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dault3883
23-06-2017, 13:23
He's messing with you since it's "WMD"... ;)

o LOL sorry im doing this and watching the 2011 24 hours of le mans at the same time

Mad Al
23-06-2017, 14:08
Who's the WMB members :uncomfortableness:

Wombles maybe ?? ..... would fit a few of us :)

dault3883
23-06-2017, 14:09
iv fixed it it now says WMD

Mad Al
23-06-2017, 14:11
iv fixed it it now says WMD

Horse, stable door, bolted......

dault3883
23-06-2017, 14:19
Horse, stable door, bolted......

agreed we can now move on to something else other than my horrible spelling LOL

hkraft300
23-06-2017, 14:33
Who's the WMB members :uncomfortableness:

Ricciardo and Vettel.
Wheels
May
Bang.

:hopelessness:

dault3883
23-06-2017, 14:35
Ricciardo and Vettel.
Wheels
May
Bang.

:hopelessness:

you forgot Crashtor maldanado

now can we please get back on topic

OddTimer
23-06-2017, 17:38
back on topic....to be fair, SMS did say Pcars2 was going to run on 4k 60fps on Xbox One X

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR1DevR_i80

hkraft300
23-06-2017, 17:41
back on topic....to be fair, SMS did say Pcars2 was going to run on 4k 60fps on Xbox One X

But they quickly retracted.
Or did you miss the last couple pages of this thread?

OddTimer
23-06-2017, 17:46
But they quickly retracted.
Or did you miss the last couple pages of this thread?

I've missed nothing....thing is that no one was sure that the Dutch article that originally published the news was a reliable source. It seems they were, or did you miss the Dutch article a couple of days ago?

Konan
23-06-2017, 17:53
I've missed nothing....thing is that no one was sure that the Dutch article that originally published the news was a reliable source. It seems they were, or did you miss the Dutch article a couple of days ago?

You missed this one i'm affraid...

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?49473-Project-CARS-2-What-we-are-99-100-certain-about&p=1340186&viewfull=1#post1340186

OddTimer
23-06-2017, 18:00
You missed this one i'm affraid...

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?49473-Project-CARS-2-What-we-are-99-100-certain-about&p=1340186&viewfull=1#post1340186

no, I didn't. I read it at gtplantet...anyways, game will look good that's for sure.

Schadows
23-06-2017, 23:40
Well, anyway, when you look at the official xbox blog about new icons which will be used on packaging, microsoft explicitly defines 4K as "A game has a 2160p frame buffer output. That includes Native 4K, Checkerboarding, and Dynamic Resolution". Be ready to see their 4K logo everywhere >__<

David Semperger
29-06-2017, 09:32
If you have your frame rate locked at your fresh rate, say 60 Hz, that means you will only have a maximum of 60 frames per second. Since you are locked on your refresh rate, if the system is busy and cannot hit the refresh cycle, it has to wait for the next one. This means you will skip ever other refresh hit which puts you at half of your target (60/2 = 30). So you are not instantly running at 30 frames per second. If you skip more than 1 frame then it goes down to every 3rd frame which is 60/3 = 20 frames per second.

This is true for double buffered V-sync. With triple buffering you won't get sudden drops like that, but you will still enjoy every benefit of V-sync, albeit at higher memory usage, the size of an additional framebuffer to be exact, which depends on your chosen resolution.

If your framerate only drops below 60 for short periods, then adaptive V-sync can be another consideration (available on both AMD and nVidia cards I think). It's very similar to having an FPS cap at 60, in that V-sync will only be enabled until the rendering can keep up with the refresh cycle of your monitor.

Schadows
30-06-2017, 08:37
About performances, we already know they should be in the same ballpark as pcars 1 (more optimized but more things too). Was there any words about VR performances so far? The gain in that department should probably be greater, don't you think?
Do we know what GPU we should aim to run without reprojection? or what was used on the E3 VR rigs?

Roger Prynne
30-06-2017, 08:53
I would aim for a 1080 at least if I were you.

cluck
30-06-2017, 12:05
I would aim for a 1080 at least if I were you.That aside, VR performance is still MUCH improved over pCARS1 (not that it was awful in the first place, mind you).

