby if you start at low positions(7-30). btw. I noticed some dirty players who talk a lot about rammers on chat. Unfortunately they ram you on straight road or block your way even if you are faster. There's lot of hypocrites in sim world:)

Just enjoy racing and stop being mad at people in public lobbies.

Megalomanic87
03-06-2015, 05:16
So you have 76 races and 76 poles, that is because you hosted those race I presume with no qualifying, host always get pole ;-)

Actually i think it's because i get practice poles too, i know for a fact i've not poled qualifying on every race i've participated, but i get a lot of practice poles since most people either don't bother or leave the lobby.

o0kami
03-06-2015, 07:18
For me one of my first races was a bit surprising...

On the start of the race, after the exit, the one in front of me decided to go backwards and hit me when I was starting. Who was banned from the race? Me :)

mister dog
03-06-2015, 09:23
Probably mentioned already but check the online reputation part:

http://www.projectcarsgame.com/online.html

I guess when that goes live, it will stop the anarchy in online land.

h3lld3r
03-06-2015, 11:02
see this video at 0:16, the same guy MEGGABALLS trying to come clean without hitting anyone
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/PACIENTE%20DO%20SUS/video/2916404

o0kami
03-06-2015, 12:55
Probably mentioned already but check the online reputation part:

http://www.projectcarsgame.com/online.html

I guess when that goes live, it will stop the anarchy in online land.

Yeah, some day will be... Meanwhile most of the public races are a waste of time if you aren't lucky.

Freddyforehand
03-06-2015, 16:45
Head over to www.VRroom.org guys and i guarantee that you'll get non of the above nonsense.. A very professionally run website that is currently running induction rooms for wheel only racers.

Motorhead Racer
03-06-2015, 20:31
Having watched a few videos, aside from the obvious rammers, it seems that the commen thing is a lack of patience, real racing requires you to wait for an opportunity to overtake, to study the car in front to find a weak point, unfortunately with the shorter races, many feel they just do not have time to do this and must take every and any opportunity, no matter how low the chances of pulling it off are...

Those saying public lobbies do not work, are going to be poison for the game, just because you have a few bad experiences in these types of lobbies it does not make them bad, I have had quite a few good clean races with people in public lobbies, but I am finding more and more than people are using private lobbies, which just sucks, I want to find and meet new racers, how can I do that if everyone just uses private lobbies...

BIGGEST thing I have found and the best tip I can give, work out the key times, that a school child will have left school and be at home playing, the first hour is always the worse!

RTA nOsKiLlS
04-06-2015, 14:18
Here is a vid showing some people's excellent parking ability

https://youtu.be/muiji9TWOvA

Charger
05-06-2015, 12:13
Here is a vid showing some people's excellent parking ability

https://youtu.be/muiji9TWOvA

You know when I commented on this thread I actually thought about you and here you pop up, uncanny!

hostaman
05-06-2015, 18:30
There's a similar great "feature" with reversing.

The Azure circuit destruction derby brings this up all the time.


Get rammed into the wall at the first chicane by troll
Try to reverse out from the wall
Get rammed again by rookie back marker
Get DQ'ed for hitting another car


Awesome. :mad:

JeyD02
06-06-2015, 04:48
There's a similar great "feature" with reversing.

The Azure circuit destruction derby brings this up all the time.


Get rammed into the wall at the first chicane by troll
Try to reverse out from the wall
Get rammed again by rookie back marker
Get DQ'ed for hitting another car


Awesome. :mad:

It's better if you reset the car or go back to track.

danpinho
06-06-2015, 06:04
This game is really good and that's why ppl get rammed. It mimics what we see IRL: Create a pass opportunity is very hard.
With 5 lap races (most common online), most drivers will not wait for mistakes, instead they will "create" an opportunity with bump, hit or whatever else come up.
Thats why I love organized long races with assists off. Well, try to put your car inside and go aggresively brake without ABS…

Dam351
06-06-2015, 17:05
Imo the current penalty system does nothing to prevent dangerous driving styles.
Heres an example. The two leading cars crash and go off track. Usually a respectful driver will wait until it's safe to re enter. But current penalties encourage drivers to get into the path of oncoming traffic, because corner cut penalties and or they can instigate being rammed from behind by a car legitimately racing along, with that legitimate driver the one who is penalised. Hard to avoid morons who leap in front of a car doing 200km. But they're not always morons, because of the ridiculous corner cut penalties, the might have preferred to re enter the track safely but if its after the next corner they will be penalised 9 times out of 10. Maybe the momentum from the crash that takes them off track originally is directing their car to either a corner cut penalty or right into the next group of racers. With blanket corner cutting, even if they take much longer than the track route, players seem to dive in front.

