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Tank621
17-09-2017, 07:57
Get your Deer Stalkers and Magnifying Glasses at the ready it's time to do some detective work

Remember people: This is NOT a wishlist or request thread...
They are available here:
Cars: http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?21910-What-cars-do-you-want-to-see-in-game/page513
Tracks: http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22153-What-tracks-do-you-want-to-see-in-game/page200

Full Car list:
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?49899-Project-CARS-2-The-FULL-car-list-including-all-DLC

Full Track List:
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?49905-Project-CARS-2-The-FULL-track-list-including-all-DLC

Disclaimer:
Please remember guys, nothing is official until it gets released or announced.

During development we saw tracks come and go due to various reasons and there is no reason why this cant happen with these files as well.

Currently we are expecting at least four DLC Packs (4 -have been released so far) each containing at least eight cars and one track


Season Pass Details https://www.projectcarsgame.com/season-pass.html
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Upcoming Pack Names
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?51275-Upcoming-DLC-Teases-and-Speculation&p=1356190&viewfull=1#post1356190


Officially Confirmed DLC additions will be marked with :yes:

Tracks

Interlagos

Cars



Sources

Tracks

Ian Bell on Interlagos
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-general-discussion-thread-coming-september-22nd-2017.342814/page-37#post-11706226
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/project-cars-2-general-discussion-thread-coming-september-22nd-2017.342814/page-40#post-11707170

Interlagos spotted in the game files
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?51275-Upcoming-DLC-Teases-and-Speculation&p=1534360&viewfull=1#post1534360


Cars



Social Media
Official Pcars Instagram page:
https://www.instagram.com/projectcarsgame/
Official Pcars Twitter
https://twitter.com/projectcarsgame?s=09
Official Pcars Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/projectcarsgame/

breyzipp
17-09-2017, 08:00
Rumor 1 - According to Ian in the GT Planet Q&A thread SMS has been scanning Interlagos (São Paulo) in Brasil in 2017. If that makes it into PCARS 2 as a DLC or is ment for maybe PCARS 3 is yet to be seen. :)

It would be the first track from the South America continent in the PCARS franchise so that itself is already great! The track is also on the F1 calendar each year and has a really nice flow with many passing opportunities (as demonstrated by Max Verstappen in the rain in 2016 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEO_iWCHaPE).

2017 areal picture (counter-clockwise driving direction):
https://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/championship/races/2017/Brazil/_jcr_content/par/manual_gallery/image1.img.1024.medium.jpg/1425634375289.jpg


2016 Lewis Hamilton onboard pole lap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoyEBDhuECI

Konan
17-09-2017, 08:02
Message to everyone: this is not a wishlist thread...:cool:

breyzipp
17-09-2017, 08:23
The "488 Challenge" class has been spotted in a developer stream with an early pre-release build hinting that the 2017 Ferrari 488 Challenge might come to the game as future DLC and race it its own 488 Challenge class. ;)

(video at 7:06)

https://youtu.be/mvmN6mtDdR0?t=7m6s

Gejabo
17-09-2017, 10:20
The "488 Challenge" class has been spotted in a developer stream with an early pre-release build hinting that the 2017 Ferrari 488 Challenge might come to the game as future DLC and race it its own 488 Challenge class. ;)

(video at 7:06)

https://youtu.be/mvmN6mtDdR0?t=7m6s

Clicked the link to see the 488 Challenge, ended up watching the whole stream. :p
Thanks.

breyzipp
17-09-2017, 11:51
Clicked the link to see the 488 Challenge, ended up watching the whole stream. :p
Thanks.

Haha. :) But yeah gotta love Ron's passion for the classic cars, great stream! ;) Episode #4 with Stephen is really great as well if you're into career mode.

snipeme77
17-09-2017, 13:29
On the 2nd dev live stream you can see the Citroen DS3 rallycross car. I'll go back and take a screen shot a bit later

Time stamp 53:54 ish

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Tank621
17-09-2017, 15:07
That is a good spot snipeme77, I think you might have been the only one to have seen that

FS7
17-09-2017, 17:39
I suggest including link to the official PCars Instagram page in the OP:

https://www.instagram.com/projectcarsgame/

Back in PCars1 they regularly posted teasers in there, definitely a good idea to keep an eye in there.

Konan
17-09-2017, 17:45
I suggest including link to the official PCars Instagram page in the OP:

https://www.instagram.com/projectcarsgame/

Back in PCars1 they regularly posted teasers in there, definitely a good idea to keep an eye in there.

Done...added the "non wishlist" notification also...

Tank621
17-09-2017, 17:59
Thanks for that, I also added Facebook and Twitter as all the info is posted there as well so people can easily pick whichever one they prefer

And if you want to be as quick as I am just turn on notifications for their accounts, yep that's right, I just told you my secret

Konan
17-09-2017, 18:08
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Tank621
19-09-2017, 16:10
Not only mentioned... CONFIRMED by Ian himself as being one of the 4 Season Pass DLCs, along with "appropriate cars". For all those Season Pass naysayers..... you just got pwned..... This alone makes the Season Pass worth it.

https://youtu.be/uS2OKUrbh-w If anyone has a timestamp to confirm this that would be very much appreciated

snipeme77
19-09-2017, 16:26
https://youtu.be/uS2OKUrbh-w If anyone has a timestamp to confirm this that would be very much appreciated

1 hour 8 mins in

Sorry apparently I was looking at the wrong version or something

Tank621
19-09-2017, 16:42
1 hour 8 mins in

Thanks, if there's anything else let me know it's probably going to take me a coupke days to get through the whole vid

snipeme77
20-09-2017, 03:02
"If you prepaid for the DLC pass, for $29 bucks or whatever it is, you're getting the biggest ff..ing bargain in your life."- Ian Bell...

That better show up in the back of the box somewhere! lol

RacingAtHome
20-09-2017, 03:04
"If you prepaid for the DLC pass, for $29 bucks or whatever it is, you're getting the biggest ff..ing bargain in your life."- Ian Bell...

That better show up in the back of the box somewhere! lol

I'd pay for the game box as well as the game if that was on it.

Alan Dallas
20-09-2017, 05:23
"If you prepaid for the DLC pass, for $29 bucks or whatever it is, you're getting the biggest ff..ing bargain in your life."- Ian Bell...

That better show up in the back of the box somewhere! lol

ROFL!! that whole stream was epic, especially when he went off on the Simcade trolls. I was like "Oy! He sounds just like me when I rant on a Simcade troll!"
Note: Then again we're both the same salty age(I have a few months on him actually) and I'm Scottish/American. Beat you in the head with our opinion whether you like it or not. :p

honespc
20-09-2017, 07:30
Soo.., according to what was given away yesterday, is there to expect one of the four DLC packs to be full lemans filled?, classic track and cars?. Not that I hold Lemans among as a favourite motor-sport discipline tbh

I hope Ian that at least one of these packs is then full factory cars charged, in which of course the presence of the F40 and 50 be, simply speaking, mandatory. Shouldn't be too hard btw since the two are already there, but sadly in their racing variants.

Also hoping for Mugello and Sebring, or another amazing point to point road stage, or closed driveclub style such as Bannochbrae.

breyzipp
20-09-2017, 09:06
This is not a wishlist thread.

@Tank maybe link from the topic post to both car and track wishlist threads as well and put it in bold that it's not a wishlist.

If it then still doesn't work increase font size. ;)

Tank621
20-09-2017, 11:17
This is not a wishlist thread.

@Tank maybe link from the topic post to both car and track wishlist threads as well and put it in bold that it's not a wishlist.

If it then still doesn't work increase font size. ;)

Yeah good idea Breyzipp, I was also about to stick in the info of at least 4 DLC packs each containing at least 1 track and at least 8 cars

Tank621
20-09-2017, 14:30
5:14:40 "one of [the DLCs] contains alot of Ferraris"

RacingAtHome
20-09-2017, 14:37
5:14:40 "one of [the DLCs] contains alot of Ferraris"

Thanks. Knew I wasn't going insane. (more insane than I already was)

honespc
20-09-2017, 15:31
5:14:40 "one of [the DLCs] contains alot of Ferraris"there's my F40 factoryyy yeaaahh

Mattze
20-09-2017, 19:07
Is known which version of classic Le Mans it will be?

snipeme77
20-09-2017, 19:31
Is known which version of classic Le Mans it will be?
They say they're watching old films, so I'm guessing 60''s or 70's

Nathan Bell
20-09-2017, 19:32
We have more of a tease coming for you all on launch day. Keep your eye on our website, under Project CARS 2 > Season Pass.

Mattze
20-09-2017, 21:37
They say they're watching old films, so I'm guessing 60''s or 70's

This would be awesome. I'm looking forward to push Group C to the limit on the long straight without the chicanes.

FS7
20-09-2017, 22:51
5:14:40 "one of [the DLCs] contains alot of Ferraris"
I hope they don't call it "Ferrari Ultimate DLC", that would result in a lot of silly "FU DLC" jokes.

snipeme77
20-09-2017, 23:46
I hope they don't call it "Ferrari Ultimate DLC", that would result in a lot of silly "FU DLC" jokes.

Lol I could see it now...

"Excuse me sir, we're calling because of suspicious charge on your credit card, the PC FU pack?"

Konan
21-09-2017, 03:16
Amagine what the wife would think seeing that creditcard receipt...:rolleyes:

Bealdor
21-09-2017, 06:12
I hope they don't call it "Ferrari Ultimate DLC", that would result in a lot of silly "FU DLC" jokes.

Fun fact, that's the reason why the Formula Unlimited was renamed into Formula X. ;)

FS7
21-09-2017, 13:07
Fun fact, that's the reason why the Formula Unlimited was renamed into Formula X. ;)
I had heard about that.
BTW, naming the latest F1 car in AMS "Formula Ultimate" was my suggestion, :D

snipeme77
21-09-2017, 15:18
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Stole this off GT planet

So the packs for the Session pass are

Fun pack
Porsche Pack
Le Mans Icons
Ferrari Expansion

Sadly no FU pack

Grijo
21-09-2017, 15:47
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Stole this off GT planet

So the packs for the Session pass are

Fun pack
Porsche Pack
Le Mans Icons
Ferrari Expansion

Sadly no FU pack

Interesting stuff @snipeme77! I´m kinda disappointed too about the "no FU Pack" :p

I even have the game yet but I´m already hyped about the Porsche Pack! I can smell a 70´s turbo incoming...or maybe a 70´s carrera with the "ducktail" in it :cool:

FInroDz
21-09-2017, 16:01
No Fu Pack, but Fun Pack :rolleyes:

JordonBrooker
21-09-2017, 16:04
snip

Nice find!

Mattze
21-09-2017, 16:26
If we get a complete Ferrari DLC including a track, I speculate on Ferrari's home track Mugello as it was part of the development of PCars 1.

Aile_Bleue
21-09-2017, 16:36
There will be only 4 DLC for PCARS 2 ? No dlc after ? Some big manufacturers are missing...

GenBrien
21-09-2017, 16:39
There will be 4 DLCs with the season pass
But There might be more total

3800racingfool
21-09-2017, 16:49
Still hoping for some more 60s/70s Trans-Am and/or Can-Am cars in the future.

Someday....

Juhu_0815
21-09-2017, 17:08
I'd expect the LMP1 Porsche as DLC.

snipeme77
21-09-2017, 17:12
I'd expect the LMP1 Porsche as DLC.

Yeah I agree, stupid move if it's not...

But what else will come, that's the question? I'm willing to bet the Porsche 906 will join the Vintage Prototypes, 914 into VGTA or B wherever it will fit. What else is there really? Maybe a 600hp rallycross 911? (Which did happen in the 90's in the UK)

snipeme77
21-09-2017, 17:20
Just some guesses on what's going to be included...