Tank621
30-06-2017, 12:10
Info on Race settings in game
http://www.projectcarsgame.com/newspc2/exploring-the-core-in-game-race-settings-for-project-cars-2?lang=en238376

Schadows
30-06-2017, 12:41
I would aim for a 1080 at least if I were you.Well, I enjoy playing pcars1 in VR with my 970, but the visuals and race conditions are limited.
I was expecting to upgrade at least my GPU for pcars2, but if I were to switch, it would be for a 1080Ti. The thing is, I'm still waiting to see if HDMI 2.1 compatible TV will be released this year (my PC is connected to my TV in the living room) and if graphic card will be using the variable refresh rate (VRR) functionality any time soon. Sure, it won't be useful when I play in VR, but for the other games, that might be interesting.



Info on Race settings in game
http://www.projectcarsgame.com/newspc2/exploring-the-core-in-game-race-settings-for-project-cars-2?lang=en238376
Can we select to play on 12/06/2017 but still selecting the winter season? That would be strange but since it is a separate setting ...

I hope the weather slot will have some tooltip associated, because this is still uncertain as to how it will work.

Tank621
30-06-2017, 13:03
Can we select to play on 12/06/2017 but still selecting the winter season? That would be strange but since it is a separate setting ...

I hope the weather slot will have some tooltip associated, because this is still uncertain as to how it will work.

Yeah, it's called Australia

F1_Racer68
30-06-2017, 13:35
Yeah, it's called Australia

And Brazil ;)

GenBrien
30-06-2017, 13:47
I must say that I'm very pleased by what they showed today :)
UI is wayyyyy better than Pcars1
Seems to have a lot of option to chosse from (like particulary multiclass choices)

GJ SMS :applouse:

Roger Prynne
30-06-2017, 14:00
Can we select to play on 12/06/2017 but still selecting the winter season? That would be strange but since it is a separate setting ...

Yeah, it's called Australia

And Brazil ;)

And the UK at the moment!!

F1_Racer68
30-06-2017, 14:09
And the UK at the moment!!

Canada's not much better..... Getting a U.K. Winter in what should be our hot summer (and yes, we KNOW what HOT is).

Roger Prynne
30-06-2017, 14:20
Thing is we have just had a heat wave, hottest June for a very long time.

dault3883
30-06-2017, 14:27
Thing is we have just had a heat wave, hottest June for a very long time.

its the exact opposite in North Carolina weve had temps reaching highs of 84 degrees Fahrenheit dont know what that is in Celsius but thats unusually cool for June in NC

hkraft300
30-06-2017, 14:31
Coldest June in Melbourne.

What climate change? :rolleyes:

Roger Prynne
30-06-2017, 14:33
its the exact opposite in North Carolina weve had temps reaching highs of 84 degrees Fahrenheit dont know what that is in Celsius but thats unusually cool for June in NC

28.8889 C

We had a high of 34C (93F) a few weeks ago, and that's hot for people that are not used to it.
But today I've actually had the central heating on for a short time... go figure.

dault3883
30-06-2017, 14:36
28.8889 C

yea i grew up in north america so when i see the temps on the game in celcius i have no idea what temp its saying i hope on Pcars2 we will be able to change the temp units from metric to imperial

and now its somewhat back on topic too :)

Roger Prynne
30-06-2017, 14:39
and now its somewhat back on topic too

I'll be the judge of that :D

GenBrien
30-06-2017, 14:40
yea i grew up in north america so when i see the temps on the game in celcius i have no idea what temp its saying

I guess Canada is not part of NA anymore?:rolleyes:

dault3883
30-06-2017, 14:41
I guess Canada is not part of NA anymore?:rolleyes:

correction then i grew up in AMERICA :p

Olijke Poffer
30-06-2017, 15:46
I only drive in beach look. Side window down, left elbow Resting in the open window. Reggae muziek from the speakers. Big sigar between the lips. Yeah man.

http://hollywoodrooster.com/users/1/images2/sylvester-stallone-smoking-3.jpg

dault3883
30-06-2017, 15:55
I only drive in beach look. Side window down, left elbow Resting in the open window. Reggae muziek from the speakers. Big sigar between the lips. Yeah man.

i didnt know you were Sylvestor stallone. WHATS UP ROCKY!

