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Richard83945
17-05-2016, 14:22
Benchmarks at Tom's Hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-pascal,4572-7.html

rosko
17-05-2016, 15:19
Seems to be capable of dealing with 4k, i have a rift on the way I wonder if it gives significant improvements to vr. I'm tempted to get the 1080 upgraded from my 980ti even though i know deep down i should wait till the 1080 ti.

Andy Rink
17-05-2016, 15:56
Seems to be capable of dealing with 4k, i have a rift on the way I wonder if it gives significant improvements to vr. I'm tempted to get the 1080 upgraded from my 980ti even though i know deep down i should wait till the 1080 ti.

I'd research what if any architecture changes there are. If it is simple clock bump, I'd wait for 1080ti or even the next gen after. but I guess it depends how well your 980ti performs with the rift.

Rofas
17-05-2016, 17:13
http://pclab.pl/art69068-20.html
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/948-27/benchmark-project-cars.html

GTX 1080 looks really good in pcars.

t0daY
17-05-2016, 17:17
Waiting for the hbm2 cards coming out end of this year. Those hybrid cards makes no sense to me... Why should I buy them with gddr5x if I can have a hbm2 gpu in half a year?

Rofas
17-05-2016, 17:27
In the example above, Project Cars is used to demonstrate how while Maxwell was effective of compressing most of the scene (the areas in purple), Pascal’s new algorithms can take things to the next level without any negative impact to image quality.

http://fs5.directupload.net/images/160517/vgzbubla.gif
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/72619-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review-5.html


The new delta compression of Pascal is one reason why it performs so good.

Rofas
17-05-2016, 19:42
Another one: http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/6740/21/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review-de-nieuwe-koning-benchmarks-project-cars

This is insane.

Dorny
17-05-2016, 20:00
Wow when I was first started reading details of the card, I was thinking this is too good to be true, but since seeing the benchmarks, I think its time to dip into my pockets and buy one to upgrade from my GTX670 :D

resmania
18-05-2016, 03:06
@_@ I might get one when Ti version hits the market!!!

Invincible
18-05-2016, 06:21
I will probably get a 1080. It isn't worth it for me to wait for the TI version. The current pricing for the 1080 is already as expensive as the 980ti was - up that by at least 150 € for a 1080TI, which sums up to more than I'm willing to pay for a GPU (roughly 800 - 900 €!).
Also it isn't clear yet if there will be a TI.

Ian Bell
18-05-2016, 08:15
I find it hyper cool that we're being used in so many benchmarks, without integrating a benchmark mode.

Puffpirat
18-05-2016, 08:18
If there won't be a Ti I'll probably skip Pascal all together and wait for Volta. OCed vs OCed the 1080 is about 15-20% faster than a 980Ti on average, I can live with that ;)

Vittorio Rapa
18-05-2016, 08:40
If there won't be a Ti I'll probably skip Pascal all together and wait for Volta. OCed vs OCed the 1080 is about 15-20% faster than a 980Ti on average, I can live with that ;)

It's nice how people will convince themselves of the "poor" 1080 performances, to save some money :P (...i'm not taking fun of it.. I'm doing the same! ).
But the reality is that the 1080 is 25-30% faster notOC vs notOC, it's around 10-15% faster in a OC vs notOC scenario (depending of the OC so it cannot be comparable really), but (and this is what interest everyone, since the custom ones will be the ones chosen by the majority) in a OC vs OC scenario the 1080 OC will be probably more than 30% faster than a 980Ti OC, because it has a much better margin of overclocking (it has the some power cut profile, but the Mhz.. actually the Ghz can scale more before it kicks in!), the drivers optimization (and the dx12) may also have a role in the upcoming future.
The 1080 has a considerable better margin over the 980Ti (and the Titan X), but if we talk about money .. then yes, it would be better to wait for the 1080Ti... the point is that if you want the best, well that's the best, and not by a slight margin we pretend to say. :)
I will probably wait for a 1080Ti then... but it all depends of the upcoming months, when the prices will stabilize (and the weight of my wallet after the Summer).

Invincible
18-05-2016, 09:53
I will probably wait for a 1080Ti then... but it all depends of the upcoming months, when the prices will stabilize (and the weight of my wallet after the Summer).