Dam351
06-06-2015, 22:15
https://youtu.be/fWkRREwnC4w


This video hopefully explains the points I tried to make above. Several incidents starting at 30sec into clip. At 1.40 I did what described in previous post. I wasn't the neatest driving that race and I think it opened my eyes more to why they continue with demolition derby style racing. Fwiw Its usually me on the other end. 1st thing to know is I don't ever start a race with intentions to punt others. 2nd thing is I've played a few online racing games and they all attract lazy racers

The sloppyness by me here is because several things. Last race for me that day at 5am, i wasnt planning to use maclarry and the host changed setup from 5min qualifications to no qualifications. Also the track was brno when i joined, then changed to Spa so I setup audi, and he'd changed again to this track with only mac gt3 cars. This caused or added to drama imo.

When ive been deliberately rammed previously in F1 or more commonly gta I'd first response was/is "oops u accidentally hit me" as I catch up and see if they really did have a loss of control or was it deliberate. So the next hit usually follows as this seems their only hope of winning. I might say "wow was that lag, u accidentally got me again. Fair enough but u wont like what happens if u punt me again" By this stage I'm almost certain that they try again and when they do, I turn them, stopping right behind them. As soon as their driving I spin them again and stop. "Yeah this IS fun" I don't drive off, I continue until the end, usually they rage quit when they realize I'm not attempting to race anymore. I'm returning the shenanigans they brought to the race. Probably 70% rage quit. 20% race again and try exactly the same thing they did previous &10% race me again cleanly. Some apologise which I totally understand, they've had ppl ramming them every race they've been in.

gpk99
07-06-2015, 15:02
I'd blame you as well....wrecking someone on Purpose then coming back on track back into traffic,you got just what you deserved...use your noggin next time before you accuse others when you're t he main cause of it all

Ghost_rider
07-06-2015, 16:03
https://youtu.be/fWkRREwnC4w


This video hopefully explains the points I tried to make above. Several incidents starting at 30sec into clip. At 1.40 I did what described in previous post. I wasn't the neatest driving that race and I think it opened my eyes more to why they continue with demolition derby style racing. Fwiw Its usually me on the other end. 1st thing to know is I don't ever start a race with intentions to punt others. 2nd thing is I've played a few online racing games and they all attract lazy racers

The sloppyness by me here is because several things. Last race for me that day at 5am, i wasnt planning to use maclarry and the host changed setup from 5min qualifications to no qualifications. Also the track was brno when i joined, then changed to Spa so I setup audi, and he'd changed again to this track with only mac gt3 cars. This caused or added to drama imo.

When ive been deliberately rammed previously in F1 or more commonly gta I'd first response was/is "oops u accidentally hit me" as I catch up and see if they really did have a loss of control or was it deliberate. So the next hit usually follows as this seems their only hope of winning. I might say "wow was that lag, u accidentally got me again. Fair enough but u wont like what happens if u punt me again" By this stage I'm almost certain that they try again and when they do, I turn them, stopping right behind them. As soon as their driving I spin them again and stop. "Yeah this IS fun" I don't drive off, I continue until the end, usually they rage quit when they realize I'm not attempting to race anymore. I'm returning the shenanigans they brought to the race. Probably 70% rage quit. 20% race again and try exactly the same thing they did previous &10% race me again cleanly. Some apologise which I totally understand, they've had ppl ramming them every race they've been in.


I'd blame you as well....wrecking someone on Purpose then coming back on track back into traffic,you got just what you deserved...use your noggin next time before you accuse others when you're t he main cause of it all

^^ Well said...
Your a hypocrite by saying "morons" at #74 and say sorry in your youtube video but no excuses, first if you blame others then be the one without failures and second you should turned more or wait instead bumping to your front car. This kind of actions made this game worse same as the morons actions in the first corner and followed. Action is reaction also here, bumping by purpose or not be patience made other blood pressure high and that itself gives a reaction and the game match is lost again.
Thats why i hate this game in multiplayer well not the game itself but the lack of punishment and more the lack of social habits and such and you sir you tick the box as well.

RobMUFC1987
08-06-2015, 09:39
I find it funny that he says if you've ever braked late and missed the corner, you're automatically a noob and know nothing of racing. I'd like to see him post a video of him going through turn 1 at Monza 100 times to see how many times he gets it right

obiski123
08-06-2015, 19:41
I am afraid you do not understand ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MOTORSPORT.

this accident for normal to you why you are a NOOB, or you also practice this rammig Tactical.

So let me teach you ... if you want to brake late and hit a curve, then you take another line of the track, because the law of physics, said by ISAAC NEWTON says that two bodies do not take SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME .. .

you went to school? I think not, and attended, did not pay attention in class.