Konan
30-06-2017, 16:52
I only drive in beach look. Side window down, left elbow Resting in the open window. Reggae muziek from the speakers. Big sigar between the lips. Yeah man.

http://hollywoodrooster.com/users/1/images2/sylvester-stallone-smoking-3.jpg

Actually it's:" ya man" :cool:

F1_Racer68
30-06-2017, 17:10
correction then i grew up in AMERICA :p

Correction.... you grew up in the United States (of America). The entire continent is AMERICA. Unfortunately, this is also why Europeans tend to lump us Canadians in with you Yanks all the time, as Europeans refer to the Continent more so than the country.

F1_Racer68
30-06-2017, 17:14
its the exact opposite in North Carolina weve had temps reaching highs of 84 degrees Fahrenheit dont know what that is in Celsius but thats unusually cool for June in NC

Exactly my point...... Normal temps for us this time of year are in the 30C+ (86F+) range with 95% humidity and the sun beating us to a crisp..... right now, it's 21C (70F) and 100% humidity in the form of non-stop rain. Haven't seen the sun in over a week...... :(:mad:

This is April weather for us, not July.

Konan
30-06-2017, 17:17
Packing my suitcases and moving to Canada...:cool:

F1_Racer68
30-06-2017, 17:19
Packing my suitcases and moving to Canada...:cool:

Make sure you pack your flotation vest and bring a boat.......

Konan
30-06-2017, 17:23
Got that covered...

238380

Tank621
30-06-2017, 17:42
Correction.... you grew up in the United States (of America). The entire continent is AMERICA. Unfortunately, this is also why Europeans tend to lump us Canadians in with you Yanks all the time, as Europeans refer to the Continent more so than the country.

American's do that all the time too when talking about Europe. "I'm going to Europe" could mean anything from Scunthorpe to Rome

dault3883
30-06-2017, 18:04
American's do that all the time too when talking about Europe. "I'm going to Europe" could mean anything from Scunthorpe to Rome

because when some of your european country's are as small as some of our states we figure why only go to england or go to france. We can hit England take the tunnel train to france take a train to germany or spain so on so forth and there we have scene multiple country's in europe LOL

we refer to europe the way you refer to america so you are just as guilty as us

as stated below


Correction.... you grew up in the United States (of America). The entire continent is AMERICA. Unfortunately, this is also why Europeans tend to lump us Canadians in with you Yanks all the time, as Europeans refer to the Continent more so than the country.

F1_Racer68
30-06-2017, 18:37
because when some of your european country's are as small as some of our states we figure why only go to england or go to france. We can hit England take the tunnel train to france take a train to germany or spain so on so forth and there we have scene multiple country's in europe LOL

we refer to europe the way you refer to america so you are just as guilty as us

as stated below

So true..... 5 major European countries can fit into the land mass of the Province of Ontario alone.

The Province of Ontario is;


approximately 1,076,395 sq. km / 415,598 sq mi.
larger than France and Spain , combined.
almost 1/3 the size of India.
more than 3 times the size of Germany.
more than 3.5 times the size of Italy.
more than 1/10th the size of Canada.
more than 4 times the size of the UK.
more than 8.25 times the size of England.
more than 15 times the size of Ireland.
about the same size of the US states Texas & Montana, combined.


#SizeMatters ;)

dault3883
30-06-2017, 18:48
So true..... 5 major European countries can fit into the land mass of the Province of Ontario alone.

The Province of Ontario is;


approximately 1,076,395 sq. km / 415,598 sq mi.
larger than France and Spain , combined.
almost 1/3 the size of India.
more than 3 times the size of Germany.
more than 3.5 times the size of Italy.
more than 1/10th the size of Canada.
more than 4 times the size of the UK.
more than 8.25 times the size of England.
more than 15 times the size of Ireland.
about the same size of the US states Texas & Montana, combined.


#SizeMatters ;)

i think my home state of texas could fit a few of the eastern european country's in and and probly fit all of france in it too (seperately of course)

Roger Prynne
30-06-2017, 18:55
OK guys, now I think it's time to get back on topic :barbershop_quartet_

Konan
30-06-2017, 19:06
because when some of your european country's are as small as some of our states we figure why only go to england or go to france. We can hit England take the tunnel train to france take a train to germany or spain so on so forth and there we have scene multiple country's in europe LOL

we refer to europe the way you refer to america so you are just as guilty as us

as stated below

Just one more off topic Roger...
@ dault: are you really going to skip Belgium on your tour and miss out on all our great beer,fries,chocolate,waffles,...

dault3883
30-06-2017, 19:10
Just one more off topic Roger...
@ dault: are you really going to skip Belgium on your tour and miss out on all our great beer,fries,chocolate,waffles,...

i said so on and so forth id have to work my way to denmark any ways and visit my buddy lars and go mtn bike riding all along the way LOL

Schadows
30-06-2017, 19:29
Can we select to play on 12/06/2017 but still selecting the winter season? That would be strange but since it is a separate setting ...

