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BiffyClyro88
14-09-2017, 09:22
Help me i'm going crazy i think that before the end of this day i'll going to an ASYLUM!

Sorry to start a new thread about this maybe someone can send me to a LINK!

Anyway bought the G920 yesterday, started setting wheel and pedals while FFB i didn't touch it!
On track the feeling with the wheel while turning is really Wrong, is very heavy and i can't turn correctly as i want plus the wheel sometimes it moves by itself then i don't feel any vibrations on kerbs only a bit sometimes if i go on dirt!

Well i need FFB Setting and a proper nice smooth feeling while turning into corners!
I hope there will be some general, definitive settings right???
Please don't tell me every setting changes based on the type of cars and tracks... i need something good for everything!

I love Project cars but i forgot that i also hate it sometimes... SMS when released PC they forgot to gave us an engineer too with the game...

I really hope with PC2 that every kind of setting on wheel or joypad will be much more simple and smoother jeez... please tell me it will be so

Bealdor
14-09-2017, 09:34
Moved to PCARS 1 tech support forum.

A few threads to check out:

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22938-Jack-Spade-FFB-Tweaker-Files


http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?35147-Baseline-Wheel-FFB-Values-Google-Sheet-amp-FCM-Universal (http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22938-Jack-Spade-FFB-Tweaker-Files)


http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?29907-Force-Feedback-Guide-for-Project-CARS
(http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?29907-Force-Feedback-Guide-for-Project-CARS)

Don't worry, being new to the world of FFB can be overwhelming at first. But it will get easier quickly.

BiffyClyro88
14-09-2017, 09:39
Moved to PCARS 1 tech support forum.

A few threads to check out:

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22938-Jack-Spade-FFB-Tweaker-Files


http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?35147-Baseline-Wheel-FFB-Values-Google-Sheet-amp-FCM-Universal (http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22938-Jack-Spade-FFB-Tweaker-Files)


http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?29907-Force-Feedback-Guide-for-Project-CARS
(http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?29907-Force-Feedback-Guide-for-Project-CARS)

Don't worry, being new to the world of FFB can be overwhelming at first. But it will get easier quickly.

Thank you!!! Let's hope!

MartinMWWebb
14-09-2017, 09:56
I really hope with PC2 that every kind of setting on wheel or joypad will be much more simple and smoother jeez... please tell me it will be so

FFB in PC2 is much better and much more simple :)

BiffyClyro88
14-09-2017, 10:07
Strange thing...My wheel is unplugged right now so why there's a white led just under the xbox button still flashing??? and it keeps flashing...

BiffyClyro88
14-09-2017, 10:10
FFB in PC2 is much better and much more simple :)

Ah Thank god!!! I hope almost everything will be more simple in PC2!
Also cars and tracks set up settings will be more smoother?

Bealdor
14-09-2017, 13:18
Don't forget to check out youtube for "Project CARS g920 settings". ;)

Edit: Moved to XB1 support forum (because I'm an idiot).

Mowzer
14-09-2017, 16:43
http://pcars.oscarolim.pt/cars

hkraft300
14-09-2017, 20:30
... plus the wheel sometimes it moves by itself

That's the ffb.


...then i don't feel any vibrations on kerbs only a bit sometimes if i go on dirt!

You didn't change in ffb calibration (aka global) settings, so your wheel is probably overloaded (aka clipping).
Also, steering-rack simulated ffb doesn't feel quite the same as gamepad vibrations. It's very different. You'll get used to it, it takes a bit of time to re-wire your brain to the new and different information from the wheel.


...Well i need FFB Setting and a proper nice smooth feeling while turning into corners!

Then you should have bought a Thrustmaster or Fanatec. The logitech wheels are gear-driven, so they will be rough/rattle/clanky. But that's fine. You can enjoy it :)


...
I hope there will be some general, definitive settings right???
Please don't tell me every setting changes based on the type of cars and tracks... i need something good for everything!

You won't have to. That's personal preference, but default per-car ffb is fine. I just increase the in-car master scale (car tuning) for my settings, to make it weaker/stronger.

For G29/920 follow the link in my signature below.

BiffyClyro88
18-09-2017, 18:22
That's the ffb.



You didn't change in ffb calibration (aka global) settings, so your wheel is probably overloaded (aka clipping).
Also, steering-rack simulated ffb doesn't feel quite the same as gamepad vibrations. It's very different. You'll get used to it, it takes a bit of time to re-wire your brain to the new and different information from the wheel.



