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Tank621
27-05-2017, 16:55
Your 1.5 mile intermediate tracks like Atlanta, Texas, and Charlotte are other good tracks but the races NASCAR has at watkins glen and sonoma are more like Demolition derbys that being said i love Rovals like Daytona and the old Charlotte Roval that will be used in Nascar next year

I'm glad there putting the roval on the calendar, the 2 road courses on the calendar already are some of the most exciting in NASCAR, I for one certainly would be upset if they replaced some of the races on the same track with some more road courses

dault3883
27-05-2017, 17:02
I'm glad there putting the roval on the calendar, the 2 road courses on the calendar already are some of the most exciting in NASCAR, I for one certainly would be upset if they replaced some of the races on the same track with some more road courses

but imagine the nightmare of finding a setup for the stock cars that work on both road course and speedway. they dont really have the ground clearance of a GT Car and are normally set up for either oval or roadcourse not normally both. Not to mention the only drivers that have experiance on Rovals are those that have raced in the Rolex 24 at daytona like Allmendinger, Jamie Mcmurray, Kyle Larson and the likes who have raced for Ganassi

Tank621
27-05-2017, 17:07
but imagine the nightmare of finding a setup for the stock cars that work on both road course and speedway. they dont really have the ground clearance of a GT Car and are normally set up for either oval or roadcourse not normally both. Not to mention the only drivers that have experiance on Rovals are those that have raced in the Rolex 24 at daytona like Allmendinger, Jamie Mcmurray, Kyle Larson and the likes who have raced for Ganassi

Exactly, that's what will make it exciting (I think we've gone a little off topic again haha)

dault3883
27-05-2017, 17:12
Exactly, that's what will make it exciting (I think we've gone a little off topic again haha)

oh well it happens LOL

Tank621
27-05-2017, 18:21
237889
Don't worry guys we're back on topic

dault3883
27-05-2017, 18:23
237889
Don't worry guys we're back on topic

Those are Aston Martin Tail Lights

Mowzer
27-05-2017, 18:29
Those are Aston Martin Tail Lights

I was thinking aston or Viper maybe?

Mowzer
27-05-2017, 18:31
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/GraleGuy16/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/2017-Dodge-Viper-VooDoo-Video.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/GraleGuy16/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/2017-Dodge-Viper-VooDoo-Video.jpg.html)

dault3883
27-05-2017, 18:32
I was thinking aston or Viper maybe?

doubt the viper Fiat put an ax to it because they realized it would be competing and taking attention away from their Precious Ferrari's

dault3883
27-05-2017, 18:33
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/GraleGuy16/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/2017-Dodge-Viper-VooDoo-Video.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/GraleGuy16/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/2017-Dodge-Viper-VooDoo-Video.jpg.html)

License plate location is too high on the viper definately an aston martin

Mowzer
27-05-2017, 18:34
You have to admit the rear lights are pretty similar though :D.

Mowzer
27-05-2017, 18:36
License plate location is too high on the viper definately an aston martin

Thats a good point i had not noticed that ;).

dault3883
27-05-2017, 18:38
You have to admit the rear lights are pretty similar though :D.

o they are and ur tail light picture made me do a double look and thats when i saw the licence plate lights placement was different between the two cars But it could be a Porsche too which is now after carefull consideration is what i think it is either a porsche or an aston martin

237890

Mowzer
27-05-2017, 18:44
o they are and ur tail light picture made me do a double look and thats when i saw the licence plate lights placement was different between the two cars But it could be a Porsche too which is now after carefull consideration is what i think it is either a porsche or an aston martin

237890

Yeah i was just looking at pucs of the 2018 911 gt3 and was going to say the exact same thing ;).

dault3883
27-05-2017, 18:54
Yeah i was just looking at pucs of the 2018 911 gt3 and was going to say the exact same thing ;).

i was looking for pictures of the aston martin rear end and found it i lean more towards the porsche now

Invincible
27-05-2017, 19:23
Well it ain't no Aston Martin, that's for sure. *chuckles*

dault3883
27-05-2017, 19:27
Well it ain't no Aston Martin, that's for sure. *chuckles*

its a dark picture i based my initial guess on the tail lights

KANETAKER
27-05-2017, 19:35
I hope the developers of PCARS2 also saw this car, the SCG003, taking into account the 24 hours of the Nurburgring they are currently disputing. That car (SP-X) marked the pole position in the Overall category (Surpassing the GT3 class).

237891

Also, hopefully also include more GT4 cars, considering the models that are competing in the same race, please. (example: Porsche Cayman GT4, Dodge Viper GT4).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qJDbQSp6mA

dault3883
27-05-2017, 19:37
I hope the developers of PCARS2 also saw this car, the SCG003, taking into account the 24 hours of the Nurburgring they are currently disputing. That car (SP-X) marked the pole position in the Overall category (Surpassing the GT3 class).

237891

Also, hopefully also include more GT4 cars, considering the models that are competing in the same race, please. (example: Porsche Cayman GT4, Dodge Viper GT4).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qJDbQSp6mA

i already requested that car this morning on the car wish list thread. Of course that thing is being disputed though 24 hours of nurburgring is a GT car race and that is practically a prototype

Tank621
27-05-2017, 19:45
237889
Don't worry guys we're back on topic

You know this might be the GT3 Porsche we already got a sneaky peak of in that Red Bull Ring video

dault3883
27-05-2017, 19:46
You know this might be the GT3 Porsche we already got a sneaky peak of in that Red Bull Ring video

you just might be right

wicken
27-05-2017, 20:17
There's also some GT1 car reveals.
"So, for instance, you’ll be able to run a 1998 Le Mans race, at a scanned Le Mans, complete with real-time weather, with cars such as the Mercedes-Benz CLK-LM, the Nissan R390 GT1 Long Tail that finished third, as well as the McLaren F1 GTR that finished fourth. And if you have the Motorsports Pack, you can even add the Panoz Esperante GTR-1 to that battle."

http://gamingbolt.com/project-cars-2-interview-with-andy-tudor-livetrack-3-0-esports-functions-career-mode-project-scorpio-and-more

dault3883
27-05-2017, 20:22
right now all that we have to go on that car is the tail lights and license plate area

hkraft300
27-05-2017, 20:26
There's also some GT1 car reveals.
"So, for instance, you’ll be able to run a 1998 Le Mans race, at a scanned Le Mans, complete with real-time weather, with cars such as the Mercedes-Benz CLK-LM, the Nissan R390 GT1 Long Tail that finished third, as well as the McLaren F1 GTR that finished fourth. And if you have the Motorsports Pack, you can even add the Panoz Esperante GTR-1 to that battle."

http://gamingbolt.com/project-cars-2-interview-with-andy-tudor-livetrack-3-0-esports-functions-career-mode-project-scorpio-and-more

*tears of joy*

dault3883
27-05-2017, 20:35
*tears of joy*

Must you be so Dramatic Hkraft? LOL JK

Zpectre87
27-05-2017, 21:31
911 GT1 not confirmed... :(

But Nissan R390 is a fantastic car, good to have it in! :)

breyzipp
27-05-2017, 21:34
There's also some GT1 car reveals.
"So, for instance, you’ll be able to run a 1998 Le Mans race, at a scanned Le Mans, complete with real-time weather, with cars such as the Mercedes-Benz CLK-LM, the Nissan R390 GT1 Long Tail that finished third, as well as the McLaren F1 GTR that finished fourth. And if you have the Motorsports Pack, you can even add the Panoz Esperante GTR-1 to that battle."

http://gamingbolt.com/project-cars-2-interview-with-andy-tudor-livetrack-3-0-esports-functions-career-mode-project-scorpio-and-more

From that article, what car is this? An Audi DTM or something?

http://gamingbolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/project-cars-2-.jpg

dault3883
27-05-2017, 21:36
From that article, what car is this? An Audi DTM or something?

http://gamingbolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/project-cars-2-.jpg

looks like the audi dtm car

breyzipp
27-05-2017, 21:48
From that article :

What are some vehicles and brands that we can look forward from the over 170 cars slated for Project CARS 2?

Andy Tudor: There are a lot of vehicle brands coming to Project CARS 2. One of the key goals with Project CARS 2 was to narrow down the “orphan” cars from the first game. So, for instance, you’ll be able to run a 1998 Le Mans race, at a scanned Le Mans, complete with real-time weather, with cars such as the Mercedes-Benz CLK-LM, the Nissan R390 GT1 Long Tail that finished third, as well as the McLaren F1 GTR that finished fourth. And if you have the Motorsports Pack, you can even add the Panoz Esperante GTR-1 to that battle. And to that, of course, you’ll soon be able to add some other high-profile brands—stay tuned for news on that coming very soon.

First of all I added the CLK LM and the R390 GT1 to the list, great cars. But note the parts in bold. I'm let's say 99% sure the Porsche 911 GT1-98 will be in the game as well. :) Andy Tudor of course knows all the cars and I think they've been focussing on the 1998 24h of Le Mans a lot, why else would he bring this up as an example? Here is the car participation list : link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans). Since he also mentions other high-profile brands in the same context you can bet that Porsche is in. If you first mention the other 3 cars from the 1998 Le Mans (CLK, R390, Panoz) and then start about other high profile brands..... right I can read between the lines TYVM! :) And I even think they will add the Ferrari 333 SP as well to that 1998 Le Mans line-up and I sincerely hope the Toyota GT-One will be too. And throw the BMW in there as well to make the list complete. :)

My guess is that their plan is to reveal Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini with E3 (Andy's referral to "very soon"), E3 is 13-15th June BTW so that is indeed very soon. :)

You can see and hear all the heroes from that era here: :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwUsJ24USNY

dault3883
27-05-2017, 21:52
From that article :


First of all I added the CLK LM and the R390 GT1 to the list, great cars. But note the parts in bold. I'm let's say 99% sure the Porsche 911 GT1-98 will be in the game as well. :) Andy Tudor of course knows all the cars and I think they've been focussing on the 1998 24h of Le Mans a lot, why else would he bring this up as an example? Here is the car participation list : link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans). Since he also mentions other high-profile brands in the same context you can bet that Porsche is in. If you first mention the other 3 cars from the 1998 Le Mans (CLK, R390, Panoz) and then start about other high profile brands..... right I can read between the lines TYVM! :) And I even think they will add the Ferrari 333 SP as well to that 1998 Le Mans line-up.

