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Beatminister
30-09-2015, 14:59
Hi all!

Now, that we have the ultimate test track for reaching top speeds in all cars, in form of the Test Track Outer Ring, it would be interesting to see the speeds cars have reached.
If there is enough response, I'll try to collect the data here in the first post.
One remark: I know everybody can tell whatever he wants, but please be honest and dont embarass yourself by bragging with fake speeds. This is not a competition!
Two remark: dont rev the engine into the red range. You dont want to wreck it, do you. :)

So I begin with a few I found out:

Kart - 190kph; setup: max tire press., softer steering

SuperKart - 284kph; setup: max tire press., adjusted gears, softer steering

Alpine - 308kph; setup: custom, the usual stuff

Atom 300 - 247kph; setup: custom

Atom 500 - 279kph; setup: custom

Atom Mugen - 238kph;

Aston DBR 1-2 - 350kph; setup: custom: max tyre pressure, no downforce, no camber, low fuel and closed all air ducts

Aston DBR 1/300 - 260kph; highly unstable above 240

Aston Rapide S - 310kph;

Aston V12 GT3 - 291kph;

Aston V8 GT4 - 289kph;

Aston V8 GTE - 308kph;

Audi 90 Q - 314kph;

Audi A1 Q - 253kph;

Audi R18 TDI LMP1 - 334kph; setup: custom, 0 downforce

Audi R18 E-Tron - 327kph;

Audi R8 LMP900 - 329kph;

Audi R8 LMS Ultra - 270kph;

Audi R8 V10+ - 294kph;

BAC Mono - 263kph;

BMW 1 M1 - 295kph; setup: default

BMW 2002t - 203kph; could be more, but gears are too short

BMW 320 TC - 247kph; " "

BMW 320 T Gr.5 - 293kph; " "

BMW M1 ProCar - 307kph;

BMW M3 E30 GrA - 261kph;

BMW M3 GT3 - 303kph;

BMW M3 GT4 - 299kph;

BMW V12 LRM - 344kph;

Bentley Continental GT3 - 285kph;

Bentley Speed8 - 343kph;

Caper Monterey - 340kph; setup: custom, 0 downforce, cooler duct 20%, max pressure

Formula A - 347kph; setup: custom, 0 downforce, brake duct 0%, cooler duct 15%, max tire press., longer gearbox

Ford Mustang GT - 284kph; setup: default

McLaren F1 - 374kph (goes higher if overreved); setup: custom, higher tire pressure

McLaren P1 - 392kph

Merc 300SL - 210kph; setup: default

Pagani Zonda R - 327kph; setup: default

RUF RT12 R - 341 km/h

Sauber C9 - 374 km/h; setup: 0 downforce, gears to max. speed, tires max pressure, brake duct 0, cooler duct 20)

W-Motors Lykan - 340kph; setup: default


So, the McLaren P1 is the fastest so far.


Hope to hear from you all, best regards!

LaLinea555
30-09-2015, 19:50
The highest top speed you have reached? And that covers tuning especially to do so.

Mine is 392 kmh/245 mph with a road car.

Jussi Viljami Karjalainen
30-09-2015, 20:01
Managed 389 km/h in the McLaren F1 road car so far, and doubt I'll even try to beat that since no other road car will match it anyway. =)

LaLinea555
30-09-2015, 20:13
My top speed so far is with a road car ;-) I've edited the original post now.

Beatminister
30-09-2015, 20:38
My top speed so far is with a road car ;-) I've edited the original post now.

392, really? What car was it?

N0body Of The Goat
30-09-2015, 21:09
When achieving these high speeds (on Mojave Test Track?), were you guys able to stay near the top of the banking and do a complete lap of the banking, in both directions?

havocc
30-09-2015, 21:14
390 with C9, 380 with P1, did any1 try 98T? :D

LaLinea555
30-09-2015, 21:24
98T couldnt reach 360 even...

BMW 1 M1 just did 294 no tuning, wow

Not able to use the highest banking yet, looking forward when its fixed, more speed up there.

Dynomight Motorsports
30-09-2015, 22:12
242 mph in the P1. :) Is there anything faster than the McLauren? I was disappointed the Lyken Top speed supposed to be 245 could only do 210.