Fun pack

Track
unknown

Cars
DS3 Rallycross car.
Some sort of stock car

Porsche Pack
Track
Interlagos

Cars
LMP1 Porsche
906
Porsche formula E
914

Le Mans Icons

Tracks
Classic Lemans

Cars
Goodwood Vette
A lola of somesort

Ferrari Expansion
Tracks
Mugello

Cars
2017 Ferrari Formula 1
F40

Tank621
21-09-2017, 17:21
Guys please don't expect any specific cars unless you have a source to back it up, you will just end up disappointed. I'm not saying it won't happen but I advise you to hold some restraint in terms of expectations as there are numerous factors that contribute to what will get added

But I would say that given it's popularity (I would say that it is probably the most requested car atm) SMS will have almost certainly given the Porsche LMP1 thought. So we will have to wait and see

And sorry for sounding like a moody bastard Hahah

eracerhead
21-09-2017, 17:37
You had me up until...:


Just some guesses on what's going to be included...

914

¿wot?

Aile_Bleue
21-09-2017, 18:03
There will be 4 DLCs with the season pass
But There might be more total

OK, thanks men

snipeme77
21-09-2017, 18:36
You had me up until...:



¿wot?

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Tank621
21-09-2017, 20:38
Hmm I can think of plenty of Porsches and Ferraris that are 'Le Mans Icons'

I feel like those will be in their brand packs so I think the cars included in the Le Mans pack will be from other brands

Off the top of my head the most famous Le Mans brands: Jaguar, Peugeot, Mercedes-Benz, Bugatti, Matra, Ford, Audi

Ford is probably a no as we have the MKIV already and the MKI and II therefore are probably not quite as worth the effort as other cars
Audi I feel like the R10 and R15 wouldn't have anything to compete with
We don't have any pre war cars atm so that seems fairly unlikely
Group 6 I feel like we have the obvious 2 already

A couple more group Cs are probable, we are still missing a few from the 3 years we already have (787B being less likely as it's a couple years later than our current field)
1950s cars seems like another obvious place for extra cars, D-Types or 300 SLRs would be a good fit here
Late 60s maybe 1 or 2 could fit in such as the Lolas

I feel like the early 70s are mainly Porsche and Ferrari so more likely in their respective packs but we don't have anything from that era atm

And I have even considered the lower classes yet, GT2/GTS maybe but there is a plethora of cars from lower tiers all through these different eras

Well that's all the speculation I can be bothered with atm but I think i've narrowed it down a tad

With at least 8 cars that's going to be a real treat whatever we get

snipeme77
21-09-2017, 21:12
Hmm I can think of plenty of Porsches and Ferraris that are 'Le Mans Icons'

I feel like those will be in their brand packs so I think the cars included in the Le Mans pack will be from other brands

Off the top of my head the most famous Le Mans brands: Jaguar, Peugeot, Mercedes-Benz, Bugatti, Matra, Ford, Audi

Ford is probably a no as we have the MKIV already and the MKI and II therefore are probably not quite as worth the effort as other cars
Audi I feel like the R10 and R15 wouldn't have anything to compete with
We don't have any pre war cars atm so that seems fairly unlikely
Group 6 I feel like we have the obvious 2 already

A couple more group Cs are probable, we are still missing a few from the 3 years we already have (787B being less likely as it's a couple years later than our current field)
1950s cars seems like another obvious place for extra cars, D-Types or 300 SLRs would be a good fit here
Late 60s maybe 1 or 2 could fit in such as the Lolas

I feel like the early 70s are mainly Porsche and Ferrari so more likely in their respective packs but we don't have anything from that era atm

And I have even considered the lower classes yet, GT2/GTS maybe but there is a plethora of cars from lower tiers all through these different eras

Well that's all the speculation I can be bothered with atm but I think i've narrowed it down a tad

With at least 8 cars that's going to be a real treat whatever we get

What if we get 2 versions of lemans? one set for the 60-70's and one set for the 90's for LMP900, GT1 and fingers crossed GT2 cars?

Tank621
21-09-2017, 21:26
What if we get 2 versions of lemans? one set for the 60-70's and one set for the 90's for LMP900, GT1 and fingers crossed GT2 cars?

90s is probably too close to the one we have, I reckon the most likely is probably eithet late 60s early 70s or late 80s (just before the chicanes). But it is a historic version of a track we already have so maybe having multiple years isn't completely off the table but I think it is fairly unlikely

ramm21
21-09-2017, 23:11
I would bet on a few retro Ferrari open wheelers. Those Loti sure look lonely

proterra1
21-09-2017, 23:26
So the season pass costs £24.99 and will include 32 cars and 6 tracks not including the day one DLC. The helmets in the picture on the offical website also match up rather well with this:


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Fun pack
Porsche Pack
Le Mans Icons
Ferrari Expansion



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FS7
21-09-2017, 23:47
https://www.projectcarsgame.com/season-pass.html

EHM
22-09-2017, 00:33
I bet that Porsche pack is Spicy.

snipeme77
22-09-2017, 00:44
So the season pass costs £24.99 and will include 32 cars and 6 tracks not including the day one DLC. The helmets in the picture on the offical website also match up rather well with this:


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Is it me, or does that helmet for the 2nd expansion look like a bike helmet? If not, what is it?

breyzipp
22-09-2017, 00:55
Expansion pack 4 with Gulf Livery huh. And the cars in that pack were also classic Le Mans themed Ian said. So maybe....

1969 Ford GT40 Mk I (Gulf livery)
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3e/e4/00/3ee40070999769937609f74b3aa6013a.jpg

1970 Porsche 917K (Gulf livery)
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/4a/1f/f1/4a1ff139be8644004bba441a1ec7ee9b.jpg

I think at least one of these is a strong candidate. :)

EHM
22-09-2017, 00:59
Well for the 917K we have both a Lemans and a Porsche pack coming so we have 2 chances to get it. :cool:

Shogun613
22-09-2017, 05:25
Is it me, or does that helmet for the 2nd expansion look like a bike helmet? If not, what is it?
That looks like a rally/rallycross helmet.

c172fccc
22-09-2017, 05:36
That looks like a rally/rallycross helmet.

Indeed. It is Sebastien Loeb's helmet. So the DS3 RX must be in this pack.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgRPJ-6WwAIZAzo.jpg

breyzipp
22-09-2017, 08:11
Indeed. It is Sebastien Loeb's helmet. So the DS3 RX must be in this pack.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgRPJ-6WwAIZAzo.jpg

Nice spotting.

Didn't Loeb race in a Peugeot from the Hansens? Or was that the previous season?

Tank621
22-09-2017, 08:12
So the season pass costs £24.99 and will include 32 cars and 6 tracks not including the day one DLC. The helmets in the picture on the offical website also match up rather well with this:


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https://www.projectcarsgame.com/season-pass.html

Added to Opening Post, 6 tracks is good though that's 2 more than we were initially promised

breyzipp
22-09-2017, 08:15
I suddenly think about another clue, it's a little one though, Brands Hatch rallycross track.

I remember watching a Dirt 4 live stream from Sim Racing Paddock months ago where the rallycross in Dirt 4 vs PCARS 2 came to the discussion in chat. Someone listed every single RX track in PCARS 2 that was coming to the game but also had Brands Hatch in that list. All the other ones were spot on.

Tank621
22-09-2017, 08:20
I suddenly think about another clue, it's a little one though, Brands Hatch rallycross track.

I remember watching a Dirt 4 live stream from Sim Racing Paddock months ago where the rallycross in Dirt 4 vs PCARS 2 came to the discussion in chat. Someone listed every single RX track in PCARS 2 that was coming to the game but also had Brands Hatch in that list. All the other ones were spot on.

Yeah, I Remember that. I think at that point we were fairly confident on which RX tracks we were getting at launch. But It's definitely worth finding that video again to make sure

Tank621
22-09-2017, 08:23
That 2nd Helmet looks like a Martini livery
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Porsche have stuck that livery on both road and racecars but here's a possibilty
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breyzipp
22-09-2017, 08:24
I suddenly think about another clue, it's a little one though, Brands Hatch rallycross track.

I remember watching a Dirt 4 live stream from Sim Racing Paddock months ago where the rallycross in Dirt 4 vs PCARS 2 came to the discussion in chat. Someone listed every single RX track in PCARS 2 that was coming to the game but also had Brands Hatch in that list. All the other ones were spot on.

I even found the video : (time index 42:20)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZR77bhSA28

This Gregor guy is spot on about the differences in tracks just listing it like that (what each game has over the other) If you don't know Dirt 4, it has Montalegre, Lydden Hill, Holjes, Hell and Loheac.

I always expected Brands Hatch RX in the base game since at that time not all tracks were announced yet. So maybe it's some leaked insider info.

breyzipp
22-09-2017, 08:25
Yeah, I Remember that. I think at that point we were fairly confident on which RX tracks we were getting at launch. But It's definitely worth finding that video again to make sure

consider that done :)

Raklodder
22-09-2017, 08:28
I would pay good money for some classic super touring cars like the Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti '94, Opel Calibra '94 and a few iconic '90s WRC classics.

Tank621
22-09-2017, 08:33
consider that done :)

Added with a message saying we don't have an official source for it

snipeme77
22-09-2017, 13:32
Jap car pack is available separately. $5

Tank621
22-09-2017, 21:29
http://youtu.be/m_mymaL8cE8

2:50:30
'When we ship Ferraris, we're going to ship circuits that are quite interesting for Ferraris or quite associated with Ferraris'

He also said 'there might be a bit of Fiorano in there, there might be a bit of Mugello in there, who knows?'
I cannot tell his level of sincerity in this statement but it is very specific

Konan
23-09-2017, 02:15
You two are always speculating...shouldn't you be racing? LOL

RoccoTTS
23-09-2017, 07:25
http://youtu.be/m_mymaL8cE8

2:50:30
'When we ship Ferraris, we're going to ship circuits that are quite interesting for Ferraris or quite associated with Ferraris'

He also said 'there might be a bit of Fiorano in there, there might be a bit of Mugello in there, who knows?'
I cannot tell his level of sincerity in this statement but it is very specific

I would be very happy if we get those 2 tracks :yes:

Tank621
23-09-2017, 08:39
You two are always speculating...shouldn't you be racing? LOL

There's a sort of weird role reversal with me making the list and Breyzipp doing alot of searching.
He's probably looking at my list thinking of ways to improve it with colour coding and the like Hahah

breyzipp
23-09-2017, 11:13
http://youtu.be/m_mymaL8cE8

2:50:30
'When we ship Ferraris, we're going to ship circuits that are quite interesting for Ferraris or quite associated with Ferraris'

He also said 'there might be a bit of Fiorano in there, there might be a bit of Mugello in there, who knows?'
I cannot tell his level of sincerity in this statement but it is very specific

2:49:20 - the idea seems to be to do quarterly DLCs.

snipeme77
23-09-2017, 14:17
2:49:20 - the idea seems to be to do quarterly DLCs.

He also says come back in 6 months and you won't believe what we've released

FS7
23-09-2017, 22:34
He also said 'there might be a bit of Fiorano in there, there might be a bit of Mugello in there, who knows?'
Mugello would be awesome!

APR193
24-09-2017, 06:21
Don't know if anyone else has bought this up but I noticed the following with a couple of car classes in the game.

Class with Ferraris P4, Lotus 30 and the GT40 is called Vintage Prototype B, but there isn't a Vintage Prototype A. Makes way nicely for an early 70s class with (no wishlisht, just some of the most obvious cars that would fit, and there are plenty more SMS could pick from) Porsche 917, Lola T70 Mk3B, Ferrari 512s, Chevron B16, Matra MS670 etc ;)

Also, Group C is called Group C1, and full of late 80s cars. Early 80s or early 90s Group C cars coming as Group C2? Or perhaps there were plans to split the low downforce and high downforce versions up that never happened??

gp20
24-09-2017, 06:35
If new cars are not on par with the ones released i don't want them.
It means that they have to put their butt in all cars they will release in order to simulate their behaviour as accuratly as they did now.

Tank621
24-09-2017, 08:02
Don't know if anyone else has bought this up but I noticed the following with a couple of car classes in the game.

