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wraithsrike
26-06-2015, 22:12
I only ever play driving games in cockpit view if the game hasnt got a cockpit view I don't buy it it's that simple.

But a friend of mine preaches to me about how great he is at racing games a is an all assists off kind of guy, so while he was around I let him have a go at Pcars as he hasn't it, but to my shock he went straight to 3rd view and tells me he alway uses that view, which is cool each to their own and all that but how can you claim to be a all assists off sim racers kind of guy and then drive by steering your little car around the track? I just don't get that's more like playing radio controlled cars.

When you drive a car IRL you sit inside not on the roof or on the bonnet or 6 foot behind it.

I often wondered why in forza he missed most of the smack ups, I know why now it was because he had far greater visibility that the rest of us being able to see all the way around not only our cars but his as well.

I must admit when racing online I don't care what assists people use including the line but the view is the one thing that does bug me.

What do you guys think?

TheReaper GT
26-06-2015, 22:15
I use the cockpit view with 105 degrees of fov. :D I find it the most immersive.

Goggles Paisano
26-06-2015, 22:18
Cockpit view. Field of view set so that I can see both side-mirrors (if the car has 2).

wraithsrike
26-06-2015, 22:19
I use the cockpit view with 105 degrees of fov. :D I find it the most immersive.

I use 100 might try 105 see what difference it makes

TheReaper GT
26-06-2015, 22:21
I use 100% might try 105 see what difference it makes

I'am trying it now, I usually use 115 but the Caterham is too narrow. I think I'll go back to 115 and use the backseat cam to the little car.

Pink_650S
26-06-2015, 22:21
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?31278-What-camera-view-do-you-prefer

wraithsrike
26-06-2015, 22:26
Cockpit view. Field of view set so that I can see both side-mirrors (if the car has 2).

At what degree do you have the fov set at inorder to see both mirrors?

hoodi4cars
26-06-2015, 22:26
Even though I'd call myself a sim racer, I am actually using the front bumper cam in pCARS. two reasons: 1) you have a better insight in where your car is on the track, which is especially useful when doing corners with inner barriers. and 2) which is the more important reason: the driving sensation is just more intense, because of the non-dampened sound and the sense of speed.

falm
26-06-2015, 22:27
Using Helmet Cam with FOV 70 (or 75). Took me some time to get used to the movement of the head, but now I love it.

LADY GEMMA JANE
26-06-2015, 22:28
Chase cam, I like to look at my car while racing for some strange reason :p

TheReaper GT
26-06-2015, 22:29
Chase cam, I like to look at my car while racing for some strange reason :p

That audi LMS ass and sound :D:D:D

Flaw3dGenius
26-06-2015, 22:30
Cockpit FOV 62

madmax2069
26-06-2015, 22:30
Hood/bonnet view, for some odd reason when I use the cockpit view in a racing game it makes me disoriented, which is kinda odd because I dont have this issue while driving in real life.

wraithsrike
26-06-2015, 22:31
Using Helmet Cam with FOV 70 (or 75). Took me some time to get used to the movement of the head, but now I love it.

I've tried the helmet cam but I found it destroys the sounds of the cars, i love hearing the engines scream ;-)

OutbreakDV
26-06-2015, 22:37
I tend to switch around. If I had a wheel though I would certainly use cockpit.

MikeyTT
26-06-2015, 22:39
Bar GPL I've always been a bonnet cam kind of guy.

But I have to say pCars I'm one of the 5% all the time now. Although having watched a few external chase videos, I'm missing out on so much NOISE!!!!

MrFlibble81
26-06-2015, 22:40
Offline I use cockpit view. But online I use chase view.

Goggles Paisano
26-06-2015, 22:43
At what degree do you have the fov set at inorder to see both mirrors?

I'll have to double check. It varies depending on the car. - I've got triple screens (22 inch widescreens) so I get a pretty good field of view.