NuclearPenguin
30-09-2015, 22:27
Nevermind. Finally was able to check and my memory was way off, ha. I had a feeling it was seeing the other speeds.

senn
01-10-2015, 02:25
McLaren P1 392kmh(243.578mph) 219463

maurice-pascale
01-10-2015, 04:52
392 with the P1.....and i also reached 390-91 with the McLaren F1......Mclaren's are beast's!!!!


but hey.....the lykan hypersport got a bug or something.......i just reached 337 TOP SPEED WITH IT.....but it says he can reach 394........on leMan i just always reached 320 with the lykan......someone else noticed that?...couldnt be because i drive over minutes on the mojave with 337 and nothing more ..

Beatminister
01-10-2015, 11:34
The 98T made it to 325, with 0 downforce, I think.
The Lykan managed 340, the fastest I found so far. Didn't try the McLaren P1 yet, only the longtail, which is not so fast. But I will... :)

And no, you cant stay high in the wall for more than a moment, then the bug gets you. I hope this will be adressed soon.

Btw, what direction do you guys normally use? I drive it anti clockwise - old habit, I guess. :)

NemethR
01-10-2015, 11:45
Next patch should include the Bloodhound SSC!

http://enterprisezones.communities.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/bloodhound.jpg

Beatminister
01-10-2015, 11:52
Next patch should include the Bloodhound SSC!

http://enterprisezones.communities.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/bloodhound.jpg

And the salt lake with it? :)

havocc
01-10-2015, 12:00
I want Hennessey venom gt

Jussi Viljami Karjalainen
01-10-2015, 13:19
The 98T made it to 325, with 0 downforce, I think.With just a couple of setup changes the 98T will readily go past 360 km/h. =)

Beatminister
01-10-2015, 13:33
With just a couple of setup changes the 98T will readily go past 360 km/h. =)

I didn`t do much tweeking yet. All I do is set the downforce low, and then I look what the gearbox says to that. I dont rev the engine into the red - mech damage is on.
But sure more could be done, higher tire pressure and so on. IŽll try step by step. The wall bug is a problem at high speeds, since you can go a bit faster when you drive higher in the wall. I hope they fix it soon.

Thomas Sikora
01-10-2015, 14:55
395km/h Sauber C9

Shi
01-10-2015, 15:40
RUF RT12 R - 341 km/h
Sauber C9 - 368 km/h (0 downforce - gears to max. speed)

Beatminister
01-10-2015, 17:01
RUF RT12 R - 341 km/h
Sauber C9 - 368 km/h (0 downforce - gears to max. speed)

Thanks!

You are right - that C9 is fast! 374kph even! And if I could get higher up, I could perhaps get another 5 out of it.

theitalian06
01-10-2015, 20:13
Managed 350kph in the new aston lmp1 with max tyre pressure, no downforce, no camber, low fuel and closed all air ducts completely

Invincible
01-10-2015, 20:22
Thanks!

You are right - that C9 is fast! 374kph even! And if I could get higher up, I could perhaps get another 5 out of it.

I just did 392 in the Sauber - so keep pushing!

Beatminister
01-10-2015, 20:50
I just did 392 in the Sauber - so keep pushing!

Nearly 20 more? Wow, that is wild! I must check that out, but not today anymore. WMD member and german or not... :)

Invincible
01-10-2015, 21:01
Nearly 20 more? Wow, that is wild! I must check that out, but not today anymore. WMD member and german or not... :)

Increase tire pressure by 5 clicks, lower all camber to zero. Gearing as long as possible (don't forget to adjust 5th gear!).
Zero downforce and brake ducts.You should reach 380 within a quarter lap.

Kelderek
01-10-2015, 21:54
392 kph with McLaren P1.
Default setup, no tweaking!

LaLinea555
01-10-2015, 22:39
I laft a bit when suddenly the P1 started to slow down, the battery was flat ;)

I run it counterclockwise, cuz nascar I think...

Ford MkIV does run out the last gear at highest ratio with ease, would be interesting to have higher ratios.

Jussi Viljami Karjalainen
01-10-2015, 23:56
I run it clockwise, because the easiest route to get on it sets you off that way. =)

KANETAKER
02-10-2015, 01:12
340 Km/h with the Peugeot 908 (RWD P30). But I can got 341 on LeMans only behind other car (suction effect).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xApSuRrbRyk

Jussi Viljami Karjalainen
02-10-2015, 02:32
Since when did the RWD P30 have anything to do with the Peugeot 908 though?

bcredeur97
02-10-2015, 02:47
I only got the P1 up to 245... but supposedly my friend got it up to 248... still cant figure out how he did it. unless he's lying lol

N0body Of The Goat
02-10-2015, 07:11
Since when did the RWD P30 have anything to do with the Peugeot 908 though?