So to say that only I can avoid hitting behind? I do not think ... I think if you have some potential critical view, you will see that in any race that goes on TV pilots practice the same tactics I'm speaking here for you.

I laughed at this too much... Maybe due to the lack of education in his English, and how hypocritical he is.

obiski123
08-06-2015, 19:44
https://youtu.be/fWkRREwnC4w


This video hopefully explains the points I tried to make above. Several incidents starting at 30sec into clip. At 1.40 I did what described in previous post. I wasn't the neatest driving that race and I think it opened my eyes more to why they continue with demolition derby style racing. Fwiw Its usually me on the other end. 1st thing to know is I don't ever start a race with intentions to punt others. 2nd thing is I've played a few online racing games and they all attract lazy racers

The sloppyness by me here is because several things. Last race for me that day at 5am, i wasnt planning to use maclarry and the host changed setup from 5min qualifications to no qualifications. Also the track was brno when i joined, then changed to Spa so I setup audi, and he'd changed again to this track with only mac gt3 cars. This caused or added to drama imo.

When ive been deliberately rammed previously in F1 or more commonly gta I'd first response was/is "oops u accidentally hit me" as I catch up and see if they really did have a loss of control or was it deliberate. So the next hit usually follows as this seems their only hope of winning. I might say "wow was that lag, u accidentally got me again. Fair enough but u wont like what happens if u punt me again" By this stage I'm almost certain that they try again and when they do, I turn them, stopping right behind them. As soon as their driving I spin them again and stop. "Yeah this IS fun" I don't drive off, I continue until the end, usually they rage quit when they realize I'm not attempting to race anymore. I'm returning the shenanigans they brought to the race. Probably 70% rage quit. 20% race again and try exactly the same thing they did previous &10% race me again cleanly. Some apologise which I totally understand, they've had ppl ramming them every race they've been in.

"You accidentally hit me, I'm going to spend the rest of the race intentionally trying to ruin yours" Who are you to threaten "but u wont like what happens if u punt me again"

GT_Racing
08-06-2015, 20:43
https://youtu.be/fWkRREwnC4w


This video hopefully explains the points I tried to make above. Several incidents starting at 30sec into clip. At 1.40 I did what described in previous post. I wasn't the neatest driving that race and I think it opened my eyes more to why they continue with demolition derby style racing. Fwiw Its usually me on the other end. 1st thing to know is I don't ever start a race with intentions to punt others. 2nd thing is I've played a few online racing games and they all attract lazy racers

The sloppyness by me here is because several things. Last race for me that day at 5am, i wasnt planning to use maclarry and the host changed setup from 5min qualifications to no qualifications. Also the track was brno when i joined, then changed to Spa so I setup audi, and he'd changed again to this track with only mac gt3 cars. This caused or added to drama imo.

When ive been deliberately rammed previously in F1 or more commonly gta I'd first response was/is "oops u accidentally hit me" as I catch up and see if they really did have a loss of control or was it deliberate. So the next hit usually follows as this seems their only hope of winning. I might say "wow was that lag, u accidentally got me again. Fair enough but u wont like what happens if u punt me again" By this stage I'm almost certain that they try again and when they do, I turn them, stopping right behind them. As soon as their driving I spin them again and stop. "Yeah this IS fun" I don't drive off, I continue until the end, usually they rage quit when they realize I'm not attempting to race anymore. I'm returning the shenanigans they brought to the race. Probably 70% rage quit. 20% race again and try exactly the same thing they did previous &10% race me again cleanly. Some apologise which I totally understand, they've had ppl ramming them every race they've been in.

Dude that was horrible on your end too. I would post a better, less self-incriminating video next time. You were at the back of the pack and still couldnt manage to get around the guy in front of you on the start. You missed almost every braking point and cut the track everywhere (ironically while using the driving line). You call other drivers lazy and post this nonsense. Come on.

Panopticism
08-06-2015, 21:06
The video in the first post of this thread is hilarious. God forbid you should ever race a car on a track at even an intermediate level, because it is so much more aggressive in EVERY CORNER than that tap that the guy had to make after going too deep in the corner. You CAN also take certain precautions yourself, as the leader, going into the corners on the last lap(s) of a race. You had to know that he was going to try to come in hot and steal the inside line. You could therefore have let him miss the apex and then driven underneath him. This will work more than 50% of the time. Don't be afraid to concede a position--however temporarily--in order to minimize risk. If you open the door for them, they will usually overshoot even further; trust me.