If AMD Zen is competitive at a similar price as the old FX8350 (180 €), I might have the overhead needed to go for a TI, even though I'm hesitant to spend that much on a GPU. But currently I'm calculating with roughly 350 - 400 € for the Zen Flagship. And with the new MB, RAM and GPU, I'm looking at roughly 1500 €, which will already stress-test my wallet.

DreamsKnight
18-05-2016, 11:06
It's nice how people will convince themselves of the "poor" 1080 performances, to save some money :P (...i'm not taking fun of it.. I'm doing the same! ).
But the reality is that the 1080 is 25-30% faster notOC vs notOC, it's around 10-15% faster in a OC vs notOC scenario (depending of the OC so it cannot be comparable really), but (and this is what interest everyone, since the custom ones will be the ones chosen by the majority) in a OC vs OC scenario the 1080 OC will be probably more than 30% faster than a 980Ti OC, because it has a much better margin of overclocking (it has the some power cut profile, but the Mhz.. actually the Ghz can scale more before it kicks in!), the drivers optimization (and the dx12) may also have a role in the upcoming future.
The 1080 has a considerable better margin over the 980Ti (and the Titan X), but if we talk about money .. then yes, it would be better to wait for the 1080Ti... the point is that if you want the best, well that's the best, and not by a slight margin we pretend to say. :)
I will probably wait for a 1080Ti then... but it all depends of the upcoming months, when the prices will stabilize (and the weight of my wallet after the Summer).

don't forget the 1070, probably they will be slighty better than a 980Ti, for 430€/450€ less than a 980ti itself and half of 1080.

1070 will be for sure the best price/performance

Vittorio Rapa
18-05-2016, 11:15
Indeed, 1070 will be a major hit (as any other mid-level gfx board so far...), but I was talking about those who own a 980Ti already.

Invincible
18-05-2016, 11:17
don't forget the 1070, probably they will be slighty better than a 980Ti, for 430€/450€ less than a 980ti itself and half of 1080.

1070 will be for sure the best price/performance

I doubt that the 1070 will be better than a 980ti. I think it will come close, but stay behind the ti by at least 5%. Maybe the custom designs with OC will be able to get on par with the reference-design 980ti.

Seelenkrank
18-05-2016, 13:40
whats up with the new feature adding triple support into the driver (with SDK for devs)?
i read today all devs work on PCars2 now, so this will not come into PCars1?(even if it its possible).
is there any chance it will build in PCars2 or will PCars2 get triple support from the start?

Invincible
18-05-2016, 14:02
whats up with the new feature adding triple support into the driver (with SDK for devs)?
i read today all devs work on PCars2 now, so this will not come into PCars1?(even if it its possible).
is there any chance it will build in PCars2 or will PCars2 get triple support from the start?

Ian has already said something on this behalf here (http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?46946-The-answer-to-our-multi-monitor-and-VR-dreams&p=1277064&viewfull=1#post1277064)

Seelenkrank
18-05-2016, 14:35
thx for the link, did not read all the threads in the forum all the time ;)
so for PCars1 = no
PCars2 they work on it (?)

Invincible
18-05-2016, 14:49
thx for the link, did not read all the threads in the forum all the time ;)
so for PCars1 = no
PCars2 they work on it (?)

For me it reads more like: the GPU can now do it on its own so it's not necessary anymore to put any efforts for it in pcars 1. For Nvidia at least
But I'm sure that AMD will come up with something similar soon

Silraed
18-05-2016, 15:43
For me it reads more like: the GPU can now do it on its own so it's not necessary anymore to put any efforts for it in pcars 1. For Nvidia at least
But I'm sure that AMD will come up with something similar soon

In my opinion, unless AMD do respond with their own version of driver/hardware side triple screen support then developers should continue to build it into their games.
It would be a cop out and insult to AMD customers to miss out proper triple screen support.

Juhu_0815
18-05-2016, 15:44
For me it reads more like: the GPU can now do it on its own so it's not necessary anymore to put any efforts for it in pcars 1. For Nvidia at least
But I'm sure that AMD will come up with something similar soon

Did you really understand Nvidias feature in a way that without adapting PCars1 we could have proper triple screen support? I didn't get it in this way. I think that adaptations in PCars1 still are required to use the multi display feature of Nvidia.

