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DUMBUNNY360
29-05-2016, 17:10
What happened to this content?
http://www.wmdportal.com/projectnews/experience-the-indianapolis-500-in-project-cars/

I thought we were going to be able to experience the Indy 500 in PCars as stated in this May 23,2014 post. Did we somehow lose the license agreement?

FS7
29-05-2016, 17:11
Issues with AI.

DUMBUNNY360
29-05-2016, 17:17
There are issues with the AI on all the tracks.

Mahjik
29-05-2016, 17:53
There were no specifics provided by SMS other than issues with AI and oval based racing. There was a thread open up back in the December time frame where Ian did a Q&A session with the forum:

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?43313-Questions-and-answers-in-here

You can find some of the discussion there.

Alan Dallas
30-05-2016, 06:13
What happened to this content?
http://www.wmdportal.com/projectnews/experience-the-indianapolis-500-in-project-cars/

I thought we were going to be able to experience the Indy 500 in PCars as stated in this May 23,2014 post. Did we somehow lose the license agreement?
AI issue's aside. I still prefer rF2 for running Indy 500 races... like I did after the real race ended today. :D

robertedell
31-05-2016, 19:02
All during yesterdays race I was wishing I could race Indy with project cars, well at least I could run Monaco (Azure Circuit) and I did numerous laps, lots of fun!

Still I would like to run 230 mph, I feel the need for speed that only those high speed ovals can give, no pesky slowing down to a crawl for tight corners just pure speed. Nothing like high speed.


Pcars is great, just not for ovals. I guess I need to look around elsewhere.

Raven403
31-05-2016, 19:14
What happened to having "...access to all the drivers of the 2015 season" tho?

ONT
31-05-2016, 19:16
All during yesterdays race I was wishing I could race Indy with project cars, well at least I could run Monaco (Azure Circuit) and I did numerous laps, lots of fun!

Still I would like to run 230 mph, I feel the need for speed that only those high speed ovals can give, no pesky slowing down to a crawl for tight corners just pure speed. Nothing like high speed.


Pcars is great, just not for ovals. I guess I need to look around elsewhere.


I'll mess with You a little and say the Indy track was really good during end of development (the "pagoda" building was a little messed up, short end facing track, an easy fix) :cool:





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McGBGYqsarI

Konan
31-05-2016, 19:17
The thing is SMS really wanted to implement ovals...the problem (as already stated)was the AI and the difficulty of making them work in close racing without having them drive on rails...
The second solution was to exclude the AI and make ovals available online only but this wasn't good enough for the license holders who wanted only the "full experience"
Everything possible was done(within reason) to implement them in the game...

ONT
31-05-2016, 19:26
The track selection also did not make it easy for SMS.

Including SUPER-SPEEDWAY tracks like Daytona where purposbuilt cars for DRIFT-racing and restrictor plate are used.

A totally different type of racing then SHORT or SPEEDWAY ( 2 compleatly different set's of AI behavior needed) .



SHORT TRACK

An oval racetrack that is less than 1 mile in length.

Bristol
Dover
Martinsville
Phoenix
Richmond


INTERMEDIATE TRACK

An oval that is greater than 1 mile in length, but less than 2 miles in length.

Atlanta
Charlotte
Chicagoland
Darlington
Homestead
Kansas
Kentucky
Las Vegas
New Hampshire
Texas



SUPERSPEEDWAY

A racetrack that is greater than 2 miles in length.

Daytona
Fontana
Indianapolis
Michigan
Pocono
Talladega



ROAD COURSE

A racing circuit comprised of left- and right-hand turns, as opposed to an oval which is comprised exclusively of left-hand turns.

Infineon
Watkins Glen

Mahjik
31-05-2016, 22:43
The track selection also did not make it easy for SMS.

Just to be clear, there was never a license for a full season of Indycar. It was only for the car and the Indy 500 "event".

MillsLayne
31-05-2016, 23:26
The track selection also did not make it easy for SMS.

Including SUPER-SPEEDWAY tracks like Daytona where purposbuilt cars for DRIFT-racing and restrictor plate are used.

A totally different type of racing then SHORT or SPEEDWAY ( 2 compleatly different set's of AI behavior needed).

