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Project CARS Esports
11-08-2016, 09:33
Round 6 of the NVIDIA Challenger Series opens this Friday August 12.

Enter via the Community Events screen in-game, on all platforms. You will be driving the Caterham SP/300R at Brands Hatch GP.

The main points from the Driver Briefings are now included in the official regulations as well.

Only teams which registered during preseason will be eligible to score team championship points.

All drivers are eligible for driver championship points.

In the 2016 season, there are separate Divisions for PC and Console players. The PS4 and Xbox One physics/handling code is the same. There are some minor differences between the two consoles and PC, which is why we have separate Divisions for PC and Console.

EVENT REGULATIONS

Please read the FULL regulations on our Esports website (http://www.projectcarsesports.com/2016-nvidia-challenger-series.html). It is your responsibility as a competitor to read these. If you breach the rules either deliberately, or accidentally, ignorance is not an excuse.

TRACK LIMITS

It is critical that you obey the rules on track limits, which can be found in the official regulations.

Drivers must use the track at all times. For the avoidance of doubt, the white lines defining the track edges are considered to be part of the track but the kerbs are not. A driver will be judged to have left the track if fewer than two wheels remain in contact with the track. These images from a previous Round may help you to understand what is valid, and what is not.

It is possible that you can cut the track or run wide without the game penalising you, and therefore your time & ghost will still appear on the leaderboard. SMS staff will review all of the ghost laps in the top 30 positions on all platforms to check whether drivers have stayed on track for their entire lap.

If we can see from your ghost that you cut the track or ran wide at any point, then we will not include your time in the official results.

You must obey the track limits rules around the entire circuit, but please pay particular care on all wide kerbs, on any tarmac/concrete/painted run-off areas and in any areas of sand, gravel or grass.

At Brands Hatch GP, you should be particularly careful with track limits in the following places:
- Turn 1: Paddock Hill Bend: On the exit kerb
- Turn 3: Graham Hill Bend: On the exit kerb
- Turn 5: Hawthorns Bend: On the exit kerb
- Turn 6: Westfield Bend: On the exit kerb
- Turn 8: Stirlings Bend: On the exit kerb

If you are unsure which corners these are, please see this circuit map (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Brands_Hatch.svg).

Improved times with track cuts

If you improve your time on the leaderboard, but exceed track limits on your new lap, then your time will be eliminated. If this happens, we do not roll back to your previous valid lap time. Only your fastest lap on the leaderboard at the end of the event will be considered for the final results.

Therefore, if during a lap you think that you might have cut a corner or run-wide even slightly, please back-off & abandon the lap, rather than set an invalid lap for the leaderboard. Otherwise you risk setting an invalid lap that you cannot replace with a faster, valid lap before the end of the event, meaning you miss out on possible championship points.

DISPUTES AND APPEALS

If the SMS staff decide that your ghost is marginal on track limits, we may contact you to ask for additional evidence. The only additional evidence that we will accept is footage of your actual lap, not of the ghost. Any footage you give to us should include the final corner from the lap before your flying lap.

If you think that your lap is close to the limit of the track at any point, please save the replay. Then if we ask you for any additional evidence, you will be able to provide us with footage of your lap.

Failure to provide this footage can result in your time being left out of the official results.

We may also request this same video evidence if you claim after the event that a lap deemed to be invalid by SMS staff, was valid. The procedure is the same as the one above. Failure to provide this footage will result in your time being left out of the results.

Assists

You can run with assists on. In "Help & Options" if you set the assists to "Real", you will get these same settings in the event. However, only the chosen car's real-world assists will work.

NEW TEAM LINEUPS

Please remember that, as written in the regulations: any driver that switched teams during the Transfer Window will keep their driver championship points. However, they DO NOT transfer their previous team championship points to their new team.

In the Console Division, you may notice that some of SDL's console drivers are now competing on PS4, instead of XB1. They chose to change platform during the Transfer Window, as permitted in the regulations.

You may also notice that some members of the eSPORTS+CARS team now have new PSN IDs. These drivers have simply updated their IDs to include their team tag.

