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Trance
06-07-2015, 16:55
Hi guys!
Well basically that's it. Does the files work on the latest update?

Ralph B
06-07-2015, 18:27
Yes, they still work. But maybe they require some different basic setting in the controller settings. There's a clipping bug since patch 1.4, which gives you a heavy centering effect of the wheel in some case. There are several workarrounds here in the forum, just search a little bit.

Roger Prynne
06-07-2015, 19:22
Jacks files will always work with any update, unless the FFB itself is changed, which I doubt ever will be.

Trance
07-07-2015, 05:34
Yes, they still work. But maybe they require some different basic setting in the controller settings. There's a clipping bug since patch 1.4, which gives you a heavy centering effect of the wheel in some case. There are several workarrounds here in the forum, just search a little bit.
What is centering effect?

Thanks!

Ralph B
07-07-2015, 10:19
What is centering effect?

Thanks!That you feel a strong force which tries to center the wheel during driving. Even it's not really a spring, but a sideeffect of heavy clipping, it feels like having enabled a spring, that pulls your wheel into the center position. A slight tendency of that would be realistic, but currently it far to much and kills the majority of other subtile FFB-effects.

Sankyo
07-07-2015, 10:34
I really think that we should get rid of the "centering spring effect" term when it's not a spring effect. Any car will have a wheels straightening effect and with that a steering wheel centering effect when driving, which is a completely normal thing. Depending on the car's anatomy and set-up, it can be stronger or weaker. The force with which the wheels pull the steering wheel to the center is determined by these factors as well.

In the game, this natural wheels straightening effect is translated to FFB through the FFB engine that has multiple parameters that determine the strength and feel of the FFB. Among these, Tyre Force and Mz have a strong influence on the resulting FFB force. The calculated physical forces on the wheels/tyres are always the same (if you don't change the car's set-up), but how it translates to FFB in the wheel and hence the strength of the wheel centering force depends on these FFB parameters.

Therefore, a wrong/bugged/fake centering spring effect needs to be distinguished from a wheel centering force that is actually caused by correct physics calculations, but could be (subjectively) too strong because of too high FFB parameter values.

So,
centering spring = non-physics driven effect
wheel centering force = physics-driven effect, but strength determined by FFB set-up

Let's try and adapt this new terminology.

CCS86
07-07-2015, 16:55
I really think that we should get rid of the "centering spring effect" term when it's not a spring effect. Any car will have a wheels straightening effect and with that a steering wheel centering effect when driving, which is a completely normal thing. Depending on the car's anatomy and set-up, it can be stronger or weaker. The force with which the wheels pull the steering wheel to the center is determined by these factors as well.

In the game, this natural wheels straightening effect is translated to FFB through the FFB engine that has multiple parameters that determine the strength and feel of the FFB. Among these, Tyre Force and Mz have a strong influence on the resulting FFB force. The calculated physical forces on the wheels/tyres are always the same (if you don't change the car's set-up), but how it translates to FFB in the wheel and hence the strength of the wheel centering force depends on these FFB parameters.

Therefore, a wrong/bugged/fake centering spring effect needs to be distinguished from a wheel centering force that is actually caused by correct physics calculations, but could be (subjectively) too strong because of too high FFB parameter values.

So,
centering spring = non-physics driven effect
wheel centering force = physics-driven effect, but strength determined by FFB set-up

Let's try and adapt this new terminology.



Absolutely!