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allana15
13-03-2016, 18:38
I have not used MECHANICAL_FAILURES for I don't know what it does to the car and when.
If anyone using it, can explain what has happen to their car and when. would be appreciated. thanks

TwilightUA
13-03-2016, 18:46
I have not used MECHANICAL_FAILURES for I don't know what it does to the car and when.
If anyone using it, can explain what has happen to their car and when. would be appreciated. thanks

I think "mechanical failure" enables engine failure (blow) and tire failure (puncture).

IJOJOI
13-03-2016, 22:08
I think "mechanical failure" enables engine failure (blow) and tire failure (puncture).

As well as loosing wheels.

So if you activate Mechanical Failures you can end your race with a crash.

hkraft300
13-03-2016, 22:45
Or blow your engine with high boost or high water temp.
Or wear out your brakes.

Ingo_Schwartz
14-03-2016, 10:45
I always play with full damage, makes you more aware of what you are doing because if you crash into another car or go into the wall then the race can be over, specially in formula! So I find it much better to have it on all the time, during practice as well.

Just my preference though, you do what you want to do :)

maxx69
14-03-2016, 10:57
Always have "full damage" and "mechanical failure" on ,like said before, makes you drive more carefully and adds to the realism . I always thought it was engine based failure rather than losing wheels , as i thought that was covered by damage ?
"Puncture" really ? ive put in hundreds of hours in this game , long races, tyres worn completely ....never once witnessed a puncture , has anyone ?

Jussi Viljami Karjalainen
14-03-2016, 11:05
"Puncture" really ? ive put in hundreds of hours in this game , long races, tyres worn completely ....never once witnessed a puncture , has anyone ?Yup, wasn't even that long ago that I punctured my front tyre in a scraping situation (lost pressure etc.). It was barely even worn, so it's not always about that.

maxx69
14-03-2016, 11:17
Yup, wasn't even that long ago that I punctured my front tyre in a scraping situation (lost pressure etc.). It was barely even worn, so it's not always about that.

Is it only a PC feature? I'm on PS4 and strangely looking forward to a blow out :playful:

BigDad
14-03-2016, 11:21
Sometimes i fear a ps4 failure playing this game rather than a tyre failure , lol

Mangoat
14-03-2016, 11:52
First puncture last night - Zhuhai in the 1600 Escort. I don't think it likes the curbs there :)

Jussi Viljami Karjalainen
14-03-2016, 12:03
First puncture last night - Zhuhai in the 1600 Escort. I don't think it likes the curbs there :)IIRC when mine blew out it was in one of the vintage cars as well, possibly a 2002 of some form. Could be the old tyres are more susceptible to it.

maxx69
14-03-2016, 12:16
IIRC when mine blew out it was in one of the vintage cars as well, possibly a 2002 of some form. Could be the old tyres are more susceptible to it.

EXCELLENT have a vintage selection of races planned for Wednesday ......roll on the flats :cool:

maxx69
14-03-2016, 12:18
First puncture last night - Zhuhai in the 1600 Escort. I don't think it likes the curbs there :)

Don't know what's more scary , racing the Escort or a puncture lol

Roger Prynne
14-03-2016, 12:23
I think "mechanical failure" enables engine failure (blow) and tire failure (puncture).

And suspension, gearbox etc.

Sum Dixon-Ear
14-03-2016, 12:44
First puncture last night - Zhuhai in the 1600 Escort. I don't think it likes the curbs there :)

I kept getting what felt like a loose front right wheel on the Escort... 10 races in a row at Silverstone International, wheel wobbling around like nobody's business.

Funny thing is; I had no issues with the car at all until a heavy collision at the first corner of Oulton slammed me into the tyres after the pit exit... and seemed to loosen the front right. Intermittent red flashing on the wheel and somewhat 'interesting' handling. After that, every race resulted in damage to the same wheel/tyre... I don't think the Escort likes very much tbh.... it's a bloody crate.

allana15
14-03-2016, 13:21
I always play with full damage, makes you more aware of what you are doing because if you crash into another car or go into the wall then the race can be over, specially in formula! So I find it much better to have it on all the time, during practice as well.

Just my preference though, you do what you want to do :)

Full Damage is Not the same as Mechanical Failure they are TWO different settings

maxx69
14-03-2016, 13:27
So basically mechanical failure effects mechanical parts of a car ie, suspension,engine and moving parts, whereas, full damage effects aerodynamic areas and bodywork ?
Sounds as if this makes perfect sense

MortICi
14-03-2016, 14:16
Had a puncture/flat yesterday. Ran a 42 lap at Donnington National, Historic Touring (was running the 2002 Turbo) 4 Weather slots (heavy fog, clear, medium cloud, haze) 15x progression and time progression at 20x starting at 11:00.

Damage set to Visual but mechanical failure on.