UPDATE: AUGUST 15

As a result of technical issues which have occurred on both consoles this weekend, results for NCS Round 6 in the Console Division ONLY will not be published.

PC results will continue as normal.

SMS is conducting an investigation into the issues raised in this thread. We may run NCS Round 6 in the Console Division again at a later date.

theoriginalR6kid
12-08-2016, 13:17
Is there a problem with the xbox leaderboard?

Siberian Tiger
12-08-2016, 13:32
Is there a problem with the xbox leaderboard?

Can you please describe a Little bit more? Is it not loading? Not showing any Entries or what's the exact Problem?
Sorry, but i don't have an Xbox to test what could be wrong...

theoriginalR6kid
12-08-2016, 15:10
It just says that there are no records set. It's not uploaded my time,been like it for 3 hours?

Project CARS Esports
12-08-2016, 15:55
It just says that there are no records set. It's not uploaded my time,been like it for 3 hours?

It may be a temporary Xbox Live issue, as Microsoft hosts this leaderboard. That said, our Online Team is looking into it as well.

ChoKpic76
12-08-2016, 19:18
24 hour soon passed and still nothing so we lost 24 hours compared to ps4 players

Ryzza5
12-08-2016, 22:05
Perhaps ensure you have a a video replay clearly showing your lines and laptime in the interim in case it is accepted.

Project CARS Esports
13-08-2016, 09:35
Hello everyone. The Xbox One leaderboard seems to be working correctly this morning, so the event will continue as normal.

Please let us know if Friday's problem occurs again.

Thank you for your patience and we apologise for any inconvenience.

PanzerMagnet
14-08-2016, 00:29
The leaderboard does appear to be working. I have numerous clean laps and the times will blink at the end of each lap. When I check the board I am not listed. It will go to the page that would be appropriate for my times, but my name isn't listed.

ChoKpic76
14-08-2016, 02:09
me too my name isnt listed big bug in xbox one

Project CARS Esports
14-08-2016, 09:10
We will investigate the issue.

GT-Club_Atho_
14-08-2016, 10:04
If they can enter in the event, just save the replay and share it at the end if they are in the top 20 both consoles...

Kevin Leaune
14-08-2016, 10:59
Xbox players have had 50% less time than the PS4 players ... this is unfair for them!

GT-Club_Atho_
14-08-2016, 11:03
Xbox players have had 50% less time than the PS4 players ... this is unfair for them!


Absolutly not, they can enter since the beginning, it's just the leaderboard which not saving all the time.

Kevin Leaune
14-08-2016, 11:15
Absolutly not, they can enter since the beginning, it's just the leaderboard which not saving all the time.

Not since the beginning of the event they can not go ... they could go only a few hours ago ... so I find it very unfair to all Xbox gamers

GT-Club_Atho_
14-08-2016, 11:26
It just says that there are no records set. It's not uploaded my time,been like it for 3 hours?


His time was not uploading friday afternoon but he can enter...

SDL Rotax
14-08-2016, 11:54
otherwise, can we speak about the outputs in the grass before entering or exiting corners in sector 2 and sector 3? Don't tell me that count because of the famous "white line", I know, that's the regulation. But what we play here? automobile simulation right? even in Need For Speed ​​it's cleaner. It's not racing, review your physics to ban this stuff, it's not what people want to see.

Yinato
14-08-2016, 12:28
This may surprise but for once, I agree completely with Rotax.

We can not blame the players using the grass as the regulation only stipulates respect the white line markings but actually it would be very nice to see the track boundaries.

I also see that there was a classification problem on Xbox and I like to know if it is possible that the race be postponed because I did not want to see destroyed all my efforts.

Joe, please come back to us quickly to clarify the situation.


[EDIT] - My English is not very good I rephrase the sentence this way: I absolutely do not demand the postponement of the round but simply whether there is a risk of it being postponed?

Thank you keep us informed quickly.


Sincerely,
Anthony.

ZokyCRO
14-08-2016, 13:40
otherwise, can we speak about the outputs in the grass before entering or exiting corners in sector 2 and sector 3? Don't tell me that count because of the famous "white line", I know, that's the regulation. But what we play here? automobile simulation right? even in Need For Speed ​​it's cleaner. It's not racing, review your physics to ban this stuff, it's not what people want to see.