Since 0212 this morning, maybe a minute before. ;)

Pappa_Stig
02-10-2015, 07:54
I got 370 out of the Formula A by running no downforce, completely closed brake and rad ducts, max tyre pressure, no camber, no toe, and longer gears. That set up wouldn't work in a race though, it was terrible to drive on anything other than the outer ring lol. Also got 385 out of the Sauber doing the same things, dunno how I would have been able to get an extra 7kph to reach 392, so good job! I managed exactly 392 with the Mclaren P1.

Edit: If the ring was available in MP, people could slipstream in the fastest cars to see just how fast they could get them, would be interesting seeing people pushing the envelope.

ermo
02-10-2015, 07:56
McLaren P1 392kmh(243.578mph) 219463

Clearly a fake. Has no motion blur. (;))


Since when did the RWD P30 have anything to do with the Peugeot 908 though?

*Sshhh*. He's enjoying himself. No need to puncture his happy bubble. :)

Pappa_Stig
02-10-2015, 08:03
Interesting so many people getting 392 out of the P1, I did also. How are people getting over 390 in the Sauber? I managed 385, although I get bored pretty quickly, so maybe the trick is to just keep lapping and hope the speed slowly continues to tick up lol.

MrBlacky
02-10-2015, 08:05
For some odd reason the Formula 1 car does not get faster than 360 (or something like that). Drag is still to high even with no downforce.

N0body Of The Goat
02-10-2015, 08:54
For some odd reason the Formula 1 car does not get faster than 360 (or something like that). Drag is still to high even with no downforce.

But for almost all cars, IIRC, 0/0 wings does not equal zero downforce, it is simply the lowest levels of downforce we can select. ;)

One of the other curent open wheel cars is an exception, IIRC, the Formula C?

Pamellaaa
02-10-2015, 09:17
But for almost all cars, IIRC, 0/0 wings does not equal zero downforce, it is simply the lowest levels of downforce we can select. ;)

One of the other curent open wheel cars is an exception, IIRC, the Formula C?

I think the only car in the game where 0/0 downforce actually translates to no downforce is the BMW 320 TC, I am sure that was what the physics release notes said anyway.

Jussi Viljami Karjalainen
02-10-2015, 11:33
For some odd reason the Formula 1 car does not get faster than 360 (or something like that). Drag is still to high even with no downforce.Even with a minimal downforce aero kit the drag coefficient of F1 cars tends to be massive, near 1 (vs. 0.3 of a modern road car). Contrary to popular belief F1 cars are not aerodynamic in the sense that they have low drag, they're only aerodynamic in the sense that they develop a helluva lot more downforce than drag.

Beatminister
02-10-2015, 13:07
All of the half way modern sports/race cars create downforce under the car. But thats something we cannot influence. If I say 0 downforce, I mean the wings are set as level as possible in the setup. On some cars you cannot even set all wings to 0, on the rear wing 1 is the lowest.
I guess there are some cars that really have no downforce at all, except their own weight. Like the oldest Lotus F1, the Mustang Fastback or the Caterham 7.

Haiden
02-10-2015, 13:27
Downforce is also generated by the rake of the car--how high the back is in relation to the front.

Also, I accidentally found a section of the outer ring where I was able to run the wall for a bit, but only going counterclockwise. Running the spot clockwise, doesn't work. At the end of the clip is where I ran into that invisible sticky glue that pulls you down.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHT4p55qhMs&feature=em-upload_owner

Jussi Viljami Karjalainen
02-10-2015, 13:53
All of the half way modern sports/race cars create downforce under the car. But thats something we cannot influence. If I say 0 downforce, I mean the wings are set as level as possible in the setup. On some cars you cannot even set all wings to 0, on the rear wing 1 is the lowest.
I guess there are some cars that really have no downforce at all, except their own weight. Like the oldest Lotus F1, the Mustang Fastback or the Caterham 7.Race cars, yes, but there are still a ton (likely even the majority) of sports cars that produce lift at high speeds, or only have positive downforce at one end, even at high levels. The Porsche 911 GT3 for example, with the massive wings it has, only produces around around 40-50 kg of downforce at 200 km/h. The 458 Italia evens out, front end lift is about the same as rear end DF (so at high speeds the aero goes towards understeer). For the most part wings on road cars are there to reduce lift rather than give actual downforce.

