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breyzipp
09-02-2017, 19:28
Below is the full track list for Project CARS 2. Tracks which are only available in a DLC pack are indicated this way, for example {Fun Pack}.

Some comments & remarks:

1) I grouped all geographical locations together, for example for example for Spa the GP circuit, the historical circuit and the karting circuit (AKA Greenwood) are all added to the same location. That way the number of locations on this track list is 52 in total (in the base game).

2) All tracks which weren't in Project CARS 1 yet have been either laser scanned or drone scanned. Brands Hatch, Cadwell Park, Oulton Park and Snetterton were already laser scanned for Project CARS 1. Some tracks that weren't scanned in Project CARS 1 yet have been scanned by SMS for Project CARS 2, the only tracks we know so far where this applies are the Nürburgring Nordschleife and the 24 Heures du Mans circuit (I assume they have scanned the entire location there including the Nürburgring GP circuit and the Bugatti Circuit). There might be more PCARS1 tracks that have been laser scanned (I think Hockenheim might be as well since part of it is used for the RX track which supposed to be scanned as well).

Info for the track origin (leading character on the list):

(L) - Laser/drone scanned real world track
(S) - Standard real world track
(F) - Fictional track

Info for the track type (track text color on the list):

tarmac stage (point-to-point)
tarmac circuit
historic circuit
rallycross circuit
ice racing circuit
karting circuit



ASIA & OCEANIA

China - Zhuhai International Circuit
(S) GP

Japan - Fuji Speedway
(L) GP

Japan - Sakitto
(F) GP
(F) Sprint
(F) National
(F) International

Japan - Sportsland Sugo
(L) International

UAE - Dubai Autodrome
(S) GP
(S) International
(S) National
(S) Club
(S) Kartdrome

Australia - Mount Panorama Circuit (Bathurst)
(S) Road

New Zealand - Mike Pero Motorsport Park (Ruapuna)
(S) GP
(S) Club
(S) Club without dipper (outer loop)
(S) A Circuit
(S) B Circuit



EUROPE & AFRICA

Austria - Red Bull Ring
(L) GP
(L) National
(L) Club

Belgium - Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps
(S) 1947-1978 Historic GP
(S) GP (with original grid & F1 pits)
(S) Karting (Greenwood)

Belgium - Circuit Zolder
(S) GP

Czech Republic - Masaryk Circuit (Automotodrom Brno)
(S) GP

England - Brands Hatch
(L) GP
(L) Indy
(L) 1982-1994 Historic RX {Fun Pack}

England - Cadwell Park
(L) Full (GP)
(L) Club
(L) Woodland

England - Chesterfield
(F) Karting

England - Donington Park
(S) GP
(S) National

England - Glencairn
(F) Full
(F) Reverse
(F) East
(F) East Reverse
(F) West
(F) West Reverse

England - Lydden Hill Race Circuit
(L) GP
(L) RX

England - Oulton Park
(L) International
(L) Island
(L) Fosters

England - Silverstone Circuit
(S) 1975-1986 Historic GP
(S) Arena GP
(S) International
(S) National
(S) Stowe Long

England - Snetterton Circuit
(L) 300 (GP)
(L) 200
(L) 100

France - Circuit de Lohéac
(L) RX

France - Circuit de la Sarthe (Le Mans)
(S) Circuit des 24 Heures
(S) Le Circuit Bugatti
(L) Karting International

France - Côte d'Azur (Azure Coast)
(F) Full
(F) Stage 1
(F) Stage 2
(F) Stage 3
(F) Reverse (Westbound)

France - Rouen-Les-Essarts
(S) 1955-1970 Historic GP
(S) 1972-1973 Historic GP (short)

Germany - Hockenheimring
(S) 1982-2001 Historic GP
(S) GP
(S) National
(S) Short Circuit 2
(L) RX

Germany - Nürburgring
(L) Nordschleife & GP combined (without Mercedes arena, through motorcycle chicane)
(L) Nordschleife
(L) GP
(L) Sprint
(L) Sprint (short, without Mercedes arena)
(L) Müllenbachschleife
(L) Nordschleife stage 1
(L) Nordschleife stage 2
(L) Nordschleife stage 3

Germany - Motorsport Arena Oschersleben
(S) A Course (GP)
(S) B Course
(S) C Course

Italy - Autodromo Internazionale Enzo e Dino Ferrari (Imola)
(S) GP

Italy - Autodromo Nazionale Monza
(S) 1955-1969 Historic Full Course (Road + Oval combined)
(S) 1955-1973 Historic Road Course (GP)
(S) 1955-1969 Historic Oval
(S) GP
(S) Junior (short, with extra chicane)

Monaco - Circuit de Monaco (Azure Circuit)
(S) GP

Norway - Lånkebanen (Hell)
(L) RX

Portugal - Autódromo Internacional do Algarve (Portimão)
(L) Fast Fast (no chicanes)

Scotland - Bannochbrae
(F) Road Circuit

Scotland - Knockhill Racing Circuit
(L) International
(L) International Reverse
(L) National
(L) National Reverse
(L) Tri-Oval
(L) RX

Spain - Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya
(S) GP
(S) National (through Nissan Chicane)
(S) Club
(L) RX {Fun Pack}

Sweden - Mercedes-Benz Onroad Winter driving events
(L) Ice Track 1
(L) Ice Track 2
(L) Ice Track 3
(L) Ice Track 4
(L) Ice Track 5 (Track 2 & 4 combined)
(L) Ice Track Full (area free roam)

South Africa - Wildcrest Rallycross
(F) RX



NORTH AMERICA

Canada - Sampala Ice Circuit
(F) Ice Circuit

USA - California Highway
(F) Full
(F) Stage 1
(F) Stage 2
(F) Stage 3
(F) Reverse

USA - Circuit of the Americas
(L) GP
(L) National
(L) Club

USA - Daytona International Speedway
(L) Tri-Oval
(L) Road Course
(L) RX

USA - DirtFish
(L) Pro Rallycross Course
(L) Mill Run Course
(L) Boneyard Course

USA - Indianapolis Motor Speedway
(L) Oval
(L) Road Course

USA - Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
(S) Road

USA - Mojave Desert
(F) Boa Ascent
(F) Sidewinder
(F) Coyote Noose
(F) Gila Crest
(F) Cougar Ridge

USA - Road America
(S) Road Course

USA - Sonoma Raceway
(S) NASCAR Circuit (Short)
(S) Long Circuit (GP)
(S) 2005 Indycar Circuit (National)

USA - Summerton Karting Circuit
(F) Full
(F) National
(F) Sprint

USA - Texas Motor Speedway
(L) Oval
(L) Road Course
(L) Infield Course

USA - Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach
(L) Street Circuit

USA - Watkins Glen International
(S) GP
(S) Short

USA - Willow Springs International Motorsports Park
(S) Big Willow
(S) Horse Thief Mile

breyzipp
09-02-2017, 19:46
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Mad Al
09-02-2017, 20:42
Again here the same question guys, should I or should I not include track info from the leaked trailer? I prefer to not consider something official unless it was seen in official videos or screenshots. Remember the sad thing that happened to historical Spa for PC1 guys, tracks CAN be cut. :(

How about from the horses mouth

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-general-discussion-thread.342814/page-19#post-11703139

specific mention of a certain German track and a laser..

breyzipp
09-02-2017, 20:59
How about from the horses mouth

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-general-discussion-thread.342814/page-19#post-11703139

specific mention of a certain German track and a laser..

Yes I know that thread. :) Adding info from it soon (also Indianapolis and Texas Speedway)

breyzipp
09-02-2017, 21:31
Even with the missing Spa and Texas + Indianapolis added we are still missing a whoppin' 13 brand new locations. I assume (hope) that 2 of the missing ones are Sonoma and Monza. The curtain hasn't fallen yet either on Suzuka vs Sakitto. Ian did mention somewhere that some track content didnt make it from PC1 to PC2 though, I hope it's just the missing kart tracks but I fear a little bit for Monza. Also remember we can still have additional content under existing locations as well. Fingers crossed for that historic Spa from the PC1 beta, that track looked MAGIC. :)

breyzipp
09-02-2017, 21:42
The rallycross/offroad track from the official trailer. I think I read somewhere this was Hell, Norway which can also be found in Dirt Rally. Can anyone confirm this?

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Schadows
09-02-2017, 21:43
Doesnt the official trailer contain scenes with Portimao and Long Beach ? (I even think you can spot Sugo race track in here)

breyzipp
09-02-2017, 21:44
Doesnt the official trailer contain scenes with Portimao and Long Beach ? (I even think you can spot Sugo race track in here)

Yes Long Beach I have added. And err Porti-what? :)

edit - ok checked up on that track. I remember Ian also confirming a Portugese track would be in so that might probably be this one.

breyzipp
09-02-2017, 21:47
I'm a bit worried about Monaco AKA Azure circuit when you look at the screenshot from this thread : http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?49899-Project-CARS-2-confirmed-car-list&p=1322944&viewfull=1#post1322944

That track from date 28 nov, that seems like a mirrored Monaco circuit. Might they have run into problems with PC1 and have to change it for PC2? In that case I'll rename Monaco from the name and tag it fictional as well.

satco1066
09-02-2017, 22:58
look at that
https://www.google.at/search?q=dirt+fish&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwigtrefm4TSAhVMCpoKHb2hCN4Q_AUICCgB&biw=1920&bih=916#imgrc=2ELZAiEr3Wr8AM:

Roger Prynne
10-02-2017, 00:10
The rallycross/offroad track from the official trailer. I think I read somewhere this was Hell, Norway which can also be found in Dirt Rally. Can anyone confirm this?

Oh Hell you could be right ;)

DARIUS213456
10-02-2017, 00:29
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Nothing other then the one scene from the official trailer but this might be Sugo.

hkraft300
10-02-2017, 00:49
What track is that still shot of the hairpin on the trailer that shows the seasons change?