OperatorWay
26-06-2015, 22:46
I only ever play driving games in cockpit view... how can you claim to be a all assists off sim racers kind of guy and then drive by steering your little car around the track?... I don't care what assists people use including the line but the view is the one thing that does bug me... What do you guys think?


It doesn't matter one bit to me how other people customize their own games. People can play their games however they want as long as the same options are fairly available to everyone & they're not violating any rules or terms-of-service.

I'm glad the game has so many options to accommodate different play-styles & preferences. Different people prefer different options.

I play my game my way, you play your game your way, and everybody's happy with their game. :)


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TheReaper GT
26-06-2015, 22:49
At what degree do you have the fov set at inorder to see both mirrors?

115 let you see both on almost all cars.

Brent G
26-06-2015, 23:06
For me its cockpit and everything set to real. Its all about the realism and for me pCars is as a real as it gets without donning a crash helmet and hitting the track. So immersive, I love it!

Im Sorry
26-06-2015, 23:13
Cockpit or bonnet. I feel I'm faster with bonnet cam depending on car!

Mellowyellow
26-06-2015, 23:49
For the majority of cars I use Chase view. (The sound) Although I prefer to use cockpit view with the single seaters and the classic tourers, the Mercedes-Benz 300SEL/Ford Escort. Like the classic formula one cars they're have a lot of oversteer so cockpit view helps me react quicker than chase view because I can see the steering wheel. It varies to be honest.

I'm still using DS4. When I get a wheel I'll be on the inside more.

Phishfinger
27-06-2015, 00:44
Cockpit is my favourite but I find myself changing the view multiple times during a race depending of different track conditions. I'll quite often start a race in chase cam to avoid accidents and then when I settle down into the race I switch back to cockpit or helmet cam. The back seat camera is quite good fun and in the formula cars and prototypes the roof cam looks like a TV replay. The ones I don't use much are the Bumper and Hood cams.

GamingCanuck
27-06-2015, 02:21
Cockpit with helmet cam, I actually hate that I can't use helmet cam on almost any other racing game.

MagnusOpium
27-06-2015, 02:36
Cockpit or even helmet for me in most cases, as in pretty much any racing game I play. There's a few cars where I just can't really see anything in cockpit view, so I might use 3rd person for those, but I tend not to drive those particular vehicles much anyway...

Cheesenium
27-06-2015, 03:03
Hood cam for me because it offers the best FoV on a 15 inch single screen pc.

TheReaper GT
27-06-2015, 03:13
Hood cam for me because it offers the best FoV on a 15 inch single screen pc.

Now, that's a good reason. I think I'd use the same with that screen size.

danpinho
27-06-2015, 03:26
Cockpit FOV 88~115 (car dependent)
Assists: All Off
Hud: Off (even when racing MP). It'smore immersive IMO.

TheReaper GT
27-06-2015, 03:56
Cockpit FOV 88~115 (car dependent)
Assists: All Off
Hud: Off (even when racing MP). It'smore immersive IMO.

You change the cokpit FOV on the fly or go to the options every time? If it's on the fly, how you do it?

3800racingfool
27-06-2015, 04:44
You change the cokpit FOV on the fly or go to the options every time? If it's on the fly, how you do it?

The [ and ] keys by default.


I usually use cabin/helmet cam. I do find that I'm a bit faster (up to 1 second) using 3rd person view though. Cabin feels more natural though so I stick with it and being slow.

Dutchmountains
27-06-2015, 04:47
Always cockpit view with or without helmet cam.

Panopticism
27-06-2015, 06:15
Helmet cam with the actual helmet graphics disabled. It's a neat idea with the helmet outline but the on screen helmet graphic is quite a bit more obstructive than the real helmets that I have, and I found it distracting. It's like the helmet isn't on all the way or something?

Does anyone know if the helmet graphic was based on an actual helmet on the market?