Hey man!

I don't mind driving with any rules that will be given by stewards but in this case the RULE is very clear, keep your 2 wheels on or inside the bloody WHITE LINE!!! Now, you get used to it and stop bitching around here because you are incapable of getting close to the top. I certainly don't want to use the grass either and I don't want to see this in the future competitions. As for the xbox guys, just give them 1 extra day and be done with it....

Btw. I saw Yinato drive under 1'17 without going on the grass when we were practicing before so really it just comes to the driving style one prefers and the gear choice! :)

SDL Rotax
14-08-2016, 13:57
Hey Zoky "Atho" CRO

Calm down, I never say that your team and your players should be downgraded, I just said it was ugly to go in the grass in this way. you make me laugh.

So yes, I am unable to go as fast without going into the grass, and I don't care, you were incapable of being fast last weekend and I didn't boast about being better than you..

btw, Yinato also passes into the grass before the second corner of s2. :)

theoriginalR6kid
14-08-2016, 14:30
I don't think there is a need to give us xbox guys an extra day,we were still able to get on track and practice. The only problem might be if a competitor only had friday to post a time?

theoriginalR6kid
14-08-2016, 14:35
Are you still on the xbox Rotax? Or have you moved to the ps4?

SDL Rotax
14-08-2016, 14:39
Are you still on the xbox Rotax? Or have you moved to the ps4?

I'm not on xbox anymore, I moved to PS4 :)

but sure, it's not fair for Xbox players, we had this problem for a previous round, on Imola I believe..

theoriginalR6kid
14-08-2016, 15:12
I'm not on xbox anymore, I moved to PS4 :)

but sure, it's not fair for Xbox players, we had this problem for a previous round, on Imola I believe..

Wondered why there were only 2 of us in the 1.17's!:D

ChoKpic76
14-08-2016, 18:17
Hello all,
after more than 48 hours of the time bug xbox one continues not to validate a time.
if you also have the same problem called me

Kevin Leaune
14-08-2016, 20:02
Why the topic has been moved ?

Siberian Tiger
14-08-2016, 20:07
Why the topic has been moved ?

Ah one moment... Crap...

I just wanted to merge 2 Threads... Will solve it in a Minute!

(Crappy Handy)

Sorry

Edit:// Solved... Now it's back on the right Thread... Thanks for the Input :)

ZokyCRO
14-08-2016, 20:22
Hey Zoky "Atho" CRO

Calm down, I never say that your team and your players should be downgraded, I just said it was ugly to go in the grass in this way. you make me laugh.

So yes, I am unable to go as fast without going into the grass, and I don't care, you were incapable of being fast last weekend and I didn't boast about being better than you..

btw, Yinato also passes into the grass before the second corner of s2. :)

I think it was very clear for whom it was intended but don't worry,I am perfectly calm.

Although,I believe you got me confused to my dear friend Anthony....trust me, there is only one Zoky or ZokyCRO in this world and has been since last 15 years in the sim-racing world,perhaps you should google this nickname?

More driving Rotax,less complaining!

Best Regards!

Yinato
14-08-2016, 20:30
Do not bother Zoky, this is unnecessary with SDL members...

Now that the SDL team is present on PS4 they no longer have the excuse of difference XB1-PS4 platform so they look desperately for a new solution to make up for their lack of performance.

When they win, all is well, when they lose, it's because the others are cheating, they will always have an excuse what.

Pitiful. :)

SDL Rotax
14-08-2016, 20:34
I think it was very clear for whom it was intended but don't worry,I am perfectly calm.

Although,I believe you got me confused to my dear friend Anthony....trust me, there is only one Zoky or ZokyCRO in this world and has been since last 15 years in the sim-racing world,perhaps you should google this nickname?

More driving Rotax,less complaining!

Best Regards!

Yea, yea, of course.. :D

Never heard before, sorry miss'.

Congratulates JP ', and Silex' for his future unbelievable improvement ! :D:D



Do not bother Zoky, this is unnecessary with SDL members...