Something that is lost on a lot of people that think all oval racing is is turning left. All ovals are approached differently, and I'm sure the AI, to be done realistically, was a huge challenge.

DUMBUNNY360
31-05-2016, 23:56
It didn't stop turn 10 from releasing their version. Their AI is not realistic!! I would rather they release it with bugs than not at all. The rest of the game has problems.

CPU M Rossi
01-06-2016, 01:38
It did stop turn 10 from releasing their version. Their AI is not realistic!! I would rather they release it with bugs than not at all. The rest of the game has problems.

the only problem I saw with the ai in Forza was them braking in cars on Indy that didnt need to slow down and could go flat out all the way around the track which is why I race VW Beetles or Smart Cars around Indy with ai cars so they don't get fast enough to feel like they need to brake

David McKenna
01-06-2016, 08:15
Be nice to still have the cars even if the AI dont work, be nice to have the tracks just to test drive/practice on.

Raven403
01-06-2016, 11:30
Just to be clear, there was never a license for a full season of Indycar. It was only for the car and the Indy 500 "event".

Still doesn't explain the omission of the official liveries from "all 2015 drivers" If there was a license for it why was it never released as at least a livery pack? Last I saw SMS was "Still in talks with some teams" regarding the official liveries, which means they never actually HAD the license for all of them. Am I wrong? Considering the DW12 we got was from 2 years ago, I don't see why it would be that complicated to get 2 year old liveries.

I get the reasons Ovals were left out, but I don't see a reason the official liveries couldn't be added/released. Unless they were never really in the cards in the first place, which is NOT what was said in that blurb on WMD.....

Mahjik
01-06-2016, 13:30
Still doesn't explain the omission of the official liveries from "all 2015 drivers"

Wasn't suppose to. I'm not sure how you got anything out of what I posted that was even related to your comment. My post was in the response to ONT listing all of the Indycar tracks.


Last I saw SMS was "Still in talks with some teams" regarding the official liveries

I'm not sure where you saw that... Was it from an actual SMS staff member? FWIW, I have no idea where things were at with "official liveries". I'm not sure anyone who isn't directly working for SMS has any information on the Indycar liveries.

Raven403
01-06-2016, 15:45
Wasn't suppose to. I'm not sure how you got anything out of what I posted that was even related to your comment. My post was in the response to ONT listing all of the Indycar tracks.



I'm not sure where you saw that... Was it from an actual SMS staff member? FWIW, I have no idea where things were at with "official liveries". I'm not sure anyone who isn't directly working for SMS has any information on the Indycar liveries.

Little touchy aren't we? I obviously realize your response was directed at ONT, I know that because I saw the quote in your response.......

And the liveries talk came from the Project Cars Instagram account, so now tell me the person that runs that isn't in the "Know" and not an SMS employee, if that's the case it seems there's still mixed messages getting thrown around

Mahjik
01-06-2016, 15:49
Little touchy aren't we? I obviously realize your response was directed at ONT, I know that because I saw the quote in your response.......

I'm not touchy. You said my post didn't answer something. It was never intended to so why would you then inquiry why it should have? Don't take my response as touchy. Instead, think about why you chose to quote my post and expect something more than what it was about.


And the liveries talk came from the Project Cars Instagram account, so now tell me the person that runs that isn't in the "Know" and not an SMS employee, if that's the case it seems there's still mixed messages getting thrown around

If you can provide a screenshot or direct link to it, I can post an inquiry and see if the moderators can get a response.

Raven403
01-06-2016, 15:53
I'm not touchy. You said my post didn't answer something. It was never intended to so why would you then inquiry why it should have? Don't take my response as touchy. Instead, think about why you chose to quote my post and expect something more than what it was about.



If you can provide a screenshot or direct link to it, I can post an inquiry and see if the moderators can get a response.

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DreamsKnight
01-06-2016, 16:10
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my english is bad, but here i don't read "there will be official liveries for sure"


beyond that I have yet to figure out the fetishism for some things totally unnecessary, like official liveries (i don't see the car driving, and i don't care to be another one in a sim. we can speak about personal livery, this could be something incredible) or pit crew in a automatic pit stop. and i'm writing this cause i see people only talking about these things citing the huge cars project problems. i don't forget ovals, but at the end the problem is license, exactly like damage model limited by mercedes. no one speaks about damage model.