My guess is that their plan is to reveal Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini with E3 (Andy's referral to "very soon"), E3 is 13-15th June BTW so that is indeed very soon. :)

im still hoping out for the Sin R1 237901

Tank621
27-05-2017, 21:54
From that article :


First of all I added the CLK LM and the R390 GT1 to the list, great cars. But note the parts in bold. I'm let's say 99% sure the Porsche 911 GT1-98 will be in the game as well. :) Andy Tudor of course knows all the cars and I think they've been focussing on the 1998 24h of Le Mans a lot, why else would he bring this up as an example? Here is the car participation list : link (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans). Since he also mentions other high-profile brands in the same context you can bet that Porsche is in. If you first mention the other 3 cars from the 1998 Le Mans (CLK, R390, Panoz) and then start about other high profile brands..... right I can read between the lines TYVM! :) And I even think they will add the Ferrari 333 SP as well to that 1998 Le Mans line-up.

My guess is that their plan is to reveal Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini with E3 (Andy's referral to "very soon"), E3 is 13-15th June BTW so that is indeed very soon. :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwUsJ24USNY

I'm not much of a Porsche fan but that GT1 is a real beauty

dault3883
27-05-2017, 22:08
I'm not much of a Porsche fan but that GT1 is a real beauty

Dario Franchitti owns one and was at good wood earlier this year as was the guy i used to work with. he got me pictures and Dario's autograph

Tank621
27-05-2017, 22:10
Dario Franchitti owns one and was at good wood earlier this year as was the guy i used to work with. he got me pictures and Dario's autograph

Now that is pretty awesome

dault3883
27-05-2017, 22:13
yep he is going back for the actual deal this june and is going to try to get me Jackie Stewarts Autograph Too we only stopped working togeather because the Late model Stock car team we worked for the owner decided to get out and sell everything. the guy is a former nascar driver but i wont say who he is to respect his privacy

Tank621
27-05-2017, 22:18
Absolute legends the two of them

dault3883
27-05-2017, 22:24
Absolute legends the two of them

agreed and both Scottish LOL total coincidence that they are my favorite open wheel drivers ever along with Jenson Button

Jackie Stewart is my absolute favorite racer ever total respect for him

wicken
27-05-2017, 22:31
From that article, what car is this? An Audi DTM or something?

http://gamingbolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/project-cars-2-.jpg

Beware that the screenshot in question is from the early days of PC1 development so don't include it.

snipeme77
27-05-2017, 23:26
My question, will lmp900 cars mix with GT1? Or is it possible to mix classes now?

Also what about the Toyota GT-one, I'll be damned if that doesn't show up.

Oh hey, one more. The Nissan GTR LM that ran in GT1

dault3883
27-05-2017, 23:46
My question, will lmp900 cars mix with GT1? Or is it possible to mix classes now?

Also what about the Toyota GT-one, I'll be damned if that doesn't show up.

Oh hey, one more. The Nissan GTR LM that ran in GT1

the Toyota GT-one was a prototype it should be with the Lmp900's

breyzipp
28-05-2017, 00:12
the Toyota GT-one was a prototype it should be with the Lmp900's

No it's a GT1 car. Hense the name GT-One (GT-1). :) But TBH the difference between GT1 and prototypes was small as the GT1 cars were even beating the prototypes.

dault3883
28-05-2017, 00:17
No it's a GT1 car. Hense the name GT-One (GT-1). :) But TBH the difference between GT1 and prototypes was small as the GT1 cars were even beating the prototypes.

i dont care what they call it THAT is a Prototype in my opinion237902

Zpectre87
28-05-2017, 00:31
In 1999 the GT1 cars were dead already because nobody wanted to play with Mercedes in FIA GT anymore, so the leftover GT1 cars were much closer to LMPs than in previous years. One example is the Mercedes CLR. The 911 GT1 was already very prototype-like in 1998, too.

dault3883
28-05-2017, 00:33
In 1999 the GT1 cars were dead already because nobody wanted to play with Mercedes in FIA GT anymore, so the leftover GT1 cars were much closer to LMPs than in previous years. One example is the Mercedes CLR. The 911 GT1 was already very prototype-like in 1998, too.

agreed but the Toyota GT1 screams Prototype to me im not questioning what class it ran in just what class it should be classed as by todays standards

hkraft300
28-05-2017, 00:45
Didn't the last of the GT1 cars run as "GTP" eventually?

dault3883
28-05-2017, 00:47
Didn't the last of the GT1 cars run as "GTP" eventually?

dont know but if it looks like a prototype and runs like a prototype odds are it is a prototype LOL

breyzipp
28-05-2017, 01:08
The GT-One started in the GT1 class but indeed it was adapted to LMP later. The car also has platform code TS020 so that might ring a bell where our current TS050 originated from. :)

As for it looking as a prototype, so did most GT1 cars. Below are pictures of cars all running in the GT1 class back in 1998 at Le Mans.

Porsche 911 GT1-98:
http://www.autoblog.pt/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/1998LM26_car2.jpg

Nissan R390 GT1:
http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Nissan-R390-191.jpg

McLaren F1 GTR:
http://www.tenamp.com/real/mclaren-f1gtr-no40-le-mans-1998.jpg

Panoz Esperante GTR-1:
https://www.flatout.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/44-2.jpg

Mercedes-Benz CLK-LM:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/bb/10/24/bb1024d4363a24af49d035f1a6f7b504.jpg

Toyota GT-One:
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/ToyotaGT-OneMonterreyHistorics2005-MS6.jpg


I do agree though that the GT-One more has the looks of a modern LMP1 car than the other ones. Just shows how much ahead Toyota was back in the days on that part. :)

Azure Flare
28-05-2017, 01:12
At least the McLaren was actually based on the road car.

breyzipp
28-05-2017, 01:18
Just looked up some more info. The Toyota GT-One debuted in 1998 in Le Mans in the GT1 class. That year GT1 cars outperformed the LMP cars. So the FIA changed the rules and due to these rule changes the car ran in the GTLMP class the year after.

1998 sure was a weird year with manufacturers exploiting the rules and found a loopwhole to put cars in GT1 that should probably not have been there in the first place. :) But hey, that happened dozens of times in different motorsports. Chaparral probably had over half of its cars banned because they were so inventive. And didn't the Porsche 917K completely destroy Can-Am?

dault3883
28-05-2017, 01:18
At least the McLaren was actually based on the road car.

it was really the only one

breyzipp
28-05-2017, 01:19
At least the McLaren was actually based on the road car.

Most of these cars do have road cars as well, the road going version of that R390 is even in Forza 6. :)

dault3883
28-05-2017, 01:19
Again i reiterate im not disputing where it was in history only where it should be in the game

breyzipp
28-05-2017, 01:22
it was really the only one

No, ALL those cars had to have a road going version as well to enter. For each of those cars you find a homologated road car as well, the one for the GT-One you can find here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_GT-One#Road_version).
That loophole in the GT1 rules seemed to be that not many numbers were required and that was changed for the 1999 year.

breyzipp
28-05-2017, 01:23
Again i reiterate im not disputing where it was in history only where it should be in the game

It should be in the game where it historically raced....

It's not because it looks more like a modern LMP car that it should race with them. If you want to accurately replicate a 1998 Le Mans race then this GT-One has every right to race in the GT1 class.

Azure Flare
28-05-2017, 01:28
Most of these cars do have road cars as well, the road going version of that R390 is even in Forza 6. :)

They were required to have at least 1 road-going version in order to homologate the racecar. They were never required to have a production run of them though, only Porsche and Mercedes actually produced cars for customers.

dault3883
28-05-2017, 01:29
It should be in the game where it historically raced....

It's not because it looks more like a modern LMP car that it should race with them. If you want to accurately replicate a 1998 Le Mans race then this GT-One has every right to race in the GT1 class.

then you will have races that are stunk up by these cars just like real life its why they made a prototype class and why the toyota was eventually moved to it

breyzipp
28-05-2017, 01:35
then you will have races that are stunk up by these cars just like real life its why they made a prototype class and why the toyota was eventually moved to it

If history is any reference then Porsches 911 GT1-98 should be dominant as they did an overall 1-2 in 1998. And that's really the last thing I want to say about this. It seems we cannot agree, let's go back on subject.

hkraft300
28-05-2017, 01:39
Most of these cars do have road cars as well, the road going version of that R390 is even in Forza 6. :)

Toyota and Nissan built 1-2 road cars for homologation, but they were never sold.
Porsche and Mercedes sold a few road cars, now sitting in billionaire's garages rarely seeing the light of day.

dault3883
28-05-2017, 01:40
If history is any reference then Porsches 911 GT1-98 should be dominant as they did an overall 1-2 in 1998. And that's really the last thing I want to say about this. It seems we cannot agree, let's go back on subject.

i can agree on that buddy

snipeme77
28-05-2017, 03:32
237904

By the way, here's the 1995 GT1 class Skyline. Just in case you wanted to argue more about actual car class vs what it looks like it should race in.

In my opinion, GT1 and LMP 900 was basically one in the same in 1995-98. That's why I want a mixed class so bad, some really amazing cars in both cases. Also what about the Ferrari 333 SP, in my mind that was a prototype as it had a open cockpit. None of the GT1 cars had a open cockpit I don't think?

dault3883
28-05-2017, 03:39
237904

By the way, here's the 1995 GT1 class Skyline. Just in case you wanted to argue more about actual car class vs what it looks like it should race in.

no me and Breyzipp have agreed to disagree and leave it at that isnt that right Breyzipp? we are ready to get back on topic.

snipeme77
28-05-2017, 03:42
no me and Breyzipp have agreed to disagree and leave it at that isnt that right Breyzipp? we are ready to get back on topic.

Okay understandable. But I still think the GTR should be included in Pcars 2. I know it's a hint older, but compared to the crazier rest of the cars, the Skyline looks almost stock.

F1_Racer68
28-05-2017, 03:47
The GT-One started in the GT1 class but indeed it was adapted to LMP later. The car also has platform code TS020 so that might ring a bell where our current TS050 originated from. :)

As for it looking as a prototype, so did most GT1 cars. Below are pictures of cars all running in the GT1 class back in 1998 at Le Mans.