Now that the SDL team is present on PS4 they no longer have the excuse of difference XB1-PS4 platform so they look desperately for a new solution to make up for their lack of performance.

When they win, all is well, when they lose, it's because the others are cheating, they will always have an excuse what.

Pitiful. :)

I believe you have also used the "excuse of difference XB1-PS4 platform" Yinato..

You were talking less last weekend, it was more complicated huh ..?

More than 6 tenths between 4 of your players, today, less than 2 tenths, what a coincidence.. :D Oh, I know; "More driving, less complaining" haha ! :D;):D

Roger Prynne
14-08-2016, 20:44
Come on girls, put the handbags away.

VP_Darwin_Daume
14-08-2016, 22:20
Hello guys,

since the beginning of the event man team tryes to understand why wie have such a grip difference and such different times while driving the same line and braking on the same way.

Now we found out that the track temperature is always different. I have a temperature of 38 degrees Celsius. Ockerocker has 36 degrees Celsius and p_lustig 38 degrees. Ralphy is driving on 100 degrees Fahrenheit which is 37 degrees Celsius. The guys with less degrees are slower because of less grip. Maybe that is the reason why some fast drivers are so damn slow now. Please investigate that problem. This is really unfair.

You can see that also in the following pictures.

Greetings Darwin

VP_Darwin_Daume
14-08-2016, 22:29
Well, I can't upload the pics because of a Spam Protetion System of this side. Admins please contact me that I can show you the pics. Thanks

cluck
14-08-2016, 22:31
Well, I can't upload the pics because of a Spam Protetion System of this side. Admins please contact me that I can show you the pics. ThanksYou cannot directly post pictures until you meet a minimum number of posts on the forum. The other option is to host the pictures elsewhere and link them :yes:

Konan
14-08-2016, 22:31
You can put them on after your fifth post...

Edit: Cluck'd :cool:

SDL Rotax
14-08-2016, 22:40
I had not paid attention to it before. Personally I have 38 Celsius, I ask my colleagues to know what are their temperatures, but I think that a lower temperature is better, as in "Hotlap mode", which is 32 Celsius.. :confused:

It's really weird, and it can make big differences between players ..

p_lustig
14-08-2016, 22:56
Hello guys,

since the beginning of the event man team tryes to understand why wie have such a grip difference and such different times while driving the same line and braking on the same way.

Now we found out that the track temperature is always different. I have a temperature of 35 degrees Celsius. Ockerocker has 36 degrees Celsius and p_lustig 38 degrees. Ralphy is driving on 100 degrees Fahrenheit which is 37 degrees Celsius. The guys with less degrees are slower because of less grip. Maybe that is the reason why some fast drivers are so damn slow now. Please investigate that problem. This is really unfair.

You can see that also in the following pictures.

Greetings Darwin

Here are the pics:
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SDL Rotax
14-08-2016, 23:01
Wow, that's really crazy' ! :eek:

VP_Darwin_Daume
14-08-2016, 23:04
Thank you for posting the pictures:)

cluck
14-08-2016, 23:08
Just checked my copy and it shows 38C. I got somebody in Steam chat to check their copy and they are also showing 38C - these were the temps shown as soon as the session starts. I entered the time trial 4 times and it showed the same temperature each time. Which format are you guys on, because it shows PC as your platform?

EDIT : Temp stayed at a consistent 38C for 3 laps and the other guy has confirmed his was the same. This does need further investigation, starting of course with knowing which format you guys are using - PC, PS4 or XBOX1 - to see if others can reproduce it.

EDIT : Also, for reference, 100F is 37.78C, which is rounded up to 38C by the game (I set the units to both types and got 100F and 38C)

EDIT : As an aside, may I ask why you guys are doing 5 laps? The car has a limited number of 'push-to-pass' uses and surely you'd use all of these up in your first flying lap? If you weren't aware that the car had it, then map a button to 'KERS' in the controller setup and use it. You'll gain some useful time right away. (EDIT : Just seen your names in the console division leaderboard, so my apologies if this advice came across as rude, it just seemed odd, from a neutral perspective, not knowing who you guys were, that you were running 5 laps and were down in the 1m20, 1m21 times :) ).