Class with Ferraris P4, Lotus 30 and the GT40 is called Vintage Prototype B, but there isn't a Vintage Prototype A. Makes way nicely for an early 70s class with (no wishlisht, just some of the most obvious cars that would fit, and there are plenty more SMS could pick from) Porsche 917, Lola T70 Mk3B, Ferrari 512s, Chevron B16, Matra MS670 etc ;)

Also, Group C is called Group C1, and full of late 80s cars. Early 80s or early 90s Group C cars coming as Group C2? Or perhaps there were plans to split the low downforce and high downforce versions up that never happened??

Group C1 was called that in the 1st game as well. In real life Grpup C was split into C1 and C2 as well with C2 cars being the equivalent of LMP2. I don't think there were very many C2 cars in real life.

As for Vintage Prototypes I too am hoping for early 70s prototypes and considering we have a pack for classic Le Mans as well as Ferraris and Porsches we have 3 different oppurtunities to get some
Vintage Prototype A would logically be a faster class and would have to fit between the current class and Group 6
That being said the Historic Touring class in the 1st game was also labelled 'B' as well so I wouldn't call it a definite indication a new class being created

breyzipp
24-09-2017, 08:19
You two are always speculating...shouldn't you be racing? LOL

I missed that until now. :) I'm eagerly playing the game mate but if you set the AI close to your own skill level for career mode and want to win those championships... that's a helluva lot of concentration while racing. So I do need breaks in between playing sessions. :)


There's a sort of weird role reversal with me making the list and Breyzipp doing alot of searching.
He's probably looking at my list thinking of ways to improve it with colour coding and the like Hahah

Nah I'm still heartbroken my 2 hard-work lists are not sticky anymore. :( ;)

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By the way there are remnants of the 488 Challenge in the game, if you filter multiplayer lobbies on car class the 488 Challenge shows up. :)

Raklodder
24-09-2017, 08:38
As much as I dislike dlcs (goes for all my games) they were really smart about it and just knowing there's a Nissan Skyline and Panoz Esperante waiting for me in the game, makes me want to buy it against my better judgment, but I probably should wait for the AI fix before I reward you with my coins and yes I know the Japanese car pack was a pre-order bonus, but I would gladly pick it up for $4.99 on Steam whenever it becomes available.

PostBox981
24-09-2017, 09:18
If new cars are not on paar with the ones released i don't want them.
It means that they have to put their butt in all cars they will release in order to simulate their behaviour as accuratly as they did now.

What makes you believe they couldn´t be on par? As far as I remember some of the most fun cars ever came in with DLCs. E.g. the Corvette or the BMW StanceWorks, to name just two.

Mowzer
24-09-2017, 14:09
Not sure if this has been spotted before but in the career tab on continue career the bucket seat picture has a Abarth scorpion on it maybe thats a little easter egg for things to come? Heres hoping :).

Blake-Lee43
24-09-2017, 14:26
Don't knowing any one has seen this?
https://www.gtplanet.net/project-cars-2-dlc-info-playstation-store/

gp20
24-09-2017, 14:30
What makes you believe they couldn´t be on par? As far as I remember some of the most fun cars ever came in with DLCs. E.g. the Corvette or the BMW StanceWorks, to name just two.

Because you have to sit into the car to be able to feel how it moves and some cars are not available in UK or so rare that you will have a hard time to find one.

Tank621
24-09-2017, 15:05
Because you have to sit into the car to be able to feel how it moves and some cars are not available in UK or so rare that you will have a hard time to find one.

Surely that would apply to cars in the base game as well though, I'm not sure how you are specifically applying this to the DLC cars

gp20
24-09-2017, 15:09
Surely that would apply to cars in the base game as well though, I'm not sure how you are specifically applying this to the DLC cars

But who tells you that all cars are accurate?
Not me, i didn't try all of them but i hope.

Tank621
24-09-2017, 15:12
Don't knowing any one has seen this?
https://www.gtplanet.net/project-cars-2-dlc-info-playstation-store/

Got that linked on page one
If you spot anything else check the first post, I try to keep that as up to date as I can with all the info I can find. Saves people the trouble of trawling through all the pages looking for stuff

Eric Rowland
24-09-2017, 16:09
I like inadvertent revealage.....eagerly awaiting LeMans pack with Matra 670, Ferrari 312PB, Peugeot 905, Porsche 917, Ferrari 512, Lola T280, Peugeot 908, Toyota TS010, etc.....

Tank621
24-09-2017, 16:28
I like inadvertent revealage.....eagerly awaiting LeMans pack with Matra 670, Ferrari 312PB, Peugeot 905, Porsche 917, Ferrari 512, Lola T280, Peugeot 908, Toyota TS010, etc.....

Totally agree, we still have no idea what's going to be in that Le Mans pack but whatever they choose it will be epic

PostBox981
24-09-2017, 19:44
But who tells you that all cars are accurate?
Not me, i didn't try all of them but i hope.

If this is all that makes you worry then you can at least expect those DLC cars to be as accurate as the cars that are already in. Though me too I don´t know what the real cars feel like I definitely find most of them are a real blast and feel absolutely believeable. No doubt the DLC cars will be of the same quality.

Konan
25-09-2017, 02:47
But who tells you that all cars are accurate?
Not me, i didn't try all of them but i hope.

Manufacturers...race drivers...people who actually drove them...

snipeme77
25-09-2017, 15:43
Got some new info for ya'll...

- Audi S1 Eks (Rallycross)
- Audi Sport Quattro S1 (Classic Rallycross)
- Ford Bronco RTR (Rumors of the Funhaver being moved into a Rallycross truck class to race with this)
- Porsche 961 (GTO) The car actually raced in the earliest days of GTP in the US, but I think the current batch of GR.C is just too fast.
- Porsche 991 RSR (GTE)
- Porsche Carrera GT (Holy stickshift Batman)

All these showed up in car files when some people on GTP looked through them. I've but what classes the cars are rumored to run in based on filename alone.

Throw in the DS3 Rallycross and we have 7 cars here. Boi!

resmania
25-09-2017, 16:29
Audi Sport Quattro S1 :eagerness:

breyzipp
25-09-2017, 16:44
Got some new info for ya'll...

- Audi S1 Eks (Rallycross)
- Audi Sport Quattro S1 (Classic Rallycross)
- Ford Bronco RTR (Rumors of the Funhaver being moved into a Rallycross truck class to race with this)
- Porsche 961 (GTO)
- Porsche 991 RSR (GTE)
- Porsche Carrera GT (Holy stickshift Batman)

All these showed up in car files when some people on GTP looked through them. I've but what classes the cars are rumored to run in based on filename alone.

Throw in the DS3 Rallycross and we have 7 cars here. Boi!

Haha that Audi S1 Eks is great! Dirt 4 couldn’t license it and its the only noteworthy WRX car missing there. But Eks got Audi factory support since 2017 so yeah, I think the car can get licensed now via Audi. Great one!

Quattro S1 into rallycross is great! Need more classic RX since that Escort is so fun... and lonely. :)

Moving the RTR to rallycross is great as well! It’s big and bulky in Road G and doesn’t really fit with all the other cars there so great!

Porsche 911 RSR!!!!!!!! We got the full GTE lineup then! (M8 2018 doesn’t count yet)
Carrera GT is great too!!

I know rumours are just rumours but if all this is true..... happy! :)

RacingAtHome
25-09-2017, 17:07
Got some new info for ya'll...

- Audi S1 Eks (Rallycross)
- Audi Sport Quattro S1 (Classic Rallycross)
- Ford Bronco RTR (Rumors of the Funhaver being moved into a Rallycross truck class to race with this)
- Porsche 961 (GTO)
- Porsche 991 RSR (GTE)
- Porsche Carrera GT (Holy stickshift Batman)

All these showed up in car files when some people on GTP looked through them. I've but what classes the cars are rumored to run in based on filename alone.

Throw in the DS3 Rallycross and we have 7 cars here. Boi!

Don't forget there's the 488 Challenge.

I expect the top 3 and DS3 will be in the Fun Pack.

The Porsches in the Porsche pack and the Challenge in the Ferrari pack.

snipeme77
25-09-2017, 17:09
Don't forget there's the 488 Challenge.

I expect the top 3 and DS3 will be in the Fun Pack.

The Porsches in the Porsche pack and the Challenge in the Ferrari pack.

Yeah very true

Tank621
25-09-2017, 17:12
Got some new info for ya'll...

- Audi S1 Eks (Rallycross)
- Audi Sport Quattro S1 (Classic Rallycross)
- Ford Bronco RTR (Rumors of the Funhaver being moved into a Rallycross truck class to race with this)
- Porsche 961 (GTO)
- Porsche 991 RSR (GTE)
- Porsche Carrera GT (Holy stickshift Batman)

All these showed up in car files when some people on GTP looked through them. I've but what classes the cars are rumored to run in based on filename alone.

Throw in the DS3 Rallycross and we have 7 cars here. Boi!

240546
Will link in the topic post as soon as I can

961 is interesting though, I don't remember seeing it in anyother games before

And the Audi is a group B rallycross car, right?

snipeme77
25-09-2017, 17:36
240546
Will link in the topic post as soon as I can

961 is interesting though, I don't remember seeing it in anyother games before

And the Audi is a group B rallycross car, right?

The classic one would be yes

3800racingfool
25-09-2017, 17:59
Got some new info for ya'll...

...
- Ford Bronco RTR (Rumors of the Funhaver being moved into a Rallycross truck class to race with this)
...

Oh please be an H-pattern. Please, please, PLEASE be an H-pattern. I love the F150 and the only thing better would be if it was an H-pattern. (not a fan of the sequential box in it)

TORAZ55
25-09-2017, 18:30
Japanese pack without Supra and RX7...very sad...

JoshTheGeologist
25-09-2017, 19:43
I'm very curious what is gonna be in that fun pack. I mean when I think of fun, I think of these things...

Maybe more rally?
2017 Volkswagen Beetle GRC
https://motorsportstalk.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/oberto2017.jpg?w=610&h=343&crop=1

Or maybe more stock cars?
2018 Chevy Camaro ZL1
http://thenewswheel.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/cq5dam.web_.1280.1280-7-760x396.jpeg

If we want to get really fun and crazy, why not FIA euro truck racing? It is in Forza. I think it'd be pretty badass to try one of these out!
http://www.fiaetrc.com/timthumb.php?w=1000&src=%2Fimages%2F%2FNring_1.jpg

Tank621
25-09-2017, 20:19
Hmm I looked a bit at the Porsche 961 and it was built under Group B classifications and raced in IMSA's GTX class (equivalent of Group 5) as well as the GTP class in 1987 so it could be in a number of different classes in-game

breyzipp
25-09-2017, 20:41
Hmm I looked a bit at the Porsche 961 and it was built under Group B classifications and raced in IMSA's GTX class (equivalent of Group 5) as well as the GTP class in 1987 so it could be in a number of different classes in-game

Let's get a copy for each motorsport then like they did with the GT-One. :)

Can never have too many cars in a class! Err except GT3 maybe. :D

Raklodder
26-09-2017, 07:34
I find it interesting how AC costs as much as the season pass (i won't buy AC because i don't want to support that developer) but it just seems a bit strange.

m355y
26-09-2017, 08:02
I find it interesting how AC costs as much as the season pass (i won't buy AC because i don't want to support that developer) but it just seems a bit strange.

your loss. AC is excellent.

Djuvinile
26-09-2017, 08:50
^ not on console

Trooper117
26-09-2017, 10:18
I would buy anything that enhances the classic series of cars and tracks from the 60's... I love that era of motor racing. I was completely enthralled by it as a young kid :)

Marine
26-09-2017, 19:29
Haha that Audi S1 Eks is great! Dirt 4 couldn’t license it and its the only noteworthy WRX car missing there. But Eks got Audi factory support since 2017 so yeah, I think the car can get licensed now via Audi. Great one!