Then you should have bought a Thrustmaster or Fanatec. The logitech wheels are gear-driven, so they will be rough/rattle/clanky. But that's fine. You can enjoy it :)



You won't have to. That's personal preference, but default per-car ffb is fine. I just increase the in-car master scale (car tuning) for my settings, to make it weaker/stronger.

For G29/920 follow the link in my signature below.

You shocked me.. you have to be playing me a nasty joke come on!
So my wheel it's not good enough? I should have bought one more expensive? I found this Logitech at half price, at full price it's almost 500bucks and with this price shouldn't i get a nice driving experience? If it's so people at Logitech are crazy! we must think at the value of money first of all, it's unacceptable to spend all this money jeez... I pretend with a 500B. Logitech wheel to have an excellent experience!

Anyway since i posted this thread i didn't touch anymore ffb settings because i still didn't have a clue on how to setting things and what to touch so i almost lost hope...
I take your advices and i will try to do something and gain a decent experience but at SMS, people must think to do settings very easy next time because i want to enjoy the game better and not to swear all the time..

Bealdor
18-09-2017, 18:33
Don't worry, your G920 is a great wheel, especially at the price you got it.
Most of your issues are IMO just a sign that you're not used to FFB at all yet.
This happens to almost everyone so please don't regret your purchase just because you haven't found a setting that works great for you yet.

hkraft300
19-09-2017, 00:27
You shocked me...

Sorry. My Logitech wheel shocked me too seen I first got it. Couldn't finish a clean lap the first few races. Had to get used to the ffb, and learn the pedal feel.


Don't worry, your G920 is a great wheel, especially at the price you got it.
Most of your issues are IMO just a sign that you're not used to FFB at all yet..

What he said.


http://pcars.oscarolim.pt/cars

This link has a selection of ffb calibration (aka global) settings. Choose your wheel and go nuts. BTW logitech G29/920 are the same wheel.

I have some G920 settings posted in my sig below. Plug them in. Then in car tuning Ffb settings turn up the master scale (50+).
Also if the rattles bother you, set Fx/y/z smoothing to 10.

Pcars2 has simple presets for individual wheels.

BiffyClyro88
19-09-2017, 08:16
Sorry. My Logitech wheel shocked me too seen I first got it. Couldn't finish a clean lap the first few races. Had to get used to the ffb, and learn the pedal feel.



What he said.



This link has a selection of ffb calibration (aka global) settings. Choose your wheel and go nuts. BTW logitech G29/920 are the same wheel.

I have some G920 settings posted in my sig below. Plug them in. Then in car tuning Ffb settings turn up the master scale (50+).
Also if the rattles bother you, set Fx/y/z smoothing to 10.

Pcars2 has simple presets for individual wheels.


Ok i'll check this out very soon!
Anyway things are going better i'm getting used quickly (still not full clean laps) but now thanks to general FFB calibration (just a bit) and with in car jack spade set-up that make me feel more the car on track!
The only issue i got and i want to get rid off is: 1. that i still feel the wheel and the steering too heavy, too strong while getting into a turn (in some corners or turns i need to steer to much and the feeling is a heavy wheel)
2. And The force on the wheel is much stronger on straight and it's spinning on itself and i must control it or i lose the car and this thing before entering a turn is't annoying!

At the beginning i wanted to throw the wheel out of the window :mad-new::D LOL

hkraft300
19-09-2017, 08:27
1. that i still feel the wheel and the steering too heavy, too strong while getting into a turn (in some corners or turns i need to steer to much and the feeling is a heavy wheel)

Reduce tire force or ffb strength. This will make the wheel lighter across all range of signals.



2. And The force on the wheel is much stronger on straight...

Increase Scoop Reduction. This will make the wheel lighter but still give you decent kicks over bumps. Try this first.

BiffyClyro88
19-09-2017, 10:14
Reduce tire force or ffb strength. This will make the wheel lighter across all range of signals.



Increase Scoop Reduction. This will make the wheel lighter but still give you decent kicks over bumps. Try this first.

I did what you told me but i don't feel much of a difference.. don't know during turns the wheel is now ok much better and driving feels good but that damn wheel it still spinning hard on straights it's scattering and spinning hard.. in real life if i drive and get my hands off the wheel it stand still jeez.. it doesn't start spinning and if i don't control it i go off track or against wall!
what about tire force? mine is set to 90 what happens if i decrease this value? it affect the wheel too?

Bealdor
19-09-2017, 10:27
From Jack Spade's thread:


Q: My wheel oscillates around center or standstill.
A: Consider decreasing Dead Zone Removal Range value and decreasing Tire Force or force in Profiler.

