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ManOfNantucket
19-06-2015, 00:18
Is it possible to revert my Project Cars installation back to version 1.3?

Prior to 1.3 I couldn't play the game at all due to the control issues, post 1.3 I have been enjoying it so much that I couldn't put it down. Now with patch 1.4 I again don't enjoy it. All sense of speed disappeared and now I get this disorienting surges. The game lags for a few moments and then bursts forward a few moments, back and forth, over and over.

Anyway, my intent is not to come here and complain. I just want to know if it is possible for me to revert my copy to 1.3?

Im Sorry
19-06-2015, 00:38
Is it possible to revert my Project Cars installation back to version 1.3?

Prior to 1.3 I couldn't play the game at all due to the control issues, post 1.3 I have been enjoying it so much that I couldn't put it down. Now with patch 1.4 I again don't enjoy it. All sense of speed disappeared and now I get this disorienting surges. The game lags for a few moments and then bursts forward a few moments, back and forth, over and over.

Anyway, my intent is not to come here and complain. I just want to know if it is possible for me to revert my copy to 1.3?

Nope.Your stuck with it until the next patch!

ManOfNantucket
19-06-2015, 00:40
I logged over 100 great racing hours with version 1.3. However I don't think I will be logging anymore till something changes.

Im Sorry
19-06-2015, 00:45
I've had the warping happen to me a bit as well.patch has fixed some things but seems to have given a few more too!

stux
19-06-2015, 05:09
Can't revert to previous versions on Xbox One

Pcars Driver 44
19-06-2015, 05:12
Hi' All yea I've got to say the same unfortunately! Before 1.3 update unplayable get 1.3 update Brilliant loved it. Get 1.4 update not good, I'm between 1or2 seconds off my times I've set! For me my controller is over sensitive again. Love the game and want to stick with it just hope we can get some continuity with the controller sorted! Here's hoping :(

kc76
19-06-2015, 07:12
Is it possible to revert my Project Cars installation back to version 1.3?

Prior to 1.3 I couldn't play the game at all due to the control issues, post 1.3 I have been enjoying it so much that I couldn't put it down. Now with patch 1.4 I again don't enjoy it. All sense of speed disappeared and now I get this disorienting surges. The game lags for a few moments and then bursts forward a few moments, back and forth, over and over.

Anyway, my intent is not to come here and complain. I just want to know if it is possible for me to revert my copy to 1.3?

Now mine is opposite. It used to slow then surge on 1.3, now its much more consistent ! Weird how we are all getting a differing experience !

jonm01
19-06-2015, 07:20
Same for me. Slowing/surging and much more sensitive controls. GT cars used to be easy to drive and are now feeling light and twitchy. Real shame.

chris4652009
19-06-2015, 07:22
I think a lot of people would like to revert to prior release of this game before they spent there money. I don't think you can bud .


That's two threads I've noticed you trolling on...I wonder if the mods interesting in removing you?

tux1234
19-06-2015, 11:39
I wish man, with the original release i had very few problems, even less with 1.3 but now with 1.4 i seem to have FPS drops, poor track quality, AI cars that seem to have no spacial awareness, AI cars that as soon as they hit the kerbs they jump onto 2 wheels, the game seems to randomly start you on wet tyres in races now. Its all very frustrating as i really enjoy the game.

skijumptoes
19-06-2015, 11:51
Have you restarted your console since installing? I mean a proper restart (settings/power/restart), or hold your power button on the console down for 10 seconds etc.

I had some issues with 1.4 before doing that, afterwards was smooth and nice.

TrevorAustin
19-06-2015, 12:35
I think a lot of people would like to revert to prior release of this game before they spent there money. I don't think you can bud .

Have you ever posted anything thst wasn't a snidey comment?