Porsche 911 GT1-98:
http://www.autoblog.pt/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/1998LM26_car2.jpg

Nissan R390 GT1:
http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Nissan-R390-191.jpg

McLaren F1 GTR:
http://www.tenamp.com/real/mclaren-f1gtr-no40-le-mans-1998.jpg

Panoz Esperante GTR-1:
https://www.flatout.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/44-2.jpg

Mercedes-Benz CLK-LM:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/bb/10/24/bb1024d4363a24af49d035f1a6f7b504.jpg

Toyota GT-One:
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/ToyotaGT-OneMonterreyHistorics2005-MS6.jpg


I do agree though that the GT-One more has the looks of a modern LMP1 car than the other ones. Just shows how much ahead Toyota was back in the days on that part. :)

All of them had road car versions for homologation purposes. Both Toyota and Nissan had only 1 road car version built, but that was enough to meet homologation needs at the time.

dault3883
28-05-2017, 03:47
237904

By the way, here's the 1995 GT1 class Skyline. Just in case you wanted to argue more about actual car class vs what it looks like it should race in.

In my opinion, GT1 and LMP 900 was basically one in the same in 1995-98. That's why I want a mixed class so bad, some really amazing cars in both cases. Also what about the Ferrari 333 SP, in my mind that was a prototype as it had a open cockpit. None of the GT1 cars had a open cockpit I don't think?


Okay understandable. But I still think the GTR should be included in Pcars 2. I know it's a hint older, but compared to the crazier rest of the cars, the Skyline looks almost stock.

My only problem with that is SMS has already confirmed a modified R34. Why would i want to drive a R32 is it when i can drive a R34?

snipeme77
28-05-2017, 03:51
My only problem with that is SMS has already confirmed a modified R34. Why would i want to drive a R32 is it when i can drive a R34?

That is a horrible way to look at it. Every single car has a history, a story. Video games like this one give that car's history a chance to be immortalized into the digital pages of history. Not only will the car exist on some old videos of lemans, but in a drivable form on a video game. Why have a Old F1 car when you could simply have the newest one? Why have old versions of tracks? Because they tell a story!

dault3883
28-05-2017, 03:58
That is a horrible way to look at it. Every single car has a history, a story. Video games like this one give that car's history a chance to be immortalized into the digital pages of history. Not only will the car exist on some old videos of lemans, but in a drivable form on a video game. Why have a Old F1 car when you could simply have the newest one? Why have old versions of tracks? Because they tell a story!

yes and my history with racing games started with the Pennzoil Nismo GTR on Gran Turismo 2 its got sentamental value to me the R32 simply looks too much like the Silvia of later years for my taste

snipeme77
28-05-2017, 04:05
yes and my history with racing games started with the Pennzoil Nismo GTR on Gran Turismo 2 its got sentamental value to me the R32 simply looks too much like the Silvia of later years for my taste

It kind of does. Oh well, budget cuts and all... lol. But no, I would love a simulation game to become a encyclopedia of the history of racing. Pcars is on track to do that, now all they need is a (well written) story driven career mode and I'll have my dream game.

dault3883
28-05-2017, 04:13
It kind of does. Oh well, budget cuts and all... lol. But no, I would love a simulation game to become a encyclopedia of the history of racing. Pcars is on track to do that, now all they need is a (well written) story driven career mode and I'll have my dream game.

Unfortunately its exactly that a dream you would need a Bill Gates super computer to run that sort of game or Iracing

ryandtw
28-05-2017, 06:14
I hope the developers of PCARS2 also saw this car, the SCG003, taking into account the 24 hours of the Nurburgring they are currently disputing. That car (SP-X) marked the pole position in the Overall category (Surpassing the GT3 class).

237891

Also, hopefully also include more GT4 cars, considering the models that are competing in the same race, please. (example: Porsche Cayman GT4, Dodge Viper GT4).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qJDbQSp6mA

Why is SMS disputing the 24h Nurburgring?

dault3883
28-05-2017, 06:55
Why is SMS disputing the 24h Nurburgring?

SMS isnt disputing the car The Officials and or teams of the race were disputing the car

TR 009
28-05-2017, 07:57
Hopefully the default controller settings are a lot better

Azure Flare
28-05-2017, 08:03
Hopefully the default controller settings are a lot better

They've already said they will be. But with any properly made racing game, a controller isn't going to cut it.

dault3883
28-05-2017, 08:07
They've already said they will be. But with any properly made racing game, a controller isn't going to cut it.

agreed best thing any of us can do is have invested in a decent wheel and pedal unit

breyzipp
28-05-2017, 09:07
They've already said they will be. But with any properly made racing game, a controller isn't going to cut it.

You'd be surprised if even the most serious sim has decent controller support what some artists can pull out of their sleeves with a controller. I have a decent sim setup but due to a knee injury have to divert to a controller for now. I consider myself an average sim racer at best but I had great fun with that controller in PCARS1 already, games like Dirt Rally and the Forza series work great with a controller as well. In the end that's what's most important. The only game that doesn't work well with a controller (for me at least) is Assetto Corsa. But then I've read somewhere that a controller player liked Assetto over PCARS1 with a controller.

If some day a sim racing wheel for handicapped people (not being able to use legs) is on the market (where you control the gas and brakes with analog inputs on top of the steering wheel itself) I would buy it instantly. I can use my wheel setup periodically but certainly not as much as I want to. And it's best to let my knee rest so that's why I mainly focus on a controller now.

In the end it's up to us how we play the games & sims we enjoy, maybe by choice, maybe forced. And we can be grateful that multiple controller input options are possible.

Tank621
28-05-2017, 09:34
Yeah I've always found the contoller very agreeable for the majority of the time I've playing, at worst it's a little awkward to correct over steer particularly in some of the older cars like the group 5's but once I got used to it I've found so much more enjoyable than say Forza (a game I have played and enjoyed for years) where the cars all feel the same and even with all assists off the cars still feel tame. As for Assetto its always felt a bit clumsy with a controller to me at least but can still be great fun every so often

Zpectre87
28-05-2017, 10:07
GTR2 is good with a controller, the problem is that in newer systems you can't get vibration in Xbox controllers anymore.

pCARS is one of the better sims to use a controller with, which to many people gives the impression that it's "inferior". In reality, it's just because input filtering in the game is superior to other sims.

rosko
28-05-2017, 11:12
I think there will be some very happy faces with the GT1 lineup in Pcars 2.

F1_Racer68
28-05-2017, 12:57
You'd be surprised if even the most serious sim has decent controller support what some artists can pull out of their sleeves with a controller. I have a decent sim setup but due to a knee injury have to divert to a controller for now. I consider myself an average sim racer at best but I had great fun with that controller in PCARS1 already, games like Dirt Rally and the Forza series work great with a controller as well. In the end that's what's most important. The only game that doesn't work well with a controller (for me at least) is Assetto Corsa. But then I've read somewhere that a controller player liked Assetto over PCARS1 with a controller.

If some day a sim racing wheel for handicapped people (not being able to use legs) is on the market (where you control the gas and brakes with analog inputs on top of the steering wheel itself) I would buy it instantly. I can use my wheel setup periodically but certainly not as much as I want to. And it's best to let my knee rest so that's why I mainly focus on a controller now.

In the end it's up to us how we play the games & sims we enjoy, maybe by choice, maybe forced. And we can be grateful that multiple controller input options are possible.

Ironically, my very first wheel was perfect for the purposes of someone unable to use pedals. This was many, many, many years ago.... Force Feedback wasn't even a thing yet.... The wheel was a Thrustmaster Grand Prix 1. The "shifter paddles" where the accelerator (right paddle) and the brake (left paddle).

dault3883
28-05-2017, 13:03
Ironically, my very first wheel was perfect for the purposes of someone unable to use pedals. This was many, many, many years ago.... Force Feedback wasn't even a thing yet.... The wheel was a Thrustmaster Grand Prix 1. The "shifter paddles" where the accelerator (right paddle) and the brake (left paddle).

i wonder if you could still do that today if you used the automatic transmission in the game?

F1_Racer68
28-05-2017, 13:14
i wonder if you could still do that today if you used the automatic transmission in the game?

Shifting was done by 2 buttons on the wheel. The paddles were directly controlling 2 pots, you had 2 buttons on the wheel itself for shifting and 2 additional buttons on the wheel base.

http://www.cyberg8t.com/f2comp/prodgp1.htm

dault3883
28-05-2017, 13:17
Shifting was done by 2 buttons on the wheel. The paddles were directly controlling 2 pots, you had 2 buttons on the wheel itself for shifting and 2 additional buttons on the wheel base.

http://www.cyberg8t.com/f2comp/prodgp1.htm

what i was trying to ask is if you switched the game to automatic and you had say a Logitec G29 if you could use the paddles for throttle and brakes

hkraft300
28-05-2017, 13:29
what i was trying to ask is if you switched the game to automatic and you had say a Logitec G29 if you could use the paddles for throttle and brakes

You could assign the paddles for brake and throttle, but it'd be very on/off digital. No modulation. So ABS and TC would be a must.
Might be better off with a gamepad.

dault3883
28-05-2017, 13:35
You could assign the paddles for brake and throttle, but it'd be very on/off digital. No modulation. So ABS and TC would be a must.
Might be better off with a gamepad.

ok i was just wondering out of curiosity to help a fellow racer on here

breyzipp
28-05-2017, 14:21
You could assign the paddles for brake and throttle, but it'd be very on/off digital. No modulation. So ABS and TC would be a must.
Might be better off with a gamepad.

Yes indeed. When I first had my knee injury I even tried remapping gas and brakes to the paddle shifters in GT6 (or just buttons on front of the wheel, I'm not sure) but the on/off behaviour really is a killer, so a controller is for sure better than current wheels on the market.

The ideal wheel configuration to use without legs/feet IMO would be based on just any current wheel layout on the market but there would need to be 2 extra analog input "spring-rollers" (*) for your thumbs on both sides of the wheel. Left thumb would be brakes, right thumb would be gas. Paddle shifters behind the wheel could still be used for manual gear changing, of course the absense of a clutch would mean gearing would be semi-automatic. Or maybe a clutch button could be placed very close to that right hand spring-roller since to use a clutch you would release your gas shortly anyway.

(*) what I mean with these spring-rollers is something along the lines of this :

http://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/content/8/0/8024_19_corsair-k95-rgb-platinum-mechanical-keyboard-review.jpg

That's the keyboard I have now and that grey cylinder-shaped roller is to adjust my speaker volume. If that could be made as an analog input that moves back to it's initial position by a spring then voila, you have the spring-roller I was talking about. :P

Until something like that exists it's mainly the controller for me and only very short periods of time on my sim rig. I'm also completely getting into rallycross at the moment (can't wait for Dirt 4 tbh, I'm SOOOOO pumped) and the hectic nature of car control there probably means I will just stick to the controller. As I said before, in Dirt Rally the rallycross already works really nice with just the basic settings of the XBox controller.

dault3883
28-05-2017, 14:32
Yes indeed. When I first had my knee injury I even tried remapping gas and brakes to the paddle shifters in GT6 (or just buttons on front of the wheel, I'm not sure) but the on/off behaviour really is a killer, so a controller is for sure better than current wheels on the market.