And the UK at the moment!!
Does UK have ever known what summer is?

FS7
30-06-2017, 19:37
Info on Race settings in game
http://www.projectcarsgame.com/newspc2/exploring-the-core-in-game-race-settings-for-project-cars-2?lang=en238376
Can I disable formation lap? In that pic it looks like formation lap is mandatory.

Other than that I'm very pleased with what I read in that article, it looks like SMS took the really good solo race mode from PCars1 and replaced it with something even better.

Mahjik
30-06-2017, 19:50
Can I disable formation lap?

Yes

Roger Prynne
30-06-2017, 19:52
Does UK have ever known what summer is?

We used to have about 5 months of sunny summers when I was young (but that was a very long time ago) :wink-new:
Also we used to get proper snow in the winter, but not anymore.

Mahjik
30-06-2017, 19:52
BTW, the Motorsport Presets & Favorites are awesome! ;)

Mad Al
30-06-2017, 20:12
We used to have about 5 months of sunny summers when I was young (but that was a very long time ago) :wink-new:
Also we used to get proper snow in the winter, but not anymore.

and T.Rex still ruled...









unless you're a Pink Floyd man ;)

Roger Prynne
30-06-2017, 20:36
Definitely a Pink Floyd man, you cheeky bugger :boxing:

dault3883
30-06-2017, 20:59
Definitely a Pink Floyd man, you cheeky bugger :boxing:

im more of a lynyrd skynyrd ZZ Top man my self but thats neither here nor there

Mad Al
30-06-2017, 21:00
Definitely a Pink Floyd man, you cheeky bugger :boxing:

OT

I might have some leanings in that direction, myself

238391

/OT

Roger Prynne
30-06-2017, 21:04
I got all those myself as well, and I also like ZZ Top.

Note to self: Stop going OT.

Phil.Vhee
04-07-2017, 11:00
Will have Project Cars2 the option to you create our own liveries on PS4 ?

Invincible
04-07-2017, 11:07
Will have Project Cars2 the option to you create our own liveries on PS4 ?

No, sorry.

honespc
04-07-2017, 11:26
Can I disable formation lap?

YesThank goodness

RacingAtHome
04-07-2017, 11:32
I got all those myself as well, and I also like ZZ Top.

Note to self: Stop going OT.

If we keep going off topic, is there really a topic anymore?

amazed
04-07-2017, 13:12
Obviously we've covered everything we're 99/100% certain about.... :D

Mascot
04-07-2017, 13:36
This whole forum is just one big Off Topic. I hope the one for pCARS 2 is better moderated because it's pretty pointless trying to find any meaningful discussions here.

Roger Prynne
04-07-2017, 13:39
^ Chill out man.

Konan
04-07-2017, 18:13
This whole forum is just one big Off Topic. I hope the one for pCARS 2 is better moderated because it's pretty pointless trying to find any meaningful discussions here.


Life's too short to stay serious all of the time...although epic...this is STILL "just" a game...
If you have issues with the mods just PM or report them...
I thought people would like the mods to be more leaniant anyway...because if we weren't you would have at least gotten an infraction for your last post...

F1_Racer68
04-07-2017, 19:14
This whole forum is just one big Off Topic. I hope the one for pCARS 2 is better moderated because it's pretty pointless trying to find any meaningful discussions here.

Nothing wrong with going off course once in a while so long as the captain rights the course quickly enough. I think the mods have done an excellent job at keeping things light and conversational yet still structured.

Imagine how many useless, meaningless threads this forum would have if every off topic conversation were in it's own thread. The threads wouldn't even make sense because the context of those conversations and how they started would be completely lost.

I for one appreciate the more real world conversational approach over the draconianly structured and enforced approach other sites take.

dault3883
04-07-2017, 20:57
Nothing wrong with going off course once in a while so long as the captain rights the course quickly enough. I think the mods have done an excellent job at keeping things light and conversational yet still structured.