That being said, there are some issues with online boneheads. I think it could be solved with red flags or full course cautions, automatic DNFs to cars that are stationary for x-number of seconds. The yellow flags and slow car warnings are good, but when there's a slow car actually obstructing the track we should at least be given a full course caution until the obstruction is removed.

Not much you can do about first corner pileups and their full-throttle instigators except wait until July or August when they've grown tired. It usually takes a few months for a new racing game to settle down, for the kids to lose interest in causing grief, and for the frequent racers to emerge from the waist-deep bullshhhhh.

h3lld3r
09-06-2015, 11:50
so just watch this:

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/PACIENTE%20DO%20SUS/video/3219852

I waited for three laps to overtake him ... thankfully I'm jaded of noobs who accidentally hit in braking zones.

Dam351
09-06-2015, 12:21
Dude that was horrible on your end too. I would post a better, less self-incriminating video next time. You were at the back of the pack and still couldnt manage to get around the guy in front of you on the start. You missed almost every braking point and cut the track everywhere (ironically while using the driving line). You call other drivers lazy and post this nonsense. Come on.

I never said I drove brilliantly blah blah, I said the penaty system wasn't fair to all drivers. I hit the car in front on the grid, and received no time penalty. Then get bumped off and received a time penalty. Other instances show I jumped back onto the track during a time penalty and was better off for doing so, however disrespectful that seemed to the cars behind. OK. If I wanted to win an award for driver of the year, I wouldn't have posted the complete would I now Mr GT Driver. I have plenty of video with GT drivers hitting myself or others. And as for the driving line, was the track in the video a current F1 track? Was it local to Australia? No. Well I don't use the line on tracks I know. Simply put it would be off and I'd only join the lobbies I know the tracks on...BUT then I'm stuck learning a new circuit when the host changes it at last moments before it's locked. Can I easily turn that option on/off then until the race? No I cannot, so I leave the line on and have done since someone hosted a track I knew in open wheelers in pitch black darkness. I only turn it off now if a friend is hosting.
Summing up I'd enjoy you to now post a clip (full race) showing drivers penalised for not staying on track and drivers not penalised for blatantly obvious errors. I'd like to see a perfectionist hit every apex at optimum speeds and not making a single mistake, because apparently that's how you drive 100% of the time.

Dam351
09-06-2015, 12:31
Know that video shows me driving recklessly and not being punished, then when others are reckless I'm punished. That is the point of it. It wasnt posted to show how great I was that race. Are you all happy with the current penalties system?

Dam351
09-06-2015, 12:34
"You accidentally hit me, I'm going to spend the rest of the race intentionally trying to ruin yours" Who are you to threaten "but u wont like what happens if u punt me again"

Haha mate when you've hit me 3x when there's plenty of other room on track, you can know for a fact I will play your game. And who are you to question that fact? Are u a punter that wants to continually with no consequences?

Dam351
09-06-2015, 12:41
I'd blame you as well....wrecking someone on Purpose then coming back on track back into traffic,you got just what you deserved...use your noggin next time before you accuse others when you're t he main cause of it all

Did I get what I deserved? Really, because I ended up several seconds ahead of the innocent drivers behind me. Do you think I deserved an advantage? Thanks but I did not I deserved any advantage for that.

The video was filmed after hours of continually intentional ramming etc, and admittedly not my greatest moment, but is meant to show how the current penalty system does not result in fairness for all drivers.

Bealdor
09-06-2015, 12:46
Dam351 could you please reduce the font size of your signature? It's really distracting from your actual posts. Thanks. :)

obiski123
09-06-2015, 17:09
Haha mate when you've hit me 3x when there's plenty of other room on track, you can know for a fact I will play your game. And who are you to question that fact? Are u a punter that wants to continually with no consequences?

What if you are playing someone who is learning the track? Do you expect them to instantaneously know all of the braking zones? I'd certainly need more than 3 attempts to get it right. Does that mean they deserve being knocked about like you would do to them?!

kaa0s
10-06-2015, 18:16
I call this the "Be a better man" :D Long story short, sometimes the guys who are relatively fast can be winhungry too.. I was just so disappointed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmhNd3KelaA

chart_e
10-06-2015, 19:57
due to the lack of fair racers and a kick/ban button, I quit racing in online mode, exept for privates games with my friend.

phant0m
10-06-2015, 20:22
I'll just leave this here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWGho-rEWms

Dam351
11-06-2015, 10:26
What if you are playing someone who is learning the track? Do you expect them to instantaneously know all of the braking zones? I'd certainly need more than 3 attempts to get it right. Does that mean they deserve being knocked about like you would do to them?!

Well it's obvious if someone is learning a track as opposed to performing manoeuvres which are only made to leave 1 car in a wall and another driving off by themselves.