Edit: to be clear, I do not wear a real helmet while I'm on a simulator. I'm just not that cool. I know that there are some people who like to wear full racing gear, which will come in handy in the event that a house fire breaks out during gameplay. I'll stick to shoes and (sometimes) gloves.

Kitt
27-06-2015, 09:09
Cockpit sometimes,chase view mostly.Only thing with cockpit view is I can't shake the feeling that I'm just steering a dashboard around a track lol.

Sik180sx
27-06-2015, 11:22
Cockpit,first game ever too :) always used bumper or bonnet/hood till p-cars,FOV at 80

cluck
27-06-2015, 11:51
Cockpit with Oculus Rift here :). Before I got my OR, it was cockpit view on a single 1920x1200 screen - to avoid crashing, I used situational awareness to gauge where cars were around me.

If somebody wants to drive from bonnet, bumper or chase cam, that's up to them and I won't berate anybody (not suggesting for a minute that anybody here is) for their choice. If a game forces you to use a view that you don't like, then you will automatically lose some of your enjoyment and, for me, games are all about enjoyment, taking a break from the real world. The moment a game becomes teeth-gnashingly frustrating, that's the point at which I go online and vent my frustrations to the world, because the world really does care about my petty frustrations with a game play something else for a while :).

copes24
27-06-2015, 12:05
Helmet Cam. FOV 50. Helmet OFF.

I'm quicker in bumper and hood cam but I'm not bothered. Helmet cam is more immersive.

akipa
27-06-2015, 12:07
I use either hood or roof cam, because I feel it gives me closer realism than the interior views. Sure, I can't see the dash and A pillars like when sitting in a real car, but in a real car I can usually also see the bonnet and have a better understanding of where my front wheels are, than in any sim's cockpit views. Also using only one screen, the cockpit view never gives as wide a view to both sides as would be realistic.

Edit: changed bumper to hood.

Racefreak
27-06-2015, 12:15
Cockpit FTW

schneterz
27-06-2015, 12:24
Hood view, since cockpit view lets me see two steering wheels. My t300 and the cars wheel.
the way i sit, the top of my t300 is in the screen, so it is the closest to what i see when driving a real car!
Cockpit view is very nice, but i think the way you see the track is not very realistic.

Paulzx
27-06-2015, 12:44
I only ever play driving games in cockpit view if the game hasnt got a cockpit view I don't buy it it's that simple.

But a friend of mine preaches to me about how great he is at racing games a is an all assists off kind of guy, so while he was around I let him have a go at Pcars as he hasn't it, but to my shock he went straight to 3rd view and tells me he alway uses that view, which is cool each to their own and all that but how can you claim to be a all assists off sim racers kind of guy and then drive by steering your little car around the track? I just don't get that's more like playing radio controlled cars.

When you drive a car IRL you sit inside not on the roof or on the bonnet or 6 foot behind it.

I often wondered why in forza he missed most of the smack ups, I know why now it was because he had far greater visibility that the rest of us being able to see all the way around not only our cars but his as well.

I must admit when racing online I don't care what assists people use including the line but the view is the one thing that does bug me.

What do you guys think?

Exactly the same mate. It's laughable when you see some of the online racing specialists doing these ultra fast laps - from outside the car!

Back in the days of the original Geoff Crammond F1, there was ONLY cockpit view. That's how it should be now. PCars has gone one better by including
the helmet cam, but anything other than what the drivers viewpoint should be left out.

For those who can't drive from cockpit view - yes you can, you just need to give yourself time to adapt, and then you'll get more from the sim

MrBlacky
27-06-2015, 13:04
Chase cam, I like to look at my car while racing for some strange reason :p

Kill it with fire!!..

macto
27-06-2015, 13:16
I've always used bonnet/hood cam as it find it the most realistic. If I had a triple monitor set up I would use cockpit so I have some peripheral vision cos to me it's not realistic to use cockpit/helmet cam and view the world in tunnel vision on a single display.