Konan
01-06-2016, 16:28
There's really not more to say about the damage model other than restricted by manufacrurers...
Almost all the things you mentioned are restricted by one thing or another...not by SMS'S unwill to execute them...
I'm just reacting to your post to clarify...no critiscism at you because i understand what you mean...

DreamsKnight
01-06-2016, 16:33
There's really not more to say about the damage model other than restricted by manufacrurers...
Almost all the things you mentioned are restricted by one thing or another...not by SMS'S unwill to execute them...
I'm just quoting your post to clarify...no critiscism at you because i understand what you mean...

yeah. love you.

ah, the manual pit stop: not possible for pegi 3.

and we want talk about how many things are cutted to run this game on consoles? never declared, but there are a lot of things that are obviuos.

NemethR
01-06-2016, 16:34
I am still wondering, if the Ovals are not coming, why is this still up:

http://www.wmdportal.com/projectnews/experience-the-indianapolis-500-in-project-cars/

Someone might read into it, that they are still coming, and purchase the game based on this information - as did many already btw.

DreamsKnight
01-06-2016, 16:42
I am still wondering, if the Ovals are not coming, why is this still up:

http://www.wmdportal.com/projectnews/experience-the-indianapolis-500-in-project-cars/

Someone might read into it, that they are still coming, and purchase the game based on this information - as did many already btw.

only a stupid can read an old info of 2014 instead the official track list inside the game site.

http://www.projectcarsgame.com/locations.html

NemethR
01-06-2016, 16:45
only a stupid can read an old info of 2014 instead the official track list inside the game site.

http://www.projectcarsgame.com/locations.html

Because only a stupid uses google...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=indianapolis+coming+to+project+cars

Konan
01-06-2016, 17:03
I am still wondering, if the Ovals are not coming, why is this still up:

http://www.wmdportal.com/projectnews/experience-the-indianapolis-500-in-project-cars/

Someone might read into it, that they are still coming, and purchase the game based on this information - as did many already btw.

I'm sure the world by now knows there are no ovals in this game...

DreamsKnight
01-06-2016, 17:09
Because only a stupid uses google...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=indianapolis+coming+to+project+cars

i use this keywords to search info about a game. using google!

https://www.google.it/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=indianapolis+coming+to+project+cars&gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=gBZPV9ClBsTaUfzXo_AH#pws=0&q=project+cars+website

https://www.google.it/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=indianapolis+coming+to+project+cars&gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=gBZPV9ClBsTaUfzXo_AH#pws=0&q=project+cars+track+list

NemethR
01-06-2016, 17:11
I'm sure the world by now knows there are no ovals in this game...

But they are coming, at least according to this site.
- At least that is the only official statement I have found about Indianapolis.
No info on the official website, that it is not coming.

NemethR
01-06-2016, 17:15
i use this keywords to search info about a game. using google!

https://www.google.it/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=indianapolis+coming+to+project+cars&gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=gBZPV9ClBsTaUfzXo_AH#pws=0&q=project+cars+website

https://www.google.it/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=indianapolis+coming+to+project+cars&gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=gBZPV9ClBsTaUfzXo_AH#pws=0&q=project+cars+track+list

Look at this:

Indianapolis cancelled for project cars
https://www.google.hu/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Indianapolis+cancelled+for+project+cars


1.) Project CARS bringing realistic Dallara IR-12 to racing simulator

2.) Experience The Indianapolis 500 in Project CARS – WMD Portal

3.) Project CARS 2 coming next June | Pretend Race Cars

VIDEO - Project CARS Onboard - (Ultra Settings) NASCAR @ Indianapolis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McGBGYqsarI

VIDEO - Project Cars Indianapolis Motor Speedway - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Sc-JMCpbE

VIDEO - Project Cars - Stock Car - Indianapolis - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psaKIuNn0YM


And some more:

Project CARS on Twitter: "Announcing… the Indianapolis 500 comes ...

Dallara IR-12 Hitting Project CARS on March 1




NOT one official statement in the top 10 saying it has been cancelled, or that it is not coming.

I am just saying, that the lack of info about the cancelled ovals is not so good.
Yet there are a lot of infos about Indy coming to Project cars.

