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Lagoa
01-08-2015, 16:21
Driving the Austin Martin V8 Vantage GT4.

Doing my first GT4 season. I always race AI at 90 or 100%.
But no mather what I try to change in the tuning setup I can't keep up with the AI in this car..
Is it me or are the other GT4 cars just better? (they seem to have more grip?).
Especially the Ginetta GT4 is always in the front it seems. Haven't drivin this car so don't know...

Is there anything I can change to make the default setup better so I can compete better...
Really pushing this car to the limit but they are still faster.. :P

Mr Akina
01-08-2015, 16:25
The Ginetta is the better car although the Vantage V8 has more straight line speed. I race at 90% in GT4 and I chose the Ginetta as it was always clearly the faster car in my previous season where I raced the Aston Hydrogen POS lol.

John Hargreaves
01-08-2015, 18:56
I think it‘s also getting used to the standard of AI in pCars. If I drive carefully at my best with no mistakes, I can keep up with the AI at about 85%, any more than that and it starts to become quite a lonely experience. I tried Raceroom the other day and at 85% the AI were virtually standing still, I passed them all from the back in one lap, so I don‘t think there is any shame in turning down the AI if that gives you more enjoyable racing. You paid for the game, you can set it up how you want.
I often vary the AI depending on the track and car, and you can have excellent racing at lower levels, they are still quite fast but maybe less aggressive, and if you start from the back of the grid you can do a Lewis and work your way up during the race.

Nats
01-08-2015, 19:07
Yes I have the AI set at 60% and thats about right for me - I keep up with them in the straights and can often catch one or two them in some of the corners but others they are faster around the corners. And some of the AI are much cleaner than me and get great lap after great lap! But I usually go off once or twice a race and usually lose a stack of places and have to make my way through again. At that level if I do a really good lap (unusual with my joystick) I can get on pole.

You set the game to the level you want to play. Nobody says that 100% of the AI is reflective of the real race speeds in real life do they? I'm sure of you spend ages setting the car up, use a wheel, get all your corners spot on and make no mistakes you can probably do races at 100% and maybe even finish in the pack, but one mistake and you are done for - who wants that kind of pressure in a game? Not me.

wraithsrike
01-08-2015, 19:34
I personally find very little different in AI between 60-100 the main difference I notice is the higher the difficulty the more aggressive they are for cleaner smoother racing I find lowering the difficulty works.

But that said the AI difficulty vary so much depending on car and track its unreal.

Skrillex
02-08-2015, 02:05
I personally find very little different in AI between 60-100 the main difference I notice is the higher the difficulty the more aggressive they are for cleaner smoother racing I find lowering the difficulty works.

But that said the AI difficulty vary so much depending on car and track its unreal.
Whew..... OK its not just me then lol I was wondering why at 70% I was getting smoked by the ai when all season at that percentage I was doing fine in formula A. Formula B I was running ai at 80% but in a GT3 car I had to turn it down to 60% to keep up.

Onikami
02-08-2015, 02:51
Some cars can be difficult to drive clean especially when your used to one car class. Im used to Formula A, and kart But when driving GT class and recently in career the old car (i forgot the name), I find it hard to drive because it tends to oversteer. Unlike Formula Cars (because I play with no assists).

Fanapryde
02-08-2015, 05:31
I personally find very little different in AI between 60-100 the main difference I notice is the higher the difficulty the more aggressive they are for cleaner smoother racing I find lowering the difficulty works.

I must have different sets of AI on PS4 then.
There is a HUGE difference between 60 and 100 in career mode and invitationals.
That is precisely why I would like the settings in smaller increments (like on PC)

Bu as you said: difficulty varies depending on track/car/race

xautos
02-08-2015, 06:52
at lemans the otherday in an invitational in the final race of that season driving the sauber c9. i adjusted the settings to give a little more speed, that didnt work but even on default it wouldnt of made much difference, the 1st time ever on 100% i was beaten to the pole position, that has not happened in any race in my career to date, when i drove the car in the race i had slowly edged away, yet at the start of the season in brno for that inviational season i was doing several seconds faster. its the same elsewhere, it was particularly close with the uk tc2 historic inviational as well, driving the ford escort around oulton, only ended up on pole by mere fractions of a second from the nearest ai driver, again i was creeping away from the pack, only built up a 10 second gap at the end including one fairly big error coming out the final turn due to wheel spin in gear 2. kind of wondering what the next race on that calander is going to do about times.

Dresden
02-08-2015, 07:08
I am racing a Ginetta in a GT4 single race weekend at the moment. Judging by the own feel plus the AI times of the other vehicles, it does seem that the Ginetta is a much better all round car than the Martin. The only track in my championship that the AM had an advantage was at Monza with the long straights. We have dominated them on all other tracks. The BMW and the Mustang are even worse. They are miles back.

As for the AI I love that SMS have scaled it so high. I race on 60 or 70 and that feels great for me. It is good to know the 100 is there if I need it. Increments of 2 will make it perfect.

Poulka
02-08-2015, 07:26
I race at 60, but I will tell you at some track and car combos I can get smoked at 60. So I have tried to notice which combos do that and nect time I race I back it off a little.

Lagoa
02-08-2015, 12:09
Well, than that's that. It is IMPOSSIBLE to keep up with the Austin V8 at 100% AI. At Watkins Glen I was 2nd. But now at Sonoma. It is impossible. I dare anyone to win that race (without cheating and holding off the AI racers). And as far as lowering the AI goes... I never go below 80%. So it just doesn't feel right to lower them so much :)

Btw, I race with the TX wheel and assists at 'real'.

danowat
02-08-2015, 12:23
There are some bizarre things happening with the AI.

Was doing a GT4 race at Sonoma, qualified first, second place was a few tenths behind, however the race was a different story.

In the Sprint race, the guy who qualified second was 2-3 seconds quicker than both me, and the next fastest AI, but in the main race, he seemed to lose this advantage.

Why was he so OP in the sprint race?

flymar
02-08-2015, 12:27
Yes I have the AI set at 60% and thats about right for me - I keep up with them in the straights and can often catch one or two them in some of the corners but others they are faster around the corners. And some of the AI are much cleaner than me and get great lap after great lap! But I usually go off once or twice a race and usually lose a stack of places and have to make my way through again. At that level if I do a really good lap (unusual with my joystick) I can get on pole.

You set the game to the level you want to play. Nobody says that 100% of the AI is reflective of the real race speeds in real life do they? I'm sure of you spend ages setting the car up, use a wheel, get all your corners spot on and make no mistakes you can probably do races at 100% and maybe even finish in the pack, but one mistake and you are done for - who wants that kind of pressure in a game? Not me. I don't touch set ups. Trying to use manual H-shifter (new thing for me) and 60-70 is about right. My consistency sucks a lot also:)

Hengist
02-08-2015, 12:31
There are some bizarre things happening with the AI.

Was doing a GT4 race at Sonoma, qualified first, second place was a few tenths behind, however the race was a different story.

In the Sprint race, the guy who qualified second was 2-3 seconds quicker than both me, and the next fastest AI, but in the main race, he seemed to lose this advantage.

Why was he so OP in the sprint race?

I've also experienced similar activity. I also wish that Doug would slow down the AI more for the tyre warming lap, I'm fed up of being rammed (Clio, G40 & G55-GT4).

TK-Jeff
02-08-2015, 15:16
Some car classes I can do it on 60% but most I can't even do on 40% kinda annoys me. Would you tuning cars make it a bit easier