Quattro S1 into rallycross is great! Need more classic RX since that Escort is so fun... and lonely. :)

Moving the RTR to rallycross is great as well! It’s big and bulky in Road G and doesn’t really fit with all the other cars there so great!

Porsche 911 RSR!!!!!!!! We got the full GTE lineup then! (M8 2018 doesn’t count yet)
Carrera GT is great too!!

I know rumours are just rumours but if all this is true..... happy! :)

Oh yeah i'll love it!! :)

I hope that the BMW M8 GTE will be comming too:) (So awesome car!)

LamboMantisMan23
27-09-2017, 20:51
Game files show following cars:

- Ferrari FXX K
- Ferrari F12tdf
- Ferrari 488 Challenge
- Ferrari 250 Testarossa
- Ferrari 458 Speciale Aperta
- Ferrari 512 BB LM
- Ferrari F355 Challenge
- Audi R18 e-tron quattro (2016)
- Porsche 917 Langheck
- Porsche 908/03
- Porsche 917/10
- Porsche 917K
- Porsche 935/78
- Porsche 959 S
- Porsche 961
- Porsche 911 RSR
- Toyota TS050 Hybrid
- Ford Bronco Brocky
- SMS RWD Dunester

snipeme77
27-09-2017, 21:19
Game files show following cars:

- Ferrari FXX K
- Ferrari F12tdf
- Ferrari 488 Challenge
- Ferrari 250 Testarossa
- Ferrari 458 Speciale Aperta
- Ferrari 512 BB LM
- Ferrari F355 Challenge
- Audi R18 e-tron quattro (2016)
- Porsche 917 Langheck
- Porsche 908/03
- Porsche 917/10
- Porsche 917K
- Porsche 935/78
- Porsche 959 S
- Porsche 961
- Porsche 911 RSR
- Toyota TS050 Hybrid
- Ford Bronco Brocky
- SMS RWD Dunester

Lots and lots and lots of things to look forward to!

BUT, strange lack or anything not porsche (8) or Ferrari (7)

1 Audi, 1 Toyota, 1 Ford, 1 SMS special and the DS3 Rallycross which is coming but not in the above list

Someone on GTP saw the 2 audi rallycross cars

That's 22 cars total so far

Kevinttel
27-09-2017, 21:56
Game files show following cars:

- Ferrari FXX K
- Ferrari F12tdf
- Ferrari 488 Challenge
- Ferrari 250 Testarossa
- Ferrari 458 Speciale Aperta
- Ferrari 512 BB LM
- Ferrari F355 Challenge
- Audi R18 e-tron quattro (2016)
- Porsche 917 Langheck
- Porsche 908/03
- Porsche 917/10
- Porsche 917K
- Porsche 935/78
- Porsche 959 S
- Porsche 961
- Porsche 911 RSR
- Toyota TS050 Hybrid
- Ford Bronco Brocky
- SMS RWD Dunester

Screenshots?

Raklodder
27-09-2017, 22:22
A single Ford? Now I'm disappoint.

RacingAtHome
27-09-2017, 22:23
Game files show following cars:

- Ferrari FXX K
- Ferrari F12tdf
- Ferrari 488 Challenge
- Ferrari 250 Testarossa
- Ferrari 458 Speciale Aperta
- Ferrari 512 BB LM
- Ferrari F355 Challenge
- Audi R18 e-tron quattro (2016)
- Porsche 917 Langheck
- Porsche 908/03
- Porsche 917/10
- Porsche 917K
- Porsche 935/78
- Porsche 959 S
- Porsche 961
- Porsche 911 RSR
- Toyota TS050 Hybrid
- Ford Bronco Brocky
- SMS RWD Dunester

I'm going to have to see some screenshots of that.

eracerhead
27-09-2017, 22:34
Would be gutted if the 250GTO doesn't make that list...

breyzipp
27-09-2017, 22:35
Game files show following cars:

- Ferrari FXX K
- Ferrari F12tdf
- Ferrari 488 Challenge
- Ferrari 250 Testarossa
- Ferrari 458 Speciale Aperta
- Ferrari 512 BB LM
- Ferrari F355 Challenge
- Audi R18 e-tron quattro (2016)
- Porsche 917 Langheck
- Porsche 908/03
- Porsche 917/10
- Porsche 917K
- Porsche 935/78
- Porsche 959 S
- Porsche 961
- Porsche 911 RSR
- Toyota TS050 Hybrid
- Ford Bronco Brocky
- SMS RWD Dunester

As much as I love the classics... if that is true... :excitement: :excitement: :excitement:

RomKnight
27-09-2017, 22:38
If that list is valid I could do with just ONE.

Hint: F40 ;)

Azure Flare
27-09-2017, 22:40
"Dunester" is a car that was in the early stages of development. Not gonna say what it was though but I kinda hope it makes a return with it's proper name.

snipeme77
27-09-2017, 23:27
"Dunester" is a car that was in the early stages of development. Not gonna say what it was though but I kinda hope it makes a return with it's proper name.

Well I'm guessing the Dunester is the Dunester buggy thing with a VW engine in it. You know, that little surfer boy kit car...

Scuderia Paul
27-09-2017, 23:27
Nice list. Plenty of fantastic machines to look forward to there.


As much as I love the classics... if that is true... :excitement: :excitement: :excitement:
The 2016 TS050 HYBRID is on the way. Info comes from somebody very much in the know.

LamboMantisMan23
27-09-2017, 23:30
The list isn't every DLC car coming I am guessing, it's missing a few. Also, in the game files are linking to DLC 6, 7, 8. Not sure what this means, but we could be having more than 4 packs.

P.S. I don't want to post screenshots as it will let SMS know what other things I am doing that i want to do in private, so you're gonna have to take my word for it.

TS040 Sparky
27-09-2017, 23:33
Nice list. Plenty of fantastic machines to look forward to there.


The 2016 TS050 HYBRID is on the way. Info comes from somebody very much in the know.

Yo Paul!!

Who knows, could that be....a 2017 TS050? The R18 says 2016, the TS050 doesn’t.

LamboMantisMan23
27-09-2017, 23:33
"Dunester" is a car that was in the early stages of development. Not gonna say what it was though but I kinda hope it makes a return with it's proper name.

It's classed as the Ariel Atom 3 in the files, so let's hope they return

breyzipp
27-09-2017, 23:40
Yo Paul!!

Who knows, could that be....a 2017 TS050? The R18 says 2016, the TS050 doesn’t.

The Audi is probably named 2016 because there is already one named 2014 in the game as well. They didn’t name the TS040 in its model name 2014 either. So that’s one more reason to believe this pack can be true. In game it will look like this then:

2014 Audi e-tron Quattro (2014)
2016 Audi e-tron Quattro (2016)
2014 Toyota TS040
2016 Toyota TS050

It’s the exact same thing as the Toyota GT-One (1998 and 1999) and The Bentley Continental GT3 (2015 and 2015).

If a car with the exact same model name appears twice SMS adds the year behind it.

I sure hope the TS050 is the 2016 model and not 2017. 2016 is the one that will be remembered for decades to come. 2017 we now already don’t talk about anymore lol

Scuderia Paul
27-09-2017, 23:41
Yo Paul!!

Who knows, could that be....a 2017 TS050? The R18 says 2016, the TS050 doesn’t.
Don't I know you from somewhere?! ;)

Wouldn't that be great. I cannot imagine Toyota sharing the latest info, and besides having straight rivals would be ideal. All we have to do is wait presumably until near June...

TS040 Sparky
27-09-2017, 23:45
Don't I know you from somewhere?! ;)

Wouldn't that be great. I cannot imagine Toyota sharing the latest info, and besides having straight rivals would be ideal. All we have to do is wait presumably until near June...

I’ll ask Nick, as he works at TMG.

Vit7
27-09-2017, 23:45
your loss. AC is excellent.
True.. best racing game on ipad :)

TS040 Sparky
28-09-2017, 00:03
I hope it’s the Le Mans spec TS050....

Cheesenium
28-09-2017, 03:06
Now, I just hope to see SMS bring a 2017 Porsche 919. The 2017 car looks a lot better for me than the 2016 one while the win is more iconic for me.

RacingAtHome
28-09-2017, 05:02
What really is interesting is where all the Porsches go. We have 10 and it's 8 per pack. So it could mean that the 919 Hybrid and 917K go into the Le Mans pack as an example.

Cheesenium
28-09-2017, 05:54
The only two minor complaints I have on the leaked DLC content so far is, it is a bit leaning too much on historical cars that some people may not like it. The other one is, I would want some of the smaller class like Group 4, TCR and so on expanded.

Kebabfelix
28-09-2017, 06:04
MUGELLO? Oh **** me sideways I love that track!!

Invincible
28-09-2017, 06:16
MUGELLO? Oh **** me sideways I love that track!!

Please mind your language. We're trying to keep it family friendly here.

ShimonART
28-09-2017, 06:31
488 and f355 challenge finally!

breyzipp
28-09-2017, 06:32
What really is interesting is where all the Porsches go. We have 10 and it's 8 per pack. So it could mean that the 919 Hybrid and 917K go into the Le Mans pack as an example.

919 Hybrid was not on the list? I'd love to see the 2016 version though, together with the Audi and Toyota. ;)

But true about the 917K, Ian said in the Ozzie chat that the Le Mans pack was accompanied with cars that fit with classic Le Mans. So yes that 917K will for sure go there.

Dealman
28-09-2017, 06:37
Really disappointing to see that they'll most likely just milk the hell out of the Ferrari and Porsche licenses. God forbid having some variety.

What about huge rally icons such as the Lancia Stratos? It even made appearances in Group 4 and 5. But no, better have 30 Ferraris and 30 Porsches.

Tank621
28-09-2017, 06:38
Well Damn, that is quite something, now I am very pleased with that list. Linked on the 1st page as usual.
Seriously though if that is true I am extremely satisfied with that list, from all that we've seen so far it has nailed my personal request list almost perfectly

Invincible
28-09-2017, 06:42
Really disappointing to see that they'll most likely just milk the hell out of the Ferrari and Porsche licenses. God forbid having some variety.

What about huge rally icons such as the Lancia Stratos? It even made appearances in Group 4 and 5. But no, better have 30 Ferraris and 30 Porsches.

YOu simply cannot please people - this really drives me mad and causes my blood pressure to shoot through the roof. :mad:

PC1: Everyone was snivelling and whining because there's no Ferrari or Porsche. *mimimimi*
PC2: Too many Ferrari and Porsche *mimimimi*

breyzipp
28-09-2017, 06:55
YOu simply cannot please people - this really drives me mad and causes my blood pressure to shoot through the roof. :mad:

PC1: Everyone was snivelling and whining because there's no Ferrari or Porsche. *mimimimi*
PC2: Too many Ferrari and Porsche *mimimimi*

Fully agree! Also always this obsession with DLC and future content, I mean we have less than a week access to 180 cars which includes some true gems. I did hop in and out of cars quite a lot the last few days and I don't think I've even tried 30 of them.

Sometimes the real gems are also hidden in unexpected places. For example I took that old 70s BMW 2002 Turbo to Snetterton 100 a few days ago, just doing some laps in a time trial. Suddenly I can hear the rear tires gently giving me an invitation they are in the mood for drifting. I'm not even a drifter but I was like hmmm, let's check out how much they are in a mood for it. A little later I'm drifting all the way through that large corner, feeling/hearing the progression of the slide perfectly on a PS4 DualShock controller. I'm not even using the handbrake, the drift can gently be started just by the right speed and steering angle and then kept well under control with the right amount of throttle and steering.

I know we can be obsessed / hyped / disappointed / curious / whatever with future DLC content but guys, this game has endless combinations of car + track + time of day + weather conditions. There are some true gems to be found in the game thanks to the new physics engine. Here I am enjoying an old PCARS 1 car on an old PCARS 1 track which feels like a totally new experience just because of the improved mechanics in the game.

Go out there, pick a car you perhaps didn't like much in PCARS 1, pick a track and go have some fun!