See the thing most of my friends I race know is I don't care for wins. I'm not going to care at all who has more/less, and I don't equate wins to being a better driver.

If I'm racing and as happens most of the lobby goes awol, I'll more often wait for the remaining cars so we can race. Its the journey that I enjoy not the destination.

So that being said, if I did notice a rookie having troubles or banging into players, I'd offer advice, and have done so many times. You would not need to crash into me 3x because if genuine id help them before that many. (ik the difference, 'you accidentally lag crashed me' means i saw you lining me up) Anyway they don't have to accept it, some don't. But some do and it can be amazing how much fun is had racing guys, who'd easily have become frustrated and probably joined the dark side, because of some random tips.

So pick this apart however you like, I don't mind tbh, I know many clean and respected racers who are happy to race me. Which means something to me because I know a lot who won't just race anybody, especially random lobby rammers.

MrStef85
11-06-2015, 12:16
I'll just leave this here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWGho-rEWms

That was hillarious! ;)

NWT_eNigma
15-06-2015, 18:59
So I went into a GT3 lobby online at Silverstone. Qualified in second. After a good start me and 2 others broke away.

I made the cleanest and most professional pass of my racing career in the second lap to take the lead (went past a certain ELYO18, I'll commend him on his clean racing).
Stayed in first all the way through the race. With 2nd and 3rd duelling for position I established a solid 4 second lead.

All the way through the race a driver (who hadn't started) had been sat on the grid, not moving, not doing anything. I come flying around the corner to start my 7th and final lap.... and said player (xSmokWeed--) takes me out! He wasn't involved, he wasn't even present. It is idiots like this that need removing from the game.

My issue is that this guy should have been kicked long ago. If he hasn't moved for 6 LAPS that means he has been sat still for 10-12 minutes. WHY IS HE NOT BEING REMOVED?!!!!! WHY IS HE STILL THERE!!!

Bang out of order!!!! Needs fixing this.

Umer Ahmad
15-06-2015, 19:05
(merged)

Ian mentioned the team is working on "ghosting" these kinds of guys in an upcoming patch.

Sorry mate, that sucks to hear.

AdM1
16-06-2015, 05:13
I'll just leave this here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWGho-rEWms

HAHAHA!

Shouldn't laugh, but I thought there was a timer when you drive the wrong way that resets the car? I've never let it time out but if I go the wrong way it starts counting on the screen.

momotaone
16-06-2015, 09:09
HAHAHA!

Shouldn't laugh, but I thought there was a timer when you drive the wrong way that resets the car? I've never let it time out but if I go the wrong way it starts counting on the screen.

Does not work... you just need to turn about 180 and the timer resets... so a troll has enough possibility to at least get 1 or 2 other racers (as seen in the video)...
And then he will get immediatly disqualified... but at least destroyed the race for 1 or more guys... => too much

MABlosfeld
17-06-2015, 14:51
I'll just leave this here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWGho-rEWms

pcars CARMAGEDON???????????????
pcars is an excellent game, it was developed by the best programmers to be used by professionals who know how to drive a race car.

SpaceGhost1911
17-06-2015, 16:00
Well I will throw in my $.02 that is only worth $.01. Coming from iRacing I can say the safety rating has it's pros and cons. And to note on what someone said earlier about why iRacing focuses so much on the MP aspect, that is because that is the only thing they have. But to alleviate the MP ramming situation, I would suggest implementing a IPR (Incidents Per Race) system. Very similar to the iRacing Safety Rating. 1x for each off track, 2x for a contact with a <5mph differential in speed, 4x with a > than 5mph differential in speed. At the end of you race your X's (Incident points) are totaled and that leaves you with your IPR for that race. Then just average it for all your competed races. Now people setting up lobbies can choose what the Maximum IPR is to be able to join said lobby and also setup a maxinum # of incidents that are allowed before a disqualification. That has worked for years in iRacing. It's not perfect, but it is the best I have seen so far.

And just to give you an idea of averages I am a Class A 4.99 Safety rating (Highest possible in iRacing). This year (only raced 19 road races in 2015) I have a 3.00 IPR. In my 3 years of Road Racing on iRacing I have a 4.63 IPR. Not fantastic or anything, but just giving you an idea that even the safest of drivers will have incidents, so you can't get carried away with setting the IPR on your lobby so low that no one will be able to join.

ccvampyre
17-06-2015, 16:21
sounds great. hopefully these kind of stats will be reset if any kind of rating system is patched in, as atm quitting or leaving the track is no fault of our own..