Beatminister
02-10-2015, 15:21
I accidentally found a section of the outer ring where I was able to run the wall for a bit, but only going counterclockwise. Running the spot clockwise, doesn't work. At the end of the clip is where I ran into that invisible sticky glue that pulls you down.

Yes, you can drive for a bit there, but not for long. If you get closer to the shadow of the barrier, or even into the shadow, it gets you.

@Jussi

For the most part wings on road cars are there to reduce lift rather than give actual downforce.

I think for the most part wings on road cars are there to look cool. :)
At least those that people install themself. But wings or not, I was refering to the ground effect, low down front spoiler and side skirts and a open back end. That can be quiet effective at high speeds.

LaLinea555
02-10-2015, 18:37
I read somewhere long ago, a guy mounted a big spoiler like Fast & Furious GT style on his Civic 2dr, went to take it for a spin on the Nordschleife, the first long straight he heard a small bang, the spoiler penetrated the tailgate....

Jussi Viljami Karjalainen
02-10-2015, 18:42
@Jussi


I think for the most part wings on road cars are there to look cool. :)
At least those that people install themself. But wings or not, I was refering to the ground effect, low down front spoiler and side skirts and a open back end. That can be quiet effective at high speeds.Oh it can, but there are barely any road cars that actually have functional diffusors, or flat floors, or seriously functional splitters. =)

Jussi Viljami Karjalainen
02-10-2015, 18:42
I read somewhere long ago, a guy mounted a big spoiler like Fast & Furious GT style on his Civic 2dr, went to take it for a spin on the Nordschleife, the first long straight he heard a small bang, the spoiler penetrated the tailgate....... He just bolted it on the tailgate? Goddamn idiot...

EDIT: You can buy and install actually functional wings to road cars and accelerate to speeds where they actually do something (though a big wing on an FWD is pointless, it's not the rear end that needs grip in those for the most part), but when you get a wing that actually produces DF it needs to be propped up really damn well. =/

KANETAKER
02-10-2015, 18:55
Since when did the RWD P30 have anything to do with the Peugeot 908 though?

It's a way of promoting the custom skin that I did for the RWD P30 =)

LaLinea555
02-10-2015, 18:58
... He just bolted it on the tailgate? Goddamn idiot...

EDIT: You can buy and install actually functional wings to road cars and accelerate to speeds where they actually do something (though a big wing on an FWD is pointless, it's not the rear end that needs grip in those for the most part), but when you get a wing that actually produces DF it needs to be propped up really damn well. =/

Yeah DF are not needed on road cars, a good setup and descent tyres and it will corner more than you can handle on normal roads...

Beatminister
02-10-2015, 19:35
Yeah DF are not needed on road cars, a good setup and descent tyres and it will corner more than you can handle on normal roads...

On public roads its all pretty useless. Inside the legal speeds you dont need wings or ground effect cars anyway. And even here in Germany, with no speed limits on the motorway, its not needed. I've driven over 200kph plenty of times, in completely normal cars like a Opel Astra Estate, 3 series BMW and so on. They run like on tracks even at 230. And you also dont want to drive around corners with a knife between your teeth - who knows if there isn't a truck parked there, or a old granny.

Low spoilers and skirts are a pain in daily use anyway - you always have to watch out for too high curbstones and stuff that would damage the spoiler, like "sleeping policemen". Very unpractical. But it looks cool... :)

CPU M Rossi
02-10-2015, 20:30
For some odd reason the Formula 1 car does not get faster than 360 (or something like that). Drag is still to high even with no downforce.

I got 233mph/374kph out of the FA car with out kers & 240mph/386kph with kers (edit: using drs also)

here are the changes I made
0 for front & back wing
55mm front ride height 40mm rear ride height
2.00 bars for the tire pressure
stiffened the springs as far as they would go for front & back
bake duct 0%
radiator 30%
diff accel & decel 100%
final drive all the way to the right

Franco Ferrari
02-10-2015, 22:28
Sauber C9
219590

Lotus 98T (pretty low for a 1100+ hp car)
219591

FA with DRS (386 with DRS + KERS while it lasts)
219592

McLaren P1
219593

After the C9 run, I realized that during winter and at night, when the temperature is lower, the air is denser and the engine produces slightly more power, and also the engine doesn't blow as easily from overheating.
I maybe able to reach a couple of km/h higher with the lowest temps in the C9.