Imagine how many useless, meaningless threads this forum would have if every off topic conversation were in it's own thread. The threads wouldn't even make sense because the context of those conversations and how they started would be completely lost.

I for one appreciate the more real world conversational approach over the draconianly structured and enforced approach other sites take.

i agree we come here to interact with other people that have the same interest if it was completely serious you wouldnt have threads on this site about forza, Asseto corsa, GT, or any others which there are its layed back

DECATUR PLAYA
04-07-2017, 21:14
It always going to go off topic when we have stretches with no real news. I for one enjoy this forum just the way it is.

hkraft300
04-07-2017, 23:18
This whole forum is just one big Off Topic.

You need more coleslaw in your life.

ELAhrairah
04-07-2017, 23:43
This whole forum is just one big Off Topic. I hope the one for pCARS 2 is better moderated because it's pretty pointless trying to find any meaningful discussions here.

Dear people....I want to talk about my love life and better ingame rain physics on windscreens.

ryandtw
05-07-2017, 01:03
About the '2016' RWD LMPs: Will the chassis for the RWD LMPs be the same as pCARS 1 or will it be revised based on 2016 ACO/FIA specifications? Because the RWD P30 LMP1 was wider than the Audi R18 or the Toyota TS040, both were using the 2016 specifications, but on the car lists the RWD LMPs say 2016, so hopefully it conforms to the 2016 specs...

dault3883
05-07-2017, 02:31
Dear people....I want to talk about my love life and better ingame rain physics on windscreens.

Love life NO

The rest knock your self out

KANETAKER
05-07-2017, 07:25
About the '2016' RWD LMPs: Will the chassis for the RWD LMPs be the same as pCARS 1 or will it be revised based on 2016 ACO/FIA specifications? Because the RWD P30 LMP1 was wider than the Audi R18 or the Toyota TS040, both were using the 2016 specifications, but on the car lists the RWD LMPs say 2016, so hopefully it conforms to the 2016 specs...

I make the same question about "2016" RWD P30. 2016 Spec (upgrade) it's real, or it's a simple typing error? Because the 2013 RWD P30 was already very fast and competitive, having as only weak points its mechanical reliability and low power of the KERS in comparison to the KERS of Audi R18 e-tron Quattro and Toyota TS040. However in the last 3 weeks a good number of players started to practice a lot with the Toyota TS040 in PCARS1 (inspired by the lap record of Kamui Kobayashi at LeMans 2017 with TS050) and finally managed to overcome the RWD P30 at least in laptimes at LeMans, but the RWD P30 still have an advantage on Top Speed (without KERS) but this is good because so we have a variety of LMP1 cars that are competitive and even performance in one way or another but with different features and strengths. For example: The RWD has higher top speed on straight, the Toyota has the highest acceleration at the exit of the curves, the Audi a perfect traction and good passage through curves, and the Marek a less tire wear and very good mechanical reliability.

So perhaps a "small update" to match forces would not be bad, as long as it does not damage their current strengths points. At the most I hope they are just changes in the tires (you should use the same type of tires LMP1-H as Audi and Toyota) and the KERS who is the weakest of all.

Even so, hopefully in some future DLC the SMS guys can include more real LMP1 cars, both hybrids (example: Porsche 919, Toyota TS050) and non-hybrids (example: Peugeot 908, Audi R18 TDI, Lola B12/80, Aston Martin DBR1-2, Toyota TS030), since in a way a lot of players do not find it very funny to have to use fictional cars to fill the grill and for can win (RWD was the better LMP1 car at PCARS1), since between the Audi and the Toyota only have 5 cars, unless SMS has been able to design new liveries for those 2 cars and this have a greater visual variety and allow more players to participate in championships with those cars, since in the case of Toyota there is only #7 and #8, and there were races where more than 4 players wanted to use the Toyota but all looked the same.

Mascot
05-07-2017, 09:16
Life's too short to stay serious all of the time...although epic...this is STILL "just" a game...
If you have issues with the mods just PM or report them...
I thought people would like the mods to be more leaniant anyway...because if we weren't you would have at least gotten an infraction for your last post...

