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tclancey
14-09-2015, 18:29
I'm sure this has been talked over many times, so please point me to other threads, or just give me a quick ball park figure...

What temperature should the tyres be for maximum performance? (Take out all the other parameters, I just want to know the temp)
What temperature should be brakes be for maximum performance?
What temperature should engines be running at? Does this change car by car?
If I'm in a car without a temp gauge, how do I know if I'm running hot or cold?

Thanks.

senn
14-09-2015, 22:11
green for brakes and tyres (each car has different peak performance for brakes, each tyre is different afaik) The engines I think run best around the 80-90c mark. No idea on the cars with no temp readout how you are meant to tell. I wonder if they'll ever add temps and boost pressure to the full telemetry hud or mini dash hud...

hkraft300
15-09-2015, 01:32
From what I've seen, the GT, touring and LMP car tires are good between 85-105c. Beyond 110c they start to get a little skatey. Formula A tires like to be a touch warmer 100-115c range.

Brakes are dependant on steel (pre-2000, GT3) or carbon. Steel brakes feel good from 300C-700C. Beyond 700C they fade A LOT. Fast. Carbon brakes only really wake up above 500C and feel fine above 1000C, although I haven't reached their upper limit yet. Engineer Ben starts to freak out when brakes get >1000C.

Water and oil temps you want to keep between 90- 110c. I've blown engines with prolonged running >120c. Engine life and performance is affected.

Some older cars have gauges (though I'm not sure what's what in a BMW 320T or M1), some have warning lights + gauges/digital display (cockpit/helmet cam). Some (R18 TDI) have neither, but occasionally I've seen puffs of smoke in the rear view mirror. Not sure I guess until the engine blows you won't know. Sucks that Engineer Ben doesn't chime in for a warning when the engine is running beyond critical temps.

AB_Attack
15-09-2015, 09:44
Sucks that Engineer Ben doesn't chime in for a warning when the engine is running beyond critical temps.
He doesn't? He does complain about FA brakes fairly often. I'll check at what temps next time. Good to hear at about where you have blown engines, that gives a good pointer.

I general for GT3 class for me I try to stay within 90-100 celcius for Engine, 80-100 for tires and 300-600 for brakes. Never did try overheating to feel what happens. Should be good knowledge but even though it's a game I sort of resist doing that since breaking or wearing stuff willingly is an ingrained no-no in me.

hkraft300
15-09-2015, 09:50
Have a search. There is more info at this forum in other threads about temps.

AB_Attack
15-09-2015, 10:31
I'm sure this has been talked over many times, so please point me to other threads, or just give me a quick ball park figure...

Have a search. There is more info at this forum in other threads about temps.
Seriously?

chig88
15-09-2015, 16:52
Engineer Ben starts to freak out when brakes get >1000C.


Sucks that Engineer Ben doesn't chime in for a warning when the engine is running beyond critical temps.

Honestly didn't even know that he mentions anything about the condition of the car at all! The only thing he ever mentions to me is how my lap times are, which I can see myself on the screen.

Would definitely appreciate a bit more information about the stuff I can't necessarily see (temperatures, critical fuel/tyre levels etc).

PostBox981
15-09-2015, 17:16
I was racing the Escort at Oulton Park last weekend and brakes were running hot between 400-500°C. While watching pCars Profiler on screen 2 I felt like brake wear startet above 400°C already. As it was a short race only I didnīt suffer any brake breakdown but for sure they donīt last for long under these conditions. So what I want to say is that on the classic cars the ideal brake temps even seem to be lower than said before. And: I have no idea of what to change on my Escort setup to cool brakes down a little...

hkraft300
15-09-2015, 22:32
Ye Chig get your brakes hot in a Formula A around Monza and watch Engineer Ben freak out. It's annoying as hell in a 30 lap race. I use the HUD so I know my lap times and brake temps. I'd like more useful stuff about car critical temps and conditions. The twat forgets to tell me it'll rain soon, half the time -_-

Derkanzler that's interesting info. I haven't felt brake fade <700c, but I guess they suffer damage faster above 400c in the older stuff? Rumour is a 3rd party telemetry app is in discussions for the PS4 ;)



Seriously?

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/search.php

Ok, pumpkin? And just to get you started:

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?29375-Oil-And-Water-Temperature-Question&highlight=Temperature

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?36513-brakes&highlight=Temperature

PostBox981
16-09-2015, 17:16
Derkanzler that's interesting info. I haven't felt brake fade <700c, but I guess they suffer damage faster above 400c in the older stuff? Rumour is a 3rd party telemetry app is in discussions for the PS4

Most of the time I watch the values via pCars Profiler on my second sreen, but this was the first time I realised that much brake wear in such a short time. Well, to be honest, I didnīt care much for break temps so far. Maybe I should, maybe this gives me shorter braking distances. Usually my brake symbols are blue (too cold). In case of the old Escort there was nothing I could do about it.


Edit: Escort brake temps lead to brake wear but the brake symbols were still green and brakes worked fine, no fading.

Nomad06
16-09-2015, 17:59
Tire temps I try to keep around the 195°f ...all within 3-5°f. So my tires pressures are usually running all different pressures. ..brakes I try to keep and operating temp of 800°~1200°f and adjust my pressure and ducts accordingly.

rocafella1978
16-09-2015, 18:17
posted here similar questions, never really get answers, I think i have tried 3-4x times in the pCARS forum to get clear guidance and facts...none received. (still IMHO believe this is not a very clear issue and no answers available clearly on this topic, even if it was different vehicle to vehicle, there should be some info to work with...)

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?37436-Mechanical-Damages-ON-or-OFF-what-does-it-effect-and-what-NOT-%28-Devs-SMS-WMD%29

(http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?37436-Mechanical-Damages-ON-or-OFF-what-does-it-effect-and-what-NOT-%28-Devs-SMS-WMD%29)

PostBox981
16-09-2015, 18:22
Tire temps I try to keep around the 195°f ...all within 3-5°f. So my tires pressures are usually running all different pressures. ..brakes I try to keep and operating temp of 800°~1200°f and adjust my pressure and ducts accordingly.

What kind of car?

chig88
16-09-2015, 20:59
Ye Chig get your brakes hot in a Formula A around Monza and watch Engineer Ben freak out. It's annoying as hell in a 30 lap race. I use the HUD so I know my lap times and brake temps. I'd like more useful stuff about car critical temps and conditions.

I think mine must be bugged mate. He literally never says anything other than lap time information :(.

Yeah same here. I've toyed with the idea of just turning him off TBH, he's just not useful at the moment. Having him telling me that my lap times are consistent at the end of every lap isn't helping me much :(.