Stag
19-06-2015, 12:46
If you can't tune a Diddley bow Procars isn't for you.
If I was making a sim racer I wouldn't even bother making it able to be used by controllers
It's not very sim and the extra time and money available would probably make this great racer even better and most of the wreckers and clockers are the controllers. So us wheelers win all ways
Mr Bell that's my idea if used on proc 2 I want 1 % lol

EMW Grogan
19-06-2015, 12:53
If you can't tune a Diddley bow Procars isn't for you.
If I was making a sim racer I wouldn't even bother making it able to be used by controllers
It's not very sim and the extra time and money available would probably make this great racer even better and most of the wreckers and clockers are the controllers. So us wheelers win all ways
Mr Bell that's my idea if used on proc 2 I want 1 % lol

Words fail me....dont know where to start with that, maybe its a good job your not in charge of anything....at all....ever.

Sonic6L
19-06-2015, 12:54
If I was making a sim racer I wouldn't even bother making it able to be used by controllers

You'll lose a MASSIVE sales bracket...

If SMS/WMD Announced PCars and then said BUT WAIT IT CAN ONLY WORK WITH A STEERING WHEEL, I would have said f**k that, not bought it or recommended it.

wraithsrike
19-06-2015, 12:57
If you can't tune a Diddley bow Procars isn't for you.
If I was making a sim racer I wouldn't even bother making it able to be used by controllers
It's not very sim and the extra time and money available would probably make this great racer even better and most of the wreckers and clockers are the controllers. So us wheelers win all ways
Mr Bell that's my idea if used on proc 2 I want 1 % lol

And your company would be bankrupt shortly after your game realised.

Plato99
19-06-2015, 13:12
Same for me. Slowing/surging and much more sensitive controls. GT cars used to be easy to drive and are now feeling light and twitchy. Real shame.

Same here. Bentley Continental GT feels like its on marbles / ice.

Quickly losing faith.

FA RACING 01
19-06-2015, 13:18
Same here. Bentley Continental GT feels like its on marbles / ice.

Quickly losing faith.

Can we help mate, or are you just passing by ?

nwrlchargerl
19-06-2015, 13:19
Gonna be a bit of time before it gets sorted but once it's fully fixed it will be ideal, can understand why people are pissed, I'm focusing mainly on other games before it's fully patched. Might be a good idea to work on time trials and focus on getting faster in the meantime

jonm01
19-06-2015, 13:24
Can anyone explain what exactly was changed for this patch? Why has the car handling been altered again?

skijumptoes
19-06-2015, 13:38
If I was making a sim racer I wouldn't even bother making it able to be used by controllers

I'd love to see this sim racer that you make, i bet it'd be awesome aimed towards such a 'pro' crowd!

Sankyo
19-06-2015, 13:43
Same here. Bentley Continental GT feels like its on marbles / ice.

Quickly losing faith.

Without any further clarification or repro steps, this isn't really helping anything. It will not even be noticed as a possible problem as it may just as well be you who's doing something wrong.

tux1234
19-06-2015, 13:46
Can anyone explain what exactly was changed for this patch? Why has the car handling been altered again?

Doesn't seem it has been. https://www.gtplanet.net/project-cars-v1-4-patch-to-focus-on-bug-fixes-ffb-improvements/

The Bentley is a hard car to drive on the limits.

PaulxB
19-06-2015, 13:50
The Bentley GT3 was already tail happy before the 1.4 patch.
That is just how the car is. You can't push it as hard as the other GT cars

beetes_juice
19-06-2015, 13:55
There are a few cars on the patch notes that were improved but besides that nothing was changed. If you guys are on the wheel its going to take a few more laps to get used to the new FFB

jonm01
19-06-2015, 14:27
I'm talking about all the GT3 cars. All seemed very easy to drive before. Even before the controller patch update. Now they feel lighter and twitchy.

Ixoye56
19-06-2015, 15:01
With a wheel there is no difference with 1.4, all cars are easy to drive.

nwrlchargerl
19-06-2015, 15:06
I think a control pad is quicker than a wheel, but it's hard to determine with all the corner cutting and stuff going on, I also can't feel any difference in handling with any of the cars, the handling is great how it is with most.