The ideal wheel configuration to use without legs/feet IMO would be based on just any current wheel layout on the market but there would need to be 2 extra analog input "spring-rollers" (*) for your thumbs on both sides of the wheel. Left thumb would be brakes, right thumb would be gas. Paddle shifters behind the wheel could still be used for manual gear changing, of course the absense of a clutch would mean gearing would be semi-automatic. Or maybe a clutch button could be placed very close to that right hand spring-roller since to use a clutch you would release your gas shortly anyway.

(*) what I mean with these spring-rollers is something along the lines of this :

http://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/content/8/0/8024_19_corsair-k95-rgb-platinum-mechanical-keyboard-review.jpg

That's the keyboard I have now and that grey cylinder-shaped roller is to adjust my speaker volume. If that could be made as an analog input that moves back to it's initial position by a spring then voila, you have the spring-roller I was talking about. :P

Until something like that exists it's mainly the controller for me and only very short periods of time on my sim rig. I'm also completely getting into rallycross at the moment (can't wait for Dirt 4 tbh, I'm SOOOOO pumped) and the hectic nature of car control there probably means I will just stick to the controller. As I said before, in Dirt Rally the rallycross already works really nice with just the basic settings of the XBox controller.

that sucks i was just trying to help you buddy

FS7
28-05-2017, 15:04
I consider myself an average sim racer at best but I had great fun with that controller in PCARS1 already, games like Dirt Rally and the Forza series work great with a controller as well. In the end that's what's most important. The only game that doesn't work well with a controller (for me at least) is Assetto Corsa. But then I've read somewhere that a controller player liked Assetto over PCARS1 with a controller.
Imo the difference is that PCars1 default controller setup is too sensitive while AC default controller setup is not sensitive enough (I play both games on PC with a Xbox360 controller), so in the end which one feels better might come down to player preference. Neither game's controls feels exactly the way I want even after making adjustments, though.

breyzipp
28-05-2017, 17:27
Imo the difference is that PCars1 default controller setup is too sensitive while AC default controller setup is not sensitive enough (I play both games on PC with a Xbox360 controller), so in the end which one feels better might come down to player preference. Neither game's controls feels exactly the way I want even after making adjustments, though.

Hmmm strange for me (with XBox Elite Controller on XBox One 1TB) Assetto Corsa is WAY oversensitive while PCARS1 was just crazy. Until I followed a YouTube guide for PCAR1 controller settings that makes it more or less acceptable on most cars, still ugly on most other cars and really good on juist a few cars. But all that might also be due to the fact that you need a 1st degree in rocket science to be able to understand all the settings with ZERO description info (and that HUGE blank page on the right side is just insult to injury). Forza and Dirt rally controller input is way superior to both PCARS1 and Assetto. At least PCARS works for some cars, Assetto simply works for none (but is brilliant with a a wheel).

proterra1
28-05-2017, 17:32
Toyota LMP1 confirmed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFNvc2zVg-8&feature=push-lbss&attr_tag=bszoLBjOIfoHu2YW-6

Mowzer
28-05-2017, 17:54
Toyota LMP1 confirmed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFNvc2zVg-8&feature=push-lbss&attr_tag=bszoLBjOIfoHu2YW-6

Video is not working been removed by user :-/.

dault3883
28-05-2017, 18:03
Video is not working been removed by user :-/.

yes that was already confirmed on another thread it was put on

Mowzer
28-05-2017, 18:32
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/GraleGuy16/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/Project-CARS-2-Porsche.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/GraleGuy16/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/Project-CARS-2-Porsche.jpg.html)
Porsche 935 Modydick
https://www.gtplanet.net/leaked-project-cars-2-trailer-reveals-porsche-rallycross-trucks-more/

dault3883
28-05-2017, 18:36
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/GraleGuy16/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/Project-CARS-2-Porsche.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/GraleGuy16/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/Project-CARS-2-Porsche.jpg.html)
Porsche 935 Modydick
https://www.gtplanet.net/leaked-project-cars-2-trailer-reveals-porsche-rallycross-trucks-more/

Now we need the Chevy Monza to add to the already ford Capri 237911

Mowzer
28-05-2017, 18:38
The Chevy Monza looks so much like the Opel Manta we have in europe :).

dault3883
28-05-2017, 18:45
The Chevy Monza looks so much like the Opel Manta we have in europe :).

i want that too but i want the FoxTail Edition and it probly is General Motors that owns Chevy used to own Opel till a few years ago

Invincible
28-05-2017, 19:08
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/GraleGuy16/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/Project-CARS-2-Porsche.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/GraleGuy16/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2017-05/Project-CARS-2-Porsche.jpg.html)
Porsche 935 Modydick
https://www.gtplanet.net/leaked-project-cars-2-trailer-reveals-porsche-rallycross-trucks-more/

That's not a moby dick.

That's a Moby Dick:
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Mowzer
28-05-2017, 19:10
Ops i thought that was a Mobydick thats just a 935 then?

dault3883
28-05-2017, 19:11
That's not a moby dick.

That's a Moby Dick:
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Ops i thought that was a Mobydick thats just a 935 then?

either one with the monza and the capri from the first game would give you three makes to make a race series out of

Invincible
28-05-2017, 21:09
either one with the monza and the capri from the first game would give you three makes to make a race series out of

Nah, the Moby Dick would smash them. 845 hp and better aerodymics vs. 500 - 600ish figures which the other Gr.5 cars had.

dault3883
28-05-2017, 21:17
Nah, the Moby Dick would smash them. 845 hp and better aerodymics vs. 500 - 600ish figures which the other Gr.5 cars had.

still the capri needs companion cars to compete against it and the Monza and the Black porsche above would be great additions for its companions

Tank621
28-05-2017, 21:19
For the record we aren't putting leaked content on the list, official events/sources only. There is always the possibility that pre-release content won't make it, this happened with Pcars 1 and can happen again.
Remember that leaked trailer/intro is only a placeholder and all placeholders can be expected to change

Mowzer
28-05-2017, 21:52
Ah my bad i thought it was leaked stuff too ;).

dault3883
28-05-2017, 22:03
For the record we aren't putting leaked content on the list, official events/sources only. There is always the possibility that pre-release content won't make it, this happened with Pcars 1 and can happen again.
Remember that leaked trailer/intro is only a placeholder and all placeholders can be expected to change


Ah my bad i thought it was leaked stuff too ;).

Tanker sure knows how to spoil a mood LOL JK buddy thats ur job and this is pretty much ur thread

Tank621
28-05-2017, 22:12
Tanker sure knows how to spoil a mood LOL JK buddy thats ur job and this is pretty much ur thread

Well Breyzipp's the one doing all the list work, I'm just quick at spotting stuff

dault3883
28-05-2017, 22:18
Well Breyzipp's the one doing all the list work, I'm just quick at spotting stuff

i know but he couldnt right it don if you didnt spot it

wicken
30-05-2017, 14:50
Well Breyzipp's the one doing all the list work, I'm just quick at spotting stuff
You're not that quick :D

Return of Renault Sport R.S. 01
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11469/image20_575px.jpg

Lamborghini Huracan GT3 in the middle
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11469/image21_575px.jpg

You can watch a brief instance of the Renault Sport R.S. 01 racing against each other over here, skip to 33 minutes - http://wccftech.com/nvidia-rumored-debut-new-volta-graphics-card-computex-tomorrow-watch-live-keynote/

hkraft300
30-05-2017, 15:14
Eagle eye is strong with this one.

hkraft300
30-05-2017, 15:21
What's in front of the huracan?

TexasTyme214
30-05-2017, 15:32
What's in front of the huracan?

Ginetta

breyzipp
30-05-2017, 15:43
Is it the Huracan GT3 now or the Super Trofeo?
Same question for the RS01, is it the standard one (for single make races) or the GT3 version that ran for example in the Hankook 24h of Dubai?

Need these details before I can add them but thx for the post nevertheless!

TexasTyme214
30-05-2017, 15:45
Is it the Huracan GT3 now or the Super Trofeo?
Same question for the RS01, is it the standard one (for single make races) or the GT3 version that ran for example in the Hankook 24h of Dubai?

Need these details before I can add them but thx for the post nevertheless!

I think we might see both Lamborghinis!

hkraft300
30-05-2017, 16:37
Is it the Huracan GT3 now or the Super Trofeo?
Same question for the RS01, is it the standard one (for single make races) or the GT3 version that ran for example in the Hankook 24h of Dubai?

Need these details before I can add them but thx for the post nevertheless!

Huracan GT3.
It's racing with an Audi and a


Ginetta

And the RS01 is in a 1-make race in that picture.

wicken
30-05-2017, 16:38
Is it the Huracan GT3 now or the Super Trofeo?
Same question for the RS01, is it the standard one (for single make races) or the GT3 version that ran for example in the Hankook 24h of Dubai?

Need these details before I can add them but thx for the post nevertheless!
I would say it's the GT3 variant. Even for showcase events, it wouldn't make any sense to see a single make car racing against GT3.

Regarding the RS01, we only had the single make variant in PCARS so my guess, it's the same that we saw above. (If SMS wanted to increase the GT3 count, I wouldn't be surprised if we had both)

Tank621
30-05-2017, 16:47
I would say it's the GT3 variant. Even for showcase events, it wouldn't make any sense to see a single make car racing against GT3.

Regarding the RS01, we only had the single make variant in PCARS so my guess, it's the same that we saw above. (If SMS wanted to increase the GT3 count, I wouldn't be surprised if we had both)

I'd hardly say we need the RS01 GT3 but the more the merrier I suppose. As much as I hope for both I wouldn't call it tragedy if the GT3 didn't make it

breyzipp
30-05-2017, 17:48
I'd hardly say we need the RS01 GT3 but the more the merrier I suppose. As much as I hope for both I wouldn't call it tragedy if the GT3 didn't make it

Yep fully agree with you there Tank. Actually since we have so many GT3 already I wouldn't even mind having an RS01 as a one-make racer. Otherwise it gets lost in the pack of 10+ GT3 racers anyway, if it stays separate then we have the GT3 pack and the RS01 as GT racers near the GT3 class performance. :) I also respected the Clio Cup in PC1 for that reason. And I'm sure rallycross with the OSME Supercars Lite (which is a one-make category in rallycross as well) will also be tons of fun. :)

So what do you guys think, shall I add the Huracan as GT3 and the RS01 as separate then? Judging from the screenshots I'd go with this as well.

Tank621
30-05-2017, 17:53
Yep fully agree with you there Tank. Actually since we have so many GT3 already I wouldn't even mind having an RS01 as a one-make racer. Otherwise it gets lost in the pack of 10+ GT3 racers anyway, if it stays separate then we have the GT3 pack and the RS01 as GT racers near the GT3 class performance. :) I also respected the Clio Cup in PC1 for that reason. And I'm sure rallycross with the OSME Supercars Lite (which is a one-make category in rallycross as well) will also be tons of fun. :)

So what do you guys think, shall I add the Huracan as GT3 and the RS01 as separate then? Judging from the screenshots I'd go with this as well.

Yeah and you can always change it if we get some new info

snipeme77
30-05-2017, 18:47
Any word on the Gumpert Apollo GT3/GTE car?

breyzipp
30-05-2017, 18:59
Yeah and you can always change it if we get some new info

Done. I assume the RS01 is the strongest modern GT car we have in the game now right? Since I want to keep the modern racing series assorted from weakest to strongest. When I read this on Wikipedia :


In 2015, Renault decided to expand the R.S. 01 to Group GT3 racing. Due to the shift, Renault detuned the car and added weight. The engine's power was decreased to 500 hp (from 550 hp), but with the torque remaining the same. The car got a 125 kg increase in weight from its heavier chassis and new ballast. The original carbon-ceramic brakes have been swapped out with steel rotor varieties. The ride height was also raised, and the aerodynamics have been changed to comply with GT3 regulations.

I don't know the RS01 that well (apart from it being a lovely ride in PC1 :p) but when I read how much it was detuned to comply with GT3 regulations then I would think the car is also stronger than the GTE class cars right? Since the differences between GT3 and GTE are not THAT big I would think? I've seen some posts passing by here about the differences between the M6 GT3 and GTE but didn't really read it much in detail.

Anyway is it safe to say the RS01 in it's 2015-2016 Renault Sport Trophy series spec is the strongest GT racing series car in PCARS 2 so far? Hence why I put it at the top (err bottom :P) of the line in the modern GT / touring series. So from weaker to stronger we have: Clio Cup > GT5 > GT4 > GT3 > GTE > RS01. Correct?

snipeme77
30-05-2017, 19:07
Done. I assume the RS01 is the strongest modern GT car we have in the game now right? Since I want to keep the modern racing series assorted from weakest to strongest. When I read this on Wikipedia :



I don't know the RS01 that well (apart from it being a lovely ride in PC1 :p) but when I read how much it was detuned to comply with GT3 regulations then I would think the car is also stronger than the GTE class cars right? Since the differences between GT3 and GTE are not THAT big I would think? I've seen some posts passing by here about the differences between the M6 GT3 and GTE but didn't really read it much in detail.

Anyway is it safe to say the RS01 in it's 2015-2016 Renault Sport Trophy series spec is the strongest GT racing series car in PCARS 2 so far? Hence why I put it at the top (err bottom :P) of the line in the modern GT / touring series. So from weaker to stronger we have: Clio Cup > GT5 > GT4 > GT3 > GTE > RS01. Correct?

If we're talking strictly speed yes

BTW we're at 88 cars now

wicken
30-05-2017, 19:36
Any word on the Gumpert Apollo GT3/GTE car?

What have you drunk mate? I want some of that too. :D

snipeme77
30-05-2017, 20:25
What have you drunk mate? I want some of that too. :D

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Um. Poweraid?

wicken
30-05-2017, 20:52
237928

Um. Poweraid?

I was joking with you but I never heard such thing as a Gumpert GT3 / GTE car. I always assumed it was only just a street legal car.

F1_Racer68
30-05-2017, 21:15
Done. I assume the RS01 is the strongest modern GT car we have in the game now right? Since I want to keep the modern racing series assorted from weakest to strongest. When I read this on Wikipedia :



I don't know the RS01 that well (apart from it being a lovely ride in PC1 :p) but when I read how much it was detuned to comply with GT3 regulations then I would think the car is also stronger than the GTE class cars right? Since the differences between GT3 and GTE are not THAT big I would think? I've seen some posts passing by here about the differences between the M6 GT3 and GTE but didn't really read it much in detail.

Anyway is it safe to say the RS01 in it's 2015-2016 Renault Sport Trophy series spec is the strongest GT racing series car in PCARS 2 so far? Hence why I put it at the top (err bottom :P) of the line in the modern GT / touring series. So from weaker to stronger we have: Clio Cup > GT5 > GT4 > GT3 > GTE > RS01. Correct?

Most of those M6 posts were probably mine :(

The M6 is a unique case, because it's only a GTLM version (IMSA series only), but here is the general difference between GT3 and GTE:

- GT3 allows ABS, GTE does not
- GTE has more "efficient" aero, meaning more downforce, yet less drag
- GTE is slightly lighter than GT3
- GTE has larger wheels/tires and therfore more grip (this is what produces the main speed differential over GT3)
- Fuel tank capacities are different

In general, there aren't a lot of cars that appear in both classes. Ferrari 488, Aston Martin Vantage and BMW M6 (GTLM) are the only ones that come to mind. THE Porsche 911 is a completely different beast between GTE and GT3 as the GTE version has a more "mid-engine" layout vs the traditional rear engine layout on the GT3s

Horsepower tends to be pretty similar between the classes. Weight, aero and tires are what accoutn for the speed differences, and the lack of ABS in GTE is the main significant difference. Actually, to clarify, GTE allows TC ONLY. No ABS and no stability control, whereas GT3 allows whatever aids the production version has (minus AWD).

dault3883
30-05-2017, 23:35
Cool so the Renault RS01 is confirmed thats sweet

breyzipp
31-05-2017, 05:46
Most of those M6 posts were probably mine :(

The M6 is a unique case, because it's only a GTLM version (IMSA series only), but here is the general difference between GT3 and GTE:

- GT3 allows ABS, GTE does not
- GTE has more "efficient" aero, meaning more downforce, yet less drag
- GTE is slightly lighter than GT3
- GTE has larger wheels/tires and therfore more grip (this is what produces the main speed differential over GT3)
- Fuel tank capacities are different

In general, there aren't a lot of cars that appear in both classes. Ferrari 488, Aston Martin Vantage and BMW M6 (GTLM) are the only ones that come to mind. THE Porsche 911 is a completely different beast between GTE and GT3 as the GTE version has a more "mid-engine" layout vs the traditional rear engine layout on the GT3s

Horsepower tends to be pretty similar between the classes. Weight, aero and tires are what accoutn for the speed differences, and the lack of ABS in GTE is the main significant difference. Actually, to clarify, GTE allows TC ONLY. No ABS and no stability control, whereas GT3 allows whatever aids the production version has (minus AWD).

Thanks for that info. Seems the main speed difference between GTE and GT3 is in corners then, on the straights they are closer together I suppose. Either way, for sure the RS Trophy RS01 is supposedly harder better faster stronger then than the GTE class. :) Glad the car makes it back and I prefer the RS Trophy spec to be honest so we have something different in the world of GT racing as well than all the GT3 and GTE's. ;)

SlowBloke
31-05-2017, 13:15
Lotsa Porsches to add :):) !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6-X5_CC6IE&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=fwczGu_KRDGyqJMj-6

Tank621
31-05-2017, 13:29
Some proper icons in the lineup, 918, 935, 936, 962, 911 GT1 and more

Wait is it a 956 or 962, I can't tell the difference? Or is there both?

And there's more road cars of course but, I personally cannot tell the difference between them

I'm no Porsche fan but they've certainly got some great classics in there

As for Breyzipp, who has to work this all out...
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Invincible
31-05-2017, 13:34
Some proper icons in the lineup, 918, 935, 936, 962, 911 GT1 and more

Wait is it a 956 or 962, I can't tell the difference? Or is there both?

And there's more road cars of course but, I personally cannot tell the difference between them is

962 it is.

1185323118
31-05-2017, 13:35
I was joking with you but I never heard such thing as a Gumpert GT3 / GTE car. I always assumed it was only just a street legal car.

http://www.topcarrating.com/gumpert/2012-gumpert-apollo-r.jpg
They did a "Apollo R" back when they had some extra $$, it was never raced, probably built close to GT2 spec?

BTW I remember RS01 had a GT3 spec version, maybe they can add it to the game? want to see RS01 race with other GT3 cars though

KANETAKER
31-05-2017, 13:40
Lotsa Porsches to add :):) !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6-X5_CC6IE&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=fwczGu_KRDGyqJMj-6

Finally !! The Porsche 911 GT1-98 and Porsche 962 arrives to PCARS 2 !! =D

But... Where is the Porsche 911 GTE and the Porsche 919 Hybrid LMP1 ? =(

wicken
31-05-2017, 13:45
From my perspective, these are the Porsche models featured in the trailer. Thoughts????

Porsche 911 GT1-98
Porsche 918 Spyder Weissach
Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport MR
Porsche 935/80
Porsche 935/77
Porsche 911 GT3 RS
Porsche 911 GT3 R
Porsche 936 Spyder
Porsche 962C
Porsche 962C Langheck

Tank621
31-05-2017, 13:52
Finally !! The Porsche 911 GT1-98 and Porsche 962 arrives to PCARS 2 !! =D

But... Where is the Porsche 911 GTE and the Porsche 919 Hybrid LMP1 ? =(

Who says this is an exhaustive list, there could be more yet to announced, I reckon the LMP1s, LMP2s and GTEs will announced closer to the Le Mans 24 hours

breyzipp
31-05-2017, 14:13
Ouch I have 2 busy nights (and a daytime job) so won't be able to add the new cars until Friday night. So patience, post update will come.

PS - I was right about speculating the 911 GT1-98 after seeing those other GT1's from the 1998 Le Mans race. ;)

Mowzer
31-05-2017, 14:30
So i was right with the 935 then lol?

KANETAKER
31-05-2017, 14:34
Who says this is an exhaustive list, there could be more yet to announced, I reckon the LMP1s, LMP2s and GTEs will announced closer to the Le Mans 24 hours

Similar to the announcement launched a day after Indy500? (Where they confirmed the oval tracks and IndyCar vehicles at PCARS2).

Roger Prynne
31-05-2017, 14:37
There's more to come yet guys... but I'm sworn to secrecy.

Mowzer
31-05-2017, 14:39
There's more to come yet guys... but I'm sworn to secrecy.

Oh you tease :).

Tank621
31-05-2017, 15:02
So i was right with the 935 then lol?

Yeah, looks like group 5 is shaping up to be alot of fun

Roger Prynne
31-05-2017, 17:33
Oh you tease :).

That I am :D

Zpectre87
31-05-2017, 19:33
In general, there aren't a lot of cars that appear in both classes. Ferrari 488, Aston Martin Vantage and BMW M6 (GTLM) are the only ones that come to mind. THE Porsche 911 is a completely different beast between GTE and GT3 as the GTE version has a more "mid-engine" layout vs the traditional rear engine layout on the GT3s

The 991 GT3 is a beefed up Cup car. The current GTE however is almost a prototype.

FS7
31-05-2017, 20:10
I remember Ian Bell mentioning on GTP that SMS has a schedule for releasing info, pics, videos, etc, up until the game's release date. They've been releasing teasers pretty much every day for a while now, so that's something to keep in mind if your favorite car or track hasn't been confirmed yet.

DECATUR PLAYA
31-05-2017, 20:50
I remember Ian Bell mentioning on GTP that SMS has a schedule for releasing info, pics, videos, etc, up until the game's release date. They've been releasing teasers pretty much every day for a while now, so that's something to keep in mind if your favorite car or track hasn't been confirmed yet.

Yeah we got a ways to go until Septemberish. With what's been announced already should be a interesting couple of months coming as far as announcements go.

RacingAtHome
31-05-2017, 20:59
Wednesdays, E3, Le Mans week and Gamescom are the big events usually.

Stewy32
31-05-2017, 21:10
I think that the Dallara DW12 will not be divided by engine manafacturers

Invincible
31-05-2017, 21:13
I think that the Dallara DW12 will not be divided by engine manafacturers

That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

Stewy32
31-05-2017, 21:15
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

Ok Thanks

breyzipp
31-05-2017, 21:43
The 991 GT3 is a beefed up Cup car. The current GTE however is almost a prototype.

They are not even the same platform IIRC, wasn't the platform for the 2017 911 GTE something completely new? It's first race ever was Daytona 24h this year If I'm not mistaken.

breyzipp
31-05-2017, 22:16
That Porsche 936 is great, finally a buddy for the awesome Renault Alpine A442B if it returns from Project CARS 1. :)

1978 Le Mans ftw. :)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans

Le Mans was already confirmed as laser scanned and there is a heavy car focus on 1998 already, I soooooo hope we get a classic Le Mans as well. And I'm sure there will be an article about modern Le Mans and LMP1 near the middle of june when it's 24h of Le Mans time again (and E3 :p).

Here you can see all the different versions of Le Mans :
http://racingcircuits.info/europe/france/le-mans/#.WS8-QGiGOUk

I hope for at least 1 pre-1990 version with the long Mulsane straight. Since the Porsches 935, 936 and that A442B raced there mid to late 70s only focussing on those cars I would say the 1976-1978 layout is pretty much ideal. But if you count in other cars then for sure the 1979-1985 layout is better. It spans a lot more years and completely covers what we have for group 5 as well (which is late 70s, early 80s).

So pumped... :P

Will do the car list update friday evening.

hkraft300
01-06-2017, 00:08
They are not even the same platform IIRC, wasn't the platform for the 2017 911 GTE something completely new? It's first race ever was Daytona 24h this year If I'm not mistaken.

2017 911 GTE is a new platform. They pushed the engine forward of the rear axle. Shock, horror.

RacingAtHome
01-06-2017, 00:44
I think that the Dallara DW12 will not be divided by engine manafacturers

True. However, they're divided by aerokit designers. Which is the same thing.

Azure Flare
01-06-2017, 02:43
They pushed the engine forward of the rear axle. Shock, horror.

Which means this car is not actually based on the road car. Waivers be damned, this car is basically a prototype.

hkraft300
01-06-2017, 08:19
Which means this car is not actually based on the road car. Waivers be damned, this car is basically a prototype.

Z4 road car never had a V8. If the new 911 is a prototype, what's it make the Z4 GT3/E?
What about the front engine cars that push the motor, driver seat, dash, steering all further back for better weight distribution?
It's not that far out of the norm.

I agree in that they should based more closely to road cars, and that waivers shouldn't be handed out so easily.

hkraft300
01-06-2017, 08:48
911 GT1 confirmed.
Backflips or simcade, bro.

(Yes, I know, wrong model year but 'ave a larf)

Invincible
01-06-2017, 09:38
911 GT1 confirmed.
Backflips or simcade, bro.

(Yes, I know, wrong model year but 'ave a larf)

Well, physics are modeled correctly ;)

Zpectre87
01-06-2017, 12:21
I don't know if it's the 1997 or 1998 model, but I do like the 1997 model better. :D The 1998 911 GT1 was a prelude to what would happen in the following year, with much more specialized cars.

breyzipp
01-06-2017, 22:20
I added the Porsches. Let me know if anything is wrong.

road cars
modern road
2016 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991.1)
2013 Porsche 918 Spyder

GT racing
group 5 / IMSA GTX racing
1977 Porsche 935/77
1980 Porsche 935/80

group 6
1976 Porsche 936

retro GT1 racing
1998 Porsche 911 GT1-98

modern GT4
2016 Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport

modern GT3
2016 Porsche 911 GT3 R (991)

prototype
retro Group C / IMSA GTP
1985 Porsche 962C Short Tail
1988 Porsche 962C Long Tail

MillsLayne
01-06-2017, 22:43
More Group 5 cars!? YES!

Zpectre87
01-06-2017, 23:11
Then I don't understand why hkraft300 said the 911 GT1 is the "wrong" model year. All the other cars are from 1998, so the Porsche fits right in. :D

The only time I've driven this car in a game besides Porsche Unleashed was the fantastic mod for GTR2 by GMT. We're in for a treat!

F1_Racer68
01-06-2017, 23:44
I think he meant it in the sense that it's the "wrong" one vs. the one that went airborne. This happened in 1997.......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxhax4v0JPQ

Since we are getting the 1998 version, it's the "wrong" one in relation to his joke about "backflips or simcade" ;)

breyzipp
02-06-2017, 05:55
BTW I will also split up the 'modern road' group this weekend since it's starting to become a bit too big and it won't be in game like this anyway. I hope SMS gives it a bit better group names in PC2 instead of road A, B, C and D.

I'm thinking more like :
open wheeler (e.g. BAC Mono, KTM Xbox, that Honda 2-4 thing, Caterham, Ariel, etc)
hot hatch (Audi S1, Ford Focus, Honda Civic, ...)
sports car (Lancer Evo, Ford Mustang, ...)
supercar (Audi R8, ...)
hypercar (918 Spyder, LaFerrari, ...)

wwc
02-06-2017, 07:43
Will the time trials still be broke on ps4?

hkraft300
02-06-2017, 08:14
Will the time trials still be broke on ps4?

The 5L fuel is broken but that's on all platforms.
What is specifically not working for you in TT?

Tank621
02-06-2017, 15:29
From the Ford GT article
'In 2016, Ford would line up at Le Mans for the first time since 1969. Back then it was with the GT40 Mk.IV (that you will find in Project CARS 2). That entry was also the last of a series of wins for their Ford GT40, extending all the way back to that epic race of 1966.'

Tank621
02-06-2017, 19:03
I've always foumd the choice of the Mark IV an interesting one, surely the Mark II is the more famous model of GT40. Still it is a fantastic machine and a unique choice in racing games so it can only be a good thing to see it return

dault3883
02-06-2017, 20:07
I've always foumd the choice of the Mark IV an interesting one, surely the Mark II is the more famous model of GT40. Still it is a fantastic machine and a unique choice in racing games so it can only be a good thing to see it return

Mark IV is what i see as the beginning of prototypes

Tank621
02-06-2017, 20:14
Hopefully we will see its arch-nemesis the Ferrari 330 P4 in the game, I sure hope we see some Ferrari announcements soon, there is fantastic potential for historic racing in particular

breyzipp
02-06-2017, 20:21
I've always foumd the choice of the Mark IV an interesting one, surely the Mark II is the more famous model of GT40. Still it is a fantastic machine and a unique choice in racing games so it can only be a good thing to see it return

And I'm glad we have the Mk IV, if I have to choose between both it would be the IV for sure, it's way better looking than the Mk II IMO and it was already such a sweet ride in PCARS1. Can't wait to see what they've done to it in PCARS2 in terms of sound & tyre model.

Of course if the Mk II would make it in as well that'd be great too. But I already drove with that one in a lot of games, GT6 and FM6 are the first I can think about.

snipeme77
02-06-2017, 21:53
237957

Maybe some placeholder cars or a different class maybe?

Edit, Could that Gray car be a Spyker?
The one on the left is most likely the already confirmed C7 Vette

Here's the list of GTE Eligible cars

Aston Martin Vantage GT2/GTE
BMW M3 GT2
BMW Z4 GTE
BMW M6 GTLM
Chevrolet Corvette C6.R
Chevrolet Corvette C7.R
Ferrari F430 GT2
Ferrari 458 Italia GT2
Ferrari 488 GTE
Ford GT GT2
Ford GT LM GTE
Jaguar XKR GT2
Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4
Lotus Evora GTE
Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
Porsche 911 RSR
Spyker C8 GT2R
SRT Viper GTS-R[3]


And yes, I know Tesla doesn't have a GT car but Pcars 2 is including concepts so... Maybe Tesla wants to field a GT car at Le Mans one day?

RacingAtHome
02-06-2017, 22:05
237957

Maybe some placeholder cars or a different class maybe?

Edit, Could that Gray car be a Spyker?

Here's the list of GTE Eligible cars

Aston Martin Vantage GT2/GTE
BMW M3 GT2
BMW Z4 GTE
BMW M6 GTLM
Chevrolet Corvette C6.R
Chevrolet Corvette C7.R
Ferrari F430 GT2
Ferrari 458 Italia GT2
Ferrari 488 GTE
Ford GT GT2
Ford GT LM GTE
Jaguar XKR GT2
Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4
Lotus Evora GTE
Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
Porsche 911 RSR
Spyker C8 GT2R
SRT Viper GTS-R[3]


And yes, I know Tesla doesn't have a GT car but Pcars 2 is including concepts so... Maybe Tesla wants to field a GT car at Le Mans one day?

There's a mix of GTE and GT3. It doesn't mean anything.

snipeme77
02-06-2017, 22:07
There's a mix of GTE and GT3. It doesn't mean anything.

Well of course it does... I would still like to know what these cars are.

snipeme77
02-06-2017, 22:10
237958

Okay maybe it isn't a Tesla? It would be a hell of a way to show off the range of the batteries though a 24 hour race.

Tank621
02-06-2017, 22:22
The one on the left looks like a Corvette

snipeme77
02-06-2017, 22:27
The one on the left looks like a Corvette

Actually I'm glad you said that, I think you're right

cluck
02-06-2017, 22:46
As per my post over on GT Planet, there are (at least) 3 Corvettes and 3 Ford GT LMs in that image. Even on the 4K original that's floating around somewhere on t'web, you'll be hard pressed to work out the others. The 4th car back does have a bumper similar to a 650S but I can't be 100% certain on that. I do know, however, that there are definitely only GTE and/or GT3 cars in the image :).

snipeme77
02-06-2017, 22:52
As per my post over on GT Planet, there are (at least) 3 Corvettes and 3 Ford GT LMs in that image. Even on the 4K original that's floating around somewhere on t'web, you'll be hard pressed to work out the others. The 4th car back does have a bumper similar to a 650S but I can't be 100% certain on that. I do know, however, that there are definitely only GTE and/or GT3 cars in the image :).

I'm not sure I can agree but IDK, I still that that red and yellow car is a 360, and the gray one is a prototype of some sort. Way too narrow of a windscreen to be a McLaren

Would like to see the 4k version

Azure Flare
03-06-2017, 01:16
I'm not sure I can agree but IDK, I still that that red and yellow car is a 360, and the gray one is a prototype of some sort.

How badly do you wan your bubble to be burst?

Stewy32
03-06-2017, 18:18
I think the prototype is a Nissan GTR- LM. Also confirms factory Aston liveries I think.

Stewy32
03-06-2017, 18:19
I also think the 360 is a Porsche

Tank621
03-06-2017, 19:50
I also think the 360 is a Porsche

Looks a bit like a Porsche but I think it looks more like another Corvette, it really is impossible to tell with the cars that far away

Mad Al
03-06-2017, 19:56
Definitely a Reliant Robin....

gregc
03-06-2017, 19:57
Definitely a Reliant Robin....

Nah. Looks like a Saab to me.

Konan
03-06-2017, 20:01
Take your pick guys...

237960

breyzipp
03-06-2017, 20:21
Or we still going on about yesterday's post from the previous page? Or am I missing something? :)

Tank621
03-06-2017, 20:27
Or we still going on about yesterday's post from the previous page? Or am I missing something? :)

Yeah we're still talking about the cars in the background of the Ford Gt picture

F1_Racer68
03-06-2017, 20:28
Take your pick guys...

237960

Not the red and black one on the right..... That one's mine :p

Azure Flare
03-06-2017, 20:41
Not sure, but I think the car in the foreground might be a Ram.

https://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2014/12/23/16/40/2015_ram_1500-pic-6009247825213223984-640x480.jpeg

The roofline looks very similar.

snipeme77
04-06-2017, 16:00
237963
Ford V8 super car confirmed on Facebook.

wicken
04-06-2017, 16:04
237963
Ford V8 super car confirmed on Facebook.

Has been known on GTPlanet for quite a whilr. The problem is, you don't know if it's the old car from PCARS1 or the FG X.

poirqc
04-06-2017, 20:11
Just drove the Ruf RGT-8, again.

I hope the Rufs come back. I know Porsche will be there but those are just awesome! :D

dault3883
04-06-2017, 20:20
Just drove the Ruf RGT-8, again.

I hope the Rufs come back. I know Porsche will be there but those are just awesome! :D

i dont think they will they are pretty much the same Rufs are essentially modified Porsche's and i think its going to be porsche's

Tank621
04-06-2017, 20:48
i dont think they will they are pretty much the same Rufs are essentially modified Porsche's and i think its going to be porsche's

The only people to lose out on the EA license deal ending are Ruf, I kinda feel sorry for them

dault3883
04-06-2017, 20:52
The only people to lose out on the EA license deal ending are Ruf, I kinda feel sorry for them

so do i kinda of but then again Ruf dont actually participate in Racing only Porsche Does. RUF may be recognised as a maufacturer but they are essentially just a interior/exterior Customization house with some light Drive train modding i think.

Azure Flare
04-06-2017, 21:53
so do i kinda of but then again Ruf don't actually participate in Racing only Porsche Does. RUF may be recognized as a manufacturer but they are essentially just a interior/exterior Customization house with some light Drive train modding i think.

Ruf is recognized by both the German and US governments as their own manufacturer. They might have started out as a Porsche tuner, but these days, their are cars are technically not Porsches.

dault3883
04-06-2017, 22:07
Ruf is recognized by both the German and US governments as their own manufacturer. They might have started out as a Porsche tuner, but these days, their are cars are technically not Porsches.

They still use Porsche's as their base their fore they do not make their own cars Technically. Just Heavily Modify Porsche's cars

rosko
04-06-2017, 23:31
The Ruf yellowbird is pretty unique in handling whether its based on porsche of not. Either Way it ain't coming.

dault3883
04-06-2017, 23:34
The Ruf yellowbird is pretty unique in handling whether its based on porsche of not. Either Way it ain't coming.

Ruf yellow bird is a fun car i remember driving it on Gran Turismo 2 as a kid

Azure Flare
05-06-2017, 00:18
They still use Porsche's as their base their fore they do not make their own cars Technically. Just Heavily Modify Porsche's cars

They are not "modified Porsches". The cars have their own VIN plates that say Ruf, not Porsche. So again, they ARE their own manufacturer.

dault3883
05-06-2017, 00:33
They are not "modified Porsches". The cars have their own VIN plates that say Ruf, not Porsche. So again, they ARE their own manufacturer.

"Ruf vehicles are derived from unmarked Porsche chassis, specifically known as a body in white." Yes they are Classed as thier own "Manufacturer" but they still use Porsche Chassis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruf_Automobile

breyzipp
05-06-2017, 01:17
"Ruf vehicles are derived from unmarked Porsche chassis, specifically known as a body in white." Yes they are Classed as thier own "Manufacturer" but they still use Porsche Chassis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruf_Automobile

Not for the latest RUF.


Today at the Geneva Motor Show, RUF introduced to the world a fitting tribute to the Yellow Bird: The 2017 RUF CTR, a brand-new, rear-engine speed freak that, for the first time in RUF history, is built on a completely bespoke chassis rather than a production Porsche platform—even though the styling is straight out of Porsche's history book.

source: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/geneva-auto-show/news/a32845/2017-ruf-ctr-faithful-tribute-yellow-bird-930-turbo/

dault3883
05-06-2017, 01:29
Not for the latest RUF.



source: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/geneva-auto-show/news/a32845/2017-ruf-ctr-faithful-tribute-yellow-bird-930-turbo/

Most of their main line up is still based off of Porsche Chassis though

Zpectre87
05-06-2017, 01:56
Ruf uses Porsche chassis. The reason they're classed as manufacturers by the TÜV is purely legal. I'm pretty sure it's because they assemble the cars themselves, therefore they're considered distinct manufacturers.

However, since they're closely related to Porsche, they're able to turn an existing Porsche into a Ruf, too, though the car will remain a Porsche in the documents.

For the record, Alpina is considered a manufacturer, too.

Kelderek
05-06-2017, 10:47
RUF is all of the above: They're a Porsche tuner and a car manufacturer.

The latest creation, the 2017 RUF CTR is all RUF, there is not a single Porsche part in that one.

The RGT-8, RT 12R and others are made from Porsche bodies, but have a RUF VIN number stamped into those bodies, so they are technically RUF's, not Porsches. Of the about 60 or so original CTR Yellowbirds built, 29 were "real" RUF's (= RUF VIN numbered) and the rest converted Porsches.

You can leave your Porsche to RUF and they will do whatever you want (or budget allows) to it. But it will remain a Porsche.
Furthermore, they offer restauration of historic Porsches. And sell body kits, wheels, tuning kits etc to Porsches...

So what comes out of the RUF workshop can be a RUF, a Porsche or something in between.

Jocker
05-06-2017, 18:34
The V8 Supercar is included on PC2 ?

dault3883
05-06-2017, 18:45
The V8 Supercar is included on PC2 ?

we still dont know that if it was it would be on the list at the beginning of the thread

Tank621
05-06-2017, 18:49
The V8 Supercar is included on PC2 ?

I think the Ford Falcon was confirmed but we don't know which year it is

breyzipp
05-06-2017, 19:04
I think the Ford Falcon was confirmed but we don't know which year it is

evidence my friend! :) and i will add it even without a year :)

Tank621
05-06-2017, 19:40
evidence my friend! :) and i will add it even without a year :)

I'm sure I saw a screenshot of a reply somewhere, I'll get looking for it
237986

Oh and I've got another category to add
237987

RacingAtHome
05-06-2017, 19:40
evidence my friend! :) and i will add it even without a year :)

https://twitter.com/projectcarsgame/status/870919198473670656

dault3883
05-06-2017, 19:44
https://twitter.com/projectcarsgame/status/870919198473670656

well there you go Breyzipp

breyzipp
05-06-2017, 20:02
Added them both. :) That class list under GT & touring gets a bit long too, I should split it as well since it will probably be split in the game as well like in PCARS1 right? To be honest I'm not so sure what exactly is the difference between a GT class and a touring class. I'll have a go, correct me if im wrong :)

copy/pasting my titles here from the front page before I split them up.

GT =
historic racing
group 5 / IMSA GTX racing
group 6 racing
retro IMSA GT racing (GTO & GTS)
retro GT1 racing
modern GT5
modern GT4
modern GT3 (previous gen.)
modern GT3 (current gen.)
modern GTE / GTLM
Renault Sport Trophy

touring =
group A racing
Clio Cup
TCR
stock cars
V8 Supercars


Meanwhile I'll fire up PCARS1 as well to check, I believe under free play (or quick play or whatever) you can see how they are split up there.

dault3883
05-06-2017, 20:04
Added them both. :) That class list under GT & touring gets a bit long too, I should split it as well since it will probably be split in the game as well like in PCARS1 right? To be honest I'm not so sure what exactly is the difference between a GT class and a touring class. I'll have a go, correct me if im wrong :)

copy/pasting my titles here from the front page before I split them up.

