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Mattze
14-08-2017, 09:56
Hi there,

I see all the beautiful and detailled liveries in PC2, but unfortunately we're missing any historical advertising of tobacco and alcohol due to PEGI restrictions. Will there be any way apart from custom liveries to get the original liveries in the game (maybe a future update or something else)?

Mahjik
14-08-2017, 10:18
Nope... No tobacco or alcohol advertisements.

Konan
14-08-2017, 14:34
Hi there,

I see all the beautiful and detailled liveries in PC2, but unfortunately we're missing any historical advertising of tobacco and alcohol due to PEGI restrictions. Will there be any way apart from custom liveries to get the original liveries in the game (maybe a future update or something else)?

Tobacco advertising was banned years ago (across Europe) and has nothing to do with the PEGI rating...
(Too bad or my car would look like this)

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amazed
14-08-2017, 14:50
Tobacco advertising was banned years ago (across Europe) and has nothing to do with the PEGI rating...
(Too bad or my car would look like this)

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That'll be some bodykit on a Corsa! :p

Konan
14-08-2017, 14:51
Lol

breyzipp
14-08-2017, 19:25
Corsa RS500 Cosworth ;)

RacerDude
14-08-2017, 19:47
The recent NASCAR games have allowed for Alcohol sponsorship, viewable if you are over 21 years old. Since it is banned in Europe completely though I doubt we would ever see that in PCARS

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Kelderek
14-08-2017, 20:00
Alcohol advertising is not banned completely in Europe... might be in some countries, but not where I am.

However, SMS must consider restrictions on any market where they want to sell the game... so I guess the strictest rule applies!

Mattze
14-08-2017, 20:37
Maybe SMS can give an option to avoid these restrictions by user content. It's a pity to see all the "Racing" liveries.

Bealdor
14-08-2017, 20:50
The recent NASCAR games have allowed for Alcohol sponsorship, viewable if you are over 21 years old. Since it is banned in Europe completely though I doubt we would ever see that in PCARS

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I wouldn't call Miller Light alcohol though...

MillsLayne
15-08-2017, 00:07
^I thought it was essentially another "bottle water" brand, no? ;)

EHM
16-08-2017, 11:47
If I remember correctly the Rothmans livery was included on the Porsche 962C in the Forza Motorsport 4 Porsche expansion pack, thanks to some loophole with DLC and that type of content. In at least Forza Motorsport 3 (Porsche was available on-disc at launch at that time) the 962C was indeed missing that part of the livery.

Kelderek
16-08-2017, 11:56
I'm sure we can have tobacco liveries if we paste a huge "Smoking kills" decal on the cars as well! ;)

Konan
16-08-2017, 12:46
I'd rather have no tobacco/alcohol skin at all than to have it messed up by (obvious) messages...(being a smoker/drinker myself has nothing to do with it...:rolleyes: )

Fanapryde
16-08-2017, 13:22
While I 'understand' the alcohol/tobacco advertising ban (as if that helped anything), I don't see why the cars that drove before that era can't have the original ads on the liveries ? They drove before the ban, so...
A Gr5 Capri needs a BASTOS livery (e.g.) imo...:rolleyes:

Kelderek
16-08-2017, 13:26
While I 'understand' the alcohol/tobacco advertising ban (as if that helped anything), I don't see why the cars that drove before that era can't have the original ads on the liveries ? They drove before the ban, so...

Also: Many of the tobacco brands advertised in those days doesn't exist anymore... Like Rothmans and JPS. Having them on a livery is not advertising, strictly speaking.

Konan
16-08-2017, 13:27
JPS still exists in Belgium....if i can believe my son...he was talking about it only yesterday.

Kelderek
16-08-2017, 13:30
Yes, it appears that JPS is still around... at least on some markets. Not the global brand it once was.

amazed
16-08-2017, 13:31
Such an iconic image...

Fanapryde
16-08-2017, 13:32
JPS still exists in Belgium....if i can believe my son...he was talking about it only yesterday.

It does... Though the package looks 'a bit' different now (not going to post it... :rolleyes:)

Konan
16-08-2017, 13:33
Yes, it appears that JPS is still around... at least on some markets. Not the global brand it once was.

Yeah...when i was young(er) :rolleyes: you couldn't see ten cars pass without at least one of them having some kind of JPS "livery" (sticker)....that and the infamous "eagle on the hood" :cool:

amazed
16-08-2017, 14:57
Or Black & Gold Ford Capri Mk2s....

BreadedVirus
18-08-2017, 22:54
I wouldn't call Miller Light alcohol though...

cat pee...

Konan
18-08-2017, 23:22
cat pee...

No...that's Heineken...:p

Azure Flare
18-08-2017, 23:34
No...that's Heineken...:p

Bud Light you mean.

Konan
19-08-2017, 05:04
Never had an American beer but i can imagine you're right...:cool:

LukeC
19-08-2017, 07:55
The recent NASCAR games have allowed for Alcohol sponsorship, viewable if you are over 21 years old. Since it is banned in Europe completely though I doubt we would ever see that in PCARS

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Let me get this straight. Under 21s can see alcohol sponsorship on cars on tv and when they see the race live, but they can't see it in a game. What ass-backwards bizzaro world are we all living in?

Alan Dallas
20-08-2017, 06:15
I wouldn't call Miller Light alcohol though...

The only beer Miller makes that's even remotely passable as beer is their Genuine Draft. It's as close you'll get to a slightly watered down Single Hop Pilsner outside Germany.

Azure Flare
20-08-2017, 09:56
The only beer Miller makes that's even remotely passable as beer is their Genuine Draft. It's as close you'll get to a slightly watered down Single Hop Pilsner outside Germany.

It's "technically" beer.

Konan
20-08-2017, 10:01
It's "technically" beer.


I'm "technically" rich...:p

Cholton82
20-08-2017, 10:15
With the increase in deaths related to energy drinks I wonder how long until advertising is under scrutiny for them , Should it happen I'd be surprised but not totally . Personally I think some of the best looking liveries have had sponsorship with Alchohol or Cigarettes but I've never felt compelled to smoke just because I liked the look of them.

Konan
20-08-2017, 10:17
With the increase in deaths related to energy drinks I wonder how long until advertising is under scrutiny for them , Should it happen I'd be surprised but not totally . Personally I think some of the best looking liveries have had sponsorship with Alchohol or Cigarettes but I've never felt compelled to smoke just because I liked the look of them.

Some people are easily influenced though...

RoccoTTS
20-08-2017, 11:00
Some pc racing games, like Raceroom, do have tobacco and alcohol advertisements on the official(no mod) liveries. So is it fair to say it's only a problem on console ?

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Roger Prynne
20-08-2017, 11:01
I've never understood advertising of any sort as it never influences me to buy anything.

Fanapryde
20-08-2017, 11:10
I've never understood advertising of any sort as it never influences me to buy anything.
No ? the pCars advertising influenced me to buy pCars 1 ... :victorious:

Roger Prynne
20-08-2017, 11:14
^ Ah but gaming is a bit different than your run of the mill advertising, so that's excluded from my statement :rolleyes:

Konan
20-08-2017, 11:16
A new product has to be advertised...otherwise no one knows it exists...
That's not strictly advertising...that's more educating :cool:
Pcars sells itself...LOL