TexasTyme214
10-02-2017, 00:56
I'd have to see the picture, but I believe you're talking about turn 2 from Brands Hatch.

JessicaWalter
10-02-2017, 02:14
oh F#%÷! FUJI!!!!

jimmyb_84
10-02-2017, 02:26
I'd have to see the picture, but I believe you're talking about turn 2 from Brands Hatch.

yes i agree

MillsLayne
10-02-2017, 02:58
oh F#%÷! FUJI!!!!

I got excited, too, when I saw the mountain in the background.

Alan Dallas
10-02-2017, 03:18
Well, this is kinda of fun; watching you guys speculate. :barbershop_quartet_

cxMilk
10-02-2017, 03:21
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Nothing other then the one scene from the official trailer but this might be Sugo.
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It does look like it, doesn't it?

Rambo_Commando
10-02-2017, 04:44
Canada gets no love?

Ravager619
10-02-2017, 06:44
If we're getting Daytona, is it the oval? The road course? Both?

breyzipp
10-02-2017, 06:51
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It does look like it, doesn't it?

Great find! I would say that counts as confirmed, it makes sense as well for them to show the NSX on a Japanese circuit, even if its the Acura and not the Honda. :P

Should I add it?

Any confirmation yet on Hell?

I'll try to find Ian's quote about the Portugese track too, think it was in that long thread on GT planet.

breyzipp
10-02-2017, 06:54
If we're getting Daytona, is it the oval? The road course? Both?

I would assume at least the tri-oval circuit and the sportscar circuit. They are both iconical track configurations, the first one for everything American with ovals, the second one for the 24h of Daytona with Prototypes and GTLM/GT3 racing.

I don't care so much for the motorcycle circuit but hey it's nice to have as well.

http://www.racingcircuits.info/north-america/usa/daytona.html#.WJ1xwDsrKUk

ryandtw
10-02-2017, 07:31
When Gran Turismo had Daytona, they had the sports car road course, but not the motorcycle course. Also the oval was included (obviously), but for some reason the road course had the older version of the busstop chicane...

Schadows
10-02-2017, 08:26
Yes Long Beach I have added. And err Porti-what? :)

edit - ok checked up on that track. I remember Ian also confirming a Portugese track would be in so that might probably be this one.The official trailer clearly shows the Autódromo Internacional do Algarve located at Portimão.



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Nothing other then the one scene from the official trailer but this might be Sugo.I'm glad my eyes didn't deceive me ^^'

konnos
10-02-2017, 08:55
What track is that still shot of the hairpin on the trailer that shows the seasons change?

I am pretty sure this is Brands Hatch.

Invincible
10-02-2017, 09:05
I am pretty sure this is Brands Hatch.

It is.

Dresden
10-02-2017, 11:07
The one track that interests me is Mugello. I have heard it is in but haven't seen proof yet.

Schadows
10-02-2017, 11:44
I was so disappointed when it was eventually cut out from the 1st game u__u

breyzipp
10-02-2017, 12:14
Mugello is fantastic, one of my favourite circuits in Assetto. :)

I'll add Portimão tonight when back home.

Any confirmation yet on Hell? Or whatever that off-road circuit is?
Any more opinions on Sugo? That screen by screen comparison here in the replies is very convincing for me.

proterra1
10-02-2017, 12:38
(F) England - Glencairn ==> Full --- Full Reverse --- East --- East Reverse --- West --- West Reverse


I am fairly sure Glencairn is based in Scotland?

Konan
10-02-2017, 14:21
Talk of Interlagos...probably DLC...

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-general-discussion-thread.342814/page-37#post-11706227

shiftee
10-02-2017, 15:45
I love Pcars track diversity, I raced more new tracks in Pcars1 than I did in Forza 1-4 combined. but I really hope Sonoma Raceway was not cut, very fun track and visually amazing (especially at dusk and dawn).

if its a license issue, just change 2 turns and call it Schonoma...

breyzipp
11-02-2017, 09:40
I am fairly sure Glencairn is based in Scotland?

Is there a proof for that? And please don't say in-game country since Greenwood (= Spa karting circuit) is also under Ireland or something. :rolleyes: Not sure how I ended up putting it under England, I will change it though it it looks or feels more Scottisch but I'm no expert at that.

breyzipp
11-02-2017, 10:09
Proof for Hell, Norway as a Rallycross location.

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Bruno Alexandre
11-02-2017, 10:22
That's quite the detective work there.

breyzipp
11-02-2017, 10:29
That's quite the detective work there.

Well credits to whoever posted wherever I read it that it would be Hell. But since noone could confirm it I just searched Youtube for an onboard video and tried to find that exact same scenery. So I did the easy part, no way I detected from that short video fragment myself that it was Hell. :)

Anyway I updated the front page list with the following :

* added Sugo, Hell & Portimao
* added between braggets at the end if a location is karting, rallycross or ice.
* added my Unknown Location Counter (r) (tm) :p

breyzipp
11-02-2017, 13:55
Interlagos most likely making it into PC2 as a DLC, check the updated post (the reference links part)

<= overjoyed!

Ravager619
11-02-2017, 16:33
I would assume at least the tri-oval circuit and the sportscar circuit. They are both iconical track configurations, the first one for everything American with ovals, the second one for the 24h of Daytona with Prototypes and GTLM/GT3 racing.

I don't care so much for the motorcycle circuit but hey it's nice to have as well.

http://www.racingcircuits.info/north-america/usa/daytona.html#.WJ1xwDsrKUk

This would be great if we're getting the road course. I watched the Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona on TV a few weeks back and I really wanted to take some laps about two hours into the race.

Pisshead30
12-02-2017, 08:47
Proof for Hell, Norway as a Rallycross location.

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This old screenshot we saw about the web reminded me of the Hell track great to see it confirmed

breyzipp
12-02-2017, 08:50
Added real life on-board videos for Sugo, Hell and Portimão so those not familiar with the tracks can check out what a lap looks like. For 2 of the 3 videos I found one with a dynamic minimap overlay so you see where the car is on the minimap. For the third one I even got one with track/corner-comment. If you find better videos post the link and I will add them.

I want to do this for the other new-to-franchise locations as well, just a bit short on time atm. (been searching for one for Texas Motor Speedway with the road course + oval combined but couldn't find one fast.

Pisshead30
12-02-2017, 09:12
Cant wait to race Portimao always great to watch world superbikes on it finally its gonna be in a game. Love Hell after racing it loads in Dirt Rally

1185323118
12-02-2017, 21:45
Fuji is confirmed, there's a video that a YouTuber driving on Fuji in pCARS2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvlI-r2nlHc&t=147s

Schadows
12-02-2017, 23:17
Yes, that was already confirmed from all the videos from the "journalists" invited either on the sweden event, or local events in some countries where Fuji and Mercedes Ice Track was playable.

Azure Flare
13-02-2017, 02:46
Cant wait to race Portimao always great to watch world superbikes on it finally its gonna be in a game. Love Hell after racing it loads in Dirt Rally

rFactor 2 has it as official content.

Mad Al
13-02-2017, 08:58
rFactor 2 has it as official content.

I think the word "console" needed to be in the original.. ;)

wicken
13-02-2017, 16:06
Cant wait to race Portimao always great to watch world superbikes on it finally its gonna be in a game.
The track also appeared on Grid Autosport.

Schadows
13-02-2017, 19:09
It is also in raceroom albeit not a console game.

jimmyb_84
15-02-2017, 11:36
Think you can add Monza on to the list. See Ian reply in GTplanet Q&A thread

breyzipp
15-02-2017, 17:14
Think you can add Monza on to the list. See Ian reply in GTplanet Q&A thread

indeed I just saw that as well. :)

breyzipp
15-02-2017, 17:15
Would love to see Sebring, Road Atlanta, Mid Ohio, Mosport(CTMP), and Gilles Villeneuve make it in.

There is a wishlist thread already here, this is only for the confirmed tracks.

Konan
15-02-2017, 17:17
There is a wishlist thread already here, this is only for the confirmed tracks.

Fixed...

Remy1986
16-02-2017, 10:56
My bad. Thought I selected the right thread.

lottalava
25-02-2017, 19:41
What about norway atlantic ocean road?

breyzipp
26-02-2017, 07:55
What about norway atlantic ocean road?

The wishlist for tracks is a sticky post in the PC1 forum. :)

joelsantos24
27-02-2017, 17:05
So, no Austin-Texas GP, USA, or even Istanbul GP, Turkey? That's a shame.

Mahjik
27-02-2017, 17:10
So, no Austin-Texas GP, USA, or even Istanbul GP, Turkey? That's a shame.

It's still early. They have announced it will have over 60 tracks and I don't think we've seen even half of that yet.

Dakpilot
27-02-2017, 18:31
What is the last track (with NSX and Corvette) shown in the official release video, I guess that would be considered as "confirmed" and from an official source

Cheers Dakpilot

breyzipp
27-02-2017, 20:23
So, no Austin-Texas GP, USA, or even Istanbul GP, Turkey? That's a shame.

From the topic post: ;)


Unknown location counter: 60 total locations (notes below) - 41 known locations (list above) = 19 unknown locations

breyzipp
27-02-2017, 20:28
What is the last track (with NSX and Corvette) shown in the official release video, I guess that would be considered as "confirmed" and from an official source

Cheers Dakpilot

This is actually a really good question, below is the screenshot of it. I don't think this is from anything in the confirmed list yet. Could be from a street circuit or a fantasy circuit as well, I doubt this is a pure racing circuit.
Anyone has any clues what circuit that would be? Maybe the blue & white borders from the official trailer can be a hint? I don't know of any circuit that uses blue and white to be honest, 90% of course is red and white.

Judging from the leaked trailer I would even dare say that the top of the bridge is made of wooden panels, so perhaps the entire bridge is a wooden bridge.

