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Jr126
12-09-2015, 20:59
I'm planning to pick up a G27 next week and just got this game on sale. I've only ever played racing games with a controller, so I plan to learn it all at once, from the wheel to the shifting.

Can anyone recommend a good starting vehicle for learning this?

Roger Prynne
12-09-2015, 21:02
GT4 cars are probably your best bet, I like the Ginetta myself as the FFB is excellent
Or one of the slower cars like Ginetta Junior.

Sessionerror
12-09-2015, 21:26
GT4 cars are certainly a good choice for the start. If you like open wheelers, you could also go for Formula Rookie or Formula C. And if you want some nice cars for H-shifting, you could try the Group A (this however will be a bit harder than GT4 or Formula Rookie).

Mr.Smoke
12-09-2015, 21:34
I agree with GT4 being a great place to start. The GT3 are great too, but take a bit more practice then GT4 due to increased performance.

Hope you enjoy the game & wheel. Making the switch to a wheel totally changes the experience!!

Jr126
12-09-2015, 23:34
Thanks, 3 people all agreed so that sounds like a good choice.

And just for reference, what is the hardest car to drive in your opinions?

3800racingfool
12-09-2015, 23:50
Thanks, 3 people all agreed so that sounds like a good choice.

And just for reference, what is the hardest car to drive in your opinions?

Probably a split between the RUF CTR and the Mclaren F1. Neither are really "hard" to drive but but they'll definitely feel that way if you're not used to them.

Also, +1 for the starting out with GT4/5 suggestion. The Ginetta G40 may not be quick, but it's a blast to drive (my fav car actually) and will help you learn very important traits such as carrying speed through corners, learning what gear to be in coming out of a corner, and how to approach various turns to try and shave off as many tenths as possible.

chig88
13-09-2015, 01:14
Yep, Ginetta GT4 is an excellent (and fun) starting point.

Jr126
13-09-2015, 03:09
GT4 cars are probably your best bet, I like the Ginetta myself as the FFB is excellent
Or one of the slower cars like Ginetta Junior.

Is that FFB default or with the modifications that I've seen around the forums?

k.merse
13-09-2015, 05:57
GT4 cars and Formula Juniors are indeed good to learn how to use a wheel.

Sessionerror
13-09-2015, 07:55
And just for reference, what is the hardest car to drive in your opinions?

The Lotus 49 and the Ford Mk IV are quite a challenge. However, you might love to drive them...I do :)

resmania
13-09-2015, 08:01
And just for reference, what is the hardest car to drive in your opinions?

Ruf CTR...

husker
15-09-2015, 14:31
+1 to Formula Rookie for a starter car. I did the same as you recently and got a wheel/pedals setup.

The Rookie only has 4 gears...

I then moved on to the Ginetta G40. I love it so much I'm thinking of buying one IRL...

Schnizz58
15-09-2015, 14:34
I think the best starting points are Formula Rookie for open wheelers and Ginetta G40 for tinroofs. Both are forgiving but fun to drive.

PTG Baby Cow
15-09-2015, 15:01
Agree with this. However i have not driven many of the low performance cars. Many people really like the clios, but fwd isnt for me. I just tried the Ariel Atom v8 last night and that was really good fun. The zonda cinque is fairly quick yet stable.

Schnizz58
15-09-2015, 15:22
Agree with this. However i have not driven many of the low performance cars. Many people really like the clios, but fwd isnt for me. I just tried the Ariel Atom v8 last night and that was really good fun. The zonda cinque is fairly quick yet stable.
The Clio took a while to grow on me. But once I got a setup that I liked, it was a blast. I haven't tried a Clio since 3.0 so that may not be valid anymore.

thmxvr
15-09-2015, 15:44
It all depends on what you want to do.

If you want to learn ho to drive, like in racing school, it is better to take a slow car that will reward you when doing things right and punish you (with loss of time) when not (but not razor sharp that will crash and burn when doing mistakes). Also start without downforce and ground effect because this brings its own set of tricks that are best learned when you know the basics already.

Formula rookies are real nice for this, such is the ford escort rs1600 and the caterham classic.

If you want to directly have wheel to wheel fun with other guys (with most of them probably not able to drive properly) then GT3 is to consider. It is fast, looks cool and not to slow if you drive like a hooligan compared to the smooth drivers. It have lots of fans that are not very interested in the clean driving and clean racing side of things. It is more about having raw gaming fun and finishing first at all cost.