DreamsKnight
01-06-2016, 17:23
Look at this:

Indianapolis cancelled for project cars
https://www.google.hu/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Indianapolis+cancelled+for+project+cars

yes, the third link, the one above the one you like, give exhaustive answers.

in my world: official track list wins above everything. we can speak about fried air for years, but there is an official track list without indy 500, and an official forum

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/search.php?searchid=10266712

in italy we call your attitude "climb the mirrors".

Bealdor
01-06-2016, 17:25
Give it a rest already Nemeth.
This is the umpteenth time you're bringing this age old WMD page up and no matter how often you continue to try to stir things up with this it will not change a single thing.

Get over it.

NemethR
01-06-2016, 17:29
Give it a rest already Nemeth.
This is the umpteenth time you're bringing this age old WMD page up and no matter how often you continue to try to stir things up with this it will not change a single thing.

Get over it.

Why not take it down, or state clearly on that site too, that they are not coming.

Cool they are not, I am fine with it - no i am not, but that's it.
Yet why not take this page down then?

DreamsKnight
01-06-2016, 17:35
Why not take it down, or state clearly on that site too, that they are not coming.

Cool they are not, I am fine with it - no i am not, but that's it.
Yet why not take this page down then?

if you don't consider the official forum, with about 500 topics about ovals, an official statement, your complain inside here is equally useless. note: I'm approaching it exactly with your parameters.

so you can consider the only official solution: write a mail info@slightlymadstudios.com

NemethR
01-06-2016, 17:38
if you don't consider the official forum, with about 500 topics about ovals, an official statement, your complain inside here is equally useless. note: I'm approaching it exactly with your parameters.

so you can consider the only official solution: write a mail info@slightlymadstudios.com

I consider it official, if it is on the official website.
Sorry guys Indianapolis is not coming.

The only info on any Official site (forum not counted - as it is not a source of official info) is the WMD site saying Indianapolis is coming.

All I am trying to point out is: Take that webpage down if it is not coming, or state it is not coming.

DreamsKnight
01-06-2016, 17:55
I consider it official, if it is on the official website.
Sorry guys Indianapolis is not coming.

The only info on any Official site (forum not counted - as it is not a source of official info) is the WMD site saying Indianapolis is coming.

All I am trying to point out is: Take that webpage down if it is not coming, or state it is not coming.

ian bell posts are not official. good.

You're boring me. the mirrors are broken, you've exhausted arguments about 7 posts ago.

I close the speech for respect to bealdor.

Raven403
01-06-2016, 17:59
my english is bad, but here i don't read "there will be official liveries for sure"


beyond that I have yet to figure out the fetishism for some things totally unnecessary, like official liveries (i don't see the car driving, and i don't care to be another one in a sim. we can speak about personal livery, this could be something incredible) or pit crew in a automatic pit stop. and i'm writing this cause i see people only talking about these things citing the huge cars project problems. i don't forget ovals, but at the end the problem is license, exactly like damage model limited by mercedes. no one speaks about damage model.


Its not there because that's not where it was said.

It was said in the WMD blurb about the Indy 500 and being able to access 'All drivers from the 2015 roster' which is why I asked whatever happened to THAT content. The ovals were scrapped yes, but if they had the license for the drivers liveries I don't see why those got scrapped as well. That's what I asked and I posted the screenshot as per Mahjiks request, try to keep up.

You don't want official liveries that's fine, I don't normally care but I would like them in the game if it was a possibility. And no where did I "cite" major problems with Project Cars....

No one is talking about the Damage model because that's been discussed and answered, so why bother...

DreamsKnight
01-06-2016, 18:08
Its not there because that's not where it was said.

It was said in the WMD blurb about the Indy 500 and being able to access 'All drivers from the 2015 roster' which is why I asked whatever happened to THAT content. The ovals were scrapped yes, but if they had the license for the drivers liveries I don't see why those got scrapped as well. That's what I asked and I posted the screenshot as per Mahjiks request, try to keep up.

You don't want official liveries that's fine, I don't normally care but I would like them in the game if it was a possibility. And no where did I "cite" major problems with Project Cars....

No one is talking about the Damage model because that's been discussed and answered, so why bother...

raven, i think is logic: the car is licensed by dallara. track and liveries are licensed by the "indy 500 league" (<-- sorry , i don't know the name.) why to pay to do textures with official sponsor in a car without the track? it sounds stupid to me.