Here is the pic :
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I bet this is from the same bridge as what we saw in the beginning of the leaked trailer :

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Schnizz58
27-02-2017, 20:47
My first thought was a street course with part of the track underneath an ell (e.g., Chicago).

breyzipp
27-02-2017, 21:06
My first thought was a street course with part of the track underneath an ell (e.g., Chicago).

Could be possible. Here is a pic to illustrate that thought. :)

http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/159d0408e3e24cf6b906d58a1d7511d9/metal-bridge-and-el-train-chicago-illinois-usa-dg1ygh.jpg


Since this bridge was the opening of the leaked trailer and the closing of the official trailer it is probably a track that means a lot to them, something their are proud of, something special, a landmark for PC2. Think about the Rio track for FM6 for example or the 12 apostles for FH3. :)

joelsantos24
27-02-2017, 21:14
From the topic post: ;)
That's good to know. On the other hand, it remains somewhat obscure if the term "locations" refers to actual tracks or simply alternate layouts of the existing one's.

Konan
27-02-2017, 21:20
Isn't another layout of an existing track the same location?

breyzipp
27-02-2017, 21:25
That's good to know. On the other hand, it remains somewhat obscure if the term "locations" refers to actual tracks or simply alternate layouts of the existing one's.

Those 60 locations are really locations. For example Dubai Autodrome counts as 1 location. Within that location you can have multiple configurations or layouts, for example the GP circuit, national circuit, international circuit, hill circuit (this was not in PC1 for Dubai I believe), or even the Kartdrome. Silverstone is another location where the GP circuit, historical circuit, national circuit, international circuit and stowe circuit are all the different configurations, all under 1 location. :)

Note that several locations only have 1 configuration though, for example Mount Panorama in Bathurst is 1 location but it also only has 1 layout as well.

Still pretty damn awesome that we will have 60+ locations. I believe PC1 "only" had 35 locations. Forza 6 was 28 locations or something and Assetto Corsa only about 12. (I posted the exact numbers in one of the long GTPlanet Q&A threads).

Rest asured, PC2 will simply rock in terms of locations. Hands down BY FAR the best out there for consoles (except maybe GT6's track editor if you want to count in previous gen consoles and user created content) and on PC only rivaled by iRacing and those games where user created tracks are possible (e.g. PC version of Assetto Corsa).

Just checked my spreadsheet. PC1 had different 35 locations and 101 total track layouts. I think with PC2 we will go towards 150 different layouts then if not more.

For more info, check out my spreadsheet from my signature. :) It's currently WIP since I'm adding all Dirt Rally stages and circuits which takes quite some time to look up all the real life counterparts of the stages.
The column "circuit name" is the location and the colum"track configuration" is the layout.

DinoM
28-02-2017, 13:09
I hope licensed Mugello and Suzuka will be there to offer. :rolleyes:

Schadows
28-02-2017, 15:01
Suzuka has already been confirmed as not being included as far as I know (they ask way to much for the license based on what Ian said over the GTP thread).
I'd really want to see the Mugello come back to pcars. It was one of my favorite tracks during development.

breyzipp
28-02-2017, 19:56
Suzuka has already been confirmed as not being included as far as I know (they ask way to much for the license based on what Ian said over the GTP thread).
I'd really want to see the Mugello come back to pcars. It was one of my favorite tracks during development.

Yes I read those comments from Ian as well. The way I read that was that unless Suzuka drops their asking price, SMS will stick to their Sakitto track. So maybe those guys at Suzuka still have some time to change their mind. ;)

Personally, and I really mean personally, I don't care at all. I never liked Suzuka much as a track anyway. SMS did fine with Sakitto and there are some elements I even like more than Suzuka (mainly the scenery like the lake and the mountain, but also some of the differences at the back of the track after crossing under the bridge) but there are several things I dislike about it as well (the aweful pit entry on the GP circuit and one of the smaller track configurations is not not fun at all).

Give me the new gems like Portimão and Sugo over a licenced Suzuka ANY day, those circuits look like really fun! Someone also linked Rudskogen (Norway) in the in the GT Planet thread, I never heard of it before but I am now officially in love with this track. :) I hope that one will come in as well, it's even 1 step higher on my wish list than Interlagos. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSwWfZRgrjw
http://www.kmsracingengines.com/bestanden/producten/212/Rudskogen%20track.jpg

breyzipp
28-02-2017, 20:17
I found a much better real life onboard video with track overlay for Portimão. Updated the topic post, enjoy! :D

Schnizz58
28-02-2017, 21:12
Rudskogen

Looks like Oschersleben and Suzuka had a baby.

breyzipp
28-02-2017, 22:42
Looks like Oschersleben and Suzuka had a baby in the green hell.

I made a small correction there. ;)

Schadows
28-02-2017, 22:55
Give me the new gems like Portimão and Sugo over a licenced Suzuka ANY dayWell, you will be happy then ^^

Personally, I really like Suzuka. It's one of those old school tracks like spa, with different flows in it (Sakitto is more coherent, but also more monotone to my taste).

cxMilk
28-02-2017, 23:09
Rudskogen Looks like Oschersleben and Suzuka had a baby.
Thank goodness track direction dictates T1 and T13 are more akin to Oschersleben's T1 instead of Snetterton's Murrays, otherwise that track looks like it'd be hell. One Murrays is enough. Two is just cruel for the sake of being cruel.

Schnizz58
28-02-2017, 23:12
Thank goodness track direction dictates T1 and T13 are more akin to Oschersleben's T1 instead of Snetterton's Murrays, otherwise that track looks like it'd be hell. One Murrays is enough. Two is just cruel for the sake of being cruel.
Damn, I didn't think of that. You're absolutely right.

breyzipp
01-03-2017, 20:55
Some more info about the Mercedes ice track. Source : http://www.projectcarsgame.com/newspc2/ice-drifting-under-the-northern-lights-its-coming-with-project-cars-2


Nic Hamilton notes that the circuit, from last year to this, had not changed at all with the exception of some snowbanks and the actual width of the track. ‘You have a pitlane and the different configurations, and then you have the dynamic circle tracks where you learn to control the car—or, you know, go do donuts! That’s in the game, as is the dynamic area where you learn to slalom and slide-and-catch techniques. The various tracks aren’t high-speed at all, but they combine all the tracks to make one massive circuit, and that is really quick.’


Project CARS 2 will come with all six configurations of the ice track, including the combined circuit and the skid-pads. The tracks will also feature LiveTrack 3.0, so rain, snow, fog, mist and, more importantly, those snow-pockets off-line, will all change the grip and nature of the tracks. On top of that, every car in Project CARS 2 will come with the option of having studded ice-tyres—so that dream you had, about driving an 800bhp rear wheel drive car on an ice track? It’s about to become your nightmare for real.

Rambo_Commando
05-03-2017, 03:00
Just out of curiosity, are you able to drive the ice track only during certain months in the game?

Roger Prynne
05-03-2017, 10:17
^ You can drive anything at any time.

hkraft300
05-03-2017, 10:49
Does the ice lake melt in summer?
SMS trolls their customers lol

Tank621
05-03-2017, 11:26
Does the ice lake melt in summer?
SMS trolls their customers lol
Maybe we're getting amphibious cars. Perhaps a Toyboata, Nissank or even a VW Dampervan Haha

breyzipp
05-03-2017, 15:26
Just out of curiosity, are you able to drive the ice track only during certain months in the game?

It's been said by Ian that the ice track is only for winter when there is snow. Also, Dubai has been brought up as an example of a track that won't see snow.

I believe in general most tracks will be able to have most weather combinations but there will be some obvious exceptions.

Schadows
05-03-2017, 19:36
Surely, each track should have it's own weather probability depending on the season (almost no chance to have rain in dubai during summer, or almost no chance to have sunny day in england during the all year ;p).
Running in the winter in dubai should give you the typical dubai winter weather ... which probably isn't snow ... just cold.

I don't know if the ice track is "iced" all year long, but in case it is not, you will probably be able to chose between a few months only.

breyzipp
05-03-2017, 21:21
I don't know if the ice track is "iced" all year long

When I Google for "Sweden Sorsele lake" I see a lot of lush water photos so it doesn't seem to be perma-frozen. :)

TheBadBoyRay
06-03-2017, 04:38
Great to see Long Beach included

Konan
06-03-2017, 09:09
Maybe we're getting amphibious cars. Perhaps a Toyboata, Nissank or even a VW Dampervan Haha


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Grijo
06-03-2017, 14:46
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The Lotus Esprit will be a "Road D" option. Another models:

Rinspeed Splash - Road B

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Amphicar - Vintage Road Car

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RacingAtHome
06-03-2017, 16:13
The Lotus Esprit will be a "Road D" option. Another models:

Rinspeed Splash - Road B

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Amphicar - Vintage Road Car

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I thought they'd all be Road C. (Sea)

Grijo
06-03-2017, 16:17
I thought they'd all be Road C. (Sea)

Don´t need to get your coat, I will get for you :p

Konan
06-03-2017, 16:19
Don´t need to get your coat, I will get for you :p

You mean scuba gear right? :p

Grijo
06-03-2017, 16:24
You mean scuba gear right? :p

For the Lotus Esprit you don´t need that...maybe a suit :p

(Grabbing my scuba gear and diving very deep)

FS7
06-03-2017, 18:11
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The Lotus Esprit will be a "Road D" option. Another models:

Rinspeed Splash - Road B

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Amphicar - Vintage Road Car

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Which class would these 2 fit in?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfEYry7-jww


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yn2uyQJ1jc

Konan
06-03-2017, 18:27
Redbull air race...

Spitfire_88
09-03-2017, 23:26
What about Red Bull Ring? and other tracks canceled in PCars 1?

RacingAtHome
09-03-2017, 23:48
What about Red Bull Ring? and other tracks canceled in PCars 1?