Dealman
28-09-2017, 06:58
YOu simply cannot please people - this really drives me mad and causes my blood pressure to shoot through the roof. :mad:

PC1: Everyone was snivelling and whining because there's no Ferrari or Porsche. *mimimimi*
PC2: Too many Ferrari and Porsche *mimimimi*

I know it's hard to please everyone, in fact, impossible. But in all honesty it's a bit over-the-top. If all these rumors are true, a very big chunk of PCARS 2 will consist of just Ferraris and Porsches.

I understand these are huge licenses, but they're milking this as much as EA Games, Activision and Ubisoft milk their games. And I really don't want PCARS to become "one of those", I thought they were a bit more passionate. They finally added a 1969 Camaro, one of which I own myself in real life and it's great. Why not add more muscle cars? More rally cars? More iconic cars in general. Add some variety for crying out loud.

I actually don't recall seeing that many complaints about the lack of Ferrari and Porsche in PCARS 1, mostly complaints about the physics. Something which they have in my opinion fixed very, very nicely.

Invincible
28-09-2017, 07:07
I know it's hard to please everyone, in fact, impossible. But in all honesty it's a bit over-the-top. If all these rumors are true, a very big chunk of PCARS 2 will consist of just Ferraris and Porsches.

I understand these are huge licenses, but they're milking this as much as EA Games, Activision and Ubisoft milk their games. And I really don't want PCARS to become "one of those", I thought they were a bit more passionate. They finally added a 1969 Camaro, one of which I own myself in real life and it's great. Why not add more muscle cars? More rally cars? More iconic cars in general. Add some variety for crying out loud.

I actually don't recall seeing that many complaints about the lack of Ferrari and Porsche in PCARS 1, mostly complaints about the physics. Something which they have in my opinion fixed very, very nicely.

I would bet there's more to come. Not only Ferraris and Porsches. But I don't know what will come either.

Dealman
28-09-2017, 07:11
I would bet there's more to come. Not only Ferraris and Porsches.

I don't doubt it, I'm sure there will be. I'm just hoping they'll widen their car selection a bit. As I said, variety is good - it makes for good replayability.

Invincible
28-09-2017, 07:15
I don't doubt it, I'm sure there will be. I'm just hoping they'll widen their car selection a bit. As I said, variety is good - it makes for good replayability.

The main problem is, everyone wants something else. I, for example, have no love for muscle cars, especially vintage ones. But I would like to see the TCR roster fleshed out and on top of that some (5 - 6 cars would suffice :p) mid to late 90's BTCC cars.

Tank621
28-09-2017, 07:17
By my reckoning we have evidence for 24 of the minimum 32 cars, which includes 3 Rallycross cars, 2 LMP1, 2 Modern GTs, 2 Group 5, 4 Vintage Prototypes, 1 Vintage GT, 2 other old GTs and maybe 8 Road, Trackday or 'other' cars. That is hardly lacking diversity from my point of view

major sunscreen
28-09-2017, 07:18
I'd prefer news about fixes for the G920 issue and tyre warming issue as a dlc on top of those seems a bit pointless really...otherwise any chance of thruxton being chucked in..?

Dealman
28-09-2017, 07:21
By my reckoning we have evidence for 24 of the minimum 32 cars, which includes 3 Rallycross cars, 2 LMP1, 2 Modern GTs, 2 Group 5, 4 Vintage Prototypes, 1 Vintage GT, 2 other old GTs and maybe 8 Road, Trackday or 'other' cars. That is hardly lacking diversity from my point of view

I'm not complaining about class diversity, but rather manufacturer. Sure, we have a lot to choose from, but I'm talking about future releases. :joyous:

RoccoTTS
28-09-2017, 07:26
If you are looking at the complete car roster including the upcoming dlc, it's fair to say it's the most diverse car list i've ever seen in any sim game for the last 10 years.

Zenzic
28-09-2017, 07:53
"Porsche 911 RSR"

I'm happy. :)

phil.94
28-09-2017, 07:56
I think the "Fun Pack" will have one RX-Track, so I assume it will be Barcelona RX, because the license of Barcelona is already there.

IJerichoI
28-09-2017, 08:00
I know it's hard to please everyone, in fact, impossible. But in all honesty it's a bit over-the-top. If all these rumors are true, a very big chunk of PCARS 2 will consist of just Ferraris and Porsches.

I understand these are huge licenses, but they're milking this as much as EA Games, Activision and Ubisoft milk their games. And I really don't want PCARS to become "one of those", I thought they were a bit more passionate. They finally added a 1969 Camaro, one of which I own myself in real life and it's great. Why not add more muscle cars? More rally cars? More iconic cars in general. Add some variety for crying out loud.

I actually don't recall seeing that many complaints about the lack of Ferrari and Porsche in PCARS 1, mostly complaints about the physics. Something which they have in my opinion fixed very, very nicely.

As far as I can see this mostly adds a Porsche to several classes. So I see it basically as great having more diversity in the classes. It's not like they are everywhere in the game. Also, Porsche and Ferrari did have quite some history in Racing compared to other manufacturers.

I'm really happy to see them, and looking at our current classes they don't stand out that much.

And yes, more vintage diversity for the touring and GT series would be welcome.

I remember seeing the Ford RS200 back in 2012 in the design documents for the first game. Maybe this accompanies the Audi S1 quattro historic RX car, would be great!

Scuderia Paul
28-09-2017, 08:12
By my reckoning we have evidence for 24 of the minimum 32 cars, which includes 3 Rallycross cars, 2 LMP1, 2 Modern GTs, 2 Group 5, 4 Vintage Prototypes, 1 Vintage GT, 2 other old GTs and maybe 8 Road, Trackday or 'other' cars. That is hardly lacking diversity from my point of view.
The 919 Hybrid 2016 was also found as a WIP render. So 3 x LMP1-H.

IJerichoI
28-09-2017, 08:20
The 919 Hybrid 2016 was also found as a WIP render. So 3 x LMP1-H.

Yeah, that wouldn't make much sense otherwise to have both the newer Audi and Toyota.

Tank621
28-09-2017, 09:17
Well as a quick run down of everything we have evidence for so far:

Tracks

Interlagos
Mugello
Fiorano
Classic Le Mans
Brands Hatch RX (I am still a bit sceptical about this one)

Cars

Audi
Audi S1 Eks (Rallycross)
Audi Sport Quattro S1(Group B Rallycross)
Audi R18 e-tron quattro (2016) (LMP1)

Citroen
Citroen DS3 (Rallycross)

Ferrari
Ferrari FXX K
Ferrari F12tdf
Ferrari 488 Challenge (Ferrari Challenge)
Ferrari 250 Testarossa
Ferrari 458 Speciale Aperta
Ferrari 512 BB LM (Group 5)
Ferrari F355 Challenge (Classic Ferrari Challenge)

Ford
Ford Bronco RTR (Off Road Trucks)
Ford Bronco Brocky (Off Road Trucks)
(Presumably the same)

Porsche
Porsche 961(GTO or Group 5)
Porsche 991 RSR (GTE)
Porsche Carrera GT
Porsche 917 Langheck (Vintage Prototype A)
Porsche 908/03 (Vintage Prototype A)
Porsche 917/10 (Vintage Prototype A)
Porsche 917K (Vintage Prototype A)
Porsche 935/78 (Group 5)
Porsche 959 S
Porsche 919 Hybrid (LMP1)

Toyota
Toyota TS050 Hybrid (LMP1)

SMS
SMS RWD Dunester

Cheesenium
28-09-2017, 10:31
I know it's hard to please everyone, in fact, impossible. But in all honesty it's a bit over-the-top. If all these rumors are true, a very big chunk of PCARS 2 will consist of just Ferraris and Porsches.

I understand these are huge licenses, but they're milking this as much as EA Games, Activision and Ubisoft milk their games. And I really don't want PCARS to become "one of those", I thought they were a bit more passionate. They finally added a 1969 Camaro, one of which I own myself in real life and it's great. Why not add more muscle cars? More rally cars? More iconic cars in general. Add some variety for crying out loud.

I actually don't recall seeing that many complaints about the lack of Ferrari and Porsche in PCARS 1, mostly complaints about the physics. Something which they have in my opinion fixed very, very nicely.

The thing is, both Porsche and Ferrari have a long and treasured history in motorsports and road cars. I know the present game has a lot of Porsche and Ferrari but to be honest, what we have is just a small fraction of what these 2 brands can offer.

Personally, I am a bit mixed on this. While I love to see these Porsches and Ferraris, I would like to see other manufacturers get some love too. Nevertheless, they all looks interesting to me, though.

Even AC has the same problem now, too many Porsches and Ferraris but they are awesome to drive.

breyzipp
28-09-2017, 11:26
Well as a quick run down of everything we have evidence for so far:

Tracks

Interlagos
Mugello
Fiorano
Classic Le Mans
Brands Hatch RX (I am still a bit sceptical about this one)

Cars

Audi
Audi S1 Eks
Audi Sport Quattro S1
Audi R18 e-tron quattro (2016)

Citroen
Citroen DS3 Rallycross

Ferrari
Ferrari 488 Challenge
Ferrari FXX K
Ferrari F12tdf
Ferrari 488 Challenge
Ferrari 250 Testarossa
Ferrari 458 Speciale Aperta
Ferrari 512 BB LM
Ferrari F355 Challenge

Ford
Ford Bronco RTR
Ford Bronco Brocky
(Presumably the same)

Porsche
Porsche 961
Porsche 991 RSR
Porsche Carrera GT
Porsche 917 Langheck
Porsche 908/03
Porsche 917/10
Porsche 917K
Porsche 935/78
Porsche 959 S
Porsche 919 Hybrid

Toyota
Toyota TS050 Hybrid

SMS
SMS RWD Dunester

Add the assumed classes to it :-)

And maybe note the rumoured class change for the F-150 RTR from road G to rallycross as well.

Raklodder
28-09-2017, 11:29
Ferrari 488 Challenge
Ferrari FXX K
Ferrari F12tdf
Ferrari 488 Challenge
Ferrari 250 Testarossa
Ferrari 458 Speciale Aperta
Ferrari 512 BB LM
Ferrari F355 Challenge

Porsche 961
Porsche 991 RSR
Porsche Carrera GT
Porsche 917 Langheck
Porsche 908/03
Porsche 917/10
Porsche 917K
Porsche 935/78
Porsche 959 S
Porsche 919 Hybrid
I was looking forward to get some super touring cars such as the Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti, Opel Calibra, etc. and a few iconic '90s WRC classics and I'm honestly disappointed with that generic car roster.

Cheesenium
28-09-2017, 11:41
I was looking forward to get some super touring cars such as the Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti, Opel Calibra, etc. and a few iconic '90s WRC classics and I'm honestly disappointed with that generic car roster.

That car is can be almost anything other than generic. Some of those cars, like Carrera Gt, 917K, 919, 458, F12 and 512BB are the cars that I had been waiting to drive in a game.

We do need a 512S to pair with the 917K.

Tank621
28-09-2017, 11:45
Add the assumed classes to it :-)

And maybe note the rumoured class change for the F-150 RTR from road G to rallycross as well.

I'll put them under 'Off Road Truck'

And I've stuck this list on to the first post, it's way easier to read this way

If you think we can narrow down the Road cars to a specific class, I'll add that as well

Raklodder
28-09-2017, 11:46
That car is can be almost anything other than generic. Some of those cars, like Carrera Gt, 917K, 919, 458, F12 and 512BB are the cars that I had been waiting to drive in a game.
We do need a 512S to pair with the 917K.
Do you know if the game will support mods (custom cars) and not only liveries? That could totally make up for missing fan favorites!

LamboMantisMan23
28-09-2017, 11:55
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Tank621
28-09-2017, 11:57
Actually I'm also going to try and sort them into expected DLC pack as well

Raklodder
28-09-2017, 12:16
I just bought Assetto Corsa to get the Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Ti (you didn't leave me much choice...) but now I get the best of two worlds, Project Cars (2) graphics and my Italian wet dream.

headder
28-09-2017, 12:36
Those three should be put in a new class/category in PCars2, like LMP1-H.

