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Mikeylcr
28-03-2016, 12:50
Really cheesed of with this game, I bought it ages ago but couldn't get to grips with using a pad, and my G25... well we all know about that. So now I finally have a shiny new G29, used the excellent guides here to set everything up and have had good fun in the Clio's, moved on now to driving the RS1600 Historic at Oulton Park and the and thing keeps double/triple shifting into first and spinning out. It sims like this keeps coming up on the forums and getting denied as an issue. Any ideas apart from mapping different buttons?

BigDad
28-03-2016, 13:28
Nope other than "banned" for saying game is not right .:nevreness:

Mikeylcr
28-03-2016, 13:57
true, I don't necessarily expect a console game to be perfect on release date but having given it nearly a year from when I bought it I would have thought the basics would work.

BigDad
28-03-2016, 14:05
Yeah, but all cars i try all shift well , haven't tried the RS for a while , probably since patch2.0
I drive with auto clutch off using a clutch pedal and with the appropriate shifter per car .
Not sure what is going on in your case .
Off Topic
Just starting to learn Nords in the Cadillac and loving it . 7.09xx best so far, real assists, lol

Mikeylcr
28-03-2016, 14:45
I don't have a shifter at the moment so using paddles for everything, maybe that's the issue?

Mahjik
28-03-2016, 15:02
Are you using auto-clutch with the paddles?

Mikeylcr
29-03-2016, 13:10
I'll check when I get home, I think so, should I or shouldn't I?

Roger Prynne
29-03-2016, 13:34
Yes you should.

RomKnight
29-03-2016, 13:39
well, I always have it off. Why should I have it on? AFAIK in sequential cars it doesn't make a difference and I can just use H the same way. AND, I get the benefit of not letting the cars slow start at the green light - I always use the clutch to get moving.

Umer Ahmad
29-03-2016, 14:14
I use auto-clutch with oaddles and i get occasonal double downshifts (never double upshifts) on my g27

Not sure what to do about it. (I thought controller code was lut in as a safety measurw to prevent this?)

Could be my perception but it seems to happen more in my initial races and subsides in subsequent sessions. (Placebo-risk: HIGH)

MaximusN
29-03-2016, 14:25
I use auto-clutch with oaddles and i get occasonal double downshifts (never double upshifts) on my g27

Not sure what to do about it. (I thought controller code was lut in as a safety measurw to prevent this?)

Could be my perception but it seems to happen more in my initial races and subsides in subsequent sessions. (Placebo-risk: HIGH)

I don't know if it's still a problem right now, but I had it happen on all my three systems during the course of a few weeks(last time a couple of weeks ago). I at first thought it was my friends complaining about there own double clicks, but then it happened to me too(a week later). The thing is, if it happens once it will happen (a lot)more times, in different online sessions. Maybe it would help to restart PCARS(didn't get around to trying, will do next time)? My systems are very different(see sig), only big common denominators are W10+Intel+Nvidia.

RomKnight
29-03-2016, 14:47
Hmm.. can it be something with patch 10? because I didn't even update to it so I can't test.

BUT, now that things are "shaping" to be a regression, I have to say someone in a local forum complained about this last week. He did mention he was on pCARS (don't remember if only happened on pCARS so it could be a coincidence)

Mahjik
29-03-2016, 16:45
On my G25, I do not use auto-clutch and don't have double shifts (up or down). Might be something to try is to not use auto-clutch if you don't have to.

Roger Prynne
29-03-2016, 16:48
Hmmm I'll have to try that.

MaximusN
29-03-2016, 17:02
Hmm.. can it be something with patch 10? because I didn't even update to it so I can't test.

BUT, now that things are "shaping" to be a regression, I have to say someone in a local forum complained about this last week. He did mention he was on pCARS (don't remember if only happened on pCARS so it could be a coincidence)

I certainly noticed it before 10, it could even be 8?

Mikeylcr
29-03-2016, 17:53
Ok just tried again, turning auto clutch off and using the clutch pedal for all gear changes seems fine in the Ford albeit a bit odd using a clutch with paddles, also when I went back to a clio with this setting I couldn't provoke any double shifts where as I definitely had a couple before (not as catastrophic as in the Escort). Of course the down side with this is now if I bin the Clio it stalls and I have to put the clutch in go to 1st and pull off manually, this also happens if you reset with the triangle button. So anyway it seems like the Auto clutch is the issue, I suppose I'll have to stop being so lazy and persist with a manual clutch.

MaximusN
30-03-2016, 08:41
Well that sucks :) Because my brainstincts don't work very well with paddles and clutch combined. It's pretty okay with H-shifter and clutch. Although I hate not having the mechanical feedback a gearbox gives(in a real car) when you don't use the clutch right, it's way(way) worse with paddles....

Mikeylcr
30-03-2016, 09:40
I know what you mean, also I always left foot brake in paddle shift cars so throwing in the clutch operation does mess with my instincts.