MABlosfeld
17-06-2015, 16:49
Well I will throw in my $.02 that is only worth $.01. Coming from iRacing I can say the safety rating has it's pros and cons. And to note on what someone said earlier about why iRacing focuses so much on the MP aspect, that is because that is the only thing they have. But to alleviate the MP ramming situation, I would suggest implementing a IPR (Incidents Per Race) system. Very similar to the iRacing Safety Rating. 1x for each off track, 2x for a contact with a <5mph differential in speed, 4x with a > than 5mph differential in speed. At the end of you race your X's (Incident points) are totaled and that leaves you with your IPR for that race. Then just average it for all your competed races. Now people setting up lobbies can choose what the Maximum IPR is to be able to join said lobby and also setup a maxinum # of incidents that are allowed before a disqualification. That has worked for years in iRacing. It's not perfect, but it is the best I have seen so far.

And just to give you an idea of averages I am a Class A 4.99 Safety rating (Highest possible in iRacing). This year (only raced 19 road races in 2015) I have a 3.00 IPR. In my 3 years of Road Racing on iRacing I have a 4.63 IPR. Not fantastic or anything, but just giving you an idea that even the safest of drivers will have incidents, so you can't get carried away with setting the IPR on your lobby so low that no one will be able to join.


iRacing has the best MP because it has a system of punishments that works. pCars should be sold in two versions:

SIMULATOR = all predefined assists for REAL, only the cockpit view, to drive the car only with a complete wheel with 3 pedals (brake, accelerator, clutch), gait exchange (lever and butterfly). What can be used (exchange, clutch, gear changer) is defined by the chosen car. The only thing that can change is the FINE TUNING of cars.

ARCADE = here you can play your way, wheel, keyboard, control, with the hood vision, with assists ON and even with autopilot.

JamieF86
17-06-2015, 17:01
I've done a topic here, talking about players who stop the car crossed the track in strategically great places to disrupt an entire group of players. Others simply play dirty, especially in the last corners of the last lap. (http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?26501-SERIOUS-Multiplayer)

HERE BELOW is one of my last replay. Look at the mess that was the race in the end I was indiguinado, because I know that the Impunity prevails here PROJECT CARS

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/PACIENTE%20DO%20SUS/video/2857973

obviously I completely lost reason and tried to fight back, but how not to get so angry in the face of such an attitude? all want justice? not? but I do, I want a serious and fair game, want a simulated race, so I bought PROJECT CARS instead of MARIO KART, ok? I had delayed the braking point precisely to prevent it hit me back, but it was not enough, he still hit me, and then started the mess and could not finish the race, a race that I led almost all, fairly and honest.

The Player in the middle of the track clearly and idiot, However so are you, the initial bump was clearly and accident a slight tap what you did after that to completely cut him off the road is out of order and then he rammed you, you were both idiots

Bealdor
17-06-2015, 18:38
iRacing has the best MP because it has a system of punishments that works. pCars should be sold in two versions:

SIMULATOR = all predefined assists for REAL, only the cockpit view, to drive the car only with a complete wheel with 3 pedals (brake, accelerator, clutch), gait exchange (lever and butterfly). What can be used (exchange, clutch, gear changer) is defined by the chosen car. The only thing that can change is the FINE TUNING of cars.

ARCADE = here you can play your way, wheel, keyboard, control, with the hood vision, with assists ON and even with autopilot.

Or how about you put everything in a complete package so everybody can enjoy it the way he/she wants?
That was always the target of the whole project btw.

MABlosfeld
17-06-2015, 20:02
Or how about you put everything in a complete package so everybody can enjoy it the way he/she wants?
That was always the target of the whole project btw.

I know that the main objective is to put everything in one complete package where everyone can enjoy it and this is already done and it's amazing but it is not perfect because not all people know appreciate it properly.

Let's change the word "SELL" to "FILTER" and delete the word VERSION
pCars should be FILTERED the chosen profile PLAYERT AILORING (ARCADE, ACTION, REAL, SEMI-SM, SM), is all.

Let's use the resources available this great game, we played filter according to your profile created in the installation. A good way to organize online races.

My suggestion is so simple that it's stupid, I know.

FalkeGT
18-06-2015, 10:08
...I would suggest implementing a IPR (Incidents Per Race) system. Very similar to the iRacing Safety Rating. 1x for each off track, 2x for a contact with a <5mph differential in speed, 4x with a > than 5mph differential in speed. At the end of you race your X's (Incident points) are totaled and that leaves you with your IPR for that race. Then just average it for all your competed races. Now people setting up lobbies can choose what the Maximum IPR is to be able to join said lobby and also setup a maxinum # of incidents that are allowed before a disqualification. ...