Personally I really like slow cars, just driving alone and developing my skill and gaining experience. Going fast just for the sake of it in a car you cannot handle can be fun but for a short moment only. Racing a bunch of hooligan is definitely not my cup of tea.

Project CARS have all types of cars range from one end to the other so you can easily switch from one, the other or an intermediate depending on your mood or select the right car to develop the desired skill.

Think of the cars sorted in a table/graph where the X axis is the power to weight ratio and Y the down-force. Start with a car that have none and make you way to the cars you wan to be able to be competitive in at the end.

Obviusly: Do not forget to deactivate all the aids/assists ... You cannot learn how to drive if you let the computer drive for you.

PTG Baby Cow
15-09-2015, 16:01
It all depends on what you want to do.

If you want to learn ho to drive, like in racing school, it is better to take a slow car that will reward you when doing things right and punish you (with loss of time) when not (but not razor sharp that will crash and burn when doing mistakes). Also start without downforce and ground effect because this brings its own set of tricks that are best learned when you know the basics already.

Formula rookies are real nice for this, such is the ford escort rs1600 and the caterham classic.

If you want to directly have wheel to wheel fun with other guys (with most of them probably not able to drive properly) then GT3 is to consider. It is fast, looks cool and not to slow if you drive like a hooligan compared to the smooth drivers. It have lots of fans that are not very interested in the clean driving and clean racing side of things. It is more about having raw gaming fun and finishing first at all cost.

Personally I really like slow cars, just driving alone and developing my skill and gaining experience. Going fast just for the sake of it in a car you cannot handle can be fun but for a short moment only. Racing a bunch of hooligan is definitely not my cup of tea.

Project CARS have all types of cars range from one end to the other so you can easily switch from one, the other or an intermediate depending on your mood or select the right car to develop the desired skill.

Think of the cars sorted in a table/graph where the X axis is the power to weight ratio and Y the down-force. Start with a car that have none and make you way to the cars you wan to be able to be competitive in at the end.

Obviusly: Do not forget to deactivate all the aids/assists ... You cannot learn how to drive if you let the computer drive for you.


I agree with going with cars with low downforce if you are learning to drive. But if you already understand the basics of race craft and you are just looking to learn using a wheel vs a controller than start in whatever car suits your fancy. Some of the above mentioned cars are great to learn in, but downforce doesnt change a whole lot in terms of driving and is very easy to get used to once you are figuring out the limits. The higher downforce cars the main difference is the more downforce you run the slower your accell (increased drag) and your ability to corner at higher speeds.

Secondly, i completely disagree with his last comment. Sure jumping in and driving a car with assists will quickly teach you throttle modulation and threshold braking as you have a much greater chance of facing the opposite direction with those off, but however you intend on driving is how you should be practicing. I have always been an assists off guy, but being as this is a sim i have stuck with real assists. If the car actually has the assists in real life besides my ego what does trying to drive it differently than the race drivers do prove. (unless you are going for no assists leaderboard times, currently not available on ps4 or xbox as it doesnt track this information.)

Umer Ahmad
15-09-2015, 16:01
I would also consider the "trainer" cars: Caterham SP300 & Radical4

Lightweight prototypes, racing tyres, incredible brakes, not overwhelming HP

Very stable cars and you can push them nicely.

P75
15-09-2015, 16:19
Agree with all the above mentions of difficult cars, but for me at least, the Lykan Hypersport deserves to be mentioned. Maybe it's just me, but I think it's a real handful to drive.

Schnizz58
15-09-2015, 16:32
Secondly, i completely disagree with his last comment. Sure jumping in and driving a car with assists will quickly teach you throttle modulation and threshold braking as you have a much greater chance of facing the opposite direction with those off, but however you intend on driving is how you should be practicing. I have always been an assists off guy, but being as this is a sim i have stuck with real assists. If the car actually has the assists in real life besides my ego what does trying to drive it differently than the race drivers do prove. (unless you are going for no assists leaderboard times, currently not available on ps4 or xbox as it doesnt track this information.)
There's merit to that but I think you should learn without assists. Otherwise you're going to pick up some bad habits that will be hard to unlearn if you ever turn off those assists or get in a car where they're not available. The assists are there to help you but you don't want them becoming a crutch. It's easier going from assists off to assists on than it is the other way around.

rocho
15-09-2015, 16:40
Audi A1 is a perfect choice for me, easy to drive but very, very fun, manual shifting, not too fast nor too slow...I love this new addition to the game.