We won't know.

breyzipp
10-03-2017, 07:00
Which tracks were all cancelled for PCARS1? I might add those to the topic post as a separate section as well since they probably have a good chance to make it into PCARS2 since development work has already been (partially) done on it.

The only one I know about myself is Historical Spa. I wasn't following development of PCARS 1 much back in the days and saw that classic Lotus race on YouTube on historical Spa, that was actually always in the back of my mind and one of the reasons I bought PCARS 1. Was sad to find out it wasn't in but on the other side really impressed with the big amount of new tracks I never raced on before. :)

Schadows
10-03-2017, 09:05
I don't remember Redbull Ring being planned, but they had some tracks build then cancelled/not released like ovals (Charlotte, Daytona, Dover, Indianapolis, Richmond), Mugello, Suzuka or even Leipzieg (shown in a WIP pic at some point before having to cancel it for legal reasons I presume).

RacingAtHome
10-03-2017, 11:28
I don't remember Redbull Ring being planned, but they had some tracks build then cancelled/not released like ovals (Charlotte, Daytona, Dover, Indianapolis, Richmond), Mugello, Suzuka or even Leipzieg (shown in a WIP pic at some point before having to cancel it for legal reasons I presume).

I think Bristol was cancelled for Ovals too.

Tank621
10-03-2017, 14:17
What about Red Bull Ring? and other tracks canceled in PCars 1?

Did you say 'Red Bull Ring'? because this picture has a familiar looking background
I'm not saying it is but I've had a look and there are too many parellels between this pic and the real thing to be ignored
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cxMilk
10-03-2017, 18:40
I don't remember Redbull Ring being planned, but they had some tracks build then cancelled/not released like ovals (Charlotte, Daytona, Dover, Indianapolis, Richmond), Mugello, Suzuka or even Leipzieg (shown in a WIP pic at some point before having to cancel it for legal reasons I presume).
I remember watching some alpha builds of Solitude on YouTube - essentially a strip of tarmac floating in the sky. Recall there being a lot of information gathering that went into that track for PC1 by some WMD members, so here's hoping SMS continued to work away at it over the past few years.

Tank621
20-03-2017, 20:00
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breyzipp
20-03-2017, 20:51
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Thanks! Added it to the list, found an on board lap from Vettel (Red Bull in 2012) with a map overlay and deducted 1 from my unknown circuit counter. :)

I already know this track very well from FM6 but still it's so great to see it in PCARS 2 as well. :) I'm not much a fan of the most popular American tracks but for this one (full), Watkins Glenn (full) and Daytona (sportcar circuit) I gladly make an exception. :)

Schnizz58
20-03-2017, 21:42
Great addition! I've been pretty unimpressed with the NA tracks announced so far but this one is very nice. I haven't driven it in any other game so I'm really looking forward to it.

breyzipp
20-03-2017, 21:51
Great addition! I've been pretty unimpressed with the NA tracks announced so far but this one is very nice. I haven't driven it in any other game so I'm really looking forward to it.

You'll be up for some fun times then! From my FM6 experience: Turn 1 is always a bit tricky due to the combination of a blind corner and uphill braking zone. Next up are the esses, amazingly fun in the right car with the right setup and IMO much more fun than the esses from Silverstone or any other circuit. After the esses you have the approach towards the far away corner which is a slight lefthand corner you take allout, very fun as well and it feels fast and vicious. Then the hairpin and the long back straight and what then follows is a technical part that is IMO hard to master until you get to the very wide right hand corner where it is fun again to take the last 2 corners and go back to the start/finish. :) Most fun for me are hands down the esses, least fun is the technical part after the long back straight.

This is really a great circuit that has anything a circuit should have (esses, a long straight, elevation differences, a hairpin, a technical part, ...). The only downside I can think about is that the alternative layouts are not that much fun (same with Yas Marina IMO), you will always want to drive the full layout.

ryandtw
21-03-2017, 05:28
COTA here we come!!! Maybe Sebring and Road Atlanta next for NAEC tracks? Hmm...

breyzipp
21-03-2017, 05:56
Aah yes, Road Atlanta is another fun American track. But I really find Laguna Seca, Long Beach, Indianapolis, Road America and indeed, Sebring quite boring. :)

Schadows
21-03-2017, 09:16
The USA is quite loved in this game : California Highway (ok it's fictive but still), Willow Springs, Road America, Watkins Glen, Long beach, Daytona, Laguna Seca, and now COTA (where should this track be in the official list on the website ^^). I also wonder if Sonoma / Infineon Raceway will come back in PC2.

I suppose lots of the remaining "slots" will be taken by Ovals and Rallycross tracks, but lots of them left.

Schnizz58
21-03-2017, 14:57
The USA is quite loved in this game : California Highway (ok it's fictive but still), Willow Springs, Road America, Watkins Glen, Long beach, Daytona, Laguna Seca, and now COTA (where should this track be in the official list on the website ^^).
I'd have been much more interested in some of the lesser-known tracks like VIR, Barber and Mid-Ohio than Long Beach and the ovals. They're the US equivalent of tracks like Oulton Park and Donington. But I guess you can't have everything....where would you put it?


I also wonder if Sonoma / Infineon Raceway will come back in PC2.
I sure hope so. Trading Sears Point for Long Beach would be a step backwards.

Schadows
21-03-2017, 16:14
I've never raced (even virtually) on Long Beach, but I've heard good things from it, so i'm eager to try it.
Not interested either in ovals (but I know lots of people love them), but with COTA, Laguna Seca and Road America, i'm already ont the starting line ^^

breyzipp
21-03-2017, 16:33
I've raced Long Beach plenty in FM5/FM6 and I think also in RR3. It's a mediocre track at best if you ask me but then I'm not much a fan of street circuits either.

Big fan of VIR and all it's layouts as well! Never knew the track until it came to FM6, I like it a lot!

And in general I like the lesser popular tracks a lot more than the overused tracks as well. Give me something like Rudskogen over Suzuka any day!

And another vote for ovals being boring from me. :)

Schnizz58
21-03-2017, 19:23
If you like VIR you'll love Barber. MOSPORT would be another great one.

Long Beach in my opinion is straight busted. I know a lot of people like that track but for the life of me I have no idea why. First of all it's a street circuit, so that's strike one. Second, it's got this long straight that goes into a tight left-hander with no place to bail out. The results are predictable. Then the whole back section is a concrete canyon that culminates in a 1st gear hairpin serving no purpose that I can think of. But at least it's not an oval.

breyzipp
21-03-2017, 20:06
If you like VIR you'll love Barber. MOSPORT would be another great one.

Never heard of those so that's probably good as I like the (at least for me) lesser known tracks. :)

Also if I like a track or not depends on a lot of things. The circuit layout and driving fluidity is one thing but also the environment does a lot for me. Like Spa Francorchamps is probably my number one all-time favorite circuit since it has a very nice layout but it's also a very nice natural location in the Belgian Ardennes forest. Sometimes even lighting has a positive effect, for example in GT6 I really like Willow Springs as well, the circuit itself is kinda crap but you had some really nice lighting effects there by sunset. :)

Monza I like for it's simplicity and high speeds (of course in the proper car).
Le Mans I like a LOT but mostly because it's my number one favorite race in real life, the track itself if you think about it is kinda crap as well. :) The Nordschleife I *should* like a lot because it's also in nature but for my personal taste that track is just too long.
I actually like Yas Marina (FM6) and Dubai (PC1) a lot as well but both also for the setting, Yas Marina with it's great light effects at the hotel at night and Dubai for it's desert theme.

VIR I like mostly for the grass scenery, kinda feels like racing on a golf terrain. :) But the layout (FM6) is fine too, especially those Grand East and Grand West courses.

Hockenheim is another one of my big favorites, I think this is really one of the few circuits I like a lot purely for the track layout and lesser for the location. Classic Hockenheim is awesome as well in PCARS1.

And talking about classics, Rouen Les Essarts has a special place in my heart as well, the fact that the track and tribunes are now completely gone and the only thing left is mostly public roads has a special feeling as well, as if you can revive history and relive it all over again.

Ooh and that's another thing, liking a track or not has a lot to do with the cars you drive on it too. Take the Classic Lotusses (Lotussi? Loti?) in PCARS 1 for example. Those cars make a lot of sense on the tracks from their days: long straights, wide corners, high speeds like classic monza, classic spa, classic hockenheim, rouen, classic silverstone etc. If you try to trackle a modern circuit with those F1 chicanes in it, it just makes no sense. Those cars are not made to race on those circuits. But step into a modern GT3 or open wheeler and those classic circuits are boring since you hit the limiter more than not. You need those sharper corners and chicanes with heavy braking zones and high downforce corners to bring the best out of those cars.



edit - just watched a lap from Barber, indeed a great track at first sight! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY62_sZOdVc
Reminds me a bit about Portimao but a bit more windy. This video is with an indycar (i think) but it seems to be a bit fast for what the track offers. I think this would be a great circuit for GT4 & GT3 to be honest. But seriously love the layout, I like a bit of elevation change in a circuit a lot as well. :)

Schnizz58
21-03-2017, 20:28
Ooh and that's another thing, liking a track or not has a lot to do with the cars you drive on it too. Take the Classic Lotusses (Lotussi? Loti?) in PCARS 1 for example. Those cars make a lot of sense on the tracks from their days: long straights, wide corners, high speeds like classic monza, classic spa, classic hockenheim, rouen, classic silverstone etc. If you try to trackle a modern circuit with those F1 chicanes in it, it just makes no sense. Those cars are not made to race on those circuits. But step into a modern GT3 or open wheeler and those classic circuits are boring since you hit the limiter more than not. You need those sharper corners and chicanes with heavy braking zones and high downforce corners to bring the best out of those cars.
Yeah absolutely. That was one of the reasons given for not releasing the historic Spa circuit. The Masta Kink was pucker-inducing in a 60's era F1 car but in a modern car with huge squishy tires, you hardly notice it.




edit - just watched a lap from Barber, indeed a great track at first sight! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY62_sZOdVc
Reminds me a bit about Portimao but a bit more windy. This video is with an indycar (i think) but it seems to be a bit fast for what the track offers. I think this would be a great circuit for GT4 & GT3 to be honest. But seriously love the layout, I like a bit of elevation change in a circuit a lot as well. :)
They do race IndyCar at Barber (in fact towards the end of next month) but you're right that GT cars are a better fit for it. I was thinking that it was on either the Pirelli World Challenge or IMSA calendar but I don't see it this year. [ETA: I just checked and it was on the schedule for PWC last year but not this year for some reason.]