I like that system and would love to see something like that in the game. Cheers falkeGT

RTA nOsKiLlS
18-06-2015, 18:22
https://youtu.be/DafuWZGFnIs?list=PLC6g4mDRZ4s-kwlrkAOkWvfpMDJhltzfw

Im hoping one day, I'll have all of the idiots blocked on xbox live.

MABlosfeld
20-06-2015, 15:15
I've tried to play all forms, with assistance without assistance, using
steering wheel, keyboard, joystick, mouse, power of the mind, autopilot etc etc etc
a friend (pcars moderator) advised: search community (CLAN) and have fun, play in the public lobby is not for respectful players.

Ian Bell
20-06-2015, 15:17
https://youtu.be/DafuWZGFnIs?list=PLC6g4mDRZ4s-kwlrkAOkWvfpMDJhltzfw

Im hoping one day, I'll have all of the idiots blocked on xbox live.

Actually, I'll look into the legalities of blocking from one person to another. That's not a restriction of gameplay as I see it.

I'll check with the lawyers on Monday.

Mods, please remind me.

MABlosfeld
20-06-2015, 15:28
Actually, I'll look into the legalities of blocking from one person to another. That's not a restriction of gameplay as I see it.

I'll check with the lawyers on Monday.

Mods, please remind me.

Let's use the resources available this great game, we played filter according to your profile created in the installation. A good way to organize online races.

Schadows
20-06-2015, 17:36
I call this the "Be a better man" :D Long story short, sometimes the guys who are relatively fast can be winhungry too.. I was just so disappointed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmhNd3KelaAAs I see it, both cars made a mistake. First, the Audi trying to get back on the racing line without any care in the world if any car was there, and then, the McLaren leaving the door open for the Audi to attempt a pass, but the still trying to turn in as usual on the inside although the Audi is there with a late braking but that's usually what to do when trying to squeeze in during barking.


Actually, I'll look into the legalities of blocking from one person to another. That's not a restriction of gameplay as I see it.

I'll check with the lawyers on Monday.

Mods, please remind me.Yes, let them play against themselves.

RTA nOsKiLlS
20-06-2015, 18:23
Actually, I'll look into the legalities of blocking from one person to another. That's not a restriction of gameplay as I see it.

I'll check with the lawyers on Monday.

Mods, please remind me.

It maybe me being stupid/daft, but I don't know if your serious or not.

Here is how blocking works according to MS : http://support.xbox.com/en-GB/xbox-one/system/how-to-block-player
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-08-01-xbox-ones-new-reputation-system-has-been-detailed

As far I can tell, If you dont get on with a person, you can block them. That blocks communication and matchmaking. On the Xbox 360, it only blocked communications.
It seems to work so far, as I've not encountered any player from Grid Autosport that I have blocked. (Its quite a long list :D )

Ive already had lots a great races on this game, and the more I play the better I get, and the better the racing gets. Being able to block the "lunatic fringe :D" really helps keep the lobby chaos to a minimum, as always though, new contenders appear, but a block and a few votes to kick and the problem is solved.

Ian Bell
20-06-2015, 18:34
It maybe me being stupid/daft, but I don't know if your serious or not.

Here is how blocking works according to MS : http://support.xbox.com/en-GB/xbox-one/system/how-to-block-player
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-08-01-xbox-ones-new-reputation-system-has-been-detailed

As far I can tell, If you dont get on with a person, you can block them. That blocks communication and matchmaking. On the Xbox 360, it only blocked communications.
It seems to work so far, as I've not encountered any player from Grid Autosport that I have blocked. (Its quite a long list :D )

Ive already had lots a great races on this game, and the more I play the better I get, and the better the racing gets. Being able to block the "lunatic fringe :D" really helps keep the lobby chaos to a minimum, as always though, new contenders appear, but a block and a few votes to kick and the problem is solved.

Not stupid at all.

Basically we can't legally block someone from attending a lobby if they're not blocked from the parent system (ie Xbox Live).

I think though that we can allow individuals to block others from joining their lobby.

Charger
20-06-2015, 18:54
Can this be done on PC, sick of the same blatant rammers coming on, we have some great races spoilt only by a few tools, they ram then leave halfway through the race when everyone has eventually passed them but they come back later on to cause havoc.

Edit, I wonder if I added them as a friend on Steam and they accepted and then used the 'block all communication' would that stop them being able to join my lobby?

Ian Bell
20-06-2015, 18:56
Can this be done on PC, sick of the same blatant rammers coming on, we have some great races spoilt only by a few tools, they ram then leave halfway through the race when everyone has eventually passed them but they come back later on to cause havoc.

Again, not unless they're blocked by Steam.

We will though allow the host to block/kick. I think it's legal. I'll conform on Monday then get the guys on it.