"hey Mr cocacola! i'll pay you a billion of dollars if you allow me to put a sticker with a logo in my car." I will not do it.

the second part is general, about all the people who complain about this thing. konan understood very well my words, so try to keep up also you. :D (keep up, i like this. Thanks for teaching me new words in English. :D )

Watkinsglen151515
01-06-2016, 18:15
raven, i think is logic: the car is licensed by dallara. track and liveries are licensed by the "indy 500 league" (<-- sorry , i don't know the name.) why to pay to do textures with official sponsor in a car without the track? it sounds stupid to me.


"hey Mr cocacola! i'll pay you a billion of dollars if you allow me to put a sticker with a logo in my car." I will not do it.

the second part is general, about all the people who complain about this thing. konan understood very well my words, so try to keep up also you. :D (keep up, i like this. Thanks for teaching me new words in English. :D )

- IMS is owned by the Hulman George family, they own the rights.

- Most American ovals are owned by either International Speedway Corporation or Speedway Motorsports INC. (Pocono and Dover are privately owned)

- The rights to the liveries are owned by the teams not IndyCar.

Raven403
01-06-2016, 18:23
raven, i think is logic: the car is licensed by dallara. track and liveries are licensed by the "indy 500 league" (<-- sorry , i don't know the name.) why to pay to do textures with official sponsor in a car without the track? it sounds stupid to me.


"hey Mr cocacola! i'll pay you a billion of dollars if you allow me to put a sticker with a logo in my car." I will not do it.

the second part is general, about all the people who complain about this thing. konan understood very well my words, so try to keep up also you. :D (keep up, i like this. Thanks for teaching me new words in English. :D )

I fully realize the Liveries are owned by the Teams, what are you not understanding about my query?

Im not the one who said "we should have official liveries" it was said by SMS in that Blurb "have access to all 2015 drivers" my question is what does that mean exactly then? Official liveries WERE on the table and that was said both on here and in that Instagram comment. They were talking to teams about them, so obviously they were part of the plan. I simply asked why they were scrapped as well, or if they even HAD them to begin with, or if it was just a case of wishful thinking and promising things they had no guarantee to deliver on. Why that's so hard for you to understand im not sure. But by all means keep posting passive aggressive comments with dumbass emojis to continue your confusion.

Watkinsglen151515
01-06-2016, 18:28
I fully realize the Liveries are owned by the Teams, what are you not understanding about my query?

Im not the one who said "we should have official liveries" it was said by SMS in that Blurb "have access to all 2015 drivers" my question is what does that mean exactly then? Official liveries WERE on the table and that was said both on here and in that Instagram comment. They were talking to teams about them, so obviously they were part of the plan. I simply asked why they were scrapped as well, or if they even HAD them to begin with, or if it was just a case of wishful thinking and promising things they had no guarantee to deliver on. Why that's so hard for you to understand im not sure. But by all means keep posting passive aggressive comments with dumbass emojis to continue your confusion.

Raven,
I see exactly where you are coming from. All signs pointed towards having official liveries. I understand the ovals not being in PC1 but there was never a real explanation on why the official liveries were not included. It is a very simple and reasonable question.

Raven403
01-06-2016, 18:31
Raven,
I see exactly where you are coming from. All signs pointed towards having official liveries. I understand the ovals not being in PC1 but there was never a real explanation on why the official liveries were not included. It is a very simple and reasonable question.

Yeah that's all I really wanted to know. I asked a few times back when it was coming out, but all I got was "maybe, its still unconfirmed" stuff so I let it go. I saw Hinchcliff's livery in the game so I thought that was a good sign we might get a few more. Would've been cool but mostly I was just curious as to why the liveries would've gotten scrapped as well, It could very well be that once Indy went bust the teams pulled out of their commitments as well, def. a possibility but I would rather hear it from a somewhat official source,

TBH You can get better resolution versions of them from the custom livery section so its not the end of the world, but you cant use them online and all that

Watkinsglen151515
01-06-2016, 18:34
Yeah that's all I really wanted to know. I asked a few times back when it was coming out, but all I got was "maybe, its still unconfirmed" stuff so I let it go. I saw Hinchcliff's livery in the game so I thought that was a good sign we might get a few more. Would've been cool but mostly I was just curious as to why the liveries would've gotten scrapped as well, It could very well be that once Indy went bust the teams pulled out of their commitments as well, def. a possibility but I would rather hear it from a somewhat official source,

TBH You can get better resolution versions of them from the custom livery section so its not the end of the world, but you cant use them online and all that

I play on the PS4 so I don`t have any custom liveries. The Hinchcliffe livery is fantastic, thats why I have been hoping for more.