Here's a lap at Mosport


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbTs0zoeXKA

breyzipp
22-03-2017, 18:37
Of all the new-to-franchise circuits confirmed so far which are your 3 favorite ones?



choose from:

Japan - Fuji Speedway
Japan - Sugo
Norway - Hell
Portugal - Autódromo Internacional do Algarve @ Portimão
Sweden - Mercedes-Benz Onroad Winter Training
USA - Circuit of the Americas
USA - Daytona International Speedway
USA - Indianapolis
USA - Texas Motor Speedway
USA - Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach



my top 3 from that:

1. Portimão
2. Sugo
3. Circuit of the Americas

Schadows
22-03-2017, 19:33
1. Portimão
2. Portimão
3. Portimão

Tank621
22-03-2017, 19:37
I think just saying 'I wanna go fast' answers that question

breyzipp
22-03-2017, 20:04
I think just saying 'I wanna go fast' answers that question

No because that would mean I have to prefer the boring ovals the most. :(

Tank621
22-03-2017, 20:17
No because that would mean I have to prefer the boring ovals the most. :(

You won't say that when you're 3 wide at Daytona being bump drafted at 200mph

That being said these road courses are gonna be a hell of alot of fun too

breyzipp
22-03-2017, 22:14
You won't say that when you're 3 wide at Daytona being bump drafted at 200mph

That being said these road courses are gonna be a hell of alot of fun too

I agree the Daytona road coarse has some charm to it but ovals are still boring. :) The Daytona sportscar circuit is all you need to have some of that 3 wide action going. :) Don't get me wrong I do get the charm of that high banking speed bumper to bumper but I much rather see that mixed in with the road course with it's chicane, corners and heavy braking turn 1 instead of just going high speed constantly.

RacingAtHome
22-03-2017, 23:04
I agree the Daytona road coarse has some charm to it but ovals are still boring. :) The Daytona sportscar circuit is all you need to have some of that 3 wide action going. :) Don't get me wrong I do get the charm of that high banking speed bumper to bumper but I much rather see that mixed in with the road course with it's chicane, corners and heavy braking turn 1 instead of just going high speed constantly.

Clearly never watched oval racing then. :P I've never raced it but it's great to watch and can't wait. (In IndyCar)

breyzipp
22-03-2017, 23:15
Clearly never watched oval racing then. :P I've never raced it but it's great to watch and can't wait. (In IndyCar)

I watched 2016's Daytona 500 (entire race) to see what the fuss was all about. Compared to for example 2016's Le Mans or 2017's 12h of Bathurst it's not even remotely close to the excitement of that race. And yes I know it was a supposedly thriller ending with cars 1 and 2 within a fraction of a second from each other.

Before people further try to convince me how "awesome" oval racing is I strongly suggest to not waste any more effort on that. :)

Konan
23-03-2017, 03:24
Before people further try to convince me how "awesome" oval racing is I strongly suggest to not waste any more effort on that. :)

It was you that opened the can of worms though...:cool:

Ps:reading some of your last posts it seems there are rather a lot of tracks you find boring...:p

hkraft300
23-03-2017, 05:28
... just going high speed constantly.

There are some left turns involved. Difficult you know, turning slightly left when you're going so fast. :p

Konan
23-03-2017, 05:34
There are some left turns involved. Difficult you know, turning slightly left when you're going so fast. :p

Well...i've very recently learned that (when done right) there is much more to oval racing than what most people think...you might be surprised at how challenging some of those ovals will be to actually race on yourself...

breyzipp
23-03-2017, 05:51
It was you that opened the can of worms though...:cool:

Ps:reading some of your last posts it seems there are rather a lot of American tracks you find boring...:p

Corrected that for you. :)


Well...i've very recently learned that (when done right) there is much more to oval racing than what most people think...you might be surprised at how challenging some of those ovals will be to actually race on yourself...

Well I have no doubt in my mind that it's very thrilling and exciting in real life, but so is racing on normal circuits. As far as video games and sims go, not my cup of tea for sure. Like I said, I like the high banking on Daytona for the Sportscar Circuit (video game) but that is mainly for that awesome braking into turn 1. :)

Konan
23-03-2017, 06:22
...my comment was actually about "in game"...
In Pcars2 those ovals along with the AI will come as close as possible to real life so there won't be much difference except maybe the fact that you can't "feel" the bumps in the game as you would IRL...
I was never much of an oval fan either (wouldn't mind them though) but reading about some of the comments of the experts at hand changed my view entirely...
Maybe i can't convince you otherwise but i'm sure the content will do the convincing for me on release...:p

hkraft300
23-03-2017, 06:42
Konan you need to take my oval trolling more seriously.

Konan
23-03-2017, 07:41
Konan you need to take my oval trolling more seriously.

"Konan" and "seriously" don't belong in the same sentence....:cool:

Bealdor
23-03-2017, 08:08
"Konan" and "seriously" don't belong in the same sentence....:cool:

I don't know what you're talking about buddy.

"Konan is seriously crazy/mad/annoying.", looks totally fine to me...

:p

Konan
23-03-2017, 08:18
looks totally fine to me...:p

...i've read somewhere that eels have very bad eyesight and judgement skills though...they just have a go at anything that moves...:p ;)

hkraft300
23-03-2017, 13:01
...i've read somewhere that eels have very bad eyesight and judgement skills though...they just have a go at anything that moves...:p ;)

Any hole is a goal.

Grijo
23-03-2017, 15:08
Any hole is a goal.

Can I get your coat? I just want to help :p

RacingAtHome
23-03-2017, 15:12
Any hole is a goal.

The single life objective. ;)

F1_Racer68
24-03-2017, 02:20
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BR_9dCWD_fK/?taken-by=projectcarsgame (https://www.instagram.com/p/BR_9dCWD_fK/?taken-by=projectcarsgame)

Imola confirmed

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Ignore the colors.... look at the roof lines across the track.

breyzipp
24-03-2017, 23:02
Wow amazing you recognize Imola from those roof lines. :)

It was already on the list though.

F1_Racer68
25-03-2017, 01:38
Just confirms that it is back.

As for recognizing it..... Well...... It took a lot of Google searches......

It was one of those "I know where that is! Where the heck is that?!" moments..... :D

Tank621
11-04-2017, 15:51
New rally cross tracks have been announced:-
'all ready to do battle on scanned real-world rallycross tracks including US-based DirtFish, and Daytona, the iconic ‘Hell’ at Lånkebanen in Norway, and the rallycross tracks at Hockenheim, Knockhill, Loheac-Bretagna, and, of course, the track where it all began half-a-century ago—Lydden Hill in the UK.'

evanzo7
11-04-2017, 22:52
Knockhill, happy days!! :D
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breyzipp
11-04-2017, 23:24
New rally cross tracks have been announced:-
'all ready to do battle on scanned real-world rallycross tracks including US-based DirtFish, and Daytona, the iconic ‘Hell’ at Lånkebanen in Norway, and the rallycross tracks at Hockenheim, Knockhill, Loheac-Bretagna, and, of course, the track where it all began half-a-century ago—Lydden Hill in the UK.'

Great! Will have to update that tomorrow though, bed time. :D

breyzipp
12-04-2017, 20:27
Great! Will have to update that tomorrow though, bed time. :D

Ok I will update this as soon as possible but I've been extremely busy this evening so no time to dig through it now and do a proper update with some on-board videos etc. I'll try to update it Thursday or Friday evening, should be completed by the end of the weekend for sure.

It's on my todo list for sure so I will not forget it. ;) Here is a quick teaser :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX1oblhV1pE

IceShaft
13-04-2017, 13:02
From the same preview video Red Bull Ring confirmed!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pvX9OuvtrU

RacingAtHome
13-04-2017, 13:37
From the same preview video Red Bull Ring confirmed!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pvX9OuvtrU

Red Bull Ring was confirmed ages ago unofficially when we spotted it in the first Jaguar post.

IceShaft
13-04-2017, 14:46
I don't see it on the list in this thread so I thought it was still not 100% sure.

breyzipp
13-04-2017, 14:54
I don't see it on the list in this thread so I thought it was still not 100% sure.

And you did well, now it's confirmed from an official source, thanks! I will add it to the list soon, been really busy the last few evenings.

Stewy32
13-04-2017, 17:37
Red Bull Ring confirmed.

Konan
13-04-2017, 17:39
Red Bull Ring confirmed.

Ninja'd by a mile mate...:p

breyzipp
13-04-2017, 20:42
Ok I added all the new RX tracks as well as the Red Bull Ring to the topic post.

Gotta love how that red color starts to dominate the topic post. ^^

F1_Racer68
13-04-2017, 20:51
Ninja'd by a mile mate...:p

By about 3 weeks? Was already "confirmed" with the first Jaguar photo.

cxMilk
15-04-2017, 21:14
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I could've sworn I saw over on the GT Planet thread that The_American confirmed Sakitto being nixed. Skimmed through the thread yesterday and couldn't find it. Likely skipped over it, or...I just made it up?

RacingAtHome
15-04-2017, 21:17
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I could've sworn I saw over on the GT Planet thread that The_American confirmed Sakitto being nixed. Skimmed through the thread yesterday and couldn't find it. Likely skipped over it, or...I just made it up?

I had a search and I think you've made it up.