DreamsKnight
18-05-2016, 16:18
I doubt that the 1070 will be better than a 980ti. I think it will come close, but stay behind the ti by at least 5%. Maybe the custom designs with OC will be able to get on par with the reference-design 980ti.

a beer that it will be 5% better. :)

the 1080 double or more the 970. the 1080 is 30% or more than the Ti. (and with new driver will be also more). i've never seen more than 10/15% between x70 and x80 in nvidia production.

RomKnight
18-05-2016, 16:44
Coming from a 780 the 1070 is already good for me. As long as I'm able to enable AA and keep above 60FPS with current settings i'm sold.

Plus, it'll be quieter and more energy efficient for sure so... win/win.

Seelenkrank
18-05-2016, 16:45
For me it reads more like: the GPU can now do it on its own so it's not necessary anymore to put any efforts for it in pcars 1. For Nvidia at least
But I'm sure that AMD will come up with something similar soon

no its not that easy :/
the devs need the SDK tool to add this (sadly...)
my hopes are that this way more easy to do than the old way... (and because its a feature for VR too we can get it as a "wasteproduct")

rosko
18-05-2016, 21:05
Hoping for some good OC1080 options for september then that will run 4k @ 60 & vr @ 90....maybe who knows.

Benjamin Benichou
19-05-2016, 05:42
Hi guys
I have made my own Benchmark, the goal obtain 60fps in extrem condition with image quality.

My Bench:
Le Mans 24H
31 IA LMP1
Weather: Storm
Jun 2015 / 12H
1 Lap

My game settings:
233280

My pc:
I7 980x 6 cores (3.33GHz OC@4.0GHz)
16 GB DDR3
SLI GTX 780Ti OC (1xPNY+1xGIGABYTE)
Windows 10

Results:
62-63 FPS

:)

I don't need to upgrade, my SLI run like a charm ;D

DreamsKnight
30-05-2016, 15:32
I doubt that the 1070 will be better than a 980ti. I think it will come close, but stay behind the ti by at least 5%. Maybe the custom designs with OC will be able to get on par with the reference-design 980ti.



a beer that it will be 5% better. :)

the 1080 double or more the 970. the 1080 is 30% or more than the Ti. (and with new driver will be also more). i've never seen more than 10/15% between x70 and x80 in nvidia production.

coff coff, someone will offer a beer to me? :D :D :D

233783

Invincible
30-05-2016, 16:01
coff coff, someone will offer a beer to me? :D :D :D

233783

Pcars seems to scale really well on the new pascal cards. Most benchmarks I've seen, the 1070 is slightly behind the 980ti (custom designs).

havocc
30-05-2016, 16:05
Now let's see some DX12 stuff :rolleyes:

Puffpirat
30-05-2016, 16:22
Nice video showing the overclocking capabilities of the most important cards (1070/1080/980Ti). Seems Pascal isn't that good of an overclocker. Yes 2GHz sound great but coming from 1.6GHz base clock that's really not that much compared to the 1.5GHz the 980Ti does coming from 1075MHz base clock (about 25% vs. 40% increase). (Vittorio I wasn't too wrong with my 20% ;))


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMr7grvBljk

Oh and havocc, the guru3D review (http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-review,1.html) includes three DX12 benchmarks.

Invincible
30-05-2016, 17:13
Nice video showing the overclocking capabilities of the most important cards (1070/1080/980Ti). Seems Pascal isn't that good of an overclocker. Yes 2GHz sound great but coming from 1.6GHz base clock that's really not that much compared to the 1.5GHz the 980Ti does coming from 1075MHz base clock (about 25% vs. 40% increase). (Vittorio I wasn't too wrong with my 20% ;))


I think we'll see much better oc capabilities with the custom designs. At least the 1080 is limited by the power converters.

Puffpirat
30-05-2016, 18:03
I think we'll see much better oc capabilities with the custom designs. At least the 1080 is limited by the power converters.I don't think they will change much. Like with the previous generations. The 980Ti reference cards did 1450-1500 MHz on air and that's exactly what my oh-so-fancy MSI card does. The only difference being that it is running cooler.

On PCGHX they tried volt modding with external boards and what not, still they where very underwhelmed because they hit walls everywhere. I'm just being realistic really, it's not like I'm making uneducated guesses. But yeah, won't be too long until the custom cards hit the reviewers. And my estimation and the benchmarks compare ref vs. ref. So that argument is really out the window.

