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pigsy
06-08-2015, 14:47
Road Car invitation event at Road America. Checking the telemetry screen for both the player car and AI at Road America revels the player car producing 760hp compared to 615hp for the AI. Wastgate is locked on the player car so there is a severe disparity against the AI. I can easily put my car on pole at 100% AI setting.
Also I note that both player and AI both run very high rear brake temperatures over 1000 degrees, but it doesn't seem to affect brake performance.

TheReaper GT
06-08-2015, 15:13
The power in telemetry is about throttle use, so the Ai is going easier on the throttle. The brakes temp is normal for ceramic brakes...

seb02
06-08-2015, 17:23
Road Car invitation event at Road America. Checking the telemetry screen for both the player car and AI at Road America revels the player car producing 760hp compared to 615hp for the AI. Wastgate is locked on the player car so there is a severe disparity against the AI. I can easily put my car on pole at 100% AI setting.
Also I note that both player and AI both run very high rear brake temperatures over 1000 degrees, but it doesn't seem to affect brake performance.

wahouuu, please can you give me your setup ?

pigsy
06-08-2015, 22:29
The power in telemetry is about throttle use, so the Ai is going easier on the throttle. The brakes temp is normal for ceramic brakes...
Sorry that's incorrect. At full throttle irrespective of which car player or AI should produce 100% power. The player car always powers past the the AI on the straights at Road America another indication there is a power advantage. Could be the same bug that the Lotus 98T had/has in development where it too was producing more power than the AI car. Except in its case you could screw back the wastgate pressure to give the player car the same hp as the AI. Can't do it on the Ruf as it's fixed in setup.
I would suggest the developers look at dropping the wastgate pressure on the Ruf to even it up.

TheReaper GT
06-08-2015, 22:32
Sorry that's incorrect. At full throttle irrespective of which car player or AI should produce 100% power. The player car always powers past the the AI on the straights at Road America another indication there is a power advantage. Could be the same bug that the Lotus 98T had/has in development where it too was producing more power than the AI car. Except in its case you could screw back the wastgate pressure to give the player car the same hp as the AI. Can't do it on the Ruf as it's fixed in setup.
I would suggest the developers look at dropping the wastgate pressure on the Ruf to even it up.

I don't think you got what I've said.In telemetry if you press half gas, tha power will show what the engine is producing at that moment, you flat the accel out, the power output will be max. What I am saying is that the Ai must be applying less throttle.

pigsy
07-08-2015, 00:32
AI at 100% throttle = 614hp

Player at 100% throttle = 760hp

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TheReaper GT
07-08-2015, 00:36
there you go. :D

Grijo
07-08-2015, 03:04
You changed anything in your setup? If you didn't, change something and see the hp of your car again. I see something in other thread if you change the setup, the hp goes down a little bit...

AdM1
07-08-2015, 03:11
Well there's an RPM difference but don't think it would be that drastic of a difference tbh.

What RPM does the boost come on at?

hkraft300
07-08-2015, 06:46
engine could still be producing even more torque beyond 6300 rpm which can account for the increased power.
But the question still remains- why the power limitation even at 100% AI ?

pigsy
11-08-2015, 03:33
Well there's an RPM difference but don't think it would be that drastic of a difference tbh.

What RPM does the boost come on at?

500 rpm won't produce over 150hp. The wastegate adjustment on the Ruf is locked so they should all have the same power.

hkraft300
11-08-2015, 14:44
500 rpm won't produce over 150hp. The wastegate adjustment on the Ruf is locked so they should all have the same power.

It's making 785 Nm (?) of torque at 6900 rpm and 684 Nm at 6400 rpm.
That's easy another 150 HP. The AI seems to be rev limited, not boost pressure.
Question is why?

danowat
11-08-2015, 14:48
Blimey, 150bhp less and they still kick my arse at Road America!.

I'd love to see a replay of someone beating the AI at 100%, that would be impressive.

Bealdor
12-08-2015, 07:43
I've forwarded this to the devs but you should verify this by comparing the HP/torque numbers at the same RPM and in the same gear, please.

pigsy
12-08-2015, 08:54
Maximum torque values.
AI
Gear 5. Ratio 3.23. Torque 744nm RPM 5862
Player
Gear 5. Ratio 3.23. Torque 884nm RPM 5866

AI
214914
Player
214915


Maximum HP values.
AI
Gear 5. Ratio 3.23. 615HP RPM 6431
Player
Gear 5. Ratio 3.23. 761HP RPM 6960

AI
214916

Player
214917

Bealdor
12-08-2015, 08:55
Thanks mate!

hkraft300
12-08-2015, 08:58
Whoa
The AI has a big boost leak lol

pigsy
12-08-2015, 09:19
One more pic to show that the AI will rev out to 7350+ rpm.

214918

pigsy
14-08-2015, 11:16
Same problem with the Pagani.

Player car
215049

AI
215050