F1_Racer68
15-04-2017, 22:15
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I could've sworn I saw over on the GT Planet thread that The_American confirmed Sakitto being nixed. Skimmed through the thread yesterday and couldn't find it. Likely skipped over it, or...I just made it up?

In fact, Ian Bell essentially confirmed that Sakitto would be in for sure as the licensing cost for Suzuka is atrociously high (although they are continuing to negotiate).

cxMilk
15-04-2017, 23:15
In fact, Ian Bell essentially confirmed that Sakitto would be in for sure as the licensing cost for Suzuka is atrociously high (although they are continuing to negotiate).
Yea, I knew about the Suzuka costs. Had another quick looksie, and it seems I misread some stuff on there when I read it a good while back. Carry on then.

F1_Racer68
15-04-2017, 23:39
Yea, I knew about the Suzuka costs. Had another quick looksie, and it seems I misread some stuff on there when I read it a good while back. Carry on then.

Copy that. Carrying on. :)

Konan
16-04-2017, 05:15
...Roger...:p

hkraft300
16-04-2017, 07:00
10-4.

Tank621
16-04-2017, 07:32
Affirmative

Roger Prynne
16-04-2017, 09:49
...Roger...:p

What?

Konan
16-04-2017, 09:58
Now how did i know you were going to react to that? :p

F1_Racer68
16-04-2017, 14:01
Ok... I'm going there now......

"We have clearance Clarence. Roger Roger. What's our vector Victor?"

:D :D

Azure Flare
16-04-2017, 19:35
https://m.popkey.co/c0295c/8qwR0.gif

dault3883
17-04-2017, 15:00
i wonder if they will have road atlanta one thing i have noticed about project cars is the lack of american tracks thankfully PCars 2 has rectified that some but there is always room for improvement

Schnizz58
17-04-2017, 15:20
i wonder if they will have road atlanta one thing i have noticed about project cars is the lack of american tracks thankfully PCars 2 has rectified that some but there is always room for improvement
I'd love to see Road Atlanta but I'm not holding my breath. I think SMS felt like they had to include a bunch of ovals to make up for not having them in PC1. So it appears that most of the new North American tracks are super speedways. They did include COTA though so I'll give them credit for that. Hopefully there will be a New World DLC pack that contains stuff like Road Atlanta, Barber, VIR and/or Mosport.

dault3883
17-04-2017, 15:37
I'd love to see Road Atlanta but I'm not holding my breath. I think SMS felt like they had to include a bunch of ovals to make up for not having them in PC1. So it appears that most of the new North American tracks are super speedways. They did include COTA though so I'll give them credit for that. Hopefully there will be a New World DLC pack that contains stuff like Road Atlanta, Barber, VIR and/or Mosport.

From what iv scene on the vids for pc2 daytona includes the road course so that is a plus

Schnizz58
17-04-2017, 15:58
From what iv scene on the vids for pc2 daytona includes the road course so that is a plus
I'm trying not to look a gift track in the mouth but the 24hr Daytona course doesn't really thrill me. Woooo...a couple of infield turns and a bus stop chicane. I may feel differently once I try it.

dault3883
17-04-2017, 16:17
I'm trying not to look a gift track in the mouth but the 24hr Daytona course doesn't really thrill me. Woooo...a couple of infield turns and a bus stop chicane. I may feel differently once I try it.

i really want to try it other than Iracing no other game to my knowledge other than maybe forza has ever had it on it

FS7
17-04-2017, 17:03
one thing i have noticed about project cars is the lack of american tracks
???

PCars1 had 5 American real track locations iirc, and there's more coming in PCars2.
Personally I think it would be nice to include tracks from continents such as South America & Africa, maybe a couple more Asian locations.

RacingAtHome
17-04-2017, 17:11
???

PCars1 had 5 American real track locations iirc, and there's more coming in PCars2.
Personally I think it would be nice to include tracks from continents such as South America & Africa, maybe a couple more Asian locations.

Outside Kyalami and Marrakesh, i'm not really sure what you'd put in Africa.

breyzipp
17-04-2017, 17:12
???

PCars1 had 5 American real track locations iirc, and there's more coming in PCars2.
Personally I think it would be nice to include tracks from continents such as South America & Africa, maybe a couple more Asian locations.

And Middle Eastern! I'm from Belgium myself but for I-don't-know-what-reason I really like those desert tracks. We already have Dubai which is a sweet location (also because of the Hancook 24H), would be great to have Bahrain and Yas Marina in too.

But indeed, the lack of American tracks will surely be fixed in PC2.

RacingAtHome
17-04-2017, 17:21
yes there were 5 american tracks but how many european tracks were there european tracks are great but im an american i would love to race on tracks from my home country that i know and love too yes there are american but they droop in comparison to the aresenal of the euro tracks id love to see the canadian track circuit gil vilneuve too

I think you replied to the wrong message.

dault3883
17-04-2017, 17:24
I think you replied to the wrong message.

sorry i thought it would include his too

dault3883
17-04-2017, 17:25
???

PCars1 had 5 American real track locations iirc, and there's more coming in PCars2.
Personally I think it would be nice to include tracks from continents such as South America & Africa, maybe a couple more Asian locations.

yes there were 5 american tracks but how many european tracks were there european tracks are great but im an american i would love to race on tracks from my home country that i know and love too yes there are american but they droop in comparison to the aresenal of the euro tracks id love to see the canadian track circuit gil vilneuve too

Konan
17-04-2017, 17:43
yes there were 5 american tracks but how many european tracks were there european tracks are great but im an american i would love to race on tracks from my home country that i know and love too yes there are american but they droop in comparison to the aresenal of the euro tracks id love to see the canadian track circuit gil vilneuve too

Jeeezz...that is one long sentence...:rolleyes:completely out off breath reading that one...LOL

dault3883
17-04-2017, 18:06
Jeeezz...that is one long sentence...:rolleyes:completely out off breath reading that one...LOL

sorry english despite being my first language was never my best subject. i rarely spell correctly, and if not for the red lines under neath i would be in serious trouble. Add to the fact i love to talk and am long winded, and well u get the gist. im super excited for pc2, and really just started pc1. im hooked like i was when i first played Gran turismo 2 when i was a wee 12 year old. i hope to be a positive part of this forum. is it alright if i send private messages to you if i have any questions just so i can have a friendly face to turn to when i have said questions?

Konan
17-04-2017, 18:11
Yep..no worries...just don't expect that i can/may answer anything you ask...

Tank621
17-04-2017, 18:30
Aw Konan you've made a new friend

FS7
17-04-2017, 18:49
yes there were 5 american tracks but how many european tracks were there european tracks are great but im an american i would love to race on tracks from my home country that i know and love too yes there are american but they droop in comparison to the aresenal of the euro tracks id love to see the canadian track circuit gil vilneuve too
I'm all for having top US tracks in the game, I just thought it was odd to complain about PCars1's supposed "lack of American tracks" when in fact it had a pretty good number of US tracks compared to other racing games, and it will add even more in PCars2.
As for European tracks, there's a lot of tracks in Europe and a bunch of racing series over there, so it's natural to have more European tracks. Interesting enough 2 of the most used tracks in Europe haven't been mentioned yet: Paul Ricard & Hungaroring.

Konan
17-04-2017, 18:53
Aw Konan you've made a new friend

Everyone over here is my friend...until proven otherwise ;)

Mahjik
17-04-2017, 19:10
yes there were 5 american tracks but how many european tracks were there european tracks are great but im an american i would love to race on tracks from my home country that i know and love too yes there are american but they droop in comparison to the aresenal of the euro tracks id love to see the canadian track circuit gil vilneuve too

Well, given SMS is a UK based company, it's likely easier to get European tracks (as well as their relationships with the European tracks from the GTR/GTR2 days). This is just a guess on my part, but I think a lot of the North American tracks are playing hardball (due to iRacing). I would like to see a few more North American tracks myself, but I'm quite pleased with the diversity that is offered already in pCARS1.

Tank621
17-04-2017, 19:11
I'm really eagerly waiting for some classic track annoncements, it would be good to see some classics outside of Europe perhaps

VelvetTorpedo
17-04-2017, 19:52
I have my fingers crossed (but not holding my breath) for pre-chicane Mulsanne Straight Circuit de la Sarthe for the Group C cars.

speakers up!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB4zq6Jafkc

wicken
17-04-2017, 21:44
@breyzipp You have to teach me where you learnt of the term "Australasia" ;)

breyzipp
17-04-2017, 22:39
@breyzipp You have to teach me where you learnt of the term "Australasia" ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australasia

My main site for all my teachings. :P

If you know of a better way to group Mount Panorama and Ruapuna let me know. :P

wicken
17-04-2017, 22:41
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australasia

My main site for all my teachings. :P

My teacher always told me not to trust wikipedia though :(
But if you say it exists, I believe you.

breyzipp
17-04-2017, 22:47
I have my fingers crossed (but not holding my breath) for pre-chicane Mulsanne Straight Circuit de la Sarthe for the Group C cars.

speakers up!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB4zq6Jafkc

Wasn't classic Monza and classic Le Mans leaked a while ago?

Konan
17-04-2017, 22:48
My teacher always told me not to trust wikipedia though :(
But if you say it exists, I believe you.


Never doubt a guy from Belgium...:p

dault3883
17-04-2017, 22:50
Konan u know there releasing all these tracks they are going to have in the game but what i really would like to know is a release date but so far all i can get out of them on facebook is late 2017 LOL not very specific

F1_Racer68
17-04-2017, 23:05
i really want to try it other than Iracing no other game to my knowledge other than maybe forza has ever had it on it

GT series has it as well. It's actually a pretty common track for most multi genre racing sims/games. It's not a difficult track, but it is a challenging one and a lot of fun (even after 24 hours of racing it). The entry into turn 1 is particularly challenging due to the high entry speed, changing camber as you come off the tri-oval banking and tightening nature of the turn. It's relatively easy to learn and drive, but difficult to be truly fast on it.