I don't want to have 'WEC races' with R18 from 2014 and 2016 on a same track, same goes for Toyota. That would be strange...


Audi R18 e-tron quattro (2016) (LMP1)
Porsche 919 Hybrid (LMP1)
Toyota TS050 Hybrid (LMP1)

EHM
28-09-2017, 13:03
Well if that list is true then basically every Porsche I want will be in, not to mention the updated Audi and Toyota LMPs. :D

Not really a Ferrari fan but there is one older road car I hope is one of the unnamed slots, to go against that 959.

Killer Bob
28-09-2017, 13:12
All I want is the 917 K at Le Mans (Gulf livery plz). I just want to be Steve McQueen

Tank621
28-09-2017, 13:14
All I want is the 917 K at Le Mans (Gulf livery plz). I just want to be Steve McQueen

Well we do have Gulf liveries this time around (GTE Aston Martin) so I think you will probably get lucky on that one

balderz002
28-09-2017, 14:17
I dunno if it got mentioned earlier in the thread as I have somewhat scanned the past 17 pages......

Can we take anything from the style of helmets displayed in the season pass image on page 1 of whats coming when on the theme of the dlc? I mean the Expansion Pack 2 helmet looks all rad/gnarley and offroady. The season pass 4 helmet looks like McQueen's from Le Mans................

Tank621
28-09-2017, 15:19
I dunno if it got mentioned earlier in the thread as I have somewhat scanned the past 17 pages......

Can we take anything from the style of helmets displayed in the season pass image on page 1 of whats coming when on the theme of the dlc? I mean the Expansion Pack 2 helmet looks all rad/gnarley and offroady. The season pass 4 helmet looks like McQueen's from Le Mans................

All the info you need is in the 1st post (sorry that it's a bit of a mess) but the 4 season pass packs are 'Fun', Porsche, Le Mans, and Ferrari

PeteUplink
28-09-2017, 15:23
*deleted* Got my answer.

Bealdor
28-09-2017, 17:18
Latest posts removed.

For those in the know, please don't post this content here. Thank you.

cornishbrooksy
28-09-2017, 17:24
Please remember guys, nothing is official until it gets released or announced.

During development we saw tracks come and go due to various reasons and there is no reason why this cant happen with these files as well.

Also remember with PCars 1 and the "leaked season pass"......yes that didn't come to fruition either (yes, i'm still bitter about Macau!), so please don't get hopes up based upon some files in the code.

snipeme77
28-09-2017, 17:24
Latest posts removed.

Getting 1 star on YELP for deleting posts... :(

JoshTheGeologist
28-09-2017, 17:26
Well as a quick run down of everything we have evidence for so far:

Tracks

Interlagos
Mugello
Fiorano
Classic Le Mans
Brands Hatch RX (I am still a bit sceptical about this one)

Cars

Audi
Audi S1 Eks (Rallycross)
Audi Sport Quattro S1(Group B Rallycross)
Audi R18 e-tron quattro (2016) (LMP1)

Citroen
Citroen DS3 (Rallycross)

Ferrari
Ferrari FXX K
Ferrari F12tdf
Ferrari 488 Challenge (Ferrari Challenge)
Ferrari 250 Testarossa
Ferrari 458 Speciale Aperta
Ferrari 512 BB LM (Group 5)
Ferrari F355 Challenge (Classic Ferrari Challenge)

Ford
Ford Bronco RTR (Off Road Trucks)
Ford Bronco Brocky (Off Road Trucks)
(Presumably the same)

Porsche
Porsche 961(GTO or Group 5)
Porsche 991 RSR (GTE)
Porsche Carrera GT
Porsche 917 Langheck (Vintage Prototype A)
Porsche 908/03 (Vintage Prototype A)
Porsche 917/10 (Vintage Prototype A)
Porsche 917K (Vintage Prototype A)
Porsche 935/78 (Group 5)
Porsche 959 S
Porsche 919 Hybrid (LMP1)

Toyota
Toyota TS050 Hybrid (LMP1)

SMS
SMS RWD Dunester

Meh

Bealdor
28-09-2017, 17:31
Getting 1 star on YELP for deleting posts... :(

Sorry I don't like doing such things but we really had to.

Tank621
28-09-2017, 17:33
Please remember guys, nothing is official until it gets released or announced.

During development we saw tracks come and go due to various reasons and there is no reason why this cant happen with these files as well.

Also remember with PCars 1 and the "leaked season pass"......yes that didn't come to fruition either (yes, i'm still bitter about Macau!), so please don't get hopes up based upon some files in the code.

Good point, I should stick that in the topic post

Tank621
28-09-2017, 17:38
Latest posts removed.

For those in the know, please don't post this content here. Thank you.

If there's anything else in my opening post that shouldn't be there, let me know

BiffyClyro88
28-09-2017, 18:49
No no i can't believe it if these rumors will be true it's a disaster.. so dlc cars are just tons of porsche and ferrari with some rallycross and off road trucks??! Really? Wow
What about more touring cars modern and old? What about the new TCR series with all brand new cars? More Aussie v8? More gt3/gt1 cars modern and vintage? BTCC cars? i won't never preorder a PC game with season pass in future...
If i want rallycross i buy DIRT 4!
This game want to do too many things, no one asked for rally cross and ice tracks in this game

Bealdor
28-09-2017, 18:56
This game want to do too many things, no one asked for rally cross and ice tracks in this game

I know quite a lot of people who disagree with you...

Tank621
28-09-2017, 19:01
GT3- we have nearly all current factory built cars
GT1- is based off 1998 we have all the cars
BTCC- lisencing is a b****
V8 Supercars- that's probably the same
TCR- New cars are always more expensive

Tbh I'd buy that car/tracklist as a standalone game, it looks great

BiffyClyro88
28-09-2017, 19:08
I know quite a lot of people who disagree with you...

Think about this i'm just saying that pc2 without kart tracks, rally cross tracks, ice tracks and their cars would be better more awesome and with more resources to work on more tracks like interlagos, macao, singapore, mont tremblant, montreal, adelaide and many many others with different cars too

RoccoTTS
28-09-2017, 19:16
Think about this i'm just saying that pc2 without kart tracks, rally cross tracks, ice tracks and their cars would be better more awesome and with more resources to work on more tracks like interlagos, macao, singapore, mont tremblant, montreal, adelaide and many many others with different cars too

I don't agree, i already had good fun on these rallycross tracks.

cunningham85
28-09-2017, 19:20
Shame there is no tin tops (BTCC, TCR, V8's) going by the details I only want the first one mottorsport I think?

KANETAKER
28-09-2017, 19:30
I have mixed feelings about this so-called list of future content (to confirm or disprove). On the one hand I am glad to see that apparently they listened to those who asked for the cars GTE and LMP1 that they lacked of a certain mark. But on the other hand a disappointment that they still can not get the licenses of some good race cars, as for example: Peugeot 908 LMP1, the DPi of the IMSA Series (Cadillac, Nissan, Mazda), the Oreca 05/07 LMP2, and the Mazda 787b of the Group C.

As for the circuits, I still think that 4 new circuits is still very little, ideally it would be possible to have 8 or 10 new circuits, since they are being left out several that are well known and in some cases classic in other similar games (like Sebrings, Paul Riccard, Road Atlanta, Jerez).


No no i can't believe it if these rumors will be true it's a disaster.. so dlc cars are just tons of porsche and ferrari with some rallycross and off road trucks??! Really? Wow
What about more touring cars modern and old? What about the new TCR series with all brand new cars? More Aussie v8? More gt3/gt1 cars modern and vintage? BTCC cars? i won't never preorder a PC game with season pass in future...
If i want rallycross i buy DIRT 4!
This game want to do too many things, no one asked for rally cross and ice tracks in this game

I think all this is due to licensing and contract issues, which are apparently bound to meet them. Just as in the PCars1 many players complained because most of the new cars for DLC were not race cars, but mostly street/stock cars.

cxMilk
28-09-2017, 20:07
As for the circuits, I still think that 4 new circuits is still very little, ideally it would be possible to have 8 or 10 new circuits, since they are being left out several that are well known and in some cases classic in other similar games (like Sebrings, Paul Riccard, Road Atlanta, Jerez).
Good grief. In addition to every circuit from pCars1 returning, with the exception of the full Mojave layout, we got a healthy injection of new circuits as well. The roster jumped from 36 locations with 100 unique strings to 53 locations with 145 unique strings.*

Also, aren't we getting six new locations, not four? Don't two of the planned dlc's come with two locations a piece? If you ask me, SMS went above and beyond giving us new pieces of tarmac to run on. Sure, we all have personal likes we'd like to see in the game, but as it stands, I know the current track roster is going to keep me busy for a long time to come.

*My list skills may not be as boss as breyzipp's so the numbers may vary by a small amount. Not to mention, I bundled historics into their proper locations and the like.

maTech
28-09-2017, 20:16
I am feeling overwhelmed with all these cars and tracks we got till now (I can't decide which one I want to drive at first) and after one week some people are complaining about the content that we perhaps get with dlcs? I hope I am not the only one who is happy with that what we got till now :rolleyes:

Konan
28-09-2017, 20:27
I certainly am...:cool:

breyzipp
28-09-2017, 20:41
I have mixed feelings about this so-called list of future content (to confirm or disprove). On the one hand I am glad to see that apparently they listened to those who asked for the cars GTE and LMP1 that they lacked of a certain mark. But on the other hand a disappointment that they still can not get the licenses of some good race cars, as for example: Peugeot 908 LMP1, the DPi of the IMSA Series (Cadillac, Nissan, Mazda), the Oreca 05/07 LMP2, and the Mazda 787b of the Group C.

As for the circuits, I still think that 4 new circuits is still very little, ideally it would be possible to have 8 or 10 new circuits, since they are being left out several that are well known and in some cases classic in other similar games (like Sebrings, Paul Riccard, Road Atlanta, Jerez).



I think all this is due to licensing and contract issues, which are apparently bound to meet them. Just as in the PCars1 many players complained because most of the new cars for DLC were not race cars, but mostly street/stock cars.

You know... I completely fail to understand this reply in any possible way. When I first went through that leaked list seeing all three 2016 LMP1-H cars listed I had to think about you and all your dozens of repetitive forum posts asking for the newer LMP1 cars. I was thinking, man Kanetaker must be jumping through the roof from happiness and excitement now, this is like his perfect wishlist with all 3 LMP1 contenders in their final competitive year being represented. This is the year with the heartbreaking Toyota problems 6 minutes before the race end that will be remembered and talked about for decades. With Audi gone for 2017 and Porsche as well for 2018 that 2016 year will probably go down in history as the final competitive LMP1-H year with an epic ending for Le Mans.
Now I come here to the forum seeing you have "mixed feelings" about this list. You are "glad" (I repeat: glad. That's not overjoyed, that's not hyped, that's not hysterical, that's not overwhelmed, that's .... just... glad) that they are in the game and you are also disappointed "that they still can not get the licenses of some good race cars". Are you serious??? I could go on about this but it would be borderline to getting personal and I don't want to insult you or anything, god knows why each of us hang around on these forums, I'm sure we all have our story, for some it might be pure sim racing enthusiasm, for others it might be an escape away from problems in real life. But I sincerely hope PCARS 2 is the only thing in your life you have such a sad and depressive attitude towards. Try to focus on the great things in life that make you happy, be it the real world or in the virtual one. Be positive, be happy, irradiate that towards people and you will get it back in return as well.

Raklodder
28-09-2017, 21:27
This game want to do too many things, no one asked for rally cross and ice tracks in this game
As a rally fan I really enjoy having both rallycross and snow tracks in the game, but yeah, it would have been nice if the AI was up to the task or at least tried to win.