Can I ask why I would get an infraction for my last post? The only point I was trying to make was that it can be very difficult on this forum trying to filter useful information and meaningful discussion out of the sea of off-topic in-jokes that a lot of threads seem to quickly descend into. The lack of focus has often made me think twice about trying to contribute to discussions, and I have a lot of friends who used to frequent these boards who feel the same. Project CARS is a complicated game and this forum should be the go-to place for people to seek advice of share useful information, but the proliferation of in-jokes can sometimes be a barrier to that. So yes, I'm hoping for tighter moderation when the pCARS 2 boards open so that they are as useful as they can be. Of course I'm not advocating a 'no fun allowed' policy, but boards for much simpler games than Project CARS have off-topic sections for very good reasons.

Konan
05-07-2017, 09:22
For this:


I hope the one for pCARS 2 is better moderated

Could be seen as a concern but can also be seen as an insult to current moderators...

Mascot
05-07-2017, 09:57
For this:



Could be seen as a concern but can also be seen as an insult to current moderators...

I guess it depends whether or not you are applying confirmation bias while reading it.

There was certainly no insult intended. For 'better' read 'more tightly', if that helps?

Konan
05-07-2017, 10:03
This is my unbiased opinion: you seem to have the questionable "ability" to hide an insult...
But i have been wrong before...:rolleyes:

cmch15
05-07-2017, 10:14
This is my unbiased opinion: you seem to have the questionable "ability" to hide an insult...

Not really helped though when mods get involved (in arguments), rather than just moderating. ;-)

ELAhrairah
05-07-2017, 11:25
Can I ask why I would get an infraction for my last post? The only point I was trying to make was that it can be very difficult on this forum trying to filter useful information and meaningful discussion out of the sea of off-topic in-jokes that a lot of threads seem to quickly descend into. The lack of focus has often made me think twice about trying to contribute to discussions, and I have a lot of friends who used to frequent these boards who feel the same. Project CARS is a complicated game and this forum should be the go-to place for people to seek advice....

Come on..really? I am here for over 2 years and every question I had was answered or at least brought to attention by most mods or other people reading it.

Sankyo
05-07-2017, 12:04
...Project CARS is a complicated game and this forum should be the go-to place for people to seek advice of share useful information, but the proliferation of in-jokes can sometimes be a barrier to that. So yes, I'm hoping for tighter moderation when the pCARS 2 boards open so that they are as useful as they can be. Of course I'm not advocating a 'no fun allowed' policy, but boards for much simpler games than Project CARS have off-topic sections for very good reasons.
We also have an off-topic section, and it is used as well. We cannot move every single off-topic posting in a thread to there, that would make the off-topic section a complete mess. Forbidding people to make the occasional off-topic posting also won't make this a better place.

People do get focused answers on focused questions. What will make threads illegible is having them cover vage topics, like this one. To-the-point questions will get to-the-point answers, and those threads will be short. Broad topics will get broad answers of which many may not be interesting to you, and any thread going beyond 20 postings is bound to become difficult to follow or to find things in. That's just how forums work, this forum is not unique in that. Making a sweeping generalisation about forum and moderator quality because a particular thread you're interested in became too big to handle is not really fair.

F1_Racer68
05-07-2017, 13:17
I make the same question about "2016" RWD P30. 2016 Spec (upgrade) it's real, or it's a simple typing error? Because the 2013 RWD P30 was already very fast and competitive, having as only weak points its mechanical reliability and low power of the KERS in comparison to the KERS of Audi R18 e-tron Quattro and Toyota TS040. However in the last 3 weeks a good number of players started to practice a lot with the Toyota TS040 in PCARS1 (inspired by the lap record of Kamui Kobayashi at LeMans 2017 with TS050) and finally managed to overcome the RWD P30 at least in laptimes at LeMans, but the RWD P30 still have an advantage on Top Speed (without KERS) but this is good because so we have a variety of LMP1 cars that are competitive and even performance in one way or another but with different features and strengths. For example: The RWD has higher top speed on straight, the Toyota has the highest acceleration at the exit of the curves, the Audi a perfect traction and good passage through curves, and the Marek a less tire wear and very good mechanical reliability.

So perhaps a "small update" to match forces would not be bad, as long as it does not damage their current strengths points. At the most I hope they are just changes in the tires (you should use the same type of tires LMP1-H as Audi and Toyota) and the KERS who is the weakest of all.