F1_Racer68
17-04-2017, 23:07
Wasn't classic Monza and classic Le Mans leaked a while ago?

No, they have not been leaked. We know they were planned for pcars1 and speculation is that Spa and Monza won't be confirmed until the classic versions can also be confirmed. But again, that is just the prevailing conspiracy theory.

Konan
18-04-2017, 03:14
Konan u know there releasing all these tracks they are going to have in the game but what i really would like to know is a release date but so far all i can get out of them on facebook is late 2017 LOL not very specific

"Septemberish" is the last known "prediction" but nothing written in stone yet...

Ravager619
18-04-2017, 03:50
i really want to try it other than Iracing no other game to my knowledge other than maybe forza has ever had it on it

Daytona RC was in Gran Turismo 6. I loved that track, and the transition onto the Turn 1 banking from the infield is one of the trickier parts of the track.

dault3883
18-04-2017, 03:53
Daytona RC was in Gran Turismo 6. I loved that track, and the transition onto the Turn 1 banking from the infield is one of the trickier parts of the track.

i wouldnt know the last console system i bought was the ps2 console systems prices have gotten out rageous but thats also why i stated to my knowledge

breyzipp
18-04-2017, 06:53
Konan u know there releasing all these tracks they are going to have in the game but what i really would like to know is a release date but so far all i can get out of them on facebook is late 2017 LOL not very specific

Ian said a while ago that they are aiming for a september-ish release date and that they were on track. But he also said the game will not ship before all the fine tuning and polishing is finished, they will not release it in a hurry to reach a certain promised release date, hence why we only get the vage "late 2017". ;)


No, they have not been leaked. We know they were planned for pcars1 and speculation is that Spa and Monza won't be confirmed until the classic versions can also be confirmed. But again, that is just the prevailing conspiracy theory.

Hmm, never thought of that before but it makes sense, good point. :) It would indeed make a fine article on the news page. How cool would it be to have Rouen-Les-Essarts and the classic versions of Hockenheim, Silverstone, Monza, Le Mans and Spa. Add everything from the PCARS1 Lotus expansion to that (and a few new classic machines) and this fella couldn't be happier. :)

It starts to look amazing how much content is included in the base game. When it was released I only looked at the ice track and offroad racing as "extra fluff" but seeing those rallycross gameplay videos from the recent rallycross media reveal event and the list of rallycross tracks announced in the article, I'm seriously looking forward to that part of the game as well. Ford Focus RS RX @ all those official rallycross tracks....or just goofing around on that DirtFish area or Mercedes Ice track... bring it on! :D :D :D

Schnizz58
18-04-2017, 15:15
Well, given SMS is a UK based company, it's likely easier to get European tracks (as well as their relationships with the European tracks from the GTR/GTR2 days). This is just a guess on my part, but I think a lot of the North American tracks are playing hardball (due to iRacing). I would like to see a few more North American tracks myself, but I'm quite pleased with the diversity that is offered already in pCARS1.
When PC1 came out, I wasn't too familiar with tracks like Oulton, Donington and Snetterton but I came to love these little gems. I think it would be great to give Europeans the same opportunity to experience some of our tracks like Barber and VIR.

Mahjik
18-04-2017, 16:06
When PC1 came out, I wasn't too familiar with tracks like Oulton, Donington and Snetterton but I came to love these little gems. I think it would be great to give Europeans the same opportunity to experience some of our tracks like Barber and VIR.

The low count of North American tracks is not from a lack of effort on the SMS side. I can guarantee you on that. ;)

Schnizz58
18-04-2017, 16:29
Yeah, I'm not saying that SMS are slacking. And you could be right that licensing is what's standing in the way. I'm just saying that 1) I hate that some people are going to get the impression that the only tracks we have are NASCAR super speedways and 2) it would be great if racing fans outside the US could have a chance to experience our little gems that I feel are on par with the Oulton Parks of the world.

Azure Flare
18-04-2017, 16:41
i wouldnt know the last console system i bought was the ps2 console systems prices have gotten out rageous but thats also why i stated to my knowledge

Using Google never hurts.

honespc
18-04-2017, 17:09
Will Sebring at the very least make it?

Tank621
18-04-2017, 17:30
Every track that has been announced (so far) is on page 1 of this thread. Sebring has not been announced yet. We still have quite a few tracks left to be announced so it could be on there at a later point but we just don't know yet.

DECATUR PLAYA
18-04-2017, 19:35
I just wanted to say that from what has been shown so far the tracks look really wide which would be a great improvement for racing in Pcars 2. Is this part of the new track design that's in the game.

Konan
18-04-2017, 19:58
The tracks are all laser scanned and/or "droned" now so they are true to life...

wicken
18-04-2017, 20:07
The tracks are all laser scanned and/or "droned" now so they are true to life...
So all the new tracks in PC2 along with Nurburgring and the 4 MSV tracks are laser scanned, the others they used the drone method.
Spot on???

Konan
18-04-2017, 20:10
I don't exactly know which is which...all i know is that they are accurate...which is the real important fact of the matter...:cool:

breyzipp
18-04-2017, 21:22
Every track that has been announced (so far) is on page 1 of this thread. Sebring has not been announced yet. We still have quite a few tracks left to be announced so it could be on there at a later point but we just don't know yet.

On Sebring I can say the following from camping that GT Planet thread in it's early weeks. :triumphant:

Ian personally doesn't like Sebring as he stated in that thread. However, he also knows it's a highly requested track.

Now I know that doesn't lead anywhere but hey, it's info nonetheless. :angel:

F1_Racer68
18-04-2017, 21:37
So all the new tracks in PC2 along with Nurburgring and the 4 MSV tracks are laser scanned, the others they used the drone method.
Spot on???

According to what was posted on the GTPlanet Q&A thread, all NEW tracks are laser scanned or drone scanned using a technique called photogrammetry, as well as a few select older tracks (Nurburgring is now laser scanned).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photogrammetry

RacingAtHome
18-04-2017, 21:38
So all the new tracks in PC2 along with Nurburgring and the 4 MSV tracks are laser scanned, the others they used the drone method.
Spot on???

Probably Hockenheim seeing as they've got the RX version of that now.

wicken
18-04-2017, 21:43
According to what was posted on the GTPlanet Q&A thread, all NEW tracks are laser scanned or drone scanned using a technique called photogrammetry, as well as a few select older tracks (Nurburgring is now laser scanned).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photogrammetry

I know mate, you know me from there with the exact same alias.
I was just trying to get him to spill the beans ;)

Konan
18-04-2017, 21:56
I know mate, you know me from there with the exact same alias.
I was just trying to get him to spill the beans ;)

I'm smarter than you give me credit for mate...:p

Konan
18-04-2017, 22:03
Just as a sidenote (for those who want to try the same :cool: )...i don't give out any info on Pcars2 that i'm not 100% sure i am allowed to share...so actually close to nothing...
I leave that to the more experienced members or SMS staff...
That is just a precaution for my own peace of mind because i'm a vigorous defender of the NDA...

RacingAtHome
18-04-2017, 22:12
Just as a sidenote (for those who want to try the same :cool: )...i don't give out any info on Pcars2 that i'm not 100% sure i am allowed to share...so actually close to nothing...
I leave that to the more experienced members or SMS staff...
That is just a precaution for my own peace of mind because i'm a vigorous defender of the NDA...

And I speculate because you do this and speculating is fun!

Konan
18-04-2017, 22:20
Speculate away i'd say...;)

RacingAtHome
18-04-2017, 22:34
Speculate away i'd say...;)

A speculate a day keeps Jake here.

honespc
19-04-2017, 06:23
On Sebring I can say the following from camping that GT Planet thread in it's early weeks. :triumphant:

Ian personally doesn't like Sebring as he stated in that thread. ah damn. That is indeed a very bad start in order to see Sebring making it for pc2.

I would certainly like to see this track project cars style.

Tank621
19-04-2017, 14:41
237467

honespc
19-04-2017, 15:05
Red Bull Ring?

RacingAtHome
19-04-2017, 15:17
Red Bull Ring?

Yep.

honespc
19-04-2017, 17:52
you guys like this track?

RacingAtHome
19-04-2017, 17:56
you guys like this track?

I'm happy to have it.

dault3883
19-04-2017, 18:18
Every track that has been announced (so far) is on page 1 of this thread. Sebring has not been announced yet. We still have quite a few tracks left to be announced so it could be on there at a later point but we just don't know yet.

if we got sebring that would be sweet

dault3883
19-04-2017, 18:19
The tracks are all laser scanned and/or "droned" now so they are true to life...

was it that way with Pcars 1 or is this something new to the game?

dault3883
19-04-2017, 18:23
According to what was posted on the GTPlanet Q&A thread, all NEW tracks are laser scanned or drone scanned using a technique called photogrammetry, as well as a few select older tracks (Nurburgring is now laser scanned).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photogrammetry

will Lemans be one that is laser scanned now or was it already laser scanned

Konan
19-04-2017, 18:25
was it that way with Pcars 1 or is this something new to the game?

Some were scanned...some were not...

breyzipp
19-04-2017, 18:33
237467
Phase 1 - Whoah! New track! /jumps up and down from excitement!


Yep.
Phase 2 - Aaah crap, we already knew this one SMS... :(


you guys like this track?
From a technical point of view it's a rather simple track and I have raced it already in previous games (Gran Turismo 6 & Assetto Corsa) but I certainly welcome it to PCARS 2. I can't explain what exactly it is but the simplicity of that circuit has something attractive as well, something that makes you want to race this circuit over and over again without becoming boring (hello Long Beach!). The GP circuit is already in as we saw in the Rallycross demo reveal build and I assume the shorter national circuit will be in as well. What would be really cool though is that the original classic layout from 1969-1975 (without chicane) would be in as well (it was called the Österreichring back then). I don't think the classic track was ever in a racing game but just looking at it the fluidity of that circuit must be so fun in a classic formula car. It would be sweet if that classic circuit would make it in as well.