SDL Rotax
14-08-2016, 23:39
just receive a reponse and pics of my teammate MPower: all theses pics were taken from ps4

Left: SDL M Power

Right; me, SDL ROTAX

2 Celsius, who are a this temperature difference, which is due to a difference of an hour (you can see the moon on a photo of Mpower!) has big implications for the grip of the car, it's not normal, 2 Celsius, it's huge, and some people may be had more difference!

look at this comparison, the round can not continue with such problems!

Image big size : http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/255378difftemp.jpg

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I just compare with many youtube videos of other players during previous round, whether on Bugatti track, Watkins Glen, Oulton Park, Ruapana Park, SPA francorchamps.. This is the first time I see that difference of temperature ! :eek:

ChoKpic76
15-08-2016, 00:05
I 'm 36 on xbox one

http://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_701966140126511766431143598950332715511o.jpg (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=701966140126511766431143598950332715511o.jpg)

ChoKpic76
15-08-2016, 00:06
So in addition to the time problem that does not register there is a temperature problem .
cool NCS Round 6 Full of bug

Kevin Leaune
15-08-2016, 00:08
Wooooow! but what happens on this round?

Personally I have 38 degrees Celsius! among Xbox gamers that can not play, the guys that go in the ground and the temperature differences!

I hope the organizers will do a few things!

SDL Playkill
15-08-2016, 00:13
its a bug ??

SDL Playkill
15-08-2016, 00:14
i have 38 in xbox One for me its realy ? WTF ????
why have not we all the same temperature ?

t0daY
15-08-2016, 05:52
I believe you have also used the "excuse of difference XB1-PS4 platform" Yinato..

You were talking less last weekend, it was more complicated huh ..?

More than 6 tenths between 4 of your players, today, less than 2 tenths, what a coincidence.. :D Oh, I know; "More driving, less complaining" haha ! :D;):D

Congratz for that! You can buy a cookie for that! xDD

ZokyCRO
15-08-2016, 08:15
We have also noticed this problems with less grip on occasion, does the temperature vary as you play? I noticed that the best grip is usually in the first 30 mins as a play and then later the car just doesn't want to turn into the bloody corner! Yinato has been impacted with this problem on our team the most, he did a 16'8 in practice runs very easy and fast and now he can barely go under 17'1....

My temperature is 38, by logic the high the temp the more grip you have? I need ask my team mates for theirs....

Edit: Time trial mode reads 33 for me so I guess that around 30 is more ideal then....38 is too hot!:eek:

cluck
15-08-2016, 08:38
We have also noticed this problems with less grip on occasion, does the temperature vary as you play? I noticed that the best grip is usually in the first 30 mins as a play and then later the car just doesn't want to turn into the bloody corner! Yinato has been impacted with this problem on our team the most, he did a 16'8 in practice runs very easy and fast and now he can barely go under 17'1....

My temperature is 38, by logic the high the temp the more grip you have? I need ask my team mates for theirs....

Edit: Time trial mode reads 33 for me so I guess that around 30 is more ideal then....38 is too hot!:eek:It doesn't matter if the temps are higher or lower than in time trial, all that should matter is that they are consistent - time trial and events should have a fixed weather, with no time progression (at least, that's my understanding). Screenshots seem to show that some people are getting a different time of day and temp to others so maybe there is a problem somewhere, for some people, on some platforms. All I know is, I checked my settings last night and got somebody else to check theirs, and it was a consistent 38C every time, even after 3 laps (though, why anybody would bother doing more than 2 laps with this car, before restarting the session, is a mystery to me).

ZokyCRO
15-08-2016, 09:07
Of course, everyone needs to have same conditions, it's just another bug that SMS failed to recognize on time. How come nobody noticed this untill now?? (I just started playing this game seriously 3 weeks ago).

But,I am driving on 38 and I am hitting those 17'0/16'9 every now and then just proves that sdl group is just a bunch of cry babies who would use any means necessary to get on top, although they clearly don't have the driving capabilities! :)

cluck
15-08-2016, 09:10
Of course, everyone needs to have same conditions, it's just another bug that SMS failed to recognize on time. How come nobody noticed this untill now?? (I just started playing this game seriously 3 weeks ago).