Bonnet/hood cam is a good 'in-between' when using a single monitor or TV.

Each to their own but like the OP, I cannot understand people using all realistic settings and then using chase cam.

akipa
27-06-2015, 13:27
It's laughable when you see some of the online racing specialists doing these ultra fast laps - from outside the car!

Back in the days of the original Geoff Crammond F1, there was ONLY cockpit view. That's how it should be now. PCars has gone one better by including
the helmet cam, but anything other than what the drivers viewpoint should be left out.

For those who can't drive from cockpit view - yes you can, you just need to give yourself time to adapt, and then you'll get more from the sim
Maybe, until you sit in a real car and realise that you can actually see a lot more than just the top half of your steering wheel, the driver's side of the dashboard, and the road from 20 meters in front of you onwards.

I admit the cockpit view might be the most realistic choice, if you're sitting close to a three screen setup. Something less then that, and the field of view is just not realistic. I play with a G27 in front of the sofa three meters from a 42" screen. With that setup, the cockpit view of any sim is so far from realistic its laughable.

jim jonez
27-06-2015, 13:28
Always use cockpit view... With fov@49 with a 60inch TV (used fov calculator and got 44) seeing some pretty high fov.. Does it not look unrealistic with fov @100?

Gloomy
27-06-2015, 13:38
I used to always use chase. I switched to cockpit when I got my first wheel, that was around the release of dirt 2.

Olijke Poffer
27-06-2015, 13:47
Always use cockpit view... With fov@49 with a 60inch TV (used fov calculator and got 44) seeing some pretty high fov.. Does it not look unrealistic with fov @100?

I have a fov of 86 with the helmet cam view. It does not go any higher than 86. How are you able to set it a higher value than 86? Is this because I'm on a Xbox?

TheReaper GT
27-06-2015, 13:47
Maybe, until you sit in a real car and realise that you can actually see a lot more than just the top half of your steering wheel, the driver's side of the dashboard, and the road from 20 meters in front of you onwards.

I admit the cockpit view might be the most realistic choice, if you're sitting close to a three screen setup. Something less then that, and the field of view is just not realistic. I play with a G27 in front of the sofa three meters from a 42" screen. With that setup, the cockpit view of any sim is so far from realistic its laughable.

Adjust your cockpit view fov. I play from my couch, about twelve feet from a 51" plasma and I found it very good:

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akipa
27-06-2015, 14:01
Adjust your cockpit view fov. I play from my couch, about twelve feet from a 51" plasma and I found it very good:
Not quite. A high fov indeed lets you see as wide as you really would, but it also produces a fisheye effect with a wide view cramped into a small picture area. That disturbs the depth vision quite severely from what I've experimented, but arguably one may get used to it with time.

Mellowyellow
27-06-2015, 23:28
One disadvantage I've noticed when using chase view is when the sun is low in the sky, it's blinding! If you change to cockpit view the sun visor strips block out the bright rays which helps considerably in braking zones!

TheReaper GT
27-06-2015, 23:47
One disadvantage I've noticed when using chase view is when the sun is low in the sky, it's blinding! If you change to cockpit view the sun visor strips block out the bright rays which helps considerably in braking zones!

It depends on the exact time and car, because some cars let you blind anyway auhauha

Mellowyellow
28-06-2015, 00:05
It depends on the exact time and car, because some cars let you blind anyway auhauha

I agree. Aka single seaters :cool:

TheReaper GT
28-06-2015, 00:14
I agree. Aka single seaters :cool:

Yeah, the old GT1 and LMP cars too.

madmax2069
28-06-2015, 01:18
Hood view especially when you already have a cockpit.

Like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M9cbd_1G5E

Or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsVUW_CMFV8

Jesse Fahrenkrog
28-06-2015, 01:49
Cockpit mostly but I dabble with the helmet cam. It really is fantastic but I just haven't let myself get used to it yet.