Raeang
19-06-2015, 15:13
Is there a way to verify that the patch is installed on PS4? I downloaded an update file not long ago but I am not sure if this was the patch. I know...noobie question from a noob:D

Sonic6L
19-06-2015, 15:48
Can anyone explain what exactly was changed for this patch? Why has the car handling been altered again?

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?31710-XBox-One-Patch-1-4-Release-Notes

skijumptoes
19-06-2015, 15:57
Is there a way to verify that the patch is installed on PS4? I downloaded an update file not long ago but I am not sure if this was the patch. I know...noobie question from a noob:D

Try PS4 section of forum?

OpticalHercules
19-06-2015, 16:26
I'm talking about all the GT3 cars. All seemed very easy to drive before. Even before the controller patch update. Now they feel lighter and twitchy.

If it's all the cars, then perhaps the problem is either in your inputs or in your configurations. Give throttle sensitivity a tweak, try some speed sensitivity and controller input filtering. I personally was never a fan of any of the GT class cars, at all, I love LMP's. Last night decided to plop down after making the configuration adjustments mentioned in another thread and try my GT4 career again. Had a blast on what was previously a car that made me quit that profile in frustration 2-3 weeks ago.

little fella
19-06-2015, 16:47
Ian Bell must feel like banging his head against a brick wall reading this thread!!!!!

tux1234
19-06-2015, 16:49
Ian Bell must feel like banging his head against a brick wall reading this thread!!!!!

I doubt it, no one here is saying the game is awful or unplayable, just that some of us preferred the game on the previous patch. Ive been playing with 1.4 today and still enjoy it.

little fella
19-06-2015, 16:57
I can only see improvements in the latest patch over 1.3
Not played it too much though been really busy at moment with work so maybe there is some truth here.

Ian Bell
19-06-2015, 17:04
No head banging. It's just ongoing proof that you can't please them all. We've learned that over the years :)

Stag
19-06-2015, 17:07
Words fail me....dont know where to start with that, maybe its a good job your not in charge of anything....at all....ever.

Lol. You might be surprised at what I could be in charge of.
I would sell the wheels etc., but give the game away. A few dlcs and bang that's it I'm as rich as belly.
5%

Haiden
19-06-2015, 17:31
Lol. You might be surprised at what I could be in charge of.
I would sell the wheels etc., but give the game away. A few dlcs and bang that's it I'm as rich as belly.
5%

Yeah...that's gonna work, because there's definitely more people willing to shell out a few hundred for a wheel, than there are willing to spend $60 on a game. Yeah...You know what? You should Kickstart, Genius.

Plato99
19-06-2015, 17:43
I'm talking about all the GT3 cars. All seemed very easy to drive before. Even before the controller patch update. Now they feel lighter and twitchy.

Thank you. I'm not going mad.
Lots of improvements in 1.4 but some of the cars I'd gotten used to driving just feel twitchy and arse-happy since the update!

bluesky0870
19-06-2015, 19:15
With patch 1.4 the controller steering went worse than post 1.3. At steering mode
3 road cars behave like vessels and their turning ability is that of a fully loaded mega freighter. karts, GT and LMP cars are easy to drive.
2 no kind of car is giving a 100% response or behaves comfortable
1 road cars are drivable but gt cars and lmp cars are twitchy and steer "awkward"

In mode 1 it even seems that the steer lock problem returned, yesterday and right before posting here my lmp1 car at Road America as well as the historical Escort at Oulton and some other cars on different tracks turned into the opposite direction without any reason.

The AI ( I would like to call it Artificial Idiots)
- in rain still is way too fast and without any mistake, still goes on without the need of a pit stop due to changing weather conditions.
- still behaves like I am invisible (due to the worse controller steering it is shooting me off track while I try to go into or out of a corner slowly)
- still can keep its speed when it goes off track and sometimes it is even able to overtake there.