But,I am driving on 38 and I am hitting those 17'0/16'9 every now and then just proves that sdl group is just a bunch of cry babies who would use any means necessary to get on top, although they clearly don't have the driving capabilities! :)There's no need for personal attacks please.

I have made contact with one of the devs to try and reach the e-sports guys to take a look. Until then, can I just ask that people only post on here if they are reporting their findings of varying temperatures and clearly stating which platform they are on and, if possible, whether the temperature changes from session to session. Thank you :)

Roger Prynne
15-08-2016, 09:38
Stop slinging mud around ZokyCRO and keep it civil please.

SDL Rotax
15-08-2016, 10:08
Of course, everyone needs to have same conditions, it's just another bug that SMS failed to recognize on time. How come nobody noticed this untill now?? (I just started playing this game seriously 3 weeks ago).

But,I am driving on 38 and I am hitting those 17'0/16'9 every now and then just proves that sdl group is just a bunch of cry babies who would use any means necessary to get on top, although they clearly don't have the driving capabilities! :)

Listen, "Zoky";

Nobody notices this difference until now because this is the first time that we can see this problem.

We simply don't care about your temperature, if you are so strong, go contact Mercedes Formula One Team and go away.

I don't understand why you talk about SDL, while it is not even us that we found this problem !

You talk too much, You can talk about our driving capabilities when you will do what we did.

Edit: The point is: I hope organizers will find a solution, because it is not fair, on my opinion, the results can not beings considered if they are temperature and time difference between players.

Konan
15-08-2016, 10:09
Try to keep it civilised please guys...

cluck
15-08-2016, 10:33
Let's try again ...


...can I just ask that people only post on here if they are reporting their findings of varying temperatures and clearly stating which platform they are on and, if possible, whether the temperature changes from session to session. Thank you :)

Roger Prynne
15-08-2016, 10:49
This thread is going to be closed very soon if you lot cant stick to the original subject.

ZokyCRO
15-08-2016, 10:58
First cup, came with zero preparation and with a wrong car, second one qualified first in my group but the car wouldn't move on start,third cup made it to 2nd round just so people could throw me off in the first corner, some nice competition you have there. This discussion was never meant to be about me, I just see what you are trying to do here and I am not letting you do it. Both of you are on my ignore list from now on.

Back on topic:
Did a 2h session(with restarts of course) now and the temp is still at 38(ps4). I think that is not the problem, I don't know how to explain this but sometimes the car just feels like it has less grip sometimes. I mean,I'm hitting the apex with same speed but it just doesn't want to turn in the corner as it used to. I don't know the reason and I can't explain it otherwise but something isn't right here....for instance, I barely managed a 23.8 or 23.7 on T2 while when it works I can go for 23.5 with no problem. Does someone else feel this as well? (I'm suspecting on the wheel it self and that force feedback isn't working the same all the time)

SDL Rotax
15-08-2016, 11:20
I think the weather is a big part of the problem, 35 for some people, 36, or 38 for other, it's not the same..

Some people can see the moon ! shadows are not the same..

Yea, sometimes, the car has less grip, you restart, the car has more grip.. SDL M Power, my team mate, did .5 in sector 2 without difficulty, and 30 minutes later, impossible to do under .7 : I use the same wheel as him, we used the same ffb setup, we compared ghosts, and cars don't react equal, especially between last turn of S1 and last of S2..

therefore, there is a problem of feeling and grip with the car, a problem with the weather, and another problem with Xbox players..

I know it's difficult for organizers, maybe it's not their fault, it is complicated to manage everything, but they must react and take a decision about this round :confused:

Project CARS Esports
15-08-2016, 12:03
As a result of technical issues which have occurred on both consoles this weekend, results for NCS Round 6 in the Console Division ONLY will not be published.

PC results will continue as normal.

SMS is conducting an investigation into the issues raised in this thread. We may run NCS Round 6 in the Console Division again at a later date.