Even so, hopefully in some future DLC the SMS guys can include more real LMP1 cars, both hybrids (example: Porsche 919, Toyota TS050) and non-hybrids (example: Peugeot 908, Audi R18 TDI, Lola B12/80, Aston Martin DBR1-2, Toyota TS030), since in a way a lot of players do not find it very funny to have to use fictional cars to fill the grill and for can win (RWD was the better LMP1 car at PCARS1), since between the Audi and the Toyota only have 5 cars, unless SMS has been able to design new liveries for those 2 cars and this have a greater visual variety and allow more players to participate in championships with those cars, since in the case of Toyota there is only #7 and #8, and there were races where more than 4 players wanted to use the Toyota but all looked the same.

It's an upgrade.

They upgraded the RWD P30........ from reading as 2013 to reading as 2016. :D

It's a FICTIONAL CAR. They can call it whatever year they want!!

Seriously people, some of these comments are getting downright ridiculous......... :hopelessness:

Mahjik
05-07-2017, 13:32
The lack of focus has often made me think twice about trying to contribute to discussions, and I have a lot of friends who used to frequent these boards who feel the same. Project CARS is a complicated game and this forum should be the go-to place for people to seek advice of share useful information, but the proliferation of in-jokes can sometimes be a barrier to that. So yes, I'm hoping for tighter moderation when the pCARS 2 boards open so that they are as useful as they can be. Of course I'm not advocating a 'no fun allowed' policy, but boards for much simpler games than Project CARS have off-topic sections for very good reasons.

To be fair, this section (not the entire forum) is for an unreleased title. There is only so much people can discuss on a daily basis so the moderation has been more relaxed on purpose. The goal is to have a community where people can come and hang out. If we were that strict right now, there would only be discussions in this section whenever BN released new information about PC2 which would make it lifeless most days of the week.

Moderation is still pretty strict in the other areas of the forum but this section is a little more open right now to due to the current state (i.e. unreleased and only limited information available).

RacingAtHome
05-07-2017, 13:36
It's an upgrade.

They upgraded the RWD P30........ from reading as 2013 to reading as 2016. :D

It's a FICTIONAL CAR. They can call it whatever year they want!!

Seriously people, some of these comments are getting downright ridiculous......... :hopelessness:

Exactly.

I don't see what the point is on having hybrids and non-hybrids and the whining about the Porsche and Toyota models. Car manufacturers are suspicious of literally everyone because there are people out there who want information. If we ever get a 2016 LMP1 in the next year, it will be the Audi because they're not in game anymore but it's essentially pointless because we've already got an Audi. I don't see what the problem is with the fictional cars. They're realistic unlike others. The Formula A is a 2011 spec F1 car, the Formula X looks to be a F1 2017 inspired model with more underbody downforce. It's not like the cars are created out of thin air like some other games.

ELAhrairah
05-07-2017, 13:52
To be fair, this section (not the entire forum) is for an unreleased title. There is only so much people can discuss on a daily basis so the moderation has been more relaxed on purpose. The goal is to have a community where people can come and hang out. If we were that strict right now, there would only be discussions in this section whenever BN released new information about PC2 which would make it lifeless most days of the week.

Moderation is still pretty strict in the other areas of the forum but this section is a little more open right now to due to the current state (i.e. unreleased and only limited information available).

Not to suck up or anything but you guys do a great job. I prefer this relaxed style and when the time comes yes there will be a new "official" forum for Pcars in which people can give their shit or like me keep whining for nicer rain physics on the windscreen.

Mascot
05-07-2017, 14:38
This is my unbiased opinion: you seem to have the questionable "ability" to hide an insult...
But i have been wrong before...:rolleyes:

You really do seem to have a personal problem with me Konan, and I've no idea why. I've been shown several posts that you've made about me on WMD2, and I don't really appreciate it, or understand it. And this was after I offered advice with your car speaker modding and offered you a place on the PS4 Pro beta to get Boost mode early (before I knew you didn't have a PS Pro). If you have a problem then please PM me about it.


Come on..really? I am here for over 2 years and every question I had was answered or at least brought to attention by most mods or other people reading it.

Yes, questions get answered but those answers tend to get lost in the sea of jokes.


We also have an off-topic section, and it is used as well. We cannot move every single off-topic posting in a thread to there, that would make the off-topic section a complete mess. Forbidding people to make the occasional off-topic posting also won't make this a better place.