Beatminister
03-10-2015, 14:25
Increase tire pressure by 5 clicks, lower all camber to zero. Gearing as long as possible (don't forget to adjust 5th gear!).
Zero downforce and brake ducts.You should reach 380 within a quarter lap.

Strange... tried your settings and cant even get over 370, slower than it was before. With the 5th at longest setting its even slower, because the engine cant pull it anymore. And there is no way it can reach 380 in a quarter lap.
Even tried a Nascar setup (0 camber on the left, -0,2 on the right) - no difference. I'm kinda lost... Would be great if we could exchange setup files between each other. Like ex- and import setups. Well...

Now to the F1... :)

Edit: Some improvement - 347kph with the Formula A - but far from the speeds mentioned here. Perhaps the PC has more power than the PS4? :)

NBRacing16
03-10-2015, 19:26
too bad we cant race on the outer ring it would be a blast to draft other cars going top speed

NBRacing16
03-10-2015, 19:28
I really want to run against the wall with the highest banking but I can only go up about 3/4 of the way before I start to bottom out
I have tried changing my suspension setup but it still seems to bottom out

NBRacing16
03-10-2015, 19:29
I should try night time and see what speeds I can get out of the nascar in the day I only get around 206

madmax2069
03-10-2015, 20:15
I was able to get at least (218Mph) 351kph out of the Caper Monterey

Invincible
03-10-2015, 22:35
Strange... tried your settings and cant even get over 370, slower than it was before. With the 5th at longest setting its even slower, because the engine cant pull it anymore. And there is no way it can reach 380 in a quarter lap.
Even tried a Nascar setup (0 camber on the left, -0,2 on the right) - no difference. I'm kinda lost... Would be great if we could exchange setup files between each other. Like ex- and import setups. Well...

Now to the F1... :)

Edit: Some improvement - 347kph with the Formula A - but far from the speeds mentioned here. Perhaps the PC has more power than the PS4? :)

Have you increased the boost pressure to max too?
Also, I chose thie higher gearing because with the slightly shorter 5th gear, the power peak of ~860 hp is way before the top speed. With every km/h more, power is dropping further and thus keeping you from reaching a higher top speed.

NBRacing16
05-10-2015, 23:33
I was able to get at least (218Mph) 351kph out of the Caper Monterey

How did you get that!!!!
I was only able to get 209mph out of the caper on my best setup
is there different conditions that you ran because you cant run the caper at night cause it has no headlights

VanquishedVantage
06-10-2015, 00:34
I managed 391 km/h in the McLaren F1, it just was stuck at 391 until I slowed down.

Talk about limits.

It's a shame I can't play the game on my PC (it's broken), so I had to go to my friend's house and he has 3 monitors.

It took a while to get used to it.

madmax2069
06-10-2015, 03:29
How did you get that!!!!
I was only able to get 209mph out of the caper on my best setup
is there different conditions that you ran because you cant run the caper at night cause it has no headlights

I improved it to 219MPH. Time was set at 12PM, Oh and BTW they do run at night without headlights on well lit tracks

219775

Bealdor
09-10-2015, 16:09
Eat my dust, slowpokes!!!!

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cluck
09-10-2015, 16:16
pffft, so arcade :p

havocc
09-10-2015, 16:46
pffft, so arcade :p
Simcade

Jussi Viljami Karjalainen
09-10-2015, 17:04
Been there, done that. Seems to be a glitch of some sort, you can be stuck at 388 km/h or so for lap after lap, but sometimes the car kicks up a bit (without seemingly hitting anything on the track), and after that it suddenly starts accelerating to over 390 and eventually over 400 km/h.

Gobymage
14-10-2015, 19:51
Eat my dust, slowpokes!!!!

What do you mean exactly ?

The question of speed is like to play with who has the biggest dick. It is for kids.
I will never play to that stupid game...


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220317



:p

Bealdor
14-10-2015, 20:01
That one doesn't count because you're driving the wrong way. :p

Gobymage
14-10-2015, 20:58
That one doesn't count because you're driving the wrong way. :p

Usually, that is what the one who has the smalest one says ! :rolleyes: