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DECATUR PLAYA
10-06-2017, 22:25
or the 2018 indy car is closer to the formula x as the formula x was in development before the 2018 indy car was as stated either earlier in this thread or in another one

I was trying to figure out what car that was so that's formula x. Just wrote it off as being a Indy car. You guys got some good eyes and I have watched that trailer about 25 times.

dault3883
10-06-2017, 22:26
I was trying to figure out what car that was so that's formula x. Just wrote it off as being a Indy car. You guys got some good eyes and I have watched that trailer about 25 times.

i just repeated what another user commented on that car earlier i take no credit

snipeme77
10-06-2017, 22:28
Do we have any performance info on the FX?

dault3883
10-06-2017, 22:29
Do we have any performance info on the FX?

ask a wmd member or moderator if they can tell you any thing on it they might

Mad Al
10-06-2017, 23:04
Do we have any performance info on the FX?

Very quick....


and by quick I mean it can hit 200mph on the Brands Hatch Indy circuit...!

proterra1
10-06-2017, 23:49
It's not 170+ cars anymore, in a recent video or article I even saw 180+ so we got a few extra's in already. ;)

Do you know if that's at launch or if that includes DLC? If that is the launch count, with DLC it'll be over 200!

F1_Racer68
10-06-2017, 23:55
Do you know if that's at launch or if that includes DLC? If that is the launch count, with DLC it'll be over 200!

They stated 170+ "At launch" originally. It's now increased. Not sure if that increase is with teh special/limited edition, preorder extras.

KANETAKER
11-06-2017, 03:12
Do we have any performance info on the FX?

In theory, it is assumed that any of those futuristic or advanced versions of F1 are representations of what should be the moderns F1 of this 2017 without all those STUPID restrictions of technology, research+development, costs, speed and power imposed by the FIA under the excuses to reduce the Costs and expenses of the equipment, and for the safety of the drivers because these xtreme F1 cars can exceed more of 400 km/h at the straights (500 - 600 Km/h in the case of the RedBull X1 from GranTurismo 5 & 6).

These restrictions also include all those technological innovations that certain equipment implemented in their respective cars in a certain season (with success) but on the edge of the regulation, and that the following year of its implementation the FIA banned them by considering them "illegal" to the Take advantage of other cars. To name a list of several of the gadgets and news that have been banned (for example):

- Active Suspension (Williams 1992)
- Anti-lock brakes (ABS), traction control (TC), telemetry, fly-by-wire controls, pneumatic valve springs, power steering, semi-automatic transmission, a fully automatic transmission and also continuously variable transmission (Williams 1993)
- Mass Damper (Renault 2006)
- Hubcap at wheels (2007 - 2009)
- Slick Tires (banned at 1998 - reintroduced in 2009)
- "Double" diffuser (Brawn GP 2009)
- F-Duct (McLaren 2010)
- Blown diffuser (RedBull 2011)
- Blowers exhaust (RedBull 2012)
- "Double" DRS + F-Duct (Mercedes 2012)
- Flexible Wings&Aero (Redbull 2013)

As for the performance of the F1 cars, it would be necessary to go back until the seasons 2003, 2004 and 2005 of F1; period in which some of the most powerful v10 engines (like BMW, Honda, Mercedes and Ferrari) reached 21,000 rpm and around 1000 Hp. In the case of F1 extremes, in addition to having all that power, you would have to determine what type of engines would use: Atmospheric or turbo, and how many valves (v6, v8, v10 or v12) taking into account that the v10 and v12 engines are the most noisy and attractive for the F1 fans.

Finally, to those 1000 HP would have to add the extra power that would provide the hybrid recovery systems (ERS or KERS), being able to reach more than 1500 HP in case of employing 10 megajoule (as the modern LMP1-H).

With all that data, you would get a real rocket transformed into a powerful racing car, the fastest in history. The only negative point is that due to its extreme speed you would have to use only large and fast tracks according to these cars (like Monza, LeMans, Spa, Daytona, Indianápolis, Norschleife), since it would be impossible to use them in small circuits (like Monaco, Macao, Hungaroring, Marina Bay, Brands Hatch).

snipeme77
11-06-2017, 04:04
In theory, it is assumed that any of those futuristic or advanced versions of F1 are representations of what should be the moderns F1 of this 2017 without all those STUPID restrictions of technology, research+development, costs, speed and power imposed by the FIA under the excuses to reduce the Costs and expenses of the equipment, and for the safety of the drivers because these xtreme F1 cars can exceed more of 400 km/h at the straights (500 - 600 Km/h in the case of the RedBull X1 from GranTurismo 5 & 6).

These restrictions also include all those technological innovations that certain equipment implemented in their respective cars in a certain season (with success) but on the edge of the regulation, and that the following year of its implementation the FIA banned them by considering them "illegal" to the Take advantage of other cars. To name a list of several of the gadgets and news that have been banned (for example):

- Active Suspension (Williams 1992)
- Anti-lock brakes (ABS), traction control (TC), telemetry, fly-by-wire controls, pneumatic valve springs, power steering, semi-automatic transmission, a fully automatic transmission and also continuously variable transmission (Williams 1993)
- Mass Damper (Renault 2006)
- Hubcap at wheels (2007 - 2009)
- Slick Tires (banned at 1998 - reintroduced in 2009)
- "Double" diffuser (Brawn GP 2009)
- F-Duct (McLaren 2010)
- Blown diffuser (RedBull 2011)
- Blowers exhaust (RedBull 2012)
- "Double" DRS + F-Duct (Mercedes 2012)
- Flexible Wings&Aero (Redbull 2013)

As for the performance of the F1 cars, it would be necessary to go back until the seasons 2003, 2004 and 2005 of F1; period in which some of the most powerful v10 engines (like BMW, Honda, Mercedes and Ferrari) reached 21,000 rpm and around 1000 Hp. In the case of F1 extremes, in addition to having all that power, you would have to determine what type of engines would use: Atmospheric or turbo, and how many valves (v6, v8, v10 or v12) taking into account that the v10 and v12 engines are the most noisy and attractive for the F1 fans.

Finally, to those 1000 HP would have to add the extra power that would provide the hybrid recovery systems (ERS or KERS), being able to reach more than 1500 HP in case of employing 10 megajoule (as the modern LMP1-H).

With all that data, you would get a real rocket transformed into a powerful racing car, the fastest in history. The only negative point is that due to its extreme speed you would have to use only large and fast tracks according to these cars (like Monza, LeMans, Spa, Daytona, Indianápolis, Norschleife), since it would be impossible to use them in small circuits (like Monaco, Macao, Hungaroring, Marina Bay, Brands Hatch).


One question, why not a fan car?

dault3883
11-06-2017, 04:09
In theory, it is assumed that any of those futuristic or advanced versions of F1 are representations of what should be the moderns F1 of this 2017 without all those STUPID restrictions of technology, research+development, costs, speed and power imposed by the FIA under the excuses to reduce the Costs and expenses of the equipment, and for the safety of the drivers because these xtreme F1 cars can exceed more of 400 km/h at the straights (500 - 600 Km/h in the case of the RedBull X1 from GranTurismo 5 & 6).

These restrictions also include all those technological innovations that certain equipment implemented in their respective cars in a certain season (with success) but on the edge of the regulation, and that the following year of its implementation the FIA banned them by considering them "illegal" to the Take advantage of other cars. To name a list of several of the gadgets and news that have been banned (for example):

- Active Suspension (Williams 1992)
- Anti-lock brakes (ABS), traction control (TC), telemetry, fly-by-wire controls, pneumatic valve springs, power steering, semi-automatic transmission, a fully automatic transmission and also continuously variable transmission (Williams 1993)
- Mass Damper (Renault 2006)
- Hubcap at wheels (2007 - 2009)
- Slick Tires (banned at 1998 - reintroduced in 2009)
- "Double" diffuser (Brawn GP 2009)
- F-Duct (McLaren 2010)
- Blown diffuser (RedBull 2011)
- Blowers exhaust (RedBull 2012)
- "Double" DRS + F-Duct (Mercedes 2012)
- Flexible Wings&Aero (Redbull 2013)

As for the performance of the F1 cars, it would be necessary to go back until the seasons 2003, 2004 and 2005 of F1; period in which some of the most powerful v10 engines (like BMW, Honda, Mercedes and Ferrari) reached 21,000 rpm and around 1000 Hp. In the case of F1 extremes, in addition to having all that power, you would have to determine what type of engines would use: Atmospheric or turbo, and how many valves (v6, v8, v10 or v12) taking into account that the v10 and v12 engines are the most noisy and attractive for the F1 fans.

Finally, to those 1000 HP would have to add the extra power that would provide the hybrid recovery systems (ERS or KERS), being able to reach more than 1500 HP in case of employing 10 megajoule (as the modern LMP1-H).

With all that data, you would get a real rocket transformed into a powerful racing car, the fastest in history. The only negative point is that due to its extreme speed you would have to use only large and fast tracks according to these cars (like Monza, LeMans, Spa, Daytona, Indianápolis, Norschleife), since it would be impossible to use them in small circuits (like Monaco, Macao, Hungaroring, Marina Bay, Brands Hatch).

unless you De-tune the motor for the shorter circuits

Rambo_Commando
11-06-2017, 04:09
What does the FIA/F1 have anything to do with SMS's Formula X?

Exactly what Tank621 said. I'm pretty sure SMS didn't include a Formula X just because someone thought it would be cool. It seems "inspired" by future F1 talks yet it looks more like a aero screen on a Dallara indycar chassis. I wish SMS went with one of the closed cockpit options instead of the aero screen but at least they didn't go with the Halo option, thank god.

hkraft300
11-06-2017, 04:12
:hopelessness:


In theory, it is assumed that any of those futuristic or advanced versions of F1 are representations of what should be the moderns F1 of this 2017 without all those STUPID restrictions of technology, research+development, costs, speed and power imposed by the FIA under the excuses to reduce the Costs and expenses of the equipment, and for the safety of the drivers because these xtreme F1 cars can exceed more of 400 km/h at the straights (500 - 600 Km/h in the case of the RedBull X1 from GranTurismo 5 & 6).

No. SMS can do what they like with their fantasy formula cars. They can be as slow as the formula Ford inspired Rookie, or as fast as the F1-inspired Formula A. It doesn't have to be related in any way to F1 2017.

As for real life...

Formula cars travelling at 4-5-600 km/h would pose a serious risk to driver and spectator safety as tracks and safety technology are not designed for collision or impact or flying debris of such high speeds.

If circuits and cars had to be upgrade to safety required of those speeds, every circuit and every F1 team would go bankrupt.



These restrictions also include all those technological innovations that certain equipment implemented in their respective cars in a certain season (with success) but on the edge of the regulation, and that the following year of its implementation the FIA banned them by considering them "illegal" to the Take advantage of other cars.

There are many more. F-duct is now the S-duct, slicks are back, diffusers are bigger, ALL wings flex under aerodynamic load, and everything flexes under load.

Prior to 2017 regulations there has always been a drive/direction of regulations to slow the cars for safety and cost consideration. Because sport is a business and a marketing exercise part of business.
Therefore there is a cost benefit analysis in every decision. If it costs too much, it won't happen. Very simple.
If the tech, development, regulation, competing in sport costs too much, it fails. Like Group C did in the early 90's, GT1 in late 90's.


As for the performance of the F1 cars, it would be necessary to go back until the seasons 2003, 2004 and 2005 of F1

Not necessary by any means. 2016/17 PU reach the power of the V10 cars WITH 100kg/hr fuel flow restrictions. 2017 cars are as fast, if not faster at most tracks, than the V10 era. So why go back to slower cars?


With all that data, you would get a real rocket transformed into a powerful racing car, the fastest in history. The only negative point is that due to its extreme speed you would have to use only large and fast tracks

A fantasy car too powerful too fast too expensive for anyone to build and race, forget about competing.

Don't worry, Gran Turismo Sport should arrive this year.
Complete with all the fast fantasy Vision GT cars you like.

snipeme77
11-06-2017, 05:15
:hopelessness:



No. SMS can do what they like with their fantasy formula cars. They can be as slow as the formula Ford inspired Rookie, or as fast as the F1-inspired Formula A. It doesn't have to be related in any way to F1 2017.

As for real life...

Formula cars travelling at 4-5-600 km/h would pose a serious risk to driver and spectator safety as tracks and safety technology are not designed for collision or impact or flying debris of such high speeds.

If circuits and cars had to be upgrade to safety required of those speeds, every circuit and every F1 team would go bankrupt.



There are many more. F-duct is now the S-duct, slicks are back, diffusers are bigger, ALL wings flex under aerodynamic load, and everything flexes under load.

Prior to 2017 regulations there has always been a drive/direction of regulations to slow the cars for safety and cost consideration. Because sport is a business and a marketing exercise part of business.
Therefore there is a cost benefit analysis in every decision. If it costs too much, it won't happen. Very simple.
If the tech, development, regulation, competing in sport costs too much, it fails. Like Group C did in the early 90's, GT1 in late 90's.



Not necessary by any means. 2016/17 PU reach the power of the V10 cars WITH 100kg/hr fuel flow restrictions. 2017 cars are as fast, if not faster at most tracks, than the V10 era. So why go back to slower cars?



A fantasy car too powerful too fast too expensive for anyone to build and race, forget about competing.

Don't worry, Gran Turismo Sport should arrive this year.
Complete with all the fast fantasy Vision GT cars you like.

The VGT cars have been detuned to run with LMP1 cars. Little bit sad, the 400MPH dodge is pretty netto.

Azure Flare
11-06-2017, 05:27
It would be kinda hard for the Formula X to be based on the 2018 Indycar if development for it began in July of last year, and we only saw a render of the Indycar not that long ago.

F1_Racer68
11-06-2017, 05:50
It would be kinda hard for the Formula X to be based on the 2018 Indycar if development for it began in July of last year, and we only saw a render of the Indycar not that long ago.

Why? Public release of info and controlled NDA release of info are 2 very different things. Obviously SMS had access to info about the new McLaren long before the public had any idea it was coming. Why would that not be possible for the 2018 IndyCar?

Not arguing that it IS based on that, just saying that you are making a pretty big assumption.

EDIT: Just because we only saw the renders recently doesn't mean that development of that car only started recently. COnsidering that the car needs to be built and ready (with 30+ chassis) for March 2018, I guarantee that development started a lot more than a few months ago.

Azure Flare
11-06-2017, 06:24
Why? Public release of info and controlled NDA release of info are 2 very different things. Obviously SMS had access to info about the new McLaren long before the public had any idea it was coming. Why would that not be possible for the 2018 IndyCar?

The 2018 Indycar and Formula X are not similar or related in any way. I keep seeing people saying that.

Alan Dallas
11-06-2017, 06:58
The 2018 Indycar and Formula X are not similar or related in any way. I keep seeing people saying that.

The 2018 IndyCar is still the IR-12 chassis. Only with a single Universal Aero Kit for all teams designed by who other than... Dallara. It was announced 4 days ago.
http://www.indycar.com/News/2017/06/06-06-Dallara-universal-kit-supplier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPBZnH-qerM

hkraft300
11-06-2017, 07:58
The VGT cars have been detuned to run with LMP1 cars. Little bit sad, the 400MPH dodge is pretty netto.

I have a hard enough time hanging on to the Formula A.
A 400mph car in pc2? I'd properly fail :rolleyes:

Invincible
11-06-2017, 08:35
Exactly what Tank621 said. I'm pretty sure SMS didn't include a Formula X just because someone thought it would be cool. It seems "inspired" by future F1 talks yet it looks more like a aero screen on a Dallara indycar chassis. I wish SMS went with one of the closed cockpit options instead of the aero screen but at least they didn't go with the Halo option, thank god.

We discussed it at WMD and voted on the design. We just thought about what would a 2018 F1 car look like if the rules weren't so strict. And the design was completed in 2016, so it doesn't hold any resemblance to the 2018 IndyCar.
Closed cockpit was also an option but Wmd voted in favour of the windscreen.
Really WMD strongly influenced the design and at that point we knew NOTHING about the 2018 IndyCar.

hkraft300
11-06-2017, 10:39
So a wmd influenced 2018 "F1" car ends up looking like the 2018 Indy car?

Reckon you've got 1 too many 'Muricans on team yellow :rolleyes:

dault3883
11-06-2017, 14:30
The 2018 IndyCar is still the IR-12 chassis. Only with a single Universal Aero Kit for all teams designed by who other than... Dallara. It was announced 4 days ago.
http://www.indycar.com/News/2017/06/06-06-Dallara-universal-kit-supplier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPBZnH-qerM

why does Dallara have such a Monopoly on indy car?

Tank621
11-06-2017, 14:44
why does Dallara have such a Monopoly on indy car?

Indycar have been using only the Dallara chassis for years, the only part that changes is the engine (no manufacturer aero kits in 2018) this keeps costs way down for the teams and creates closer racing so it's a win win situation for everyone. Smaller teams are particularly benefitted as they can actually be genuinely competitive unlike in F1.

As to why it's Dallara, they were the lucky ones to get the contract

dault3883
11-06-2017, 14:59
Indycar have been using only the Dallara chassis for years, the only part that changes is the engine (no manufacturer aero kits in 2018) this keeps costs way down for the teams and creates closer racing so it's a win win situation for everyone. Smaller teams are particularly benefitted as they can actually be genuinely competitive unlike in F1.

As to why it's Dallara, they were the lucky ones to get the contract

yes but why was Dallara choosen i remember at one point you had Dallara and G-Force making chassis and Panoz made chassis for champ car so why does Dallara get the node?

Tank621
11-06-2017, 15:07
yes but why was Dallara choosen i remember at one point you had Dallara and G-Force making chassis and Panoz made chassis for champ car so why does Dallara get the node?

They only wanted one chassis manufacturer, I don't know if any other designs were submitted but if there were Dallara's was the one they thought was best and they have been used exclusively since 2012

hkraft300
11-06-2017, 15:07
so why does Dallara get the node?

A chassis supply tender is put out by the series before the end of the current contract.
Each supplier presents their chassis and component supply plan, shows the cost is reasonable and their factory can support the supply of chassis and parts to the series. Whoever gets the contract, wins.
Dallara won.

Mahjik
11-06-2017, 15:07
Exactly what Tank621 said. I'm pretty sure SMS didn't include a Formula X just because someone thought it would be cool. It seems "inspired" by future F1 talks yet it looks more like a aero screen on a Dallara indycar chassis. I wish SMS went with one of the closed cockpit options instead of the aero screen but at least they didn't go with the Halo option, thank god.

SMS's idea of a future F1 car has nothing to do with what FIA may or may not do with their future regulations. FWIW, they did have a closed cockpit version of this car (see below). The cool thing is they had designed this before the larger tires were decided for this year's F1 season.


We discussed it at WMD and voted on the design. We just thought about what would a 2018 F1 car look like if the rules weren't so strict. And the design was completed in 2016, so it doesn't hold any resemblance to the 2018 IndyCar.
Closed cockpit was also an option but Wmd voted in favour of the windscreen.
Really WMD strongly influenced the design and at that point we knew NOTHING about the 2018 IndyCar.

Just to clarify, this is SMS's vision with some suggestions from WMD. They created versions with different variations on the wings (front and rear), canopy, and a few other variances. The WMD community weighed in on their thoughts on the different parts. I just bring this up for the non-WMD community as this was not the same process as the LMP cars from PC1.

dault3883
11-06-2017, 15:26
They only wanted one chassis manufacturer, I don't know if any other designs were submitted but if there were Dallara's was the one they thought was best and they have been used exclusively since 2012

there were TONS of designs submitted before 2012 to decide on the one a few looked better than the Dallara did

Here is a link to an article on all of them. i always liked the Swift Engineering design238108



http://jalopnik.com/5804718/the-future-tech-indy-cars-that-will-never-be/

breyzipp
11-06-2017, 15:36
Can someone send me a PM when the entire Indycar / formula one debate is finished? :)

dault3883
11-06-2017, 15:41
Can someone send me a PM when the entire Indycar / formula one debate is finished? :)

im done. honestly the indycar debate should be moved to the alonso and indycar general discussion thread probably i thought about that just after i did the previous post

KANETAKER
11-06-2017, 21:28
I just saw the FM7 presentation at the E3 conference. I worry that FM7 could have some exclusivity clause on some of the Porsche models that were not announced for PCARS2 yet, as in the case of the 911 GTE and 919 Hybrid... but although the 919 Hybrid is also available for the AC game. While the Gran Turismo saga continues to count on cars like the Mazda 787B and the Peugeot 908. I have no idea if the exclusivity is applied by brand or by model.

Hopefully within a week, on the occasion of the 24 Hours of LeMans the SMS guys will surprise us with some good news (as happened weeks ago with the Indy500 race). Otherwise, we will have to wait until September 22 or have hopes of seeing those cars in some future DLC (for 2018 ?).

rosko
11-06-2017, 22:03
In theory, it is assumed that any of those futuristic or advanced versions of F1 are representations of what should be the moderns F1 of this 2017 without all those STUPID restrictions of technology, research+development, costs, speed and power imposed by the FIA under the excuses to reduce the Costs and expenses of the equipment, and for the safety of the drivers because these xtreme F1 cars can exceed more of 400 km/h at the straights (500 - 600 Km/h in the case of the RedBull X1 from GranTurismo 5 & 6).

These restrictions also include all those technological innovations that certain equipment implemented in their respective cars in a certain season (with success) but on the edge of the regulation, and that the following year of its implementation the FIA banned them by considering them "illegal" to the Take advantage of other cars. To name a list of several of the gadgets and news that have been banned (for example):

- Active Suspension (Williams 1992)
- Anti-lock brakes (ABS), traction control (TC), telemetry, fly-by-wire controls, pneumatic valve springs, power steering, semi-automatic transmission, a fully automatic transmission and also continuously variable transmission (Williams 1993)
- Mass Damper (Renault 2006)
- Hubcap at wheels (2007 - 2009)
- Slick Tires (banned at 1998 - reintroduced in 2009)
- "Double" diffuser (Brawn GP 2009)
- F-Duct (McLaren 2010)
- Blown diffuser (RedBull 2011)
- Blowers exhaust (RedBull 2012)
- "Double" DRS + F-Duct (Mercedes 2012)
- Flexible Wings&Aero (Redbull 2013)

As for the performance of the F1 cars, it would be necessary to go back until the seasons 2003, 2004 and 2005 of F1; period in which some of the most powerful v10 engines (like BMW, Honda, Mercedes and Ferrari) reached 21,000 rpm and around 1000 Hp. In the case of F1 extremes, in addition to having all that power, you would have to determine what type of engines would use: Atmospheric or turbo, and how many valves (v6, v8, v10 or v12) taking into account that the v10 and v12 engines are the most noisy and attractive for the F1 fans.

Finally, to those 1000 HP would have to add the extra power that would provide the hybrid recovery systems (ERS or KERS), being able to reach more than 1500 HP in case of employing 10 megajoule (as the modern LMP1-H).

With all that data, you would get a real rocket transformed into a powerful racing car, the fastest in history. The only negative point is that due to its extreme speed you would have to use only large and fast tracks according to these cars (like Monza, LeMans, Spa, Daytona, Indianápolis, Norschleife), since it would be impossible to use them in small circuits (like Monaco, Macao, Hungaroring, Marina Bay, Brands Hatch).

Power steering is not banned as far as i'm aware only electronic power steering.

https://www.formula1.com/en/championship/inside-f1/rules-regs/Suspension_and_steering_systems.html

snipeme77
12-06-2017, 01:17
I just saw the FM7 presentation at the E3 conference. I worry that FM7 could have some exclusivity clause on some of the Porsche models that were not announced for PCARS2 yet, as in the case of the 911 GTE and 919 Hybrid... but although the 919 Hybrid is also available for the AC game. While the Gran Turismo saga continues to count on cars like the Mazda 787B and the Peugeot 908. I have no idea if the exclusivity is applied by brand or by model.

Hopefully within a week, on the occasion of the 24 Hours of LeMans the SMS guys will surprise us with some good news (as happened weeks ago with the Indy500 race). Otherwise, we will have to wait until September 22 or have hopes of seeing those cars in some future DLC (for 2018 ?).

I wondered about this too. Here's my question though, why would Porsche go from one Exclusivity deal to another? Surely they are racking in cash from all the video games wanting their cars in them?

I think this is just for new models, like that 911 GT2, which looks pretty neat, but we'll see. Either way, I'm happy with the Porsche content thus far. Anything else is Icing on the cake really.

dault3883
12-06-2017, 01:27
I wondered about this too. Here's my question though, why would Porsche go from one Exclusivity deal to another? Surely they are racking in cash from all the video games wanting their cars in them?

I think this is just for new models, like that 911 GT2, which looks pretty neat, but we'll see. Either way, I'm happy with the Porsche content thus far. Anything else is Icing on the cake really.

by giving out exclussive rights i would think they could charge more for the licensing

snipeme77
12-06-2017, 01:29
by giving out exclussive rights i would think they could charge more for the licensing

Then they couldn't give out licensing at all.

dault3883
12-06-2017, 01:48
Then they couldn't give out licensing at all.

What i meant was by making the licensing Exclusive to one company like they did with EA or if they did it to SMS. They could charge that company more for the licensing then they would if they did it to several game companies. This is because of the fact that the company is getting Exclusivity. Which would be a bonus to the game company because then if any one wants to play that car on a video game they have to get yours.

Zpectre87
12-06-2017, 03:12
This is not exclusive deal. This is partnership. Which means Forza gets some stuff others don't, but all will get Porsche.

It's impossible to compete with Microsoft and Sony money, so the best SMS can hope for is to make a better product. There are already many great cars in pCARS 2, but for the premier classes the absence of the Porsche racecars is definitely not a good thing.

dault3883
12-06-2017, 03:18
There are already many great cars in pCARS 2, but for the premier classes the absence of the Porsche racecars is definitely not a good thing.

agreed its like the WEC LMP1 class this year without Audi after so many years of Audi being in first lm900 then lmp1. It feels like something is missing

1185323118
12-06-2017, 03:29
Some more discovery :cool:
238111238112238113
Those fictional LMPs looks like LMP2 versions of them instead of their "big brothers", but I think both RWD and Marek LMP1 will also be in game too

238114
Very sneaky F50 GT1s

238115
We can find bugs in Pcars2 through the trailer already :p

dault3883
12-06-2017, 03:48
We can find bugs in Pcars2 through the trailer already :p

what bugs are those

1185323118
12-06-2017, 04:24
what bugs are those

That silver camaro's wheel getting through car's body

dault3883
12-06-2017, 04:26
That silver camaro's wheel getting through car's body

most of these video screen shots are from early development i believe

KANETAKER
12-06-2017, 06:04
If the Marek RP 339h and RWD P30 LMP1 was confirmed, then it is obvious that their LMP2 versions (Marek RP 219 and RWD P20) should also be confirmed, although I am surprised that they have not yet been included in the list of confirmed cars. Although some still hope to be able to see in the game the Oreca 05 (successor of Oreca 03) the rival car of the Ligier JS P2. This is because apparently it is very unlikely that the cars of the current 2017 season (Oreca 07 and Ligier JS P217) will be available for launch unless they are reserved for a future DLC.

hkraft300
12-06-2017, 06:40
Some more discovery :cool:

238114
Very sneaky F50 GT1s



I am experiencing feelings inappropriate for a family-friendly forum.

How did SMS pass the pegi3 rating with THAT!

EHM
12-06-2017, 13:33
There is a certain road legal hypercar not from Porsche that I think you missed from the trailer, hidden in the background. (I'm pretty sure it's what I think it is)

Hint: Between 1:00 and 1:10.

VelvetTorpedo
12-06-2017, 14:31
maybe this?
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238117
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EDIT: found a better IRL LaFerrari pic :)

dault3883
12-06-2017, 14:47
maybe this?
238119
238117
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NOW THAT LAST ONE which i see in the screen shot I so want to drive

Tank621
12-06-2017, 15:43
That is some proper sneaky hiding, good spot guys

dault3883
12-06-2017, 15:57
That is some proper sneaky hiding, good spot guys

Credit goes to Velvet

VelvetTorpedo
12-06-2017, 16:11
EHM found it, I just played the scavenger hunt they suggested haha

hkraft300
12-06-2017, 16:41
There is a certain road legal hypercar not from Porsche that I think you missed from the trailer, hidden in the background. (I'm pretty sure it's what I think it is)

Hint: Between 1:00 and 1:10.

Well done.
SMS marketing plan getting screwed.
Like they'd get away with sloppy editing to keep cars hidden!
The Ferrari TheFerrari confirmed :)

honespc
12-06-2017, 18:06
Well done.
The Ferrari TheFerrari confirmed :)LaFerrari?

dault3883
12-06-2017, 19:05
LaFerrari?

correct

GenBrien
12-06-2017, 19:42
still no sign of Lambo though....

(so far)

VelvetTorpedo
12-06-2017, 19:45
fingers crossed for a countach :)

GenBrien
12-06-2017, 19:48
fingers crossed for a countach :)
I think you meant Diablo ;)

dault3883
12-06-2017, 19:48
fingers crossed for a countach :)

id love an Aventador

Tank621
12-06-2017, 20:39
And I want a unicorn

rosko
12-06-2017, 20:59
I hope we see some dlc to add to the Porsche, Ferrari & Labo's.

RacingAtHome
12-06-2017, 21:01
And I want a unicorn

Here you go.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0e/3d/f6/0e3df60cabeec611be2872b82db57458.jpg

dault3883
12-06-2017, 21:17
And I want a unicorn


Here you go.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0e/3d/f6/0e3df60cabeec611be2872b82db57458.jpg

and tank who said dreams dont come true LOL

Konan
12-06-2017, 21:37
Not saying anything but....does Remco's law ring a bell? :p

breyzipp
12-06-2017, 21:47
still no sign of Lambo though....

(so far)

Not sure what SMS will have in store for us but if you can ask for one Lambo to be added in the game then my favorite choice would be this one:

http://bestcarmag.com/sites/default/files/4450011lamborghini-miura_3718.jpg

Ooh yeah, we need more classic road cars. :)

Mahjik
12-06-2017, 22:16
Back on subject please...

Roger Prynne
12-06-2017, 22:35
Has this been posted yet?
I'm too tired to look at the moment.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectcarsgame/sets/72157676521274764

MillsLayne
12-06-2017, 22:53
Has this been posted yet?
I'm too tired to look at the moment.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectcarsgame/sets/72157676521274764

Those "Martini" liveries, though... :cool:

dault3883
12-06-2017, 22:53
Has this been posted yet?
I'm too tired to look at the moment.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectcarsgame/sets/72157676521274764

i dont think it has but i could be wrong

RacingAtHome
12-06-2017, 23:35
Ugh. People thinking that Mercedes is an NGTC when it's obviously a fantasy Super 2000...

KANETAKER
13-06-2017, 02:14
I just saw that they finally completed the list of the six GT1 cars that competed in the 24H of LeMans 1998, which I am very happy about.
But on the other hand, it is curious that no one has remembered the new GT1 class that was introduced in 2005 and disappeared after 2010.

Taking into account the performance of those GT1s could quietly compete with the current GTE at least in LeMans. Taking as reference the cars GT1 of its last season (2010), could be obtained a more varied and interesting grill with the GTE and GT1:

- Aston Martin DBR9
- Ford GT Match
- Chevrolet Corvette C6.R
- Saleen SR-7
- Lamborghini Murciélago LP670 R-SV

Azure Flare
13-06-2017, 02:20
- Aston Martin DBR9
- Ford GT Match
- Chevrolet Corvette C6.R
- Saleen SR-7
- Lamborghini Murciélago LP670 R-SV

Proper GT1 died when it became the LMGTP class. You just listed a bunch of GT2 cars.

dault3883
13-06-2017, 02:44
Proper GT1 died when it became the LMGTP class. You just listed a bunch of GT2 cars.

they did race in a class titled GT1 but really it was more GT1.2

at the end all of the other cars but corvette had moved to GT2 i believe leaving corvette the only ones in GT1 until GTLM was established

F1_Racer68
13-06-2017, 03:02
they did race in a class titled GT1 but really it was more GT1.2

at the end all of the other cars but corvette had moved to GT2 i believe leaving corvette the only ones in GT1 until GTLM was established

You mean GTE. GTLM is the IMSA designations, which although it closely aligns to GTE, it is in fact a separate rule set, which is why the RLL BMWs are able to compete there but not in ACO/WEC events (yet).

dault3883
13-06-2017, 03:12
You mean GTE. GTLM is the IMSA designations, which although it closely aligns to GTE, it is in fact a separate rule set, which is why the RLL BMWs are able to compete there but not in ACO/WEC events (yet).

no i meant GTLM i live in america im refering to the Imsa American Le Mans Series era of GT1 and GT2 that had most of that list of cars

GT1
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GT2
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and Corvette racing runs in GTLM in america and GTE at Le Mans which is ACO/WEC

snipeme77
13-06-2017, 03:40
So we have the GT1 f50 and the laferrari is confirmed

EHM
13-06-2017, 06:04
Which cockpit/interior is that with the green digital instruments, the one chasing the 911 GT1 in the rain around 1:12?

breyzipp
13-06-2017, 06:51
I added the LaFerrari. Where was that evidence for the F50 GT?

Tank621
13-06-2017, 07:46
238131238132

Right side. I say it looks pretty similar
And the bottom picture has got a bit of tape on the front so looks a little different2

breyzipp
13-06-2017, 08:26
Ok great will add it tonight. Although it technically never raced in GT1 it was designed for it and I'm sure that's where it will be in game :)

dault3883
13-06-2017, 18:21
238131238132

Right side. I say it looks pretty similar
And the bottom picture has got a bit of tape on the front so looks a little different2

that car is sexy

honespc
13-06-2017, 19:32
http://i68.tinypic.com/2z724d5.png

Glad to finally know the F40 is making it for pc2!. However this is not the sweet version, I mean the road one.

Do you guys think we will be lucky enough to put our hands on the road version?. I really really hope so.

Konan
13-06-2017, 19:36
Ask Remco...it's his law anyway...lol

Tank621
13-06-2017, 19:49
Ask Remco...it's his law anyway...lol

Ooh ooh, If we're doing a wishlist can I please have another unicorn?

Anyway, I imagine due to higher demand for the F40 road car liscensing is probably a bit higher, that and the game is focussed primarily on race cars so it makes logical sense to choose the F40 LM. Then again we haven't really had a proper Ferrari announcement, who knows we may be pleasantly suprised.

Fight-Test
13-06-2017, 20:03
I just saw that they finally completed the list of the six GT1 cars that competed in the 24H of LeMans 1998, which I am very happy about.
But on the other hand, it is curious that no one has remembered the new GT1 class that was introduced in 2005 and disappeared after 2010.

Taking into account the performance of those GT1s could quietly compete with the current GTE at least in LeMans. Taking as reference the cars GT1 of its last season (2010), could be obtained a more varied and interesting grill with the GTE and GT1:

- Aston Martin DBR9
- Ford GT Match
- Chevrolet Corvette C6.R
- Saleen SR-7
- Lamborghini Murciélago LP670 R-SV

Kane, not sure if that is 100% correct but I'm only going off second hand knowledge. I was listening to Radio Lemans and they had (im drawing a blank but it was last week) and he was saying that GT3 has already surpassed the GT1's in speed and times. He was talking about Spa saying that they are a few seconds faster in GT3 than the GT1's ever where but he also said they normally dial back more for races than the GT1's did. He also mentioned its track specific but the current GT3 surpassed the GT1 as far a speed and thrill. So the GTE's should be a good bit quicker which I know is mostly cornering due to much better aero. He also said the GT3's they are faster than the GTE's this year in straight line at Leman this year easily. Like I said second hand knowledge but from a lemans driver who is racing this year. Maybe someone who listened to the show can chime in.

EDIT: I think my source was Oliver Jarvis on the Lemans Pre Race Show yesterday on the Autosport Podcast. Harry Ticknel was on also. Was pretty good insight.

rosko
13-06-2017, 20:11
I just saw that they finally completed the list of the six GT1 cars that competed in the 24H of LeMans 1998, which I am very happy about.
But on the other hand, it is curious that no one has remembered the new GT1 class that was introduced in 2005 and disappeared after 2010.

Taking into account the performance of those GT1s could quietly compete with the current GTE at least in LeMans. Taking as reference the cars GT1 of its last season (2010), could be obtained a more varied and interesting grill with the GTE and GT1:

- Aston Martin DBR9
- Ford GT Match
- Chevrolet Corvette C6.R
- Saleen SR-7
- Lamborghini Murciélago LP670 R-SV

Not forgotten some of the cars in my wishlist on gt planet Maserati MC12 GT1 2005, Aston Martin DBR9 2005, Corvette Cr.6 2005, Ferrari 550 GTS 2005, Lamborghini Murciélago R-GT 2007.

GT1 or GT1.5 they are still very cools cars, the mc12 in AC is brilliant.

snipeme77
13-06-2017, 20:53
Not forgotten some of the cars in my wishlist on gt planet Maserati MC12 GT1 2005, Aston Martin DBR9 2005, Corvette Cr.6 2005, Ferrari 550 GTS 2005, Lamborghini Murciélago R-GT 2007.

GT1 or GT1.5 they are still very cools cars, the mc12 in AC is brilliant.
Yeah, I like the MC12 too. It's just such a cool looking car

Azure Flare
14-06-2017, 01:54
Ooh ooh, If we're doing a wishlist can I please have another unicorn?

https://derpicdn.net/img/2016/8/24/1232737/large.png

You can have this one.

RacingAtHome
14-06-2017, 01:55
https://derpicdn.net/img/2016/8/24/1232737/large.png

You can have this one.

NO! He got his unicorn. Wait. Isn't that a pony?

hkraft300
14-06-2017, 01:57
...he was saying that GT3 has already surpassed the GT1's in speed and times. .

Maybe GT3 is as fast as post-2000 GT1. Which sort of evolved into GT2 then GTE.

KANETAKER
14-06-2017, 02:06
Maybe GT3 is as fast as post-2000 GT1. Which sort of evolved into GT2 then GTE.

But in this case, how the GT3 cars (as GTD) can run together with the GTE cars (as GTLM) at the 24h of Daytona&IMSA series? Some BoP for GTD? Or really the GTE are faster than GT3 cars? (I hope).

Because at Pcars1 the Corvette and Aston Martin GTE are slower than GT3 cars (some BoP from SMS for can put these two cars in the same class with GT3 at Pcars1).

hkraft300
14-06-2017, 02:43
GT3 cars were close to 2016 GTE speed. Still race in different classes.
2017 GTE has different regulations and is now faster than GT3.

KANETAKER
14-06-2017, 04:04
GT3 cars were close to 2016 GTE speed. Still race in different classes.
2017 GTE has different regulations and is now faster than GT3.

But at IMSA 2016 season the GTE (GTLM) running with GT3 (GTD) at the same track and GTE are faster than GTD... same thing that IMSA 2017 season.

Maybe the GT3 cars have an different regulation and performance according to each tournament (IMSA, ADAC, Blancpain series, etc.) and a BoP according to race (Daytona, Nordschleife, Bathrust, Dubai, Road to LeMans, etc.) ???

hkraft300
14-06-2017, 04:23
GT3 have always been slightly slower than GTE in lap times. GTE gets better tyres. In 2015 they were very close.
Sorry 2016 GTE are much faster because new regulations.
Yes, imsa and wec have different BoP.

EHM
14-06-2017, 05:35
There was another car revealed today but via what is probably considered a leak, should it wait until it's official?

Tank621
14-06-2017, 06:39
There was another car revealed today but via what is probably considered a leak, should it wait until it's official?

Yeah we only add official stuff to the list

Cheesenium
14-06-2017, 07:01
There was another car revealed today but via what is probably considered a leak, should it wait until it's official?

What car was it?

honespc
14-06-2017, 07:55
Anyway, I imagine due to higher demand for the F40 road car liscensing is probably a bit higher, that and the game is focussed primarily on race cars so it makes logical sense to choose the F40 LM. Then again we haven't really had a proper Ferrari announcement, who knows we may be pleasantly suprised.F40 LM stands for Lemans? (I had never seen that car)

If so I guess this car has nothing to do with the road version. Adjustable wings; slick tyres; stage 3 F40 at the very least or higher; etc

Let's hope for the proper road version, specially in the case of the F40. A car that will always be special for many here. There should be a lot of skill involved in driving this jewel, and I trust devs not to let this opportunity pass on them, as this car should be the star of the road car category in pc2, or at least one of them

hkraft300
14-06-2017, 08:23
There should be a lot of skill involved in driving this jewel,

Don't get your hopes up in that respect.
Seeing the trend of cars getting easier to drive on the limit over the decades, I can't see the F40 being more difficult than, say, a McLaren F1 or the xj220s. Cars of a similar era.
The laggy high power turbo cars of the 80's and 90's did need caution with the boost.

proterra1
14-06-2017, 09:09
Yeah we only add official stuff to the list

But we like to know what it is anyway!

Tank621
14-06-2017, 11:01
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Is that the old Merc on the left from the 1st game?

Cheesenium
14-06-2017, 11:03
Yes, that's 300SEL from pcars 1.

proterra1
14-06-2017, 11:12
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Is that the old Merc on the left from the 1st game?

Where's that picture from? Didn't see that in the trailer.

Bealdor
14-06-2017, 11:18
Where's that picture from? Didn't see that in the trailer.

Twitter (https://twitter.com/projectcarsgame/status/874932970896994304)

Tank621
14-06-2017, 16:06
Some new cars from Ben Collins
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVUyZGkDId6/
To lazy to look properly atm but looks like we got some Lambos and Ferraris if I saw what I thiink did

VelvetTorpedo
14-06-2017, 16:24
looks like the Enzo and definitely some kind of lambo
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honespc
14-06-2017, 16:24
I can see an Enzo Ferrari over there

F1_Racer68
14-06-2017, 16:32
looks like the Enzo and definitely some kind of lambo
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Looks like an Aventador to me....

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8W4iZ382VqA/maxresdefault.jpg

snipeme77
14-06-2017, 17:02
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Facebook and Twitter finds

breyzipp
14-06-2017, 17:57
Some new cars from Ben Collins
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVUyZGkDId6/
To lazy to look properly atm but looks like we got some Lambos and Ferraris if I saw what I thiink did

The Ferrari is either the Enzo or else the Enzo-based FXX. I also think its the Enzo, anyone who is 100% sure?
The Lambo is seriously hard to tell for me, either Huracan or Aventador and in case of the Aventador it might as well be the SV. Anyone knows for sure? I googled for Huracan front & Aventador front, studied that quickly, watched the video again and I can't tell. :)

Great find on the Red Pig by the way!!! For sure not my favorite car in PCARS 1 but ooh I love the story behind it so much I just wanna drive it from time to time. ;)

I added the Red Pig and Enzo to the list, waiting a bit on the Lambo.

breyzipp
14-06-2017, 18:06
The 918 Spyder for sure is the Weissach package, new screenshot :

https://twitter.com/projectcarsgame/status/875047540374241281

Roger Prynne
14-06-2017, 18:14
The Ferrari is either the Enzo or else the Enzo-based FXX. I also think its the Enzo, anyone who is 100% sure?
The Lambo is seriously hard to tell for me, either Huracan or Aventador and in case of the Aventador it might as well be the SV. Anyone knows for sure? I googled for Huracan front & Aventador front, studied that quickly, watched the video again and I can't tell. :)

Great find on the Red Pig by the way!!! For sure not my favorite car in PCARS 1 but ooh I love the story behind it so much I just wanna drive it from time to time. ;)

I added the Red Pig and Enzo to the list, waiting a bit on the Lambo.
I'd like to put you out of your misery, but it's great fun seeing your guesses :glee:

breyzipp
14-06-2017, 18:19
I'd like to put you out of your misery, but it's great fun seeing your guesses :glee:

Do I sense some negative treats developing there mister, ya know, the kind that take pleasure in other people's pain and agony? :-)

On the more serious note, it's actually quite fun to guess the cars.... at least when you end up with a satisfying feeling of having ruled out all options and being 100% sure you found the correct car, up there with the spec and construction year. :D

hkraft300
14-06-2017, 18:20
238145

Facebook and Twitter finds

Ferrari f333 sp confirmed!

I could swear that's a TS020 LMGTP too and a Bentley Speed 8 just ahead of it.

What an incredible car list. Bravo.




On the more serious note, it's actually quite fun to guess the cars.... at least when you end up with a satisfying feeling of having ruled out all options and being 100% sure you found the correct car, up there with the spec and construction year. :D

Bet you've learned a lot in the process. History, specs... Proper anorak now, hey?

proterra1
14-06-2017, 19:56
The Ferrari is either the Enzo or else the Enzo-based FXX. I also think its the Enzo, anyone who is 100% sure?
The Lambo is seriously hard to tell for me, either Huracan or Aventador and in case of the Aventador it might as well be the SV. Anyone knows for sure? I googled for Huracan front & Aventador front, studied that quickly, watched the video again and I can't tell. :)

Great find on the Red Pig by the way!!! For sure not my favorite car in PCARS 1 but ooh I love the story behind it so much I just wanna drive it from time to time. ;)

I added the Red Pig and Enzo to the list, waiting a bit on the Lambo.

Its definitely an Enzo and the Lambo is an Aventador S I think. I thought Huracan at first too, but when it's going through the chicane you can tell its an Aventador by the side pods.

wicken
14-06-2017, 21:11
Some new cars from Ben Collins
https://www.instagram.com/p/BVUyZGkDId6/
To lazy to look properly atm but looks like we got some Lambos and Ferraris if I saw what I thiink did

I see a Ferrari Enzo Ferrari and a Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4.

dault3883
14-06-2017, 21:39
I see a Ferrari Enzo Ferrari and a Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4.

Both Cars are awesome especially the Aventador

breyzipp
14-06-2017, 21:47
Ferrari f333 sp confirmed!

I could swear that's a TS020 LMGTP too and a Bentley Speed 8 just ahead of it.

What an incredible car list. Bravo.

Lol sjees, do I need to watch that blurry pic with 3D glasses or something to see all the cars you are seeing? :)

snipeme77
14-06-2017, 23:19
Lol sjees, do I need to watch that blurry pic with 3D glasses or something to see all the cars you are seeing? :)

He's right, all 3 cars are there

Zpectre87
14-06-2017, 23:23
It would be amazing to drive Schumacher's FXX, but I think it's the plain Enzo, because the FXX usually has a livery and the Enzo in the screenshot doesn't look like it has a two-tone paintjob.

I remember someone did the whole FXX program for GTR2, but that mod drives like ass unfortunately. :(

snipeme77
14-06-2017, 23:26
So that whole video has the lmp900 class. I saw a r8, Bentley, bmw, toyota (may be a GT1 but IDK) and the Ferrari sp-333 being driven and crashing in the picture

breyzipp
14-06-2017, 23:40
So that whole video has the lmp900 class. I saw a r8, Bentley, bmw, toyota (may be a GT1 but IDK) and the Ferrari sp-333 being driven and crashing in the picture

which video is that?

By the way I added LMP / LMGTP / LMP900 as a new prototype class for these cars

snipeme77
15-06-2017, 00:19
*****

Not my video, found on da Twitter

Anyway watch in slow motion. A BMW is leading this pack of cars, the R8 and the first sp333 connect causing the 333 to spin, the Bentley picks up a position, and the Toyota and player fall in behind.

Sorry was filmed on a potato

breyzipp
15-06-2017, 00:41
*****

Not my video, found on da Twitter

Anyway watch in slow motion. A BMW is leading this pack of cars, the R8 and the first sp333 connect causing the 333 to spin, the Bentley picks up a position, and the Toyota and player fall in behind.

Sorry was filmed on a potato

I think another BMW is in the rear view mirror as well towards the end, right? :)

Anyway since it's an unlisted YouTube video I won't link to the video from the topic post but I'll keep the cars mentioned on it anyway. LMP900 returning was almost a 100% certainty anyway since the R8 and Speed 8 were already in PCARS 1. And I assume leading up to Le Mans these cars together with GT1, LMP1/2/3 might find their way into some Le Mans reveal articles anyway.

I still need better glasses to be a pro at car spotting. I'm more the slow kind of guy that needs huge 4k up-close screen shots so I can see all the details on a car and then decide what it is. :P

hkraft300
15-06-2017, 02:14
.

I still need better glasses to be a pro at car spotting.

I'm terrible too.
Thought the f333 was a radical at first.

KANETAKER
15-06-2017, 02:18
*****

Not my video, found on da Twitter

Anyway watch in slow motion. A BMW is leading this pack of cars, the R8 and the first sp333 connect causing the 333 to spin, the Bentley picks up a position, and the Toyota and player fall in behind.

Sorry was filmed on a potato

What prototype car is driving the player with cockpit view?

I would know if the Circuit of LeMans in PCars2 finally have the last modifications until 2016 like as Monza (at the Parabolic curve before main straight); also included some missing distance advice signals (200m, 150m, 100m, 50m) at the point brake of straights (in Pcars1 these signals are missing).

snipeme77
15-06-2017, 03:28
What prototype car is driving the player with cockpit view?

I would know if the Circuit of LeMans in PCars2 finally have the last modifications until 2016 like as Monza (at the Parabolic curve before main straight); also included some missing distance advice signals (200m, 150m, 100m, 50m) at the point brake of straights (in Pcars1 these signals are missing).

Player is driving another 333

Tank621
15-06-2017, 08:56
I like to imagine Breyzipp in a job interview

Interviewer: So do you have any hobbies?
Breyzipp: Yeah, I make lists for fun
Interviewer: ......

breyzipp
15-06-2017, 10:07
I like to imagine Breyzipp in a job interview

Interviewer: So do you have any hobbies?
Breyzipp: Yeah, I make lists for fun
Interviewer: ......

Interviewer: So what else do you do?
Breyzipp: Race the cars on those lists in video games.
Interviewer: Ok that's all, I have no further questions.

hkraft300
15-06-2017, 10:28
I like to imagine Breyzipp in a job interview

Interviewer: So do you have any hobbies?
Breyzipp: Yeah, I make lists for fun
Interviewer: ......

Tank621: I find the cars on social media for breyzipp to put on the lists.

:p

honespc
15-06-2017, 12:03
I can't just imagine what other racing game could pose a threat to project cars 2 once or little before release. Only with the cars you all have spotted should make the game amazing enough to play already. This combined with the staggering number of tracks, the refined handling (let's hope spin recovery with slick tyres does not become as stupid as it is in GT Sport), and the weather stuff then..., hello competition?, anyone there?

The Enzo Ferrari; F40; Porches; Jaguars; 80's and 90's cars again + a lot new..., the war is already won before it even started

RacingAtHome
15-06-2017, 12:22
Interviewer: So what else do you do?
Breyzipp: Race the cars on those lists in video games.
Interviewer: Ok that's all, I have no further questions.

You're hired. Welcome to Buzzfeed.

Scuderia Paul
15-06-2017, 12:51
I think the car I have circled is the Opel Astra TCR 2016.


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Tank621
15-06-2017, 12:59
I think the car I have circled is the Opel Astra TCR 2017.


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The 2016 Opel Astra TCR was already confirmed so it's probably that

KANETAKER
15-06-2017, 13:57
Someone listen about the Ligier JS P3 ?? Is another LMP3 car that's running with the Ginettas G57 and GT3 together in a race called "Road to LeMans" the Thursday after Qualify Session of the 24H of LeMans. If can be possible to include these LMP3 car for have at least two real LMP3 cars in these class.

Tank621
15-06-2017, 14:12
Someone listen about the Ligier JS P3 ?? Is another LMP3 car that's running with the Ginettas G57 and GT3 together in a race called "Road to LeMans" the Thursday after Qualify Session of the 24H of LeMans. If can be possible to include these LMP3 car for have at least two real LMP3 cars in these class.

I suppose the Ligier P2 was spotted, so the P3 might not be completely off the table
I guess they might talk about P3s closer to the Le Mans race

breyzipp
15-06-2017, 14:23
Not sure how much closer we need to get, in less than 48h the race is on! :-)

IceShaft
15-06-2017, 16:23
But... what's that car behind the Merc in the front row? Isn't it a Porsche 911 GT3 RSR??? :confused:

hkraft300
15-06-2017, 16:51
2016 911 GT3 R. (http://www.projectcarsgame.com/newspc2/the-track-weaponized-porsche-911-gt3-r-comes-to-project-cars-2-along-with-its-road-going-brother-the-porsche-911-gt3-rs?lang=en)
No word on the GTE spec rsr yet.
Check the first post for the list of Porsche's confirmed so far.

honespc
15-06-2017, 17:55
Why does the road version of that Porche have a gt3 denomination as well?

Mahjik
15-06-2017, 18:16
Why does the road version of that Porche have a gt3 denomination as well?

That's Porsche's track focused car (not all out race car so it's not "GT3" as in the racing class):

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/911-gt3-models/

Mad Al
15-06-2017, 18:18
Why does the road version of that Porche have a gt3 denomination as well?

Because that's what it's called.....

cxMilk
15-06-2017, 18:27
I like to imagine Breyzipp in a job interview

Interviewer: So do you have any hobbies?
Breyzipp: Yeah, I make lists for fun
Interviewer: ......
Don't knock list making as a quality skill. You just never know when a job might require good working knowledge of lists.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pstvxJhdWi4

IceShaft
15-06-2017, 18:55
2016 911 GT3 R. (http://www.projectcarsgame.com/newspc2/the-track-weaponized-porsche-911-gt3-r-comes-to-project-cars-2-along-with-its-road-going-brother-the-porsche-911-gt3-rs?lang=en)
No word on the GTE spec rsr yet.
Check the first post for the list of Porsche's confirmed so far.

I know, I know. I checked the picture again and the bonnet is definitely from the 911 GT3 R :(
But the livery, it looks very similar to the one on the 911 GT3 RSR 2017.
We will see...

breyzipp
15-06-2017, 19:21
Someone can see this?:
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3:14 at LeMans, new record with the actual track (with chicanes), and one second behind the record with old track (without chicanes). Also, the TS050 reach 336 Km/h in these fast lap.

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I hope so SMS can get the 2017 Toyota TS050 at least for 2018 as an DLC. Same wish for LMP2 2017 spec, they make 3:25 at Lemans, 10 seconds faster than old LMP2.

Not just directed to you but I want to say this in general. Can we all please start NEW offtopic or chitchat posts in the new "general project CARS 2" discussion? Please keep this thread about confirmed cars for the game or the discussion about these cars. For me it's fine to just reply to existing posts or reply with a funny comment but the amount of off-topic posts is really getting out of hand. When I had to update the topic post after the E3 trailer I already had to dig through close to 10 pages finding it hard to actually see the related posts.

Tank621
15-06-2017, 19:29
Not just directed to you but I want to say this in general. Can we all please start NEW offtopic or chitchat posts in the new "general project CARS 2" discussion? Please keep this thread about confirmed cars for the game or the discussion about these cars. For me it's fine to just reply to existing posts or reply with a funny comment but the amount of off-topic posts is really getting out of hand. When I had to update the topic post after the E3 trailer I already had to dig through close to 10 pages finding it hard to actually see the related posts.

I know I certainly go off topic every once in a while but I will add to what you've just said by reminding people that this is NOT a request thread, I really mean just don't pop up saying 'I want X', it is a bit irritating to filter through
There are threads dedicated to requests so use them instead

Also can no-one look at the tracklist thread for a little while, we may have slightly off topic Haha

breyzipp
15-06-2017, 19:39
I know, I know. I checked the picture again and the bonnet is definitely from the 911 GT3 R :(
But the livery, it looks very similar to the one on the 911 GT3 RSR 2017.
We will see...


I saw someone mentioning the same comment on the GT Planet forums, he was also wondering why a 2017 RSR livery was in the game. I checked it out myself and it does indeed look very similar, but I don't know if they had a similar livery in 2016 as well. I didn't add the 2017 RSR to the list yet but I'm keeping it in mind. Could the 2017 GTE livery be wrapped around a 2016 GT3 Porsche? I would say hell no, especially how I learned on these forums how nitpicky Porsche is about their cars (the 918 Spyder had to be the Weissach package and more importantly, SMS had to add a 911 GT3 and an extra GT3 Endurance especially because of the liveries).
I also realize that most of the cars in the game will be 2016 spec or older. But having that said, there might actually slip some 2017 cars though, IMO it depends how closely Porsche and SMS were working together while the 2017 RSR was being in development. After all, the 720S is a 2017 car as well and it will also be in the game.

Also if you look at Project CARS 1, a game released in spring 2015, these are all the 2015 and 2016 cars that are in the game :

That is assorted on car construction/spec year and then date added to the game. And yes I keep track of this in a list :P, I have a whole Google docs spreadsheet with all cars from FM5, FM6, FH2, FH3, NFS, DR, PC1 and AC in it so it's easy to dig this up.

The rows below are as follows :

model year / brand / model type / DLC pack / DLC date


2016 Pagani Huayra BC Pagani Nurburgring combined track expansion 06/05/2016
2016 Cadillac ATS-V.R GT3 US race car pack 01/03/2016
2016 Chevrolet Corvette C7.R US race car pack 01/03/2016
2016 Ford Fusion Stockcar US race car pack 01/03/2016
2015 Pagani Zonda Revolucion Pagani Nurburgring combined track expansion 06/05/2016
2015 Mercedes-Benz AMG GT3 free car #10 15/04/2016
2015 Aston Martin Vantage GT12 US race car pack - free car #9 01/03/2016
2015 KTM X-Bow R Stanceworks track expansion 28/01/2016
2015 Mazda MX-5 Radbul Stanceworks track expansion 28/01/2016
2015 Radical RXC Turbo Renault Sport car pack- free car #7 22/12/2015
2015 Renault Formula Renault 3.5 Renault Sport car pack 22/12/2015
2015 Renault Megane R.S. 275 Trophy-R Renault Sport car pack 22/12/2015
2015 Renault R.S.01 Renault Sport car pack 22/12/2015
2015 Scion FR-S Rocket Bunny Edition Japanese car pack 29/10/2015
2015 Toyota GT-86 Rocket Bunny GT Edition Japanese car pack 29/10/2015
2015 Ford Mustang GT old vs new car pack 27/08/2015

As you can see the first 2015 car to be added to the game was 27 august 2015 in the Old vs New car pack (Mustang GT). Previous to that, all cars in-game were 2014 or older. But as I said, that rule is already broken for PCARS 2 and not only with the 720S : (I think this is a result of SMS working much closer to the manufacturers than with PC1 development)

2017 Nissan GT-R NISMO (R35)
2017 Ford GT
2017 McLaren 720S
2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R
2017 Acura NSX GT3
2017 Nissan GT-R Nismo GT3 (could be the 2016 spec as well)

So not counting on the 2017 SMS-R studio spec cars, we already have a handful of "2017" including the NSX racer. Granted the real life NSX GT3 was already revealed summer 2016 while the 911 RSR was revealed to the public late 2016. But is there a chance the 911 RSR will be in the base game? I would say yes. And if it won't make it in the base game I would say it's one of the most likely cars to appear in a later DLC pack since with Porsche out of the grips of EA and with the brand being such a big name in sportcar racing, I would bet that RSR will be in PC2 at some point. In this life or the next. Amen. :)

breyzipp
15-06-2017, 19:58
I know I certainly go off topic every once in a while but I will add to what you've just said by reminding people that this is NOT a request thread, I really mean just don't pop up saying 'I want X', it is a bit irritating to filter through
There are threads dedicated to requests so use them instead

Also can no-one look at the tracklist thread for a little while, we may have slightly off topic Haha

For sure was not directed to you, let me tell you that. :) A like I said before, I absolutely love the humor here and I have no problem at all with someone (who was on topic) getting quoted and then the next guy making something funny that is completely off topic and a new off-topic but funny chain is started (like how we got from someone mistakenly thinking about the Daytona eventually leading to Belgian burgers :P). But when something new off-topic is started (not continuing on a previous reply) then it should go to the other thread (or even the off-topic forum, there is some great stuff there as well, especially about real life motorsports and other racing games).

To summarize, this thread is mainly for :
1 - evidence that cars will be in game and they are not yet on the topic post
2 - improving on previous evidence (if a car was added from a vage screenshot like that Aventador thinking it's a certain model, better screenshots are videos are always welcome, in such case I always update the link to the evidence from the topic post too)

what is also fine for me :
3 - discussions about a car that might be in from weak evidence (like that 911 RSR as as very recent example)
4 - humor :)

I know it is really easy to get carried away seeing someone posting a car and then quoting that and turning it in a wishlist for another car (yours truly failed on that multiple times as well) but try to avoid it and post it in the car wishlist thread. I think you can even cross-quote from one thread to another. If you click "reply with quote" and then copy/paste that text into the other thread (and not reply here), I think your quote will still lead to this thread from the other one.

RacingAtHome
15-06-2017, 21:02
For sure was not directed to you, let me tell you that. :) A like I said before, I absolutely love the humor here and I have no problem at all with someone (who was on topic) getting quoted and then the next guy making something funny that is completely off topic and a new off-topic but funny chain is started (like how we got from someone mistakenly thinking about the Daytona eventually leading to Belgian burgers :P). But when something new off-topic is started (not continuing on a previous reply) then it should go to the other thread (or even the off-topic forum, there is some great stuff there as well, especially about real life motorsports and other racing games).

To summarize, this thread is mainly for :
1 - evidence that cars will be in game and they are not yet on the topic post
2 - improving on previous evidence (if a car was added from a vage screenshot like that Aventador thinking it's a certain model, better screenshots are videos are always welcome, in such case I always update the link to the evidence from the topic post too)

what is also fine for me :
3 - discussions about a car that might be in from weak evidence (like that 911 RSR as as very recent example)
4 - Running a Dictatorship

I know it is really easy to get carried away seeing someone posting a car and then quoting that and turning it in a wishlist for another car (yours truly failed on that multiple times as well) but try to avoid it and post it in the car wishlist thread. I think you can even cross-quote from one thread to another. If you click "reply with quote" and then copy/paste that text into the other thread (and not reply here), I think your quote will still lead to this thread from the other one.

FTFY

F1_Racer68
16-06-2017, 00:07
I know, I know. I checked the picture again and the bonnet is definitely from the 911 GT3 R :(
But the livery, it looks very similar to the one on the 911 GT3 RSR 2017.
We will see...


If you are refering to this image in t he latest article:

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This is most definitely the 2016 Porsche Factory livery, and yes, it does resemble the one used on the RSR as seen below:

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The 2017 livery is very different as seen here:

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Cheesenium
16-06-2017, 02:34
The 911 RSR from GTE or GTLM look-alike on the GT3 version is because that's the new customer racing livery for the GT3 race car.

http://files2.porsche.com/filestore/image/multimedia/none/motorsport-991-2nd-gt3-cup-modelsite-intro/normal/be86e1d1-0fcd-11e7-8503-0019999cd470/porsche-normal.jpg

Source: http://www.porsche.com/australia/motorsportandevents/motorsport/customerracing/

F1_Racer68
16-06-2017, 03:25
And here is confirmation on the Porsche. It's the 2016 911 GT3R in factory liveries.

http://en.postupnews.com/2016/10/porsche-911-gt3-r-goes-racing-in-macau-sepang.html?m=1

MillsLayne
16-06-2017, 04:03
^Complete with the Gran Turismo banner? :p

Konan
16-06-2017, 04:03
Also can no-one look at the tracklist thread for a little while, we may have slightly off topic Haha

...fixed...

Zpectre87
16-06-2017, 04:17
The new 911 GTE is easy to spot. No 911 has a bigger diffuser than that, because they're all rear-engined while the new RSR is mid-engined. :P

hkraft300
16-06-2017, 04:19
So not counting on the 2017 SMS-R studio spec cars, we already have a handful of "2017" including the NSX racer. Granted the real life NSX GT3 was already revealed summer 2016 while the 911 RSR was revealed to the public late 2016. But is there a chance the 911 RSR will be in the base game? I would say yes.

I hope so too. It'll be interesting.
Sure they can provide the data to SMS to build the 2017 RSR quickly, but it won't have had the development time on track. SMS may be missing a lot of performance data that Porsche may not release, being their halo GTE car for 2017.
Whereas a "2017" road car would have been on the road testing and prototyping for 1-3 years already, before release.

BUT as a future DLC in 2018 maybe?

Cheesenium
16-06-2017, 06:03
I hope so too. It'll be interesting.
Sure they can provide the data to SMS to build the 2017 RSR quickly, but it won't have had the development time on track. SMS may be missing a lot of performance data that Porsche may not release, being their halo GTE car for 2017.
Whereas a "2017" road car would have been on the road testing and prototyping for 1-3 years already, before release.

BUT as a future DLC in 2018 maybe?

I guess the RSR would be a DLC as they probably have enough data. They could probably still release a Porsche focused DLC for Pcars 2 with probably 6 fantastic cars for us to play around.

Potentially another Le Man focused DLC with the newer LMP1s and LMP2s.

KANETAKER
16-06-2017, 07:11
I hope so too. It'll be interesting.
Sure they can provide the data to SMS to build the 2017 RSR quickly, but it won't have had the development time on track. SMS may be missing a lot of performance data that Porsche may not release, being their halo GTE car for 2017.
Whereas a "2017" road car would have been on the road testing and prototyping for 1-3 years already, before release.

BUT as a future DLC in 2018 maybe?

Why not a 2015 - 2016 Porsche 911 GTE instead of 2017 911 GTE for base game?

Also, some confirmation of Ferrari 488 GTE or not?

honespc
16-06-2017, 07:35
Because that's what it's called.....Ah master of the obvious. Sure you were the first of your promotion


That's Porsche's track focused car (not all out race car so it's not "GT3" as in the racing class):

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/911-gt3-models/rear wheels turn a little too?

Cheesenium
16-06-2017, 07:41
Why not a 2015 - 2016 Porsche 911 GTE instead of 2017 911 GTE for base game?

Also, some confirmation of Ferrari 488 GTE or not?

Because SMS have finite resources and time. They cannot include every single car they had licensed.

You are getting quite a good number of GTEs in the core game, that is a pretty good start, to be honest.

KANETAKER
16-06-2017, 08:03
You are getting quite a good number of GTEs in the core game, that is a pretty good start, to be honest.
4 GTE cars... but for can recreate WEC and LeMans races need a complete grid of real GTE cars: Corvette (confirmed), Aston Martin (confirmed), Ford(confirmed), Ferrari(not confirmed) and Porsche (not confirmed).

BWM (confirmed) is running onñy at IMSA and Daytona (for now), but for 2018 will going to run in WEC and LeMans. In that case, the GT3 versions of 488 and 911 can be running at GTE class (for complete the grid) with some custom BoP, or the performance is very different?

hkraft300
16-06-2017, 08:26
BWM (confirmed) is running onñy at IMSA and Daytona (for now), but for 2018 will going to run in WEC and LeMans. In that case, the GT3 versions of 488 and 911 can be running at GTE class (for complete the grid) with some custom BoP, or the performance is very different?

GT3 and GTE will be separate classes.
You can use the multi class option to race them together.
The race results seems as it will show as class position + overall. But we haven't seen a end of race screen showing results yet.
But in some of the recent gameplay footage of the hud shows the car position as overall + class position.

Bealdor
16-06-2017, 08:55
Ah master of the obvious. Sure you were the first of your promotion

Honestly, what kind of answer did you expect?
Nobody knows why Porsche sucks at naming their car models. Maybe you should ask them...

Cheesenium
16-06-2017, 09:06
4 GTE cars... but for can recreate WEC and LeMans races need a complete grid of real GTE cars: Corvette (confirmed), Aston Martin (confirmed), Ford(confirmed), Ferrari(not confirmed) and Porsche (not confirmed).

BWM (confirmed) is running onñy at IMSA and Daytona (for now), but for 2018 will going to run in WEC and LeMans. In that case, the GT3 versions of 488 and 911 can be running at GTE class (for complete the grid) with some custom BoP, or the performance is very different?

3 cars is still better than one. That is 30% of the GTE grid right now while the grid is not that large, to begin with.

The 911 RS or 488 GT3 cannot be retooled as a GTE because it is different cars. There are a lot of little details that separate an M6 GT3 and GTLM that needs some work in order to put the car in GTLM or GTE class.

Project CARS is not looking to create complete grids with all the tracks of a championship. The game is made to represent the widest range of motorsports in the most authentic way.

KANETAKER
16-06-2017, 09:09
GT3 and GTE will be separate classes.
You can use the multi class option to race them together.
The race results seems as it will show as class position + overall. But we haven't seen a end of race screen showing results yet.
But in some of the recent gameplay footage of the hud shows the car position as overall + class position.

This is not a problem. The problem is know if players that driving with 488 GT3 and 911 GT3 can have advantage or disadvantage (in performance) against players with GTE cars (in LeMans and Daytona at least). Hopefully in performance these two GT3 cars are equal to the GTE cars, because otherwise the host would have to manually use a Balance of Performance for equal.

In that case, hopefully the performance of the two GT3 cars is higher than the four confirmed GTE cars, that way it would be easier to implement the BoP. Since on the contrary it would be painful and sad to have to apply the BoP to the GTE and reduce its performance just to be able to use those two GT3 cars. If the current GTE cars can be around 3:52 in LeMans (3:50 in 2017), it would be bad to have to apply a BoP and that is why its lap times increase to 3:54 or more, as if they were a GTE Am instead of a GTE Pro.


3 cars is still better than one.
4 GTE cars with BWM M6.

At least the Ford GT compete with 4 cars (Ford Chip Ganassi team) with which the grill can be replaced. Although the ideal would be to have variety, for example: With 6 different brands you could have 12 or 14 GTE cars competing in GTE Pro (2 cars per brand/team), while in GTE AM there would be absolute freedom to choose cars As long as they have different liveries.

Cheesenium
16-06-2017, 09:28
This is not a problem. The problem is know if players that driving with 488 GT3 and 911 GT3 can have advantage or disadvantage (in performance) against players with GTE cars (in LeMans and Daytona at least). Hopefully in performance these two GT3 cars are equal to the GTE cars, because otherwise the host would have to manually use a Balance of Performance for equal.

If players using 488 GT3 or 911 GT3, they will be part of the GT3 class, not GTE. The GTE version is different from the GT3 version as Ferrari has a conversion kit to convert a GT3 to GTE/GTLM. There is a reason why they split the GT3 and GTE class this time to further differenciate each class.

The GTE will be faster than GT3 in some cases so they will be different class in the game.



At least the Ford GT compete with 4 cars (Ford Chip Ganassi team) with which the grill can be replaced. Although the ideal would be to have variety, for example: With 6 different brands you could have 12 or 14 GTE cars competing in GTE Pro (2 cars per brand/team), while in GTE AM there would be absolute freedom to choose cars As long as they have different liveries.

You can do that with multi class.

hkraft300
16-06-2017, 09:36
Hopefully in performance these two GT3 cars are equal to the GTE cars, because otherwise the host would have to manually use a Balance of Performance for equal.

In that case, hopefully the performance of the two GT3 cars is higher than the four confirmed GTE cars...

:hopelessness:

Olijke Poffer
16-06-2017, 09:44
It is a bit of a mess with the GT class. I lost track of all the GT suffix. Don't know anymore which car has more power.
How do I have to look at the whole GT class. GTE, GT1, GT3' GT4 ? High end to low end?

Tank621
16-06-2017, 09:44
We haven't even technically had any Ferrari announcements, the only Ferraris we know about are the GT3 on the cover and various spots from screenshots and videos usually hidden in the background

breyzipp
16-06-2017, 10:08
It is a bit of a mess with the GT class. I lost track of all the GT suffix. Don't know anymore which car has more power.
How do I have to look at the whole GT class. GTE, GT1, GT3' GT4 ? High end to low end?

Of the modern series from strong to weak it's like this:
Renault RS01 Trophy (one make) > GTE > GT3 > GT4 > GT5.
GTE is the continuation of former GT2.
So in principle GT1 is stronger than GTE but since there is about 15-20 years of technological and regulations evolution I would not really know if a 90s GT1 is actually faster than a 2016 GTE. I would say on tracks that require a lot of downforce the GTE will win, on other tracks the GT1?

Will be fun to give it a try after 22 September. A multi class race with GT1, GTE and GT3 in it. I think it would be very close and depend a lot on the track who comes out on first.

F1_Racer68
16-06-2017, 11:23
GTE and GT3 classes are the same in regards to horsepower (under current/recent rules). In fact, they are really more of a parallel class than one being higher than the other. The main differences are simply as follows:

1. GTE are a bit lighter
2. GTE have larger, grippier tires
3. GTE have NO ABS
4. GTE have different aero package
5. GTE have slightly smaller fuel tank capacity
6. GTE rules are a bit more "open" than GT3 meaning more room for changes to base car such as engine location (Porsche moving engine forward, BMW and Corvette moving engine backwards).

The main reasons GTE are faster over a lap are due to the slightly lighter weight, reduced aero drag and the tires. The actual difference in speed is very small. In fact, IMSA has built a BoP system for their GTD class specifically to ensure the GT3s are slower than the GTE. They have had to resort to slowing them artificially because the 2 classes are so similar.

honespc
16-06-2017, 12:03
The fact GTE have no ABS automatically make them a way more interesting category than GT3.

Do they have control traction too?, if so stronger than gt3?, lighter?

So until now only four GTE cars spotted?, that's really a lot less than GT3 then. Hope we have a couple of GTE more at least so It becomes another favourite category. GT3 is just too boring unless you are riding the Bentley since It's the only one that requires skill. Fun car indeed even if you don't stand a chance against the rest in any track available other than the Nords.

dault3883
16-06-2017, 12:07
The fact GTE have no ABS automatically make them a way more interesting category than GT3.

Do they have control traction too?, if so stronger than gt3?, lighter?

So until now only four GTE cars spotted?, that's really a lot less than GT3 then. Hope we have a couple of GTE more at least so It becomes another favourite category. GT3 is just too boring unless you are riding the Bentley since It's the only one that requires skill. Fun car indeed even if you don't stand a chance against the rest in any track available other than the Nords.

i like the mclaren gt3 cars

honespc
16-06-2017, 12:11
^I want to try the Ferrari GT3 we see in the videos, but I guess there will be no challenge in driving it as there isn't in the rest of the GT3, but of course the Bentley.

I really like the Bentley GT3. It's the only one worth one's time in that category imo. I wonder If they have tweaked its handling in pc2 to a point it's now way more competitive against the others.

The Mclaren GT3 feels just like a Sunday walk in the park.

Cheesenium
16-06-2017, 12:28
The fact GTE have no ABS automatically make them a way more interesting category than GT3.

Do they have control traction too?, if so stronger than gt3?, lighter?

So until now only four GTE cars spotted?, that's really a lot less than GT3 then. Hope we have a couple of GTE more at least so It becomes another favourite category. GT3 is just too boring unless you are riding the Bentley since It's the only one that requires skill. Fun car indeed even if you don't stand a chance against the rest in any track available other than the Nords.

There is only 6 manufacturers with a GTE/GTLM. Even with 4 GTE/GTLM currently, it is quite a decent number of them.

It is a fairly small class to begin with.

honespc
16-06-2017, 12:41
damn.

What about GT1s?. They no longer exist or are now called anything else?

Tank621
16-06-2017, 12:43
damn.

What about GT1s?. They no longer exist or are now called anything else?

Doesn't exist anymore

breyzipp
16-06-2017, 13:16
So until now only four GTE cars spotted?, that's really a lot less than GT3 then. Hope we have a couple of GTE more at least so It becomes another favourite category.

There are simply way more GT3 manufacturers than GTE and that is also what you see in the game. Actually if you look at the grid in Le Mans this weekend then you see almost the entire GTE grid is represented in PCARS2 (albeit 2016 spec) except for the Porsche 911 RSR and the Ferrari 488 GTE (we have the GT3 though, I would think we will get the GTE as well). And that is even without the BMW M6 GTE (which only races in the USA I think?).

Le Mans 2017 GTE (out of my head) :

Porsche 911 RSR (I think we will get this too but maybe DLC)
Aston Martin Vantage GTE (we got)
Ferrari 488 GTE (we will most likely get since they put the M6 in both GT3 and GTE as well)
Corvette C7.R (we got)
Ford GT LM (we got)

Olijke Poffer
16-06-2017, 13:33
Thanks for all the clarifications guys. Much appreciated.

hkraft300
16-06-2017, 14:19
90's GT1 was as fast as LMP of the time. They morphed to LMGTP like the Bentley Speed 8, essentially closed cockpit LMP.
More downforce, less weight, slightly more power.
Original GT1 (CLK GTR, 911 GT1, R390, TS020 GT1) would smash GTE in lap times.

dault3883
16-06-2017, 14:44
90's GT1 was as fast as LMP of the time. They morphed to LMGTP like the Bentley Speed 8, essentially closed cockpit LMP.
More downforce, less weight, slightly more power.
Original GT1 (CLK GTR, 911 GT1, R390, TS020 GT1) would smash GTE in lap times.

well yea they were practicaly prototypes

Azure Flare
16-06-2017, 16:12
Ferrari 488 GTE (we will most likely get since they put the M6 in both GT3 and GTE as well)

I'm gonna go ahead and confirm it since I keep seeing this all the time.

F1_Racer68
16-06-2017, 16:16
The fact GTE have no ABS automatically make them a way more interesting category than GT3.

Do they have control traction too?, if so stronger than gt3?, lighter?

So until now only four GTE cars spotted?, that's really a lot less than GT3 then. Hope we have a couple of GTE more at least so It becomes another favourite category. GT3 is just too boring unless you are riding the Bentley since It's the only one that requires skill. Fun car indeed even if you don't stand a chance against the rest in any track available other than the Nords.

Traction Control is the only driver aid that GTE cars are allowed to be equiped with.

GT3 on the other hand is allowed to use whatever assists the road car has available, which is why some have Stability Control as well as ABS and TCS.

In all honesty, GT3 and GTE-AM are the true parallel classes. They are both the result of a.bit of a.political battle, although I am not sure of the whole back story behind this battle. In some ways it seems similar to.what happened in the U.S with open wheel racing.

GTE is a standrad and rule set defined by the ACO, whereas the GT3 standard is owned and set by SRO (Stephan Rattel Organization). I believe both specifications are backed by FIA which clouds things even more......

dault3883
16-06-2017, 16:26
Arent the FIA and ACO both sanctioning bodies how is it that FIA seems to have a hold over ACO

F1_Racer68
16-06-2017, 16:38
Arent the FIA and ACO both sanctioning bodies how is it that FIA seems to have a hold over ACO

ACO is Le Mans specific. They actually only.sanction the 24 Hors of Le Mans. The FIA sanctions all other global events that are based on the ACOs formula.

dault3883
16-06-2017, 16:43
ACO is Le Mans specific. They actually only.sanction the 24 Hors of Le Mans. The FIA sanctions all other global events that are based on the ACOs formula.

so they dont sanction the European Le mans series? how come

hkraft300
16-06-2017, 17:57
I thought ACO are series organisers/ rights holders of WEC, like imsa weathertech?
And fia do the sporting rules and tech regulations... I could be completely wrong.
ACO do the ELMS too?

dault3883
16-06-2017, 18:03
I thought ACO are series organisers/ rights holders of WEC, like imsa weathertech?
And fia do the sporting rules and tech regulations... I could be completely wrong.
ACO do the ELMS too?

FIA is WEC not ACO. but i thought for sure ACO was ELMS but i could be wrong

F1_Racer68
16-06-2017, 18:17
If it uses the name "Le Mans" then the ACO is involved, but not as the "sanctioning body"

- ELMS, this is a private corporation. ACO is a Partner, and the series abides by ACO regulations/spirit
- WEC, FIA is the sanctioning body. ACO serves as a partner/consultant in regards to regulations
- WeatherTech, IMSA is the sanctioning body. ACO is a partner in order ot ensure GTLM and Global LMP2 cars meet ACO Le Mans regulations (with some felxibility within GTLM).

In the days of the American Le Mans Series, IMSA was also the sanctioning body and abided by ACO regulations, much like ELMS currently does. The ACO's only area of "ownership" right now is the 24 Hours of Le Mans. However, any organizations wishing to be able to enter this race must work with the ACO in order to ensure compliance to their rules and spirit of racing.

Extra info: Gerard Neveau is CEO of BOTH FIA WEC and ELMS.Pierre Fillon is the President of the ACO.

hkraft300
16-06-2017, 18:19
FIA is WEC not ACO. but i thought for sure ACO was ELMS but i could be wrong

Fia is not wec. Wec is a competition, like v8 supercars. Fia write the rules (for F1 for example), like CAMS in Australia regulate Australian motor sport.

F1_Racer68
16-06-2017, 18:39
Fia is not wec. Wec is a competition, like v8 supercars. Fia write the rules (for F1 for example), like CAMS in Australia regulate Australian motor sport.

Correct. The Series (WEC, F1, GP2, etc.) are a corporation, owned by a group or an individual. The sactioning body (FIA, ACO, IMSA, etc.) are the group that oversees the regulatiosn and approves/licenses the series to allow the series to actually compete.

Think about it in terms of the American Automotive industry. GM, Ford and Chrysler are the manufacturers who actually own the products (equivalent to the SERIES). The U.S Department of Transportation is the one that approves the manufacturesrs cars for sale to the public, and mandates the safety regulations (Sanctioning body).

In the case of Formula 1, Liberty Media owns the Formula1 series, but FIA is the sanctioning body that governs the rules of Formula1. Liberty Media can put forward rule changes, but FIA has to approve them.

In the case of WEC and ELMS, Gerard Neveu's corporations own both Series, but FIA governs the rules (with input from ACO) and in the case of ELMS, ACO governs the rules directly (although not as a sanctioning body. This one is a bit unique).

Go back to pre 2014 in the U.S and Dr. Don Panoz owned the ALMS. It was SANCTIONED by IMSA, with a partnership with the ACO to ensure the rules were compatible.

I hope that helped clear things up. I think it's time to get back on topic before the mods get on our cases. ;)

Tank621
16-06-2017, 18:49
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So there are RS01s mixed in with that lot, could that mean the GT3 version is in?

dault3883
16-06-2017, 18:54
Fia is not wec. Wec is a competition, like v8 supercars. Fia write the rules (for F1 for example), like CAMS in Australia regulate Australian motor sport.

i was refering that FIA is the sanctioning body for WEC sorry for the confusion of my short hand

F1_Racer68
16-06-2017, 18:57
238195
So there are RS01s mixed in with that lot, could that mean the GT3 version is in?

It's possible, and wouldn't surprise me. Unfortunatley, with the ability to run mulitclass now it makes it almost impossible to confirm anything from just a screen shot :(

Going by the fact that most "current" cars are being based on 2016 regulations though, and seeing how the RS01 was homologated into GT3 for the 2016 season, I would be pretty willing to place money on it being GT3 spec in game. Purely speculation on my part though.

Tank621
16-06-2017, 19:54
It's possible, and wouldn't surprise me. Unfortunatley, with the ability to run mulitclass now it makes it almost impossible to confirm anything from just a screen shot :(

Going by the fact that most "current" cars are being based on 2016 regulations though, and seeing how the RS01 was homologated into GT3 for the 2016 season, I would be pretty willing to place money on it being GT3 spec in game. Purely speculation on my part though.

It looks like there Clio cups, touring cars, GT4 and GT3 in that picture, is the class limit 4? because if so that would confirm the RS01 GT3

Roger Prynne
16-06-2017, 19:56
I hope that helped clear things up. I think it's time to get back on topic before the mods get on our cases. ;)

I'm on your case, so get back on topic :devilish:

dault3883
16-06-2017, 19:58
I'm on your case, so get back on topic :devilish:

SIR, YES SIR LOL JK

F1_Racer68
16-06-2017, 20:09
I'm on your case, so get back on topic :devilish:

Figured it would be either you or Konan that would yell at us first. Wanted to try and steal your thunder though :p

F1_Racer68
16-06-2017, 20:10
It looks like there Clio cups, touring cars, GT4 and GT3 in that picture, is the class limit 4? because if so that would confirm the RS01 GT3

Good point. Yes at last confirmation from "The_American" (we know who you really are ;) ) on GT Planet it was 4 classes, so you raise a very valid point.

breyzipp
16-06-2017, 20:33
It's possible, and wouldn't surprise me. Unfortunatley, with the ability to run mulitclass now it makes it almost impossible to confirm anything from just a screen shot :(

Going by the fact that most "current" cars are being based on 2016 regulations though, and seeing how the RS01 was homologated into GT3 for the 2016 season, I would be pretty willing to place money on it being GT3 spec in game. Purely speculation on my part though.

It's a bit of a mixed bag, could be either one, or both. I believe the first time we saw the car it was only with other Renault RS01's on the track. And in that Red Bull Ring GT3 demo from the April media demo the car was not in the grid (unlike a lot of the other GT3s). And in Project CARS 1 it is also the RS01 Trophy car. And you don't see the GT3 car that much in races, only the Hankook 24h series I think? I saw it in Hankook Dubai for sure but I think it was not present at Paul Ricard? So those 4 things combined are why I thought it would be the RS01 Trophy car and not the GT3 car.

But, since the game has grown from 170+ cars to 180+ cars since februari, I wouldn't be surprised if we would get some more of these "duplicate" cars. And with duplicate I mean that in no disrespectful way at all, I love having the M6 in both GT3 and GTE, I love having the Escort 1600 Mk1 as a classic race car and rallycross car. And there are a few more cars like that. But with duplicate I mean that a lot of the artwork can be repeated from the first car, a lot of the handling model probably as well. So what I just want to say is that SMS probably saves a significant amount of development time it takes to create a brand new car from scratch when they can "duplicate" a car from one racing series to another. And I think it's a great thing to do. From the modern GT classes the Ferrari 488 race car is definitely one of my favorite ones and it would be ace to see both the GT3 and GTE versions in the game (as Azure already hinted ;) )

breyzipp
16-06-2017, 20:35
Figured it would be either you or Konan that would yell at us first. Wanted to try and steal your thunder though :p

Konan won't be here today, he is still finishing his blue cheese burger. ;)

breyzipp
16-06-2017, 20:51
Good point. Yes at last confirmation from "The_American" (we know who you really are ;) ) on GT Planet it was 4 classes, so you raise a very valid point.

It will be max 4 diff classes for multiclass races yes. And indeed very solid point from Tank.

I looked up the livery of the RS01 in GT3 spec from the 24h Dubai in january 2017, it's quite similar as the base RS01 trophy spec but with some extra sponsors on it. In-game it seems to be the same livery as PC1 right? But maybe it still needs to be updated.

Not sure if I should add it to GT3 as well or not. Or maybe even remove it as a single-make race. I remember SMS saying they want more cars in the same class. PC1 sure had a lot of stagglers cars (or max 2 or something) from a racing series, so they want to avoid that and I fully agree. However, I don't think they will just start removing single-make series, I really like those as well (like Clio cup, RX01 cup, Formula Gulf, Formula Renault 3.5, heck even the new GRC Lites rallycross car is a single-make)

I really hope the car is in it's most powerful spec (RS trophy) in game again. If I would have to choose between RTS01 Trophy and GT3 then hands down RS01 Trophy. It would be a stronger car than the GTE/GT3 so would be missing out to not have it IMO (you would basically remove the most powerful modern GT race car from the game). And otherwise we would also loose the strongest GT class for multiclass racing. I mean, just a simple Renault 2-class race with the RS01 Trophy and Clio Cup would already be fun. Or like RS01, GT3, touring, Clio would also be very interesting.

For now I'll just add the car in both GT3 and RS01 trophy but with a footnote linking to Tank's post for both.


RS01 in GT3 spec at 24h Dubai :
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breyzipp
16-06-2017, 21:05
Tank, F1_Racer click the link on the RS01 on the topic post. That was at that NVIDIA presentation that we first saw the car. That top screenshot is only RS01's so I would think that is the RS01 Trophy for sure, why else would they only just show this car when you have amost 15 GT3's in game. But Tank's multiclass comment is very valid as well. So hopefully both will be in.

F1_Racer68
16-06-2017, 21:14
It will be max 4 diff classes for multiclass races yes. And indeed very solid point from Tank.

I looked up the livery of the RS01 in GT3 spec from the 24h Dubai in january 2017, it's quite similar as the base RS01 trophy spec but with some extra sponsors on it. In-game it seems to be the same livery as PC1 right? But maybe it still needs to be updated.

Not sure if I should add it to GT3 as well or not. Or maybe even remove it as a single-make race. I remember SMS saying they want more cars in the same class. PC1 sure had a lot of stagglers cars (or max 2 or something) from a racing series, so they want to avoid that and I fully agree. However, I don't think they will just start removing single-make series, I really like those as well (like Clio cup, RX01 cup, Formula Gulf, Formula Renault 3.5, heck even the new GRC Lites rallycross car is a single-make)

I really hope the car is in it's most powerful spec (RS trophy) in game again. If I would have to choose between RTS01 Trophy and GT3 then hands down RS01 Trophy. It would be a stronger car than the GTE/GT3 so would be missing out to not have it IMO (you would basically remove the most powerful modern GT race car from the game). And otherwise we would also loose the strongest GT class for multiclass racing. I mean, just a simple Renault 2-class race with the RS01 Trophy and Clio Cup would already be fun. Or like RS01, GT3, touring, Clio would also be very interesting.

For now I'll just add the car in both GT3 and RS01 trophy but with a footnote linking to Tank's post for both.