SDL Rotax
15-08-2016, 12:12
As a result of technical issues which have occurred on both consoles this weekend, results for NCS Round 6 in the Console Division ONLY will not be published.

PC results will continue as normal.

SMS is conducting an investigation into the issues raised in this thread. We may run NCS Round 6 in the Console Division again at a later date.

I think it's the best decision, Run this round later is the better option.

Thanks for your prompt response.

ZokyCRO
15-08-2016, 12:17
You guys are out of your mind,do you realise how much effort some of us have put in to this? And that most of us have jobs,families and that our schedule is thin and organised in advance to be able to participate in such an event,joke event as the game it self...lucky for us assetto corsa and gt sports are on the way...

RacingTopsy
15-08-2016, 12:25
Two pages back you still were calling for equal conditions, now SMS is trying to make sure people get them.

Of course, everyone needs to have same conditions, it's just another bug that SMS failed to recognize on time.

Please behave nicely everyone, SMS knows you guys put a lot me time into these events and I'm sure calling it off isn't a decision taken lightly.

ZokyCRO
15-08-2016, 12:30
Sure but you can't cancel an event 10 hours before deadline after everyone put so much effort in to this. It's obvious we were all experiencing same problems...it's just not the way this should have been done.

cluck
15-08-2016, 12:37
Sure but you can't cancel an event 10 hours before deadline after everyone put so much effort in to this. It's obvious we were all experiencing same problems...it's just not the way this should have been done.The problem was only reported late yesterday, the organisers have acted as fast as they could - there would, no doubt, have had to have been an investigation to determine if there genuinely was a problem, and that takes time. Is it frustrating for the console guys? Of course it is and, as RacingTopsy said, cancelling the event will not have been a decision taken lightly.

What's the alternative? That the event continues and the results are forever shrouded in mistrust? There are real prizes at stake here, not just pride and glory. If there is a doubt as large as this one, the organisers have to take appropriate action which, sadly, in this case means cancelling the event for the console players.

ralphy0502
15-08-2016, 12:41
I have a question, remember in round 2, at Laguna Seca, when there was hard evidence of people cheating but only the people who got found out got DQ'd, why was that round not cancelled but this one is?

Laguna exposed cheaters, and to this day we do not know how many people actually scored points by using the games exploit. This is just variable temperatures, it is not cheating.

Cheating is much worse.


(just to give my point of view, I checked my replay and I was at 100f, which i think it 37 degrees on my current best lap. I can honestly say I never experianced any changes in grip levels)

cluck
15-08-2016, 12:55
I have a question, remember in round 2, at Laguna Seca, when there was hard evidence of people cheating but only the people who got found out got DQ'd, why was that round not cancelled but this one is?

Laguna exposed cheaters, and to this day we do not know how many people actually scored points by using the games exploit. This is just variable temperatures, it is not cheating.

Cheating is much worse.


(just to give my point of view, I checked my replay and I was at 100f, which i think it 37 degrees on my current best lap. I can honestly say I never experianced any changes in grip levels)Just to re-quote myself from earlier in the thread, 100F is 37.7C, which gets rounded up to 38C if you use that measure :) . That's the temps myself and somebody else were seeing on PC last night - I tested multiple session restarts and restarting the game (and ran 3 laps just in case the temp changed over the course of 5 minutes)

ralphy0502
15-08-2016, 12:59
Just to re-quote myself from earlier in the thread, 100F is 37.7C, which gets rounded up to 38C if you use that measure :) . That's the temps myself and somebody else were seeing on PC last night - I tested multiple session restarts and restarting the game (and ran 3 laps just in case the temp changed over the course of 5 minutes)

Ah yea sorry my bad, just noticed that lol.
I was always able to hit my best sector times in every try.

Anyway, I don't mean this to sounds rude in any way, but myself and many other people are probably wondering what the answer is to the first point of my post? Why is this round getting cancelled but Round 2 wasn't?

ChoKpic76
15-08-2016, 13:00
As a result of technical issues which have occurred on both consoles this weekend, results for NCS Round 6 in the Console Division ONLY will not be published.

PC results will continue as normal.