The "doubled"/ echoed/stuttering (or whatever you like to call it) sound issue still exists.

I am sorry to say that, but 1.4 is a step back in case of the controller steering. A lot of other things that are said to be fixed do not show any noticeable improvement (maybe because of the steering issue). The only noticeable improvements are the saveable HUD, the smoother graphic and the "end season"/"car setup"- options in the career main menu.

RacerPaul65
19-06-2015, 19:31
I think a lot of people would like to revert to prior release of this game before they spent
their money. I don't think you can bud
I'm enjoying pCARS so I don't share that view. Didn't half make me chuckle though :D

nissan4ever
19-06-2015, 19:39
With patch 1.4 the controller steering went worse than post 1.3. At steering mode
3 road cars behave like vessels and their turning ability is that of a fully loaded mega freighter. karts, GT and LMP cars are easy to drive.
2 no kind of car is giving a 100% response or behaves comfortable
1 road cars are drivable but gt cars and lmp cars are twitchy and steer "awkward"

In mode 1 it even seems that the steer lock problem returned, yesterday and right before posting here my lmp1 car at Road America as well as the historical Escort at Oulton and some other cars on different tracks turned into the opposite direction without any reason.

The AI ( I would like to call it Artificial Idiots)
- in rain still is way too fast and without any mistake, still goes on without the need of a pit stop due to changing weather conditions.
- still behaves like I am invisible (due to the worse controller steering it is shooting me off track while I try to go into or out of a corner slowly)
- still can keep its speed when it goes off track and sometimes it is even able to overtake there.

The "doubled"/ echoed/stuttering (or whatever you like to call it) sound issue still exists.

I am sorry to say that, but 1.4 is a step back in case of the controller steering. A lot of other things that are said to be fixed do not show any noticeable improvement (maybe because of the steering issue). The only noticeable improvements are the saveable HUD, the smoother graphic and the "end season"/"car setup"- options in the career main menu.

Did you go back to "options & help". Go to "Control". Then hit "Y Button" to reset your controller after patch 1.4?? After you do this, go back back and set your various preferences for your deadzones, etc. You should be good to go!


You need to do this. This goes for wheel or controller users!!

bluesky0870
19-06-2015, 19:47
Did you go back to "options & help". Go to "Control". Then hit "Y Button" to reset your controller after patch 1.4?? After you do this, go back back and set your various preferences for your deadzones, etc. You should be good to go!


You need to do this. This goes for wheel or controller users!!

Surely I've done this. More than one time. I even experimented with different settings on different modes. I am not unexperienced or just not smart enough to test some settings, but after at least 4 hours now I can't find any setting that I feel comfortable with. or that works in a satisfying way with all cars.
But thank you for the advice with the Y- button, that may help a lot of other players with the same issue.

Outlier
19-06-2015, 21:06
Well, I just spent about 2 hours driving and tuning the Audi R8 LMS on Imola and found the controls or handling no different than 1.3. My buddies yesterday were not reporting sensitive controls or any noticeable changes either **I did do a hard re-set after the patch installed though as did most of my friends.

I can only report nice smooth gameplay. (with the exception of the sound still cutting out from time to time. I wondering if this is related to the engineer talking to you over the radio???)

bluesky0870
19-06-2015, 21:21
Not being far away from giving up the game I found the solution for the steering issue, at least for MY steering issue.

I simply uninstalled the game, restarted the xb1 from the system menu to clear the cache, reinstalled the game including all dlcs, after that I started the game to get the update, installed the update, restarted xb1 again, started the game and went right to the settings menu, pressed Y in advance (Idk if it is necessary in the "virgin" condition) in the controller section, switched the buttons to my likes and the controller mode to mode 3 (default, no changes)
After that I jumped into practice mode, and, to keep it short and simple, every f*c$@? single car was driveable.
I've tested
the Megane, Huayra, Audi R8, Audi R18, Zakspeed Capri, Mitsubishi Evo, Merc DTM car, Merc Evo2, RUF CTR, Ginetta G55 and a few more that I can't remember at the moment.
And the handling of all of them is as it should be or as I expected it...