KANETAKER
28-09-2017, 22:44
You know... I completely fail to understand this reply in any possible way. When I first went through that leaked list seeing all three 2016 LMP1-H cars listed I had to think about you and all your dozens of repetitive forum posts asking for the newer LMP1 cars. I was thinking, man Kanetaker must be jumping through the roof from happiness and excitement now, this is like his perfect wishlist with all 3 LMP1 contenders in their final competitive year being represented. This is the year with the heartbreaking Toyota problems 6 minutes before the race end that will be remembered and talked about for decades. With Audi gone for 2017 and Porsche as well for 2018 that 2016 year will probably go down in history as the final competitive LMP1-H year with an epic ending for Le Mans.
Now I come here to the forum seeing you have "mixed feelings" about this list. You are "glad" (I repeat: glad. That's not overjoyed, that's not hyped, that's not hysterical, that's not overwhelmed, that's .... just... glad) that they are in the game and you are also disappointed "that they still can not get the licenses of some good race cars". Are you serious??? I could go on about this but it would be borderline to getting personal and I don't want to insult you or anything, god knows why each of us hang around on these forums, I'm sure we all have our story, for some it might be pure sim racing enthusiasm, for others it might be an escape away from problems in real life. But I sincerely hope PCARS 2 is the only thing in your life you have such a sad and depressive attitude towards. Try to focus on the great things in life that make you happy, be it the real world or in the virtual one. Be positive, be happy, irradiate that towards people and you will get it back in return as well.

My comment has to do with the fact that on the one hand I am very happy to finally include 3 of the LMP1-H that I expected to see (together with the last GTE remaining), but on the other hand I miss other cars for other categories (LMP2, DPi, LMP1-L, Modern DTM, 90's - 2000 F1 cars, and Group C), as well as the theme of the tracks.

In short: "It was not perfect as I expected but .. I'm partly satisfied".


What surprises me most is the case of the Mazda 787b that is present in all other racing games like FM, AC, GTS, RF (apparently has no exclusivity contract) except in PCars ... despite the request of many fans, and considering that in the game is the Mazda RadBull .. although I think that if a vote were made to choose between the RadBull and the 787b, would end up winning the 787b by wide margin.

Tank621
28-09-2017, 23:37
The 787B is two years newer than any of the other Group Cs we have, it doesn't really make much sense to have it
As for liscensing, the RadBull is the only Mazda we have- there is probably a reason for that,
I think the lisensing for the RadBull probably had very little to with Mazda themselves

KANETAKER
29-09-2017, 04:22
The 787B is two years newer than any of the other Group Cs we have, it doesn't really make much sense to have it
As for liscensing, the RadBull is the only Mazda we have- there is probably a reason for that,
I think the lisensing for the RadBull probably had very little to with Mazda themselves

The 787b is the newest but not the fastest Group C car. The only advantage that car had against its rivals was its great mechanical reliability even using an aggressive set-up to squeeze the car beyond its mechanical resistance, which was why it was able to win the 1991 edition of Le Mans. Thus, while rivals were forced to slow down to preserve the mechanics of their cars, the 787B's rotary engine was able to withstand a sprint pace throughout the 24-hour race. However, in short runs (less than 12 hours), the other cars were clearly much faster, so that should be compensated for the fact that there is a 1991 Group C car competing against other cars Group C of the 80's. Considering that most online races both public and private championships usually do not exceed more than 4 hours, then there should not be much advantage for the 787b.

On the other hand, if you say that because of the difference of years (and performance) between the 787b with respect to the other Group C cars is a reason why they can not put that car in the game, then how does it explain that they do go to put the 3 LMP1 cars of the 2016 season? (in case of being confirmed that supposed list of new cars). Since in theory the LMP1 of 2016 must be faster than the 2 LMP1 of 2014 available in the game. All this contradicts this argument against the 787b.

PD: It is likely that the Mazda Red Bull was cheaper to get, but it is not a car that the vast majority of fans asked to see inside the game in that post called "What cars do you want to see in-game?". In addition, I see that I am not the only person who has this opinion, regarding the fact that many asked for certain cars and tracks, and instead we end up offering totally different things and almost nobody asked:


No no i can't believe it if these rumors will be true it's a disaster.. so dlc cars are just tons of porsche and ferrari with some rallycross and off road trucks??! Really? Wow
What about more touring cars modern and old? What about the new TCR series with all brand new cars? More Aussie v8? More gt3/gt1 cars modern and vintage? BTCC cars? If i want rallycross i buy DIRT 4!
This game want to do too many things, no one asked for rally cross and ice tracks in this game

Cheesenium
29-09-2017, 06:28
I am feeling overwhelmed with all these cars and tracks we got till now (I can't decide which one I want to drive at first) and after one week some people are complaining about the content that we perhaps get with dlcs? I hope I am not the only one who is happy with that what we got till now :rolleyes:

After 2 years plus of playing Pcars 2 dev build, I am still scratching the surface of what's offered in the game. i think I am still quite bad at some of the rarely appeared tracks in other games like Sugo or Fuji.

I am quite happy with the DLCs so far based on what leaked at the moment. I do feel that it is a bit too many Porsche and Ferrari, despite the cars they picked are utterly fantastic cars. I just hope that there would be more TCR, GT4 and other brands like Cadillac, Chervolet and so on with little cars in the game.

Personally, I quite enjoyed RX. On tarmac tracks as they felt like F1 engines in small hatches with barely any top speed.

Cheesenium
29-09-2017, 06:46
The 787b is the newest but not the fastest Group C car. The only advantage that car had against its rivals was its great mechanical reliability even using an aggressive set-up to squeeze the car beyond its mechanical resistance, which was why it was able to win the 1991 edition of Le Mans. Thus, while rivals were forced to slow down to preserve the mechanics of their cars, the 787B's rotary engine was able to withstand a sprint pace throughout the 24-hour race. However, in short runs (less than 12 hours), the other cars were clearly much faster, so that should be compensated for the fact that there is a 1991 Group C car competing against other cars Group C of the 80's. Considering that most online races both public and private championships usually do not exceed more than 4 hours, then there should not be much advantage for the 787b.

On the other hand, if you say that because of the difference of years (and performance) between the 787b with respect to the other Group C cars is a reason why they can not put that car in the game, then how does it explain that they do go to put the 3 LMP1 cars of the 2016 season? (in case of being confirmed that supposed list of new cars). Since in theory the LMP1 of 2016 must be faster than the 2 LMP1 of 2014 available in the game. All this contradicts this argument against the 787b.

PD: It is likely that the Mazda Red Bull was cheaper to get, but it is not a car that the vast majority of fans asked to see inside the game in that post called "What cars do you want to see in-game?". In addition, I see that I am not the only person who has this opinion, regarding the fact that many asked for certain cars and tracks, and instead we end up offering totally different things and almost nobody asked:

You got your new LMP1s and yet it is not enough. And whatever is known at the moment, that is not even the full list of DLC cars as DLC is probably still months away.

Personally, I think 787B is not suitable for the current crop of Group C. It might need the last few Group Cs to go with it. The 787B pretty much destroys the C9 and the 962C in AC, despite it is only a few years newer than the 2. Kunos does not do any BoP towards the cars so it is pretty much raw data they got from manufacturers.

And personally, I am not sure if SMS has the full Mazda license as if they do, it does not make any sense for them to sit on the license and did not get any other Mazda cars. We would have some Mazda road cars or race cars by now then. And knowing how well SMS knows about racing, if it is doable and suitable, they would had done it by now without you asking for it as they know the cars from past and present very very well.

BiffyClyro88
29-09-2017, 08:29
to be honest i'm happy with all the new cars and tracks added in pc2 but I would also say this, every racing games have announced the same dlc packs dont forget it like forzam6 or assetto corsa they come with ferrari car pack and porsche car pack my goodness, looks like software houses have the same dlc ideas why? Just Lazy behavior or simply the always license issues?
If i was the boss i would think to bring in the game just racing cars where are legends like Alfa romeo DTM1994 ALFA romeo 156/159 touring car
NEW TCR with audi, seat, alfa romeo giulietta, wolkswagen, honda
WTCC chevrolet, volvo, citroen, honda
BTCC ford focus, bmw 1 series, honda, toyota avensis, proton, MG, vauxhall insignia
Old GT2 with ferrari and many others
Old japanese GT CARS FROM 1998 like nissan toyota mazda honda that we saw first time in gran turismo 1998
V8 Aussie volvo, holden, mercedes, nissan
Modern GT3 jaguar, dodge viper, lexus, subaru
GT4 maserati
We miss most of the japanese GT
Why in pc2 mercedes DTM has been erased from game? We got it in pc1
This is an awesome dlc cars list but you stick with your road cars and rallycross as you wish have fun!

Tank621
29-09-2017, 08:44
I think the Merc DTM is gone because licensing meant that nothing could be done with the car in terms of liveries or any integration into career. And for all we know the licensing may have only applied to the first game and it was decided that it wasn't worth the costs to do it again because of the limitations on how they could use it in the game. I too am sad to see it gone but I can understand that from a business perspective it probably wasn't worth the effort when there are many other cars that could be fully integrated into all aspects of the game.

Cheesenium
29-09-2017, 09:27
every racing games have announced the same dlc packs dont forget it like forzam6 or assetto corsa they come with ferrari car pack and porsche car pack my goodness, looks like software houses have the same dlc ideas why? Just Lazy behavior or simply the always license issues?


Because Ferrari and Porsches have a very treasured and varied history that spans almost a century. These 2 brands have plenty of interesting cars developers can bring into the game. Heck, even look at the Porsche and Ferrari packs in AC with what we know in Pcars 2, there are still quite a fair bit of variety between the vehicles chosen.

I think it is also partly the hype of having these cars in games like AC and Pcars but I think it is sort of ok.

OddTimer
29-09-2017, 09:32
there is so much in the base game for me to dive in that dlc is the least of my worries lol

foolinjection
29-09-2017, 09:40
every racing games have announced the same dlc packs dont forget it like forzam6 or assetto corsa they come with ferrari car pack and porsche car pack my goodness, looks like software houses have the same dlc ideas why? Just Lazy behavior or simply the always license issues?

You have to remember here as well that apart from a few officially licensed titles over the years, Ferrari and Porsche were absent from most racing games. You'll remember most racing games got around the Porsche issue by getting a licence for RUF cars, a marque I'd never even heard off before the likes of Gran Turismo introduced me to it.

I think it's just a case of developers wanting to have these cars in the stable now as, as other have said here, they have a long and rich history of awesome machinery to pick though.

I can see why some people would be put off by a rake of Porkers and Fezzas though in line with other titles. I mean I'm a lover of old J-Tin and 90's Touring cars. I'd give my eye teeth for an N2 Toyota AE86 for example.

BiffyClyro88
29-09-2017, 10:34
there is so much in the base game for me to dive in that dlc is the least of my worries lol

No the point is that some people already bought the version with season pass and it's a fact to be worried about DLC because you know money doesn't grows on trees and would be disappointing to hear that these rumors now on dlc content maybe months later true.... let's hope that something will change to appease everyone's taste and not only road tracks and rallycross... i don't think i'm saying something wrong

maTech
29-09-2017, 11:02
I remember a time when some people complained about missing porsche and ferrari licenses and now some people complain that we get them. I don't understand this world anymore.

foolinjection
29-09-2017, 11:12
No the point is that some people already bought the version with season pass and it's a fact to be worried about DLC because you know money doesn't grows on trees and would be disappointing to hear that these rumors now on dlc content maybe months later true.... let's hope that something will change to appease everyone's taste and not only road tracks and rallycross... i don't think i'm saying something wrong

I don't think your argument is totally invalid or anything and don't take this the wrong way but... if what DLC might be included in the Season Pass was a worry you could have just as easily bought the version without the Season Pass and then bought the DLC you did want a-la-carte as it's revealed/released. Then you get to see what comes out and either tuck in or pass on it. Okay you then take the gamble on if it's all DLC you want, you'll pay more in the long run... but you aren't then locked into this scenario where you've paid for something you don't want.