Raven403
01-06-2016, 18:35
I play on the PS4 so I don`t have any custom liveries. The Hinchcliffe livery is fantastic, thats why I have been hoping for more.

Right, well there you go, on Console you don't even have the option, so Im sure it would appeal to players on both PS4 and Xbox. TBH I kinda figured there would be a livery pack with a few officials packed in, but that never happened so. Who knows

DreamsKnight
01-06-2016, 18:46
I fully realize the Liveries are owned by the Teams, what are you not understanding about my query?

Im not the one who said "we should have official liveries" it was said by SMS in that Blurb "have access to all 2015 drivers" my question is what does that mean exactly then? Official liveries WERE on the table and that was said both on here and in that Instagram comment. They were talking to teams about them, so obviously they were part of the plan. I simply asked why they were scrapped as well, or if they even HAD them to begin with, or if it was just a case of wishful thinking and promising things they had no guarantee to deliver on. Why that's so hard for you to understand im not sure. But by all means keep posting passive aggressive comments with dumbass emojis to continue your confusion.

i wrote it, i'll try to do again.

sms have to pay licences for liveries. at this point liveries don't add nothing to the game. they could have put the liveries with the indy 500 track to replicate the full event. no track, no liveries, no money spent, less work.

it seems so simple and obvious to me, that i find very useless to talk about it.

ps: the only one aggressive here is you vs me. imho.

Raven403
01-06-2016, 19:03
i wrote it, i'll try to do again.

sms have to pay licences for liveries. at this point liveries don't add nothing to the game. they could have put the liveries with the indy 500 track to replicate the full event. no track, no liveries, no money spent, less work.

it seems so simple and obvious to me, that i find very useless to talk about it.

ps: the only one aggressive here is you vs me. imho.

Yet here we are.

And yeah, It does make sense that they wouldn't pursue any liveries after Indy was scrapped, but that also means they never had them in the first place, which is not how it was presented, hence my question. IM perfectly capable of working it out for myself, and its possible that's how it was, but then it was just another example of them getting ahead of themselves. Like I said, i'd rather hear it from someone with actual knowledge of the situation.

DreamsKnight
01-06-2016, 19:08
Yet here we are.

And yeah, It does make sense that they wouldn't pursue any liveries after Indy was scrapped, but that also means they never had them in the first place, which is not how it was presented, hence my question. IM perfectly capable of working it out for myself, and its possible that's how it was, but then it was just another example of them getting ahead of themselves. Like I said, i'd rather hear it from someone with actual knowledge of the situation.

I simply do not understand the need to see the rot at all "maybe" written by sms. and do not understand why you (all) do a matter of life or death about any "maybe".

i take my life easier.

Raven403
01-06-2016, 19:13
I simply do not understand the need to see the rot at all "maybe" written by sms. and do not understand why you (all) do a matter of life or death about any "maybe".

i take my life easier.

Its not a matter of life and death at all. its almost meaningless, compared to things in other aspects of my life. But this is a forum for a specific game and details/questions as it pertains to THIS game, so that's what Im using the forum and this thread for. I will not lose any sleep over anything that happens here. A question was asked, and I wait to see if theres an answer to be had, that's about as complicated as it gets. Done now because this is ridiculous to continue

Mahjik
01-06-2016, 19:16
....

Thanks. No guarantees on a response, but I'll make the inquiry.

DreamsKnight
01-06-2016, 19:24
Its not a matter of life and death at all. its almost meaningless, compared to things in other aspects of my life. But this is a forum for a specific game and details/questions as it pertains to THIS game, so that's what Im using the forum and this thread for. I will not lose any sleep over anything that happens here. A question was asked, and I wait to see if theres an answer to be had, that's about as complicated as it gets. Done now because this is ridiculous to continue

you write a lot, but it's clear the only thing that will give you satisfaction is ian bell that tells you "it was just another example of us getting ahead of ourself". of course to start a new series of moaning on another "maybe". or on the answer itself. like you all have done a lot of time. and they explained don't like this attitude many times.

wait and hope.