I'll try to keep an eye on the AI in rainy conditions later, hopefully its behaviour has improved too.

If this helps to improve other people's game experience too I am happy.

nissan4ever
19-06-2015, 21:29
The AI speed in the rain won't be fixed until patch 1.5 (they will pit for wets now, if rain starts like after 5/6 laps). Along with another 14% boost in game fps performance (14% gain stated by Ian Bell)

bluesky0870
19-06-2015, 21:33
Why is the AI speed issue under rainy conditions announced as being fixed in 1.4 release notes then?

Dookie Possum
19-06-2015, 22:19
Exactly what I've been experiencing. I posted it as a thread, it got moved to another thread and nobody bothered to help or at least give suggestions on how to fix. The surging as you put it makes braking impossible.

AdM1
19-06-2015, 22:52
Not being far away from giving up the game I found the solution for the steering issue, at least for MY steering issue.

I simply uninstalled the game, restarted the xb1 from the system menu to clear the cache, reinstalled the game including all dlcs, after that I started the game to get the update, installed the update, restarted xb1 again, started the game and went right to the settings menu, pressed Y in advance (Idk if it is necessary in the "virgin" condition) in the controller section, switched the buttons to my likes and the controller mode to mode 3 (default, no changes)
After that I jumped into practice mode, and, to keep it short and simple, every f*c$@? single car was driveable.
I've tested
the Megane, Huayra, Audi R8, Audi R18, Zakspeed Capri, Mitsubishi Evo, Merc DTM car, Merc Evo2, RUF CTR, Ginetta G55 and a few more that I can't remember at the moment.
And the handling of all of them is as it should be or as I expected it...

I'll try to keep an eye on the AI in rainy conditions later, hopefully its behaviour has improved too.

If this helps to improve other people's game experience too I am happy.

Not really getting as many issues as some but might just do this in a few days and see if there is any difference..

jsykes
19-06-2015, 23:20
No head banging. It's just ongoing proof that you can't please them all. We've learned that over the years :)

Its not about pleasing everyone, its about simply providing a working product. I realize many people are in good shape, but there are a ton of people still having issues and to imply that those people are unreasonable and cant be pleased is a little insulting.

My game was fine before 1.4, now I have crashing issues. I'm not asking for much, just a functional game. If providing a game that simply functions as it should for all those that purchased it is "trying to please everyone" and you say you cant do that, then maybe you shouldn't be producing games.

Del Zotto x82x
19-06-2015, 23:49
You know most of these people who come on here bitching and hollering about the game, in the end, find out or realize they were the actual problem the entire time and not the game itself... Before crying about how bad the game is and how it doesn't work for you, try to figure shit out.. If you cant figure it out, ask someone.. But to come on here whining and crying about what a "waste of money" and blah-blah-blah, wah-wah-wah... Many times I thought I exhausted all avenues to no end, only to accidently find a solution by trying to figure it out on my own.. Ok, some of you whiners do fess up and realize the solution was simple and that the game is NOT BROKEN and admitted so.. But too many people are just out for a troll... Drives me BONKERS! People wanna help, trust me! But to read all of the B.S. complaining about how the game's broke and "you better fix it" crap, thread after thread. Just go away please..

jsykes
20-06-2015, 01:41
Ok, Del Zotto, I'll admit when I'm wrong, but so should SMS and when there are a host of bugs and problems and they're on here complaining about people complaining about the issues, that isnt right.

If you want to help, please help me because I could very well be just missing something on one of my issues. Multiple times now, driving at night I've had my lights or nose damaged and lose my headlights. When I go into the pits, I have all the damage boxes checked to be fixed, yet nothing happens. They dont fix it. I have to quit the race cause you cant drive Le Mans at night without headlights and I cant get them fixed.