Don't get me wrong, the cards are somewhat nice and all, but one year after the 980Ti a boost of 20% for even more money? Don't even want to know what the 1080Ti will cost. It's time AMD lands a hit!

Invincible
30-05-2016, 18:16
Well if AMD beats the 1080 Gtx this year at the same or lower pricing and if they finally manage to update their drivers more regularly, then they will get my money.
I'll wait until October / November. If they haven't shown anything faster than the 1080 then, I will go for Nvidia again.

Vittorio Rapa
30-05-2016, 18:36
That's a way too many "if"...

mw98
30-05-2016, 20:54
Project Cars in 1440p-resolution on a GTX 1080 Founders Edition with Ultra settings in rainy conditions at Spa-Francorchamps (SMAA - high; other AA-options turned off; everything else on ultra): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3pAJHq1ISg
Runs pretty well in my opinion, framerate never falls below 65fps...

Tim Foster
30-05-2016, 21:22
Any chance you SMS guys might have a look at the new VR capabilities of the Pascal cards?

With the simultaneous multi-projection potentially doubling fps, it could shoot frame-rates up into the stratosphere, and really make a difference between the 980Ti and 1070 cards (let alone the 1080).

Edit: Here's a link to the SDK to, errr, get you going:

https://developer.nvidia.com/vrworks

:)

Puffpirat
01-06-2016, 15:18
1080 custom design review rolled in: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-gtx-1080-gaming-x-8g-review.html

Like with previous generations, it does run cooler, but it doesn't overclock better. Nice card really, but boy they run for 750-800€ :eek:

Tim Foster
02-06-2016, 16:38
1070 looks like a great card for Project CARS as well:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-pascal-performance,review-33567-4.html

PostBox981
02-06-2016, 18:01
Hi guys
I have made my own Benchmark, the goal obtain 60fps in extrem condition with image quality.

My Bench:
Le Mans 24H
31 IA LMP1
Weather: Storm
Jun 2015 / 12H
1 Lap

My game settings:


My pc:
I7 980x 6 cores (3.33GHz OC@4.0GHz)
16 GB DDR3
SLI GTX 780Ti OC (1xPNY+1xGIGABYTE)
Windows 10

Results:
62-63 FPS

:)

I don't need to upgrade, my SLI run like a charm ;D

I did very much the same a while ago: saved a replay @Le Mans in thunderstorm with many AI on the track, as I thought it would be a good idea to have a very demanding scenery. Updating my gpu setup from GTX970 to 2x GTX970 SLI didn´t change much fps-wise. Took me a while to find that my CPU was the limiting factor. Esp. rainy weather and many AI are producing a lot of CPU load.

Just saying. You have to be careful with any self made benchmarks. :)

EDIT: My GPU update worked very well though, it just didn´t add much in that CPU-heavy scenery.
I think I will go for a 1080 soon. Though it is quite weird to spend more money on a GPU than other people pay for a complete computer...

MAILERS
03-06-2016, 16:55
I can run 4k at a solid 60 with x30 cars & no rain. I have grass & motion blur turned off, reflections, environment map & shadows on medium. Anti-aliasing turned to MSAA & its looks absolutely stunning running on the 1080. Reduce field to x20 & turn AA off & it runs at 60 fps in all weather conditions.

VFX Pro
04-06-2016, 03:55
It would be mega cool, if PCars would get a small update/patch to support the new 1000 series Multi-projects for a triple monitor setup where the angle of the monitors are correctly reflected. Any chance of that??? I would make the news :)

Ian Bell
04-06-2016, 06:11
It would be mega cool, if PCars would get a small update/patch to support the new 1000 series Multi-projects for a triple monitor setup where the angle of the monitors are correctly reflected. Any chance of that??? I would make the news :)

Yes.

Juhu_0815
04-06-2016, 08:45
It would be mega cool, if PCars would get a small update/patch to support the new 1000 series Multi-projects for a triple monitor setup where the angle of the monitors are correctly reflected. Any chance of that??? I would make the news :)

Yes, this would be great!

DreamsKnight
04-06-2016, 11:21
Yes.

:O

:O

Kroegtijgertje
04-06-2016, 12:25
Yes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTzel96omOM