Edit: More advice from GTPlanet (https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/ffb-deadzone-settings.328402/#post-10687239):


There are two types of deadzone when it comes to FFB wheels.

Steering deadzone: This means that around the center, you move the wheel -> nothing happens in game. This leads to a wandering effect on the straights, because at the center you have to rely on visual clues only to know if you're going straight (instead of relying on the wheel feel).

FFB deadzone: This means that the game is signalling the wheel to move -> wheel doesn't move. E.g. the FFB signal from the game can tell the wheel to move at 0-100% strength. So let's say your FFB deadzone is 10%, a small bump/kerb (telling the wheel to move at 9% for example) will not be felt in the wheel. This also affects center wheel behavior, because usually the forces keeping the wheel centered are relatively weak.

Steering deadzone can be corrected by using the corresponding slider in the wheel's configuration settings. Should be already at 0% if I recall correctly.
FFB deadzone (or minimum input as it's called in other sims) is in the 'FFB calibration' screen. The value to input there depends on your wheel. On PC there's a tool called WheelCheck that can check it for you.

On console it requires a bit of trial and error, but it's fairly easy to do. If the value you put in is too high, you will get oscillation on straights/standstill (when not holding the brake). This is the result of the FFB motors working against each other. So you want to test up until you get oscillation, then dial it back a notch until it's gone and you will have your value. Start at a low value! High values can damage your wheel! Start at something like 0.05, then tone up and down from there.

BiffyClyro88
19-09-2017, 11:58
From Jack Spade's thread:



Edit: More advice from GTPlanet (https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/ffb-deadzone-settings.328402/#post-10687239):

Thank you to be always ready and quick by answering and giving help! much appreciate it man! :)

Bealdor
19-09-2017, 12:19
I talked you into buying a wheel so I feel kinda responsible for it, lol.

BiffyClyro88
19-09-2017, 14:06
From what i've seen i changed values in scoop reduction and i balanced values in force tires and steering sensitivity (force tires is now among 50 and 60 for me).. now it feels better, smoother don't know if it's ok after all, off course i still need to work on something else but it's at least a base from which to start!
I have a good feeling with bmw z4 GT3, bmw M3 GT3, Mercedes AMG GT3 and LMP1 cars now steering it's more soft!

Is there a way to gain a bit of vibrations while hitting kerbs??
And is it normal not feeling the car on track? I mean sometimes i can't feel if i'm losing grip coming out from a turn and act in time to save the car from spinning!
It's sad to say it but With a joypad i can feel everything happening on track

BiffyClyro88
19-09-2017, 14:09
I talked you into buying a wheel so I feel kinda responsible for it, lol.

:):D ahahahahahaha LOL
and you better be in fact ahahahahahha
I need time i'm sure that sooner or later i will enjoy it properly!!!

Bealdor
19-09-2017, 14:14
Jack Spade has many (10) different file sets. Some of them can improve kerb feeling or give you more info on what the car is doing.
Check out the descriptions in his thread and swap out those file sets until you find one that suits you best.

Btw. not all kerbs will give you wheel vibrations because there's pretty flat IRL. There's no fake rumble built in those kerbs in PCARS.


http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/images/smilies/smile.pnghttp://forum.projectcarsgame.com/images/smilies/biggrin.png ahahahahahaha LOL
and you better be in fact ahahahahahha
I need time i'm sure that sooner or later i will enjoy it properly!!!

To be fair, PCARS' complex FFB system is not the most beginner friendly one. Take your time, it WILL get better.

hkraft300
19-09-2017, 14:26
...
I have a good feeling with bmw z4 GT3, bmw M3 GT3, Mercedes AMG GT3 and LMP1 cars now steering it's more soft!

Is there a way to gain a bit of vibrations while hitting kerbs??


You can increase master scale in the car tuning ffb settings. These will apply only to that car at that track. So you can adjust per car strength as you like.

Bealdor
19-09-2017, 14:28
You can increase master scale in the car tuning ffb settings. These will apply only to that car at that track. So you can adjust per car strength as you like.

But don't the Jack Spade files override all those car specific settings?

hkraft300
19-09-2017, 14:40
On PC, yes. After you've applied Spade's settings, you can still adjust manually, no?
I don't use Spade's ffb.

Bealdor
19-09-2017, 15:05
The files are always preferred by the game which makes in-game adjustments useless afaik.
Doesn't matter anyway because I forgot (again) that he's on xb1...