After first pit at lap 17, went 3 more laps, ran wide on T1, and pfffft, wheel tugs to the left (kinda limp) and the tire starts to turn red, telemetry shows 0.00bar pres. Was good to see :)

maxx69
14-03-2016, 14:45
All the guys stating punctures and blowouts seem to be on PC , can anyone state for fact this feature is also on console ?
Also , I watch a lot of Tony R's races on YouTube. I really like his driving view, is it possible to get this view on console?
He has the camera view just behind the windscreen(almost bonnet cam) and it doesn't seem achievable on console. Someone said if I use a Bluetooth keyboard I can adjust the camera view just like on PC ...how??
I use a keyboard as a button box ....can anyone advise, please

Mangoat
14-03-2016, 15:00
I kept getting what felt like a loose front right wheel on the Escort... 10 races in a row at Silverstone International, wheel wobbling around like nobody's business.

Funny thing is; I had no issues with the car at all until a heavy collision at the first corner of Oulton slammed me into the tyres after the pit exit... and seemed to loosen the front right. Intermittent red flashing on the wheel and somewhat 'interesting' handling. After that, every race resulted in damage to the same wheel/tyre... I don't think the Escort likes very much tbh.... it's a bloody crate.

Same as I experienced - flashing red tyre indicator that the temp went through the roof, over 165 degrees celsius. Handling was obviously a pig after that (more so than normal with the escort). Happened right after a collision too. Do the cars know when the pointy/sharp bits of the other cars are. It does seem to be the historic cars that are suffering - maybe a (realistic?) flaw in the historic tyre model.

Sum Dixon-Ear
14-03-2016, 15:02
All the guys stating punctures and blowouts seem to be on PC , can anyone state for fact this feature is also on console ?
Also , I watch a lot of Tony R's races on YouTube. I really like his driving view, is it possible to get this view on console?
He has the camera view just behind the windscreen(almost bonnet cam) and it doesn't seem achievable on console. Someone said if I use a Bluetooth keyboard I can adjust the camera view just like on PC ...how??
I use a keyboard as a button box ....can anyone advise, please

To control the camera with a keyboad, press Control+k and use the W,S,A,D keys to move the cam... beware though, it cycles through three options. On first press W will raise the camera height, on second press it will move forwards and thirdly it switches the mode off again. The other buttons also switch functions with repeated Control+k presses... things can get in a bit of a pickle if you're not very careful (especially after a bluetooth kb goes to sleep and needs waking up), I've had to do numerous restarts to set the camera back to default after... erm, mishaps!

Mangoat
14-03-2016, 15:04
Don't know what's more scary , racing the Escort or a puncture lol

Have a Historic GT race on Wednesday as well. was going to go with the Escort but now chosen the Merc AMG Battle Tank contraption :)

maxx69
14-03-2016, 15:10
To control the camera with a keyboad, press Control+k and use the W,S,A,D keys to move the cam... beware though, it cycles through three options. On first press W will raise the camera height, on second press it will move forwards and thirdly it switches the mode off again. The other buttons also switch functions with repeated Control+k presses... things can get in a bit of a pickle if you're not very careful (especially after a bluetooth kb goes to sleep and needs waking up), I've had to do numerous restarts to set the camera back to default after... erm, mishaps!

Thanks mate , much appreciated:)

maxx69
14-03-2016, 15:20
Have a Historic GT race on Wednesday as well. was going to go with the Escort but now chosen the Merc AMG Battle Tank contraption :)

You're a brave man, haha , that's a fair beast to tame . Great walnut dash though. Should give the Mustang a run for its money on the straights though. ;)
I haven't fully decided what we're racing yet , I spring out that surprise at the race lobby stage ( evil laughter) .
We also do reversed grids which give excellent racing opportunities, as we have a varied skilled group.
Always looking for new guys and girls to join us if there are any clean PS4 racers looking for some race action on Wednesday nights . Send me "maxx69" a friend request and enter the delicious delights of the Marmite Cup :cool:

Mangoat
14-03-2016, 15:29
On PC or I'd join you and be unstoppable!!!!! (bad brakes you know :))

maxx69
14-03-2016, 15:45
On PC or I'd join you and be unstoppable!!!!! (bad brakes you know :))

Haha , yeah I know that " wow there Nessy " feeling .
I'm in a race forum for PS4 but unfortunately they stopped organising events because of the infamous disconnection issues ....so a few of us went rouge and started a community for clean drivers ( quite hard to find on console)
Good luck in your vintage bus on Wednesday mate :p

Mangoat
14-03-2016, 15:57
Good luck in your vintage bus on Wednesday mate :p

Cheers. I most definitely need it :mask:

Fractured Life
14-03-2016, 16:04
I've had a few Punctures at Brno in the Formula C this week trying to run a longer stint. On Xbox. I think I got a slow puncture too (possible?) as i had the car showing a cooling (turning blue) front left tyre with wear about 75% and pressure dropping along with temperature. Caused the car to pull to one side slowly. with a full puncture it was showing red and pulling much more violently to the side with a tonne of tyre squealing.