RS01 in GT3 spec at 24h Dubai :
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It's quite possible that we will see both version, but I would not mark the GT3 version as "confirmed" yet, until we get official SMS confirmation, or until we can confimr it ourselves on Sep 22nd. I've already blocked that day as vacation, so I will confirm it for you as soon as I can if it hasn't already been :D

snipeme77
16-06-2017, 21:53
It's quite possible that we will see both version, but I would not mark the GT3 version as "confirmed" yet, until we get official SMS confirmation, or until we can confimr it ourselves on Sep 22nd. I've already blocked that day as vacation, so I will confirm it for you as soon as I can if it hasn't already been :D

I guess we'll call it GT ish

breyzipp
16-06-2017, 21:59
I've already blocked that day as vacation, so I will confirm it for you as soon as I can if it hasn't already been :D

Hey hey hey, don't be so naive into thinking that this fella will be working the 22nd of sept! ;) But I think leading up to the release date the entire car list will be on the official website as well, they did so with PCARS1 too. Actually the thing that sold PCARS1 for me back in the days when I was eagerly awaiting FM6 (yeah we can all be idiots at some point) was that long track list on the PCARS 1 website. In general I care a lot more about the tracks than the cars and SMS did a great job on the first game into listing all tracks on the website as that got me interested. :) The cars lacked photos though, I hope closer to release date they have in-game shots of each car as well since I had to manually copy/paste the cars I didn't know into Google and I'm sure not everyone is willing to do that. And that car list from PCARS 1 is great. :)

Konan
17-06-2017, 03:14
Konan won't be here today, he is still finishing his blue cheese burger. ;)

...actually i was finishing some beers...:p

Jocker
17-06-2017, 13:32
No Ferrari 488 and Porsche 911 in the LM GTE category ? Thanks

Tank621
17-06-2017, 13:42
No Ferrari 488 and Porsche 911 in the LM GTE category ? Thanks

Not confirmed at the moment, bear in mind we haven't had any actual Ferrari announcements yet, so it could still be included

Jocker
17-06-2017, 13:54
Ok thanks Tank ;)

breyzipp
17-06-2017, 13:54
No Ferrari 488 and Porsche 911 in the LM GTE category ? Thanks

It seems to be the case that cars are announced per theme. We had the Indycar & Indianapolis theme, we had the Porsche theme. I'm sure there will be dedicated articles about Ferrari and Lamborghini as well. I would also expect the 2016 Porsche 919 Hybrid to be in the game (or well let's say I would be seriously surprised if it was not in) and that car was not in the Porsche article. So I think down the road there will be a LMP1 article coming as well.

Also note that from a marketing perspective, it makes sense to save the best for last. :) Ice racing was announced first in february and let's admit it I think this was something nobody was waiting for (but can still be fun!). Then we got rallycross, also something I think the most avid PCARS 1 GT/LMP racing fan wasn't really interested in (but again, can be great fun and yours truly enjoys it in Dirty 4). Then we went to Indianapolis and IndyCar, I'm sure I'm not the only one here who isn't very interested in ovals and cars for ovals, right? :P And now we got Porsche announced.... I think from a global perspective it gets better and better.

Seriously, I think SMS their marketing team is doing this one clever, slowly releasing information over time starting with the least popular articles leading up to the most popular ones very close to release date. If I'm right then expect the best of the best (articles about LMP1, LMP2, GTE, GT3, eSports, career calendar) closer to release date. I still expect articles about Le Mans, classic Monza, 1998 GT1 and of course Ferrari and Porsche as well. A bit surprised there was nothing new concerning Le Mans this week though, I mean it was already revealed the track is laser scanned now. But you can't really do an article about Le Mans without saying anything about your LMP1 class so maybe it will still come later. ;)

Jocker
17-06-2017, 13:59
I hope Breyzipp ;)

Aile_Bleue
17-06-2017, 14:31
Ford Mustang !!!

238204

BMW 2002 !!!

238205


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJA4ZZokxWg

breyzipp
17-06-2017, 16:50
Ford Mustang !!!

BMW 2002 !!!



Good found, added them both to historic touring (they were there in PCARS1 as well).

Tank621
17-06-2017, 16:59
Also a lot of GT86/86/FRS in that video too by the looks of it

snipeme77
17-06-2017, 19:52
Good found, added them both to historic touring (they were there in PCARS1 as well).

God no... please no street cars in a racing class

dault3883
17-06-2017, 19:55
God no... please no street cars in a racing class

they raced the ford mustang in Trans-am series it was a race car too

Mad Al
17-06-2017, 20:12
God no... please no street cars in a racing class

All cars in the video are from the same road car class... it was set up (as per the blurb on youtube which I should probably have put into the WMD videos thread) as a single class Road G event.

Road cars are split in classes A through G and separate from any racing class... then there are a couple of slightly mixed road/track classes for track only and road legal track cars

Tank621
17-06-2017, 21:20
Also a lot of GT86/86/FRS in that video too by the looks of it

Sorry for the repost, I just want to make sure we don't miss anything on the list

https://youtu.be/zJA4ZZokxWg

breyzipp
17-06-2017, 21:47
All cars in the video are from the same road car class... it was set up (as per the blurb on youtube which I should probably have put into the WMD videos thread) as a single class Road G event.

Road cars are split in classes A through G and separate from any racing class... then there are a couple of slightly mixed road/track classes for track only and road legal track cars

That is some nice info, thanks! I will start converting the road cars the way I have them listed towards the A...G road cars. But for a lot of cars I have no data yet so I will leave them where they are now.

Could you post the list of "road G" cars in that time lapse video or do you enjoy seeing me suffer as well? :P

or at least let us know which of these return from PC1 since that's just impossible to see from the video :)

2013 Toyota 86
2013 Toyota GT-86
2013 Scion FR-S

what I also see in the video (so these are all also road G then):
2015 Vaughn Gittin Jr.’s Ford F-150 Ultimate Fun-Haver
1966 Ford Mustang 2+2 Fastback
1973 BMW 2002 Turbo
1970 Ford Escort RS 1600

a bit of a weird mix for sure, I liked the way I had them grouped a lot more. So historic touring B (from PCARS 1) has basically just be moved to road cars?

Konan
18-06-2017, 08:26
Ok...cleaned the thread up again...try to stay on topic please guys (if only for breyzipp's peace of mind :cool: )

hkraft300
18-06-2017, 08:29
Surprised I haven't seen any Ricky Bobby Talladega nights references.

dault3883
18-06-2017, 09:22
Surprised I haven't seen any Ricky Bobby Talladega nights references.

that can be arranged LOL JK

Konan
18-06-2017, 09:38
that can be arranged LOL JK

...not in this thread it won't...:p

dault3883
18-06-2017, 10:26
...not in this thread it won't...:p

i know i said could not would LOL im tired iv been up since 7am saterday morning eastern standard american time

Konan
18-06-2017, 10:28
i know i said could not would LOL im tired iv been up since 7am saterday morning eastern standard american time

Well...maybe a silly suggestion but.....go to sleep...lol

dault3883
18-06-2017, 10:33
Well...maybe a silly suggestion but.....go to sleep...lol

cant 2 1/2 hours left in le mans must stay awake till finish

Azure Flare
18-06-2017, 13:57
...not in this thread it won't...:p

https://www.bonkers.uk.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1800x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/n/o/noriffraff2.jpg

breyzipp
18-06-2017, 22:19
Just FYI guys, I'm on holidays for the next 2 weeks going to a salsa/bachata/kizomba double festival in Rovinj, Kroatia. One of my activities will be dancing sensual kizomba with girls in bikini's at pool parties (I'm not kidding :P). I'll take my iPhone and iPad with me so there will be some moments I'll still visit the forum (probably about once a day back in my appartement between dinner and the late night parties). In case new cars or tracks are revealed I should still be able to update the topic posts.

F1_Racer68
18-06-2017, 23:10
Just FYI guys, I'm on holidays for the next 2 weeks going to a salsa/bachata/kizomba double festival in Rovinj, Kroatia. One of my activities will be dancing sensual kizomba with girls in bikini's at pool parties (I'm not kidding :P). I'll take my iPhone and iPad with me so there will be some moments I'll still visit the forum (probably about once a day back in my appartement between dinner and the late night parties). In case new cars or tracks are revealed I should still be able to update the topic posts.

How dare you?!?! That is just UNACCEPTABLE!! How dare you take vacation and shirk your responsibilities like this!!


JUST KIDDING! :D

Enjoy your vacation. When you get back you will hopefully have a LOT of work to do. ;)

hkraft300
19-06-2017, 01:39
Just FYI guys, I'm on holidays for the next 2 weeks going to a salsa/bachata/kizomba double festival in Rovinj, Kroatia.

Make a list ;)

Azure Flare
19-06-2017, 03:51
I'll make my own confirmed things thread with blackjack, and hookers!

In fact, forget the thread!

dault3883
19-06-2017, 13:14
Just FYI guys, I'm on holidays for the next 2 weeks going to a salsa/bachata/kizomba double festival in Rovinj, Kroatia. One of my activities will be dancing sensual kizomba with girls in bikini's at pool parties (I'm not kidding :P). I'll take my iPhone and iPad with me so there will be some moments I'll still visit the forum (probably about once a day back in my appartement between dinner and the late night parties). In case new cars or tracks are revealed I should still be able to update the topic posts.

TAKE ME WITH YOU LOL JK

GenBrien
19-06-2017, 13:24
JK
is it? :rolleyes:

dault3883
19-06-2017, 13:28
is it? :rolleyes:

yes it was just a joke im still recovering from Le Mans id probably sleep the whole vacation LOL

snipeme77
19-06-2017, 16:09
238221

Just some more proof that the RS01 is the cup version. Almost all the other GT3 cars have the white box style number with the GT3 class on top, here we just have a 01 on the carbon fiber bit. Slight pity, but I would say it's the cup car.

dault3883
19-06-2017, 16:11
238221

Just some more proof that the RS01 is the cup version. Almost all the other GT3 cars have the white box style number with the GT3 class on top, here we just have a 01 on the carbon fiber bit. Slight pity, but I would say it's the cup car.

that sucks since the RS01 is used in the GT3 series in blaincapain series

Tank621
19-06-2017, 16:42
238221

Just some more proof that the RS01 is the cup version. Almost all the other GT3 cars have the white box style number with the GT3 class on top, here we just have a 01 on the carbon fiber bit. Slight pity, but I would say it's the cup car.

I wouldn't call it proof that this means we're not getting the GT3. The RS01 appears in a screenshot with Clio Cups, Touring Cars, GT4s and GT3s. The class limit is 4. To be honest it looks alot like we are getting both, and we've seen multiple other cars having multiple versions (BMW M6 GTLM and GT3 are in the game)

Azure Flare
19-06-2017, 16:56
What of I told you both the Cup and GT3 versions will be in?

hkraft300
19-06-2017, 18:13
What of I told you both the Cup and GT3 versions will be in?

Cue Morpheus meme...

dault3883
19-06-2017, 18:18
What of I told you both the Cup and GT3 versions will be in?

id build a shrine and praise you LOL JK

snipeme77
19-06-2017, 18:59
I wouldn't call it proof that this means we're not getting the GT3. The RS01 appears in a screenshot with Clio Cups, Touring Cars, GT4s and GT3s. The class limit is 4. To be honest it looks alot like we are getting both, and we've seen multiple other cars having multiple versions (BMW M6 GTLM and GT3 are in the game)

What are the touring cars in that pic, I only see the clios, gt4 and gt3 with the RS01 being the odd ball out?

snipeme77
19-06-2017, 19:01
What of I told you both the Cup and GT3 versions will be in?

Could be, and I hope so. RS01 is my favorite racing car of recent years. It's just so out of left field

Tank621
19-06-2017, 19:03
What are the touring cars in that pic, I only see the clios, gt4 and gt3 with the RS01 being the odd ball out?

238223

snipeme77
19-06-2017, 19:07
238223

I still see Clio, GT4 and 3 classes here. Remember I posted this picture

dault3883
19-06-2017, 19:10
I still see Clio, GT4 and 3 classes here. Remember I posted this picture

well the clio are probably the touring cars they all look the same to me theres also the yellow bmw touring car with red mirrors about 9th back left side if facing picture

snipeme77
19-06-2017, 19:17
well the clio are probably the touring cars they all look the same to me theres also the yellow bmw touring car with red mirrors about 9th back left side if facing picture

Well the clios are a touring class, but I was looking for like a DTM or super 2000 car and I'm just not seeing it. Even that BMW could be the GT4 version because they look extremely close.

This is kind of the sucky thing about Studio tuned cars, just looking at them, it's hard to tell what they would race in. I'll take you're guy's word for it though.

Tank621
19-06-2017, 19:32
Outside, 4th from the back and the 3 in front of it are defintely not Clio cups or GT4s, try zooming in for a better look

Also it has been suggested that classes would be fairly evenly split so it wouldn't make sense to have a lone RS01 in the field

snipeme77
19-06-2017, 19:34
Outside, 4th from the back and the 3 in front of it are defintely not Clio cups or GT4s, try zooming in for a better look

Also it has been suggested that classes would be fairly evenly split so it wouldn't make sense to have a lone RS01 in the field

Okay I see what you mean now

KANETAKER
19-06-2017, 20:12
238223

These cars just are the three classes that always running at Nordschleifle in the "24H of Nurburgring".

Some absent cars are the SCG 003C and Opel Manta.

dault3883
19-06-2017, 20:12
These cars just are the three classes that always running at Nordschleifle in the "24H of Nurburgring".

The only absent car is the SCG 003C.

you forgot one other car the Opel Manta Foxtail

238224

Konan
19-06-2017, 20:20
@KANETAKER...you do know there is an "edit post" option right?

KANETAKER
19-06-2017, 20:46
@KANETAKER...you do know there is an "edit post" option right?

I just write Opel Manta some minutes ago.

I'm very busy with personal issues for can be able to devote my full attention to this matter or any new reply added each minute or second. If in that case someone would pay me for that would already be different. xD