MaximusN
30-03-2016, 10:04
I know what you mean, also I always left foot brake in paddle shift cars so throwing in the clutch operation does mess with my instincts.

Exactly that :) 2=2(Two paddles = two pedals). H-shifter = always three. H-shifter with two doesn't work either, I end up mashing the brake for a clutch. :D I admit being a bit autistic...

FS7
31-03-2016, 19:18
I play with DS4, auto-clutch, I've had problems with occasional double downshifts and very rarely double upshifts since I got the game last June, it happened with both DS4 controllers I own and it happened on a bunch of different cars. I've never had this problem in F1 2015, MotoGP 14, or in the SLRE & WRC5 demos, so it must be an issue with the game not the controller.

FS7
26-04-2016, 19:44
Some videos of double upshifting and double/triple downshifting:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmW_aGZlmEo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9HrAeO6Nd4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xinvlGgLB0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVcgOAkQLJ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSi6TXOmML4

FS7
11-05-2016, 14:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS3U9hBbqo4

MaximusN
13-05-2016, 14:09
I switched to manual clutch, but I'm a bit astonished it's still a problem. It shouldn't be so hard to implement a setting like Assetto has for gear-switch debouncing(it prevents hardware caused, unintentional multishifts). If that's coded in a way it acts on the gear shift itself and not the button-press, it would code-wise be impossible to get this kind of behaviour.

cmch15
13-05-2016, 19:06
I thought this issue was long forgotten as I haven't had this at all with my wheel (g29), but whilst playing with the DS4 the other day, had it only a short while into a qualifying session.

Fyi, Auto clutch with pad, manual clutch with the wheel.

2pfspiff
13-05-2016, 21:25
Some videos of double upshifting and double/triple downshifting:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmW_aGZlmEo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9HrAeO6Nd4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xinvlGgLB0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVcgOAkQLJ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSi6TXOmML4

Are you using a controller? If so do you have the shifting mapped to the right stick? I had the same problem with the shifting be mapped to the right stick. Remap it to one of the buttons if you are using the left and right trigger for gas and brake. Should take care of the dou
ble shift.

FS7
13-05-2016, 21:48
Are you using a controller? If so do you have the shifting mapped to the right stick? I had the same problem with the shifting be mapped to the right stick. Remap it to one of the buttons if you are using the left and right trigger for gas and brake. Should take care of the double shift.
I use DS4, auto clutch, triggers for gas/brake, triangle to shift up, square to shift down.
That's the controller setup I've been using since I got the game May last year and the setup I use in all my racing games. I've never had this problem in any other PS4 game, I've had this issue only in PCars with both of my DS4 controllers, so the problem must be the game not the controller.
It's not something that happens on a regular basis, it's very random, but when it happens is a potential race-ender bug.

Gunars Salenieks
15-06-2016, 04:41
Same problem on G 29 video~ 18.25 in PC version game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1p_4eV0kuk

FS7
21-07-2016, 17:03
Any word on a fix for this bug?

Litusgaga
25-09-2017, 07:30
Hello everybody! I'm a newbie in the forum so I apologize if I post something in the wrong section.

I play Project Cars and since Saturday I'm playing Project Cars 2 in PS4 with a Logitech G29 steering wheel. I used to have the really annoying double down shift problem in Project Cars since 3-4 months ago (only with paddle shifts, no problem at all with the gear shift lever). At the beginning I thought it was a steering wheel problem but since it only happened on Project Cars (no problem at all with Dirt Rally. Never.), I saw it wasn't the G29 wheel but the game.

Luckily, I think I've found a solution. At least it has absolutely worked for me. While driving in Project 2 I realised that the problem seemed to disappear if I didn't press the paddle until it touched the rear of the steering wheel. I mean, when you push the paddle, first of all you listen the "click" which means that the sensor is activated, and then there is a margin of 2-3mm until it reaches the back of the steering wheel and it can't go no further. As it seemed that if I stopped pushing the paddle just after the click and not keep pushing avoided the double downshift, I put small pieces of paper (8-9 maybe, just try) between the paddle shift and the steering wheel, glued to the paddle shift with tape in order to "add" thickness to the paddle and reduce its movement as it touches the back of the steering wheel sooner and it stops just after the "click". It is important that the paddle stops right after you listen the "click" of the shifting sensor.

As I'm not sure that I have explained myself clearly I've made a stupid drawing but as I'm a newbie it seems I can't post links for the time being in order to avoid spam. If anyone wants it, just ask.

This solution works perfect for me for the time being. I've been playing in Project 2 lots of hours this weekend and the double shifting didn't appear not a single time. It seems that Project Cars settings are too sensitive and with the wearing of the steering wheel this problem appears. Well, I guess...

I hope it helps!

FInroDz
03-12-2017, 22:00
Still present on project cars 2 :/
I don't understand if it is totally random or there is a cause. Ps4 and g29