GT =
historic racing
group 5 / IMSA GTX racing
group 6 racing
retro IMSA GT racing (GTO & GTS)
retro GT1 racing
modern GT5
modern GT4
modern GT3 (previous gen.)
modern GT3 (current gen.)
modern GTE / GTLM
Renault Sport Trophy

touring =
group A racing
Clio Cup
TCR
stock cars
V8 Supercars


Meanwhile I'll fire up PCARS1 as well to check, I believe under free play (or quick play or whatever) you can see how they are split up there.

sounds good to me

DECATUR PLAYA
05-06-2017, 20:53
I'm sure I saw a screenshot of a reply somewhere, I'll get looking for it
237986

Oh and I've got another category to add
237987

HOT DAMN!!!!! There we go. Wishlist complete. Now just need release date.

breyzipp
05-06-2017, 20:58
Ok I split the touring cars and GT cars, mainly following how they are categorized in PCARS1. 2 remarks :

1) I did notice the BMW M1 was in Group 4 in PCARS1 and after checking some online info, it seems to have only been racing in procar one-make championships? And later group 4? I don't think it ever raced as a group 5 car so I put it in its separate class.
2) PCARS 1 has the stock cars as a completely separate division while that V8 supercar is under touring. I prefer to keep stock cars under touring as well then since it's quite similar to V8 supercars anyway, right? :) /ducks to avoid incoming rotten tomatoes and eggs. ;-)

snipeme77
05-06-2017, 21:14
It's just a American thing, stock cars are touring cars to the rest of the world, so you're fine

Mahjik
05-06-2017, 21:46
It's just a American thing, stock cars are touring cars to the rest of the world, so you're fine

Naw, touring cars turn much better.... ;)

snipeme77
05-06-2017, 21:49
Naw, touring cars turn much better.... ;)

At much lower speeds...

Had you said they have freaking horrible brakes, agree 1000%

breyzipp
05-06-2017, 21:57
Naw, touring cars turn much better.... ;)

... and in both directions ;)

snipeme77
05-06-2017, 22:01
237992

dault3883
05-06-2017, 22:54
237992

thats not in game thats a real life shot

Azure Flare
05-06-2017, 23:59
237993

Now it's proper NASCAR!

RacingAtHome
06-06-2017, 00:02
237993

Now it's proper NASCAR!

False. This is proper NASCAR!
http://www.zerofiltered.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/os-austin-dillon-crash-nascar-coke-zero-400-pictures-20150706.jpg

MillsLayne
06-06-2017, 00:12
2) PCARS 1 has the stock cars as a completely separate division while that V8 supercar is under touring. I prefer to keep stock cars under touring as well then since it's quite similar to V8 supercars anyway, right? :) /ducks to avoid incoming rotten tomatoes and eggs. ;-)

I think having Supercars labeled as touring and the stock cars as stock cars were the right ways to go in terms of car class. Just think of American short track racing as being somewhat a (and just one) stepping stone to NASCAR. You'd never find touring cars racing on pure ovals. Plus, like what was already stated, the cars are quite a bit different in terms of overall handling. Stock cars are like sluggish tanks, whereas the Supercars actually handle fairly well in comparison.

dault3883
06-06-2017, 00:46
False. This is proper NASCAR!
http://www.zerofiltered.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/os-austin-dillon-crash-nascar-coke-zero-400-pictures-20150706.jpg

right about there austin dillon is thinking this is going to hurt

Azure Flare
06-06-2017, 01:28
right about there austin dillon is thinking this is going to hurt

And Hamlin's GPS is saying "recalculating".

dault3883
06-06-2017, 01:47
And Hamlin's GPS is saying "recalculating".

40 car's ON STAR is contacting Emergency rescue crews to route them to the ACCIDENT LOL

Olijke Poffer
06-06-2017, 05:12
False. This is proper NASCAR!
http://www.zerofiltered.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/os-austin-dillon-crash-nascar-coke-zero-400-pictures-20150706.jpg

It should be called CRASHCAR instead..

Konan
06-06-2017, 05:39
(N)ow
(A)ll
(S)imply
(C)rash
(A)nd
(R)etire

Lol

breyzipp
06-06-2017, 06:09
False. This is proper NASCAR!


237994

:)

breyzipp
06-06-2017, 06:13
I think having Supercars labeled as touring and the stock cars as stock cars were the right ways to go in terms of car class. Just think of American short track racing as being somewhat a (and just one) stepping stone to NASCAR. You'd never find touring cars racing on pure ovals. Plus, like what was already stated, the cars are quite a bit different in terms of overall handling. Stock cars are like sluggish tanks, whereas the Supercars actually handle fairly well in comparison.

You're probably right, for now I'll keep them where they are though since the touring car section doesn't have too many cars yet and for stock cars there is only a vage rumor about them returning. PCARS 1 only had 2 of them, the classic Caper Monterey Stockcar and then the modern Ford Fusion stockcar. Once we get more details about the specific stockcars then I'll separate them.

breyzipp
06-06-2017, 12:10
(N)ow
(A)ll
(S)imply
(C)rash
(A)nd
(R)ace

Lol

Maybe change the R to Retire :)

Konan
06-06-2017, 13:13
Good one...done! :cool:

Tank621
06-06-2017, 16:15
237996

breyzipp
06-06-2017, 16:20
Great, more hot hatches! :-)

Will add it tonight

dault3883
06-06-2017, 16:47
(N)ow
(A)ll
(S)imply
(C)rash
(A)nd
(R)etire

Lol

ACTUALLY

(N)ational
(A)ssosiation
for
(S)tock
(C)ar
(A)uto
(R)acing

is the proper acronym

Tank621
06-06-2017, 16:57
ACTUALLY

(N)ational
(A)ssosiation
for
(S)tock
(C)ar
(A)uto
(R)acing

is the proper acronym

Yeah, but that's not nearly as accurate a description of a NASCAR race

dault3883
06-06-2017, 17:06
Yeah, but that's not nearly as accurate a description of a NASCAR race

maybe so but its still what it stands for. Only Brian France is killing the sport, its why i stopped being a fan. I wasnt going to watch the sport die.

Tank621
06-06-2017, 17:11
maybe so but its still what it stands for. Only Brian France is killing the sport, its why i stopped being a fan. I wasnt going to watch the sport die.

In recent years it has been clear that they value TV ratings over competition that's for sure, then again with Indycar's huge growth (I think they had 50% viewer growth in only 3 years) I'm not suprised they are getting worried

dault3883
06-06-2017, 17:15
In recent years it has been clear that they value TV ratings over competition that's for sure, then again with Indycar's huge growth (I think they had 50% viewer growth in only 3 years) I'm not suprised they are getting worried

they also care about attracting new fans more than they do keeping the old fans

but again were going off topic

Konan
06-06-2017, 18:46
ACTUALLY

(N)ational
(A)ssosiation
for
(S)tock
(C)ar
(A)uto
(R)acing

is the proper acronym


...so,that's actually naFscar...:p

dault3883
06-06-2017, 19:28
...so,that's actually naFscar...:p

technicaly Acronym's dont include words like for, and and in the acronym

poirqc
06-06-2017, 19:28
I hope the R8 is better this time. While i enjoyed most pCars 1 content, the R8 always felt weird. I hope it's better in pCars 2!

dault3883
06-06-2017, 19:42
I hope the R8 is better this time. While i enjoyed most pCars 1 content, the R8 always felt weird. I hope it's better in pCars 2!

it always felt fine to me how did it feel weird to you? Be a little more descriptive.

cluck
06-06-2017, 22:25
I'm not sure I can agree but IDK, I still that that red and yellow car is a 360, and the gray one is a prototype of some sort. Way too narrow of a windscreen to be a McLaren

Would like to see the 4k versionYou're in luck (https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectcarsgame/35094701426/in/album-72157676521274764/) :D

The pCARS2 Flickr page has been updated with COTA and Ford GT shots, some of which are in glorious 4K-o-vision :yes:

poirqc
06-06-2017, 22:49
it always felt fine to me how did it feel weird to you? Be a little more descriptive.

Well, i would be bummed if i bought a a sports car that feel that loose from the factory. I mean, i drove a real F430 on a race track, it's super tight. It feels like a rocket. From my limited search, both those cars are in the same price range. It could probably be fixed throught a run across the garage, i don't know. The default setup on AC felt more planted.

The GT3 version is alright.

dault3883
06-06-2017, 23:02
Well, i would be bummed if i bought a a sports car that feel that loose from the factory. I mean, i drove a real F430 on a race track, it's super tight. It feels like a rocket. From my limited search, both those cars are in the same price range. It could probably be fixed throught a run across the garage, i don't know. The default setup on AC felt more planted.

The GT3 version is alright.

it felt fine to me but im also used to a loose race car from all my years of playing nascar games

rosko
06-06-2017, 23:08
no way that grey is a prototype, it's just another ford gt or the KTM X-Bow GT4. red & yellow is pretty obvious just going by the paint.

Bealdor
07-06-2017, 13:14
http://www.projectcarsgame.com/newspc2/porsche-comes-to-project-cars-2?lang=en


911 GT1-98
911 GT3 R (991)
911 GT3 R Endurance (991)
911 GT3 RS
918 Spyder
935/77
935/80
936 Spyder
962C
962C Langheck
Cayman GT4 Clubsport

Tank621
07-06-2017, 13:16
http://www.projectcarsgame.com/newspc2/porsche-comes-to-project-cars-2?lang=en

Damn it you beat me by 1 minute
Good to see the official list though.

dault3883
07-06-2017, 13:31
http://www.projectcarsgame.com/newspc2/porsche-comes-to-project-cars-2?lang=en

I cant wait for the Porsche 935 THAT is one SEXY Car

F1_Racer68
07-06-2017, 13:33
So you both read the article, but did either of you catch the release date announcement hidden in it? :D

Very last sentence.......

"Accept no substitute. Porsche in Project CARS 2, coming September 22, 2017. Click Here To Pre-Order"​

dault3883
07-06-2017, 13:34
So you both read the article, but did either of you catch the release date announcement hidden in it? :D

Very last sentence.......

"Accept no substitute. Porsche in Project CARS 2, coming September 22, 2017. Click Here To Pre-Order"​

yes i saw that but i already commented on it in the other thread the 99% we are certain about thread

Tank621
07-06-2017, 13:47
Sorry for my ignorance but what are the differences between the 935/77 and 935/80?