Got to have Failures/Damage on otherwise I wouldn't have to think whilst fighting AI or other players. Much faster than them on most tracks at 100%, but usually one or two will jump me at the start and they are fairly tough to pass cleanly so races end up interesting.

Edit: Can you damage the tyres pushing over kerbs?

Konan
14-03-2016, 16:27
All the guys stating punctures and blowouts seem to be on PC , can anyone state for fact this feature is also on console ?
Also , I watch a lot of Tony R's races on YouTube. I really like his driving view, is it possible to get this view on console?
He has the camera view just behind the windscreen(almost bonnet cam) and it doesn't seem achievable on console. Someone said if I use a Bluetooth keyboard I can adjust the camera view just like on PC ...how??
I use a keyboard as a button box ....can anyone advise, please

I've had airo damage followed by a blown engine,suspension damage with as a result the car pulling to the left or right,no punctures as of yet though....wheels lost...very often in formula cars (as is in real life),in other cars it's possible too if the crash is hard enough....
That's about it for failures i think...possibly there are more that i haven't been confronted with yet?
So,that should answer your console question. :cool:

maxx69
14-03-2016, 17:51
I've had airo damage followed by a blown engine,suspension damage with as a result the car pulling to the left or right,no punctures as of yet though....wheels lost...very often in formula cars (as is in real life),in other cars it's possible too if the crash is hard enough....
That's about it for failures i think...possibly there are more that i haven't been confronted with yet?
So,that should answer your console question. :cool:

Yeah I've had all of the above ....lost a wheel in formula C , at the Watkins Glen short chicane, made it to within a meter of the pits and blew the engine.
Like I say I've put in hundreds of hours on this sim, had plenty of crashes etc and yet never had a puncture....that's the question, do people also get punctures/blowouts on Console ? As well as the PC boys

Ingo_Schwartz
14-03-2016, 19:08
Full Damage is Not the same as Mechanical Failure they are TWO different settings

Full damage pretty much implies mechanical failures as well doesn't it ?

That's what I meant...

maxx69
14-03-2016, 20:39
Mechanical = moving parts
Full damage I would presume (as its a seperate option) probably means aerodynamic and bodywork damage .

Jussi Viljami Karjalainen
14-03-2016, 21:15
I usually think of them as "collision damage" and "mechanical damage".

Scuderia Paul
14-03-2016, 21:17
I always play with full damage. It makes sense to play a sim with all possible failure options on.

In all my driving though I've never had a puncture. Maybe it is a PC thing and not console.

allana15
14-03-2016, 21:24
So basically mechanical failure effects mechanical parts of a car ie, suspension,engine and moving parts, whereas, full damage effects aerodynamic areas and bodywork ?
Sounds as if this makes perfect sense

No full Damage is when you hit something or somebody or somebody hits you and your car is damaged. And Mechanical Failure is when somethings breaks because of abuse from driver to hard or just bad luck like getting a flat tire for no good reason.

maxx69
14-03-2016, 22:00
No full Damage is when you hit something or somebody or somebody hits you and your car is damaged. And Mechanical Failure is when somethings breaks because of abuse from driver to hard or just bad luck like getting a flat tire for no good reason.

This is how this all came about ....what flat tyre? seems this is a PC only feature as I don't think any console guys/girls seem to have had this happen .
I want a bloody flat tyre lol .
The whole damage thing doesn't effect me as I have everything set to as real as possible .
I find any races you join online ,racing randoms , if they have these things turned off , you just know you're getting rammed on the first corner.

hkraft300
14-03-2016, 23:52
I've had a flat tyre in an Aston GT4 at Hockenheim GP.
Turn off ABS and lock up your tyres on the rumble strips.
They're robust tyres, but if you're cruising about gently with assists on, don't think it'll happen.
Plus, gotta have mech failure: on.

maxx69
15-03-2016, 00:43
I've had a flat tyre in an Aston GT4 at Hockenheim GP.
Turn off ABS and lock up your tyres on the rumble strips.
They're robust tyres, but if you're cruising about gently with assists on, don't think it'll happen.
Plus, gotta have mech failure: on.

I'm going all out for a blow out :) mission for another day .
"Cruising about gently" ??? With my reputation lol
I'm so enjoying getting the new Aston's ass out , I'm gonna slide it about until is tyres blow up :)

hkraft300
15-03-2016, 00:51
I haven't driven it yet!
You could accelerate tyre wear to 5x or 7x and see how you go.

Rambo_Commando
15-03-2016, 02:13
I'm in my second season driving formula rookies. I have full damage and mech failure set to ON, with X7 tire wear. I have yet to get a puncture or any race ending failure for that matter. I finally saw some AI drivers retire tough.

maxx69
15-03-2016, 07:07
I haven't driven it yet!
You could accelerate tyre wear to 5x or 7x and see how you go.

I recommend having a go in the new Aston ....put a massive grin on my race , you can really flick the tail and it handles so well , you can catch the over steer and power out:) ( smiling like a child in a sweet shop )