People do get focused answers on focused questions. What will make threads illegible is having them cover vage topics, like this one. To-the-point questions will get to-the-point answers, and those threads will be short. Broad topics will get broad answers of which many may not be interesting to you, and any thread going beyond 20 postings is bound to become difficult to follow or to find things in. That's just how forums work, this forum is not unique in that. Making a sweeping generalisation about forum and moderator quality because a particular thread you're interested in became too big to handle is not really fair.

It's not really just this thread though, it's many threads. Hence the generalisation I made. But Mahjik has thrown more light on it below. I wouldn't have mentioned it if it wasn't an issue for me. But it is only my personal opinion.


To be fair, this section (not the entire forum) is for an unreleased title. There is only so much people can discuss on a daily basis so the moderation has been more relaxed on purpose. The goal is to have a community where people can come and hang out. If we were that strict right now, there would only be discussions in this section whenever BN released new information about PC2 which would make it lifeless most days of the week.

Moderation is still pretty strict in the other areas of the forum but this section is a little more open right now to due to the current state (i.e. unreleased and only limited information available).

Thank you.

I didn't mean to cause friction with my comments but it's something that's been bothering me for a while, and is something that other people have mentioned to me. I'm sure things will be more focused when pCARS 2 releases.

hkraft300
05-07-2017, 15:05
Mascot complains of derailed threads.
Derails thread :p

Silraed
05-07-2017, 16:56
He didn't do it on his own though, and I personally don't think he is completely wrong in his opinion.

So historic Spa, definitely confirmed then?

seb02
05-07-2017, 17:33
He didn't do it on his own though, and I personally don't think he is completely wrong in his opinion.

So historic Spa, definitely confirmed then?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKeGvzkuYTY

According to this video, it seems to me that we see Spa Historic (4'43)

Silraed
05-07-2017, 20:55
Awesome.

Schadows
20-07-2017, 09:19
Iirc PCars1 only allows 1 custom livery per car, not sure about it in PCars2.That would be interesting to know, indeed.
Do WMD members have to knowledge and the authorization to say if pcars 2 support multiple custom liveries per cars this time?

F1_Racer68
20-07-2017, 15:53
That would be interesting to know, indeed.
Do WMD members have to knowledge and the authorization to say if pcars 2 support multiple custom liveries per cars this time?

I'll be surprised if it supports them at all. I saw comments recently from an interview (with Stephan I think?) where it was made clear that there would be NO mod support this time due to the focus on eSports.

Mahjik
20-07-2017, 16:00
Skin support (at least initially) will be nearly identical to how PC1 works today.

dault3883
20-07-2017, 16:05
Skin support (at least initially) will be nearly identical to how PC1 works today.

so one custom skin per car if the license allows it (which mclaren did not last time) Speaking of mclaren and skins does that policy still hold or will we be able to skin a mclaren

FZA
20-07-2017, 16:57
so one skin per car if the license allows it (which mclaren did not last time) Speaking of mclaren and skins does that policy still hold or will we be able to skin a mclaren

wat :eek:

dault3883
20-07-2017, 17:07
wat :eek:

Custom skin like in Pcars 1

FZA
20-07-2017, 17:13
I never played pCars 1 so I don't know. So everytime I want to use a different custom skin I need to swap between them inside my game's folders?

dault3883
20-07-2017, 17:26
I never played pCars 1 so I don't know. So everytime I want to use a different custom skin I need to swap between them inside my game's folders?

yep if its for pcars2 the way its for pcars 1

banner77amc
20-07-2017, 17:28
100% know there will be racing and cars and race tracks in the game

dault3883
20-07-2017, 18:08
100% know there will be racing and cars and race tracks in the game

Very good my young padawan you are learning LOL JK

Schadows
20-07-2017, 21:09
I'll be surprised if it supports them at all. I saw comments recently from an interview (with Stephan I think?) where it was made clear that there would be NO mod support this time due to the focus on eSports.
On the contrary, if the focus is on eSport, than the game absolutely needs to support custom skin visible by all, because that way, teams would have their own skins, sponsors, etc.

dault3883
20-07-2017, 21:27
^^^^He has a very valid point

rosko
20-07-2017, 22:34
Their excuse is esports lol, do they think we are stupid?

Tank621
20-07-2017, 22:53
Their excuse is esports lol, do they think we are stupid?

That statement was about mod support- which makes perfect sense as certain clientside mods could give an unfair advantage in esports. It is simply easier and fairer to not have mod support