If you know of how to get them fixed, I'm all ears.

Also, if you can help me figure out why my game hangs about every other race when I try to quit qualifying, I'd like to know that too. When it does it I have no choice but to just quit the game.

I've posted a video multiple times in this forum and no one has responded even though there have been devs in the threads I posted in. Here is a link to the vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqynKB2011Y

So please, I'm not here to bash the game or the company, I just want someone to fix the stuff or acknowledge it.

bluesky0870
20-06-2015, 08:08
You know most of these people who come on here bitching and hollering about the game, in the end, find out or realize they were the actual problem the entire time and not the game itself... Before crying about how bad the game is and how it doesn't work for you, try to figure shit out.. If you cant figure it out, ask someone.. But to come on here whining and crying about what a "waste of money" and blah-blah-blah, wah-wah-wah... Many times I thought I exhausted all avenues to no end, only to accidently find a solution by trying to figure it out on my own.. Ok, some of you whiners do fess up and realize the solution was simple and that the game is NOT BROKEN and admitted so.. But too many people are just out for a troll... Drives me BONKERS! People wanna help, trust me! But to read all of the B.S. complaining about how the game's broke and "you better fix it" crap, thread after thread. Just go away please..

You know most of these people who come on here defending and praising a buggy game, in the end, never find out or realize they were the actual problem because they are blaming on all the "whiners" instead of giving any useful help... But too many people are just out for a troll and you are one of them. Shall I continue???

All those people who are having trouble or issues to play the game seem to be here only for trolling or are they here to find a solution or to report about their problem? Even you as a little fanboy should notice that the game had and is having more construction areas than the whole city of London.

Most people are expecting a game that they start on their console and that is running fine and working properly without doing a workaround, testing or whatever.
When you buy a new car and you would have to fill in some fuel, mount the doors, connect all the wires to the gauges, calibrate the throttle range and so on first before you are able to drive, you would be that kind of whiner you are whining about too. Do you smell something?

Nevertheless the game is playable, not always enjoyable. In MY case...

Stag
20-06-2015, 10:57
You know most of these people who come on here bitching and hollering about the game, in the end, find out or realize they were the actual problem the entire time and not the game itself... Before crying about how bad the game is and how it doesn't work for you, try to figure shit out.. If you cant figure it out, ask someone.. But to come on here whining and crying about what a "waste of money" and blah-blah-blah, wah-wah-wah... Many times I thought I exhausted all avenues to no end, only to accidently find a solution by trying to figure it out on my own.. Ok, some of you whiners do fess up and realize the solution was simple and that the game is NOT BROKEN and admitted so.. But too many people are just out for a troll... Drives me BONKERS! People wanna help, trust me! But to read all of the B.S. complaining about how the game's broke and "you better fix it" crap, thread after thread. Just go away please..
Perfectly put.
Every car is drivable and great fun you just need patience , a bit of car knowledge or be prepared to learn. Plenty of help here. But like I said if you can't tune a Diddley bow maybe this isn't the scene.

Del Zotto x82x
23-06-2015, 23:49
You know most of these people who come on here defending and praising a buggy game, in the end, never find out or realize they were the actual problem because they are blaming on all the "whiners" instead of giving any useful help... But too many people are just out for a troll and you are one of them. Shall I continue???

All those people who are having trouble or issues to play the game seem to be here only for trolling or are they here to find a solution or to report about their problem? Even you as a little fanboy should notice that the game had and is having more construction areas than the whole city of London.

Most people are expecting a game that they start on their console and that is running fine and working properly without doing a workaround, testing or whatever.
When you buy a new car and you would have to fill in some fuel, mount the doors, connect all the wires to the gauges, calibrate the throttle range and so on first before you are able to drive, you would be that kind of whiner you are whining about too. Do you smell something?

Nevertheless the game is playable, not always enjoyable. In MY case...

LMFAO, REALLY? I MEAN, REALLY?