Charger
20-06-2015, 19:02
Ah the host block/kick option would be great as we sometimes don't have enough votes to kick someone, I always host our games so it would be a great help, not that I am not lenient, the occasional crash is expected but some people do it for fun, the amount of times our lads are screaming 'kick them' but I can't is getting out of hand lol.

Seriously love this game, I think I may have a bit of an addiction ;)

MULTIVITZ
20-06-2015, 19:51
The lead driver backed off to position his line into the right hander because the other driver was on the race line. One manuvour to get on line was done in good time, the white car decided to take advantage and blast it up the inside and got his nose cut off. The guy in the orange car should have anticipated the other guy and stalled his turn in.
The white car had superior turn in and could have made the move. His momentum was greater than the orange one to. The orange car was not in the wrong, but needs to judge his mirrors better or check the blind spot somehow(easy if we had surround sound!). The white car wanted to get past and get out the way, but his contact earlier made him look over eager and agressive, the orange car driver just reflected the aggression then waited for the other driver, which is always good manners in uncrowded races.
Making decisions is hard in the heat of the battle, getting upset only makes things worse for both parties. Going full bore into a race and driving faultless is the general idea, avoiding contact is helped greatly by maturity, it's learned by doing. Lucky it's a simulation!


Personally I would have cut his nose off and run, if he caught me up and was all over my rear I would let him pass at a convenient spot. If I was the driver of the white car, I would practice not going off, maybe tweak something in the setup?

After being kicked out of a lobby in Forza it was impossible to rejoin it until the game had been restarted or you were invited back in.

RTA nOsKiLlS
20-06-2015, 21:03
Not stupid at all.

Basically we can't legally block someone from attending a lobby if they're not blocked from the parent system (ie Xbox Live).

I think though that we can allow individuals to block others from joining their lobby.


I was once blocked from Forza 4 multiplayer for 1 week, due to a rather colourful expression down the sides of my car. But I wasn't blocked from Xbox live. I dont think you as a studio need to get involved with blocking troublesome people from accessing the online lobbies, I could imagine that could get rather messy, and time consuming, but I dont know anything about what a studio can do with regards to people playing dirty etc.

The best thing in my opinion is to just allow the host of the lobby, to kick someone out, with needing a majority vote. Many other games have this option in their custom lobbies, but then they usually have an online playlist section where there is no host, and a majority vote is needed. Maybe best to implement it at the same time as the magic is delivered to the multiplayer. :)

My friend and I had started a lobby yesterday,(im banned from hosting, as it keeps raining when im host for some weird reason :D ) 3 of us did Bathurst qualy for 30 mins, near the end we were joined by 5 or 6 other players, we thought great, more people. Then we got to the first turn, then we got to the wall. It was a terrible group, we didnt try and vote, we just left and blocked all but 1 person (BIG DOM GTI) and made a new lobby.

The host was kinda disappointed as they wanted the satisfaction of kicking the 1 mile drag racers.

Charger
20-06-2015, 23:44
RTA, why do you not have it for PC, I miss you on Autosport, although I haven't played it since this lol, man up and join the master race!!

RTA nOsKiLlS
21-06-2015, 02:11
RTA, why do you not have it for PC, I miss you on Autosport, although I haven't played it since this lol, man up and join the master race!!

LOL, my laptop is not capable of playing this. It could play Autosport on low settings at 120fps, or 60ish at medium. I think it would just BSOD if it attempted to run this.

Schadows
21-06-2015, 14:29
I was once blocked from Forza 4 multiplayer for 1 week, due to a rather colourful expression down the sides of my car. But I wasn't blocked from Xbox live. I dont think you as a studio need to get involved with blocking troublesome people from accessing the online lobbies, I could imagine that could get rather messy, and time consuming, but I dont know anything about what a studio can do with regards to people playing dirty etc.The idea here is to prevent people from playing together, by preventing them to join lobby where the blocked players are. Not to prevent people from playing online at all.

With a ranking system, and a limit set by a the host, you can achieve clean races, but it is always tricky to get a flawless ranking system (somes cases needs in-depth investigation ... like IRL).

It is always hard for the host to decided especially when he didn't saw what when wrong and when the vote didn't get the majority.

mister dog
24-06-2015, 07:26
Is there any word on the online reputation feature that PCARS was advertised with, is it still in the pipeline and how long will it take for it to be implemented?

Apart from people being able to block unwanted individuals from their lobbies, the above feature going live will help a huge deal for online players.

cogent
24-06-2015, 10:30
How about a (for example) 110% rule? Admin should be able to set this up and keep "bad guys" out of the race.
Or use Dedicated Server with Black List for serious racing sessions.
If you use Dedicated Server you can also kick persons out of the Session.