AbeWoz
01-06-2016, 19:29
you write a lot, but it's clear the only thing that will give you satisfaction is ian bell that tells you "it was just another example of us getting ahead of ourself". of course to start a new series of moaning on another "maybe". or on the answer itself. like you all have done a lot of time. and they explained don't like this attitude many times.

wait and hope.

seriously dude, give it a rest. Raven has stated multiple times that all is wants is SMS to give an answer on the official IndyCar liveries situation. It doesn't have to be Ian, it can be anyone from the SMS Studio.
I think you are just replying constantly to attempt to practice your English. And if you reply to this, then you are just proving my point. No other discussion needed except for an answer from SMS.

m355y
01-06-2016, 19:39
i wrote it, i'll try to do again.

sms have to pay licences for liveries. at this point liveries don't add nothing to the game. they could have put the liveries with the indy 500 track to replicate the full event. no track, no liveries, no money spent, less work.

it seems so simple and obvious to me, that i find very useless to talk about it.

ps: the only one aggressive here is you vs me. imho.


Licenced liveries do add a lot to the game IMO, especially in a series like Indycar.

This was pretty much the last straw that sent me off to buy an Xbox One for Forza.

DreamsKnight
01-06-2016, 20:56
seriously dude, give it a rest. Raven has stated multiple times that all is wants is SMS to give an answer on the official IndyCar liveries situation. It doesn't have to be Ian, it can be anyone from the SMS Studio.
I think you are just replying constantly to attempt to practice your English. And if you reply to this, then you are just proving my point. No other discussion needed except for an answer from SMS.

always! :D but i don't understand the logic of the second part. :confused:

Raven's attitude to do the question don't like to sms. they wrote this a lot of times. you can click page 1 and read his posts again. you can see also his bad attitude in his answer to mahjik, or the first answer to me. i tried to relaxe the situation with a joke and two smiles and again he has not been kind. after this he point his finger again versus SMS.
so I do not understand why are you blaming me when I tried to supply him an answer.

personally i find not necessary the query and i write it, and i think i'm free to write.



Licenced liveries do add a lot to the game IMO, especially in a series like Indycar.

This was pretty much the last straw that sent me off to buy an Xbox One for Forza.


i respect your opinion! my point is simple: this is not a indycar game, we have only one car and a couple of tracks of the category, no ovals, but before everything this is a small studio and a crowfounded game. so i see liveries only like bad spent money.

just to be clear, for example, i can't imagine a codemaster f1 201X without official liveries. :)

Watkinsglen151515
02-06-2016, 11:58
seriously dude, give it a rest. Raven has stated multiple times that all is wants is SMS to give an answer on the official IndyCar liveries situation. It doesn't have to be Ian, it can be anyone from the SMS Studio.
I think you are just replying constantly to attempt to practice your English. And if you reply to this, then you are just proving my point. No other discussion needed except for an answer from SMS.

AMEN Brother!! It was a simple question with valid points. Official liveries would be a huge boost to the game. IndyCar fans haven`t been able to use a proper version of an Indy Car with liveries since IndyCar Series 2005. Personally I only have Sony gaming consoles so I can`t use them in Forza and in Forza from what I hear the cars don't drive realistic at all.

m355y
02-06-2016, 16:19
AMEN Brother!! It was a simple question with valid points. Official liveries would be a huge boost to the game. IndyCar fans haven`t been able to use a proper version of an Indy Car with liveries since IndyCar Series 2005. Personally I only have Sony gaming consoles so I can`t use them in Forza and in Forza from what I hear the cars don't drive realistic at all.

Since the NASCAR expansion and patch, the Indycars in F6 are so much better it's untrue.

I don't want to come across here like I'm constantly championing Forza, I just think a massive chance was missed (for whatever reason) with the Indycar content and such. If PCars is a game aimed specifically at those of us who want a deeper, more in depth sim on a console then surely it stands to reason that those same people will be the ones who really care about official liveries and so on. And don't get me started on ovals. I know it's flogging a dead horse debating it though, because it ain't coming.