SMS is conducting an investigation into the issues raised in this thread. We may run NCS Round 6 in the Console Division again at a later date.

good good also counting on xbox one problem related to unregistered time for some it is logical

cluck
15-08-2016, 13:04
Ah yea sorry my bad, just noticed that lol.
I was always able to hit my best sector times in every try.

Anyway, I don't mean this to sounds rude in any way, but myself and many other people are probably wondering what the answer is to the first point of my post? Why is this round getting cancelled but Round 2 wasn't?I guess because the devs have found proof of a problem, in this instance, that throws all the results into question. With Round 2, although there was proof of some people using the 'off track' exploit (mostly because they recorded themselves doing it!), it wasn't possible to prove who else was and wasn't using it - for the record, I wasn't and, even when I tried it after the event ended, I couldn't improve my time :) . But that's just a guess and really, it's a fine line I will agree ...

... however, I would also remind people that the organiser's decisions are final, as per the regulations we all agree to as part of taking part. If they do not wish to discuss the exact reasons, that is their right not to do so :).

GT-Club_Atho_
15-08-2016, 18:40
Project Cars by racers for racers ahaha are you kidding me ?!!!!!!!

No respect for racers who are training since 1 month, cancel a round 12 hour before the deadline what the hell i never saw that. You are in charge, if it's forbidden to have more than 100 pts behind his rivals don't make a 10 round championship.

Like Ralphy says there were more problem on round 2 but SDL was in front so no reason to cancel !!!

For Sonik, when you take more than 30 sec to search, Zoky win Board Challenge biggest international competition on GT4 and finish top 15 in the world of GT Academy far behind Yinato and I...

http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?sec=2&board=2-8-5&start=0

http://www.planete-gt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=784

t0daY
15-08-2016, 18:51
Project Cars by racers for racers ahaha are you kidding me ?!!!!!!!

No respect for racers who are training since 1 month, cancel a round 12 hour before the deadline what the hell i never saw that. You are in charge, if it's forbidden to have more than 100 pts behind his rivals don't make a 10 round championship.

Like Ralphy says there were more problem on round 2 but SDL was in front so no reason to cancel !!!

For Sonik, when you take more than 30 sec to search, Zoky win Board Challenge biggest international competition on GT4 and finish top 15 in the world of GT Academy far behind Yinato and I...

http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?sec=2&board=2-8-5&start=0

http://www.planete-gt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=784

in the WORLD!!!

You have to type WORLD in capital letters xDD Are we now so far that we are comparing cybercocks who won which TimeTrial in whatever game? My real cock is 20cm long, who got more?! :D :D :D
Seriously... Jesus... So happy I quitted this mess after round 2. Those attitudes from the top tier teams suck big times... Only talking about the WORLD and how big their cybercocks are...

I hope you still all realise this is just a game and there is also a WORLD outside this virtual WORLD.

GT-Club_Atho_
15-08-2016, 18:54
in the WORLD!!!

You have to type WORLD in capital letters xDD Are we now so far that we are comparing cybercocks who won which TimeTrial in whatever game? My real cock is 20cm long, who got more?! :D :D :D
Seriously... Jesus... So happy I quitted this mess after round 2. Those attitudes from the top tier teams suck big times... Only talking about the WORLD and how big their cybercocks are...

I hope you still all realise this is just a game and there is also a WORLD outside this virtual WORLD.


If you left after round 2 why are you still here breaking balls of guys still running ??

t0daY
15-08-2016, 18:55
If you left after round 2 why are you still here breaking balls of guys still running ??

I am still a member of this forum and my eyes starting burning when I have to read such crapshit. I am sorry (actually I am not xD)

GT-Club_Atho_
15-08-2016, 18:57
I am still a member of this forum and my eyes starting burning when I have to read such crapshit. I am sorry (actually I am not xD)

Other team guy say bullshit about my guy i just defend him.

Konan
15-08-2016, 18:58
Everything was said here...

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?48389-NVIDIA-Challenger-Series-Round-6-Caterham-SP-300R-at-Brands-GP&p=1299977&viewfull=1#post1299977

There have been plenty warnings not to continue this way,to no avail i'm sorry to say...so...thread closed