This image shows the modern GP circuit and the relation to the classic Österreichring very well :
http://www.news.at/_storage/asset/4787932/storage/newsat:content-center/file/65030675/formelstrecken-in-spielberg.jpg

On google maps you can see that most parts of the old circuit are still intact so it would even be possible for the team to laser/drone scan the old circuit and manually fix the missing parts:
https://www.myracingcareer.com/images/tracks/osterrichring_600.jpg
http://www.jr12.cz/files/images/red-bull-ring.jpg

1973 on-board video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCyuRwH5JMM


The classic (and more dangerous) circuits are so much more fun before safety regulations forced circuits to be changed to slower speeds by shorter straights and added chicanes. But if you drive one of those classic Lotusses (Lotusi?) on modern circuits it just feels all wrong. You need to do that on Rouen, classic Silverstone or classic Hockenheim and hopefully in PCARS2 on a few other classic gems (fingers crossed for classic versions of Monza, Spa, Le Mans and this Österreichring). :)

joelsantos24
19-04-2017, 19:19
you guys like this track?
I won't say it's my favourite track, or that I have as much fun with it, as I have with Istambul Park, for instance, but it's a fun track, no doubt.

One track that I'd absolutely love to get in the game, is Valencia. Probably the best urban track ever designed, in my humble opinion. Beautifully located, fast track, challenging corners, etc. What an amazing drive.

Schnizz58
19-04-2017, 20:57
you guys like this track?

It wouldn't have been at the top of my list but it's one that I don't have any experience with so I'm happy to have a new track to play on.

breyzipp
19-04-2017, 22:09
Guys let's not convert this to a track wishlist thread, there is a sticky post for that already. And yeah I know I broke that rule as well, I only camouflaged it a bit better. :-)

But let's keep the talk to confirmed tracks please.

Konan
20-04-2017, 06:36
Guys let's not convert this to a track wishlist thread, there is a sticky post for that already. And yeah I know I broke that rule as well, I only camouflaged it a bit better. :-)

But let's keep the talk to confirmed tracks please.

...moved the last post which was clearly a track wishlist....

OddTimer
20-04-2017, 10:05
gotta love Redbull ring, awesome news!

breyzipp
20-04-2017, 13:44
237470

joelsantos24
20-04-2017, 16:02
It's an ok track, I suppose. It's fun to drive on, no doubt, but nothing special. I hope we end up getting some more prominent circuits than this one.

TexasTyme214
20-04-2017, 20:02
Red Bull Ring paper doesn't seem like the most exciting track, but I'm curious to see how SMS' tech make the track come alive.

MillsLayne
21-04-2017, 03:58
This may have been answered, but is Sonoma for sure not coming back or is it unconfirmed either way?

dault3883
21-04-2017, 04:26
This may have been answered, but is Sonoma for sure not coming back or is it unconfirmed either way?

i hope it comes back sonoma weither its sports car course or stock car course are both fun

cluck
21-04-2017, 11:03
This may have been answered, but is Sonoma for sure not coming back or is it unconfirmed either way?Until SMS announce anything officially, any pCARS1 content appearing in pCARS2 is 'unconfirmed' :)

There's still tonnes of stuff to be announced and lots of time to do so. Also, don't be surprised if almost all of the initial energy from SMS is spent on announcing new content, rather than stuff from pCARS1 :).

Tank621
23-04-2017, 14:15
There's an article up on tge Pretend Racecars website talking about PCars 2 development

I'm not sure what to make of this but he talks about a new track:-
"There’s also an oval on the roster that hasn’t seen competition since the 1960’s"

wicken
23-04-2017, 14:29
There's an article up on tge Pretend Racecars website talking about PCars 2 development

I'm not sure what to make of this but he talks about a new track:-
"There’s also an oval on the roster that hasn’t seen competition since the 1960’s"

He might be talking about Monza old oval.

Tank621
23-04-2017, 14:33
He might be talking about Monza old oval.

I've been looking through a load of old NASCAR tracks trying to work it out Monza hasn't even crossed my mind but now that you've mentioned it that does seem likely.
I can't believe I didn't think of Monza I am literally watching the Blancpain livestream at Monza at this very moment

Edit: Just had a look Monza's last race with the oval was 1969 so it fits

gazg1986
24-04-2017, 16:22
Anyone know if the full knockhill circuit is being included along with the shorter rallycross section?

Roger Prynne
24-04-2017, 16:35
^ and more :cool:

proterra1
24-04-2017, 19:34
^ and more :cool:

Reverse license maybe? or the stockcar loop? rally stage? off-road experience? skid pad? kart track?

Roger Prynne
24-04-2017, 19:48
Now that really would be telling :barbershop_quartet_

Plus the fact that I've got a Wookiee standing behind me with a bowcaster pointed at my head.

Tank621
24-04-2017, 19:56
237509

Tank621
25-04-2017, 14:54
3 different layouts of the Red Bull Ring are in the game:-
'The new track now featured three layouts with the inclusion of a short circuit, and a club circuit which, along with the main track, will all come with Project CARS 2, scanned in vivid detail.'

RacingAtHome
25-04-2017, 15:18
They called the A1-Ring Tilke's best. Clearly Sepang, Istanbul or Shanghai isn't in game. :p

breyzipp
25-04-2017, 16:11
3 different layouts of the Red Bull Ring are in the game:-
'The new track now featured three layouts with the inclusion of a short circuit, and a club circuit which, along with the main track, will all come with Project CARS 2, scanned in vivid detail.'

Adding them now but they named them wrong. :( The official names are from biggest to smallest the GP circuit, the national circuit and the club circuit. :

A1-Ring Grand Prix Circuit:
http://www.racingcircuits.info/assets/components/phpthumbof/cache/A1Ring96-04.b3d6fe06fac602e0386be27f2932c884.png

A1-Ring National Circuit (Südschleife):
http://www.racingcircuits.info/assets/components/phpthumbof/cache/RedBullRingShort11.b3d6fe06fac602e0386be27f2932c884.png

A1-Ring Club Circuit (Nordschleife):
http://www.racingcircuits.info/assets/components/phpthumbof/cache/A1RingClub96-04.b3d6fe06fac602e0386be27f2932c884.png


I'm still sad they didn't add the original circuit, especially after so much talk about it in the article. :( Aah well, can't have it all I guess. Curious about that club circuit since I've never seen that in a game, could be a lot of fun for the lower tiers of road cars.

wicken
25-04-2017, 16:30
Curious about that club circuit since I've never seen that in a game, could be a lot of fun for the lower tiers of road cars.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y1oYSafiEI

breyzipp
25-04-2017, 16:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y1oYSafiEI

Thanks, that actually looks quite nice! A bit of a small stop-and-go circuit but with a long straight and decent elevation changes. And in a wonderful location. I always liked the Nurburgring's Müllenbachschleife in PCARS1 for some "low end" road car testing, I might actually move from Germany to Austria for that in PCARS2. :)

joelsantos24
25-04-2017, 16:47
The Red Bull Ring was also present in GT6, for that matter. I'm sorry for being a buzzkill, but this track isn't appealing, at all. I was expecting something much more compelling, from SMS.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7UQjeqXbdk

breyzipp
25-04-2017, 17:03
I think the track itself is fine, not spectacular but not boring either. The GP and national layouts are indeed in several other games (indeed GT6 but Assetto Corsa as well), the club circuit apparently also in Grid Autosport. Excluding the rallycross circuits these are the tracks new to PCARS2 (compared to PCARS1) in order of which I am looking forward to them :

The 3 tracks I never played before in any other game are of course the ones I look forward to the most. I think I might get boring quite fast with Texas though since I'm not much a fan of ovals, having that said I kinda dug the Miami oval from Forza 6's NASCAR expansion about a year ago.

1) Portugal - Autódromo Internacional do Algarve @ Portimão
2) Japan - Sugo
3) USA - Texas Motor Speedway

Then tracks I did play before:

4) Austria - Red Bull Ring (club circuit is new for me but played GP and national in GT6 and Assetto already, I still like the setting and the elevation changes though)
5) Japan - Fuji Speedway (already played this in GT6 a lot, I find this more boring than Red Bull Ring and it's only 1 layout compared to 3)
6) USA - Daytona International Speedway (already have this in FM6 and RR3, boring oval but a more than decent sportscar circuit makes up for that)
7) USA - Circuit of the Americas (already have it in FM6, I really like the first half of the track but the part from the backside hairpin and all the way back is boring).
8) USA - Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach (most...boring...track...ever... already got it in FM6 and RR3). (Not a fan of a street circus! ;))
9) Sweden - Mercedes-Benz Onroad Winter Training (this is just fluff for me, could be fun but Im not expecting much of it)

Schnizz58
25-04-2017, 17:04
They called the A1-Ring Tilke's best. Clearly Sepang, Istanbul or Shanghai isn't in game. :p
COTA is and I feel like that one is better than the Red Bull Ring.

Tank621
25-04-2017, 17:15
Breyzipp I have not given up on making you a oval fan so here's some Texas action to get you a little more interested

https://youtu.be/gv8KNya9aeA

dault3883
25-04-2017, 17:41
They called the A1-Ring Tilke's best. Clearly Sepang, Istanbul or Shanghai isn't in game. :p

that sucks Sepang and Shanghai are both great tracks iv never driven Istanbul on anything so no opinion on that one


Breyzipp I have not given up on making you a oval fan so here's some Texas action to get you a little more interested

https://youtu.be/gv8KNya9aeA

I like the big ovals Daytona and Talladega i like the plate racing in a pack. Nascar as of late has turned me off of Stock car racing though. The way they run the sport has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Tank621
25-04-2017, 18:15
As much as NASCAR is losing it a bit, there is still nothing quite like the pack racing at Daytona and Talladega