Tank621
29-09-2017, 11:32
The Porsche 917/10 should excite quite a few people, Can-Am cars have been highly requested

OddTimer
29-09-2017, 11:40
well, I bought the game with the season pass, without knowing what dlc content was. If you are willing to buy DLC which has not been announced yet, you have to assume that whatever comes will add value to the game...buy something without knowing it is but expecting it to be something you have in mind in insanity.

Dbr9lemans
29-09-2017, 12:28
to be honest i'm happy with all the new cars and tracks added in pc2 but I would also say this, every racing games have announced the same dlc packs dont forget it like forzam6 or assetto corsa they come with ferrari car pack and porsche car pack my goodness, looks like software houses have the same dlc ideas why? Just Lazy behavior or simply the always license issues?
If i was the boss i would think to bring in the game just racing cars where are legends like Alfa romeo DTM1994 ALFA romeo 156/159 touring car
NEW TCR with audi, seat, alfa romeo giulietta, wolkswagen, honda
WTCC chevrolet, volvo, citroen, honda
BTCC ford focus, bmw 1 series, honda, toyota avensis, proton, MG, vauxhall insignia
Old GT2 with ferrari and many others
Old japanese GT CARS FROM 1998 like nissan toyota mazda honda that we saw first time in gran turismo 1998
V8 Aussie volvo, holden, mercedes, nissan
Modern GT3 jaguar, dodge viper, lexus, subaru
GT4 maserati
We miss most of the japanese GT
Why in pc2 mercedes DTM has been erased from game? We got it in pc1
This is an awesome dlc cars list but you stick with your road cars and rallycross as you wish have fun!

The WTCC and DTM licenses are exclusive to RaceRoom / Sector 3. SMS nearly licensed the V8 Supercars but V8SC mgmt wanted more Aussie tracks in the game. BTCC is stuck in licensing hell because of an exclusive they signed years ago that never required the licensor to actually produce a game.

Can't disagree with on you 90s Japanese GT cars though ;)

Tank621
29-09-2017, 12:36
I think the issue with Supercars is that there aren't any scans of most of the tracks and so SMS would have to do the lot themselves. Which would be very expensive for a relatively small scale company based on the other side of the world

Invincible
29-09-2017, 12:58
I think the issue with Supercars is that there aren't any scans of most of the tracks and so SMS would have to do the lot themselves. Which would be very expensive for a relatively small scale company based on the other side of the world

Yes. To acquire the V8SC license, they would have to include every track of the championship. So they would have to send a whole team down under to scan every track. These costs alone are immense. But even more though the sheer workload SMS would have actually modelling the tracks after they have been scanned.
If I recall correctly, Ian said in the livestream with Ozzie, that the costs were too high, even if they would make it a standalone game.

RacingAtHome
29-09-2017, 13:05
The WTCC and DTM licenses are exclusive to RaceRoom / Sector 3. SMS nearly licensed the V8 Supercars but V8SC mgmt wanted more Aussie tracks in the game. BTCC is stuck in licensing hell because of an exclusive they signed years ago that never required the licensor to actually produce a game.

Can't disagree with on you 90s Japanese GT cars though ;)

Actually, regarding BTCC, Alan Gow actually commented on this and it's not because of that.

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/tin-tops/alan-gow-podcast-association-mercedes-benz


If a games producer came to me and aid “we want to produce a game and produce a great BTCC game” I’ll sign up, but the problem is they won’t at the moment because they’re do expensive to do.

Tank621
29-09-2017, 13:10
I've always wondered why track owners don't do their own scans and just sell copies to developers, seems good for both sides

vassalfada
29-09-2017, 13:17
Some are doing it, but things are usually not so simple ;)

RacingAtHome
29-09-2017, 13:20
I've always wondered why track owners don't do their own scans and just sell copies to developers, seems good for both sides

Money money money.

foolinjection
29-09-2017, 13:23
I've always wondered why track owners don't do their own scans and just sell copies to developers, seems good for both sides

It's probably too expensive in the begining for circuits to have a 3D scan of the track done... and to what end? They would have to then put it into some kind of simulator at the circuit to get any tangible use out of it. Maybe so people could sim race the track virtually at the actual circuit... for a fee of course. Which is kind of counter intuitive as I'm sure most circuits would rather you went there and did an experience day or a track day in an actual car and charge you for that.

I can't imagine what kind of money it takes to maintain a racing circuit but when you look at the likes of the German F1 Grand Prix, which had to go 50/50 between Hockenheim and Nurburgring as they couldn't afford to pay Formula 1 the money to come race there, it must cost a fair bit if they are struggling to run them at or near any kind of profit. I don't know if all championships run the same way as F1 does in regards to circuit selection but basically it seems the circuit is relying on paying big money for a championship to come race there and hoping its enough of a draw to recoup the money they spent setting it up back through ticket sales and concessions.

Gethema
29-09-2017, 16:10
On the topic of DLC, what I'd really love to see besides cars and tracks (which are of course always welcome) is a high resolution pack, ideally encompassing either pumped up and slightly less repetitive track/road surface textures as well as more detailed car skins/liveries.

Especially on an Ultra HD Screen, you really learn to appreciate true high res assets, with lower quality ones tending to stand out even more. I know that this would certainly come at a price, with increased VRAM usage and potentially huge download sizes (looking at you, Forza Motorsport 7) only to mention the more obvious, but I think it will definitely help pushing the game to another level (visually that is).

Personally, I'd gladly be willing to pay for it too, knowing that developing high quality assets usually requires a lot of work and time (especially when made from scratch) and I think this should not go unrewarded in case SMS decides to go the extra mile.

Apart from the odd first/third person shooter game, Grid Autosport springs to mind as an example of a racing game that has received a high resolution pack after release. Eventually also the launch of the Xbox One X may help in deciding in favor of e.g. adopting a similar strategy used in FM7, where the souped-up device will get higher res assets/textures compared to the base version.

Scuderia Paul
29-09-2017, 16:24
I've always wondered why track owners don't do their own scans and just sell copies to developers, seems good for both sides
Nurburgring did that. As far as I remember they have a clause in licensing where if you wish to feature a laser scanned version of the circuit you must use their data. It would be beneficial to Nurburgring to do so because they would not have to close Nordschleife to accommodate a developer team which would mean tourists are not paying to drive. They have probably more than covered the costs now. They have a pretty unique set-up though.

RacingAtHome
29-09-2017, 16:53
Nurburgring did that. As far as I remember they have a clause in licensing where if you wish to feature a laser scanned version of the circuit you must use their data. It would be beneficial to Nurburgring to do so because they would not to close Nordschleife to accommodate a developer team which would mean tourists are not paying to drive. They have probably more than covered the costs now. They have a pretty unique set-up though.

You'd think it would be similar to the Le Mans circuit in a sense as the Mulsanne is literally a public road and it would cost a lot to close it for a few days-weeks.

Dbr9lemans
30-09-2017, 00:01
Actually, regarding BTCC, Alan Gow actually commented on this and it's not because of that.

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/tin-tops/alan-gow-podcast-association-mercedes-benz

Ok. Your Gow quote is more recent than my information. It was about 4-5 years ago he commented about returning to the job, wanting to do a BTCC game and then finding out they'd signed this arrangement (presumably with EA). It must have lapsed.

Dbr9lemans
30-09-2017, 00:13
Well as a quick run down of everything we have evidence for so far:

Tracks

Interlagos
Mugello
Fiorano
Classic Le Mans
Brands Hatch RX (I am still a bit sceptical about this one)

Cars

Audi
Audi S1 Eks (Rallycross)
Audi Sport Quattro S1(Group B Rallycross)
Audi R18 e-tron quattro (2016) (LMP1)

Citroen
Citroen DS3 (Rallycross)

Ferrari
Ferrari FXX K
Ferrari F12tdf
Ferrari 488 Challenge (Ferrari Challenge)
Ferrari 250 Testarossa
Ferrari 458 Speciale Aperta
Ferrari 512 BB LM (Group 5)
Ferrari F355 Challenge (Classic Ferrari Challenge)

Ford
Ford Bronco RTR (Off Road Trucks)
Ford Bronco Brocky (Off Road Trucks)
(Presumably the same)

Porsche
Porsche 961(GTO or Group 5)
Porsche 991 RSR (GTE)
Porsche Carrera GT
Porsche 917 Langheck (Vintage Prototype A)
Porsche 908/03 (Vintage Prototype A)
Porsche 917/10 (Vintage Prototype A)
Porsche 917K (Vintage Prototype A)
Porsche 935/78 (Group 5)
Porsche 959 S
Porsche 919 Hybrid (LMP1)

Toyota
Toyota TS050 Hybrid (LMP1)

SMS
SMS RWD Dunester

I'm going out on a limb here but I'm doubtful we'll see the Porsche 935/78 as DLC because we already have two versions of it in the main game. I also think we won't see anymore off road trucks for the same reason we're likely not to see Daytona Beach; being SMS are waiting to develop deformable surfaces which will probably be in PC3. The third DLC pack will be "Le Mans Icons" or "Le Mans Legends". In the list above there are 7-8 cars which have raced at Le Mans; so this might be the suite; though I'd be surprised if they did not include the Ferrari 512M and Porsche 911 RSR from the 1970s which were be more fitting a "Legends" pack than any of the contemporary P1s or GTE Porsche.

Tank621
30-09-2017, 11:47
I would have said the same about the 935/78 but I believe that the 78 was the version specifcially designed for Le Mans so it seems like there is a good reason for it to be included

Dbr9lemans
30-09-2017, 12:33
I would have said the same about the 935/78 but I believe that the 78 was the version specifcially designed for Le Mans so it seems like there is a good reason for it to be included

Fair point.

There's ten Porsches in the list above. We know that eight cars will be in each pack. Two Porsches for a Le Mans legends pack would be too few. Similarly, including 6-7 Le Mans Porsches in the dedicated Porsche pack seems too much. There's bound to be more Porsches that we don't know about.

Ditto the Ferraris. Seven in the list above.

Tank621
30-09-2017, 13:33
By my reckoning there are 7 Porsches in that list that have competed at Le Mans but of those I'd say only the 917 LH and 935/78 were specifically built for Le Mans

Audi75
30-09-2017, 13:47
It's probably too expensive in the begining for circuits to have a 3D scan of the track done... and to what end? They would have to then put it into some kind of simulator at the circuit to get any tangible use out of it. Maybe so people could sim race the track virtually at the actual circuit... for a fee of course. Which is kind of counter intuitive as I'm sure most circuits would rather you went there and did an experience day or a track day in an actual car and charge you for that.

I can't imagine what kind of money it takes to maintain a racing circuit but when you look at the likes of the German F1 Grand Prix, which had to go 50/50 between Hockenheim and Nurburgring as they couldn't afford to pay Formula 1 the money to come race there, it must cost a fair bit if they are struggling to run them at or near any kind of profit. I don't know if all championships run the same way as F1 does in regards to circuit selection but basically it seems the circuit is relying on paying big money for a championship to come race there and hoping its enough of a draw to recoup the money they spent setting it up back through ticket sales and concessions.

To be quite honest, laser scanning in itself isn't that expensive. In my work we use it all the time, I would say a cost of 20 to 30 grand for point cloud would be reasonable. What is cost consuming is converting the point cloud into a working 3d model.

Cheers

vassalfada
02-10-2017, 15:37
Yum yum yum :cool:

https://www.gtplanet.net/content-leak-reveals-new-porsches-project-cars-2/

Now, if the 1972 Ferrari 312 PB could make it , along with the 1973 Coda Lunga LM version, that would be awesome !

RoccoTTS
02-10-2017, 15:46
Yum yum yum :cool:

https://www.gtplanet.net/content-leak-reveals-new-porsches-project-cars-2/

Now, if the 1972 Ferrari 312 PB could make it , along with the 1973 Coda Lunga LM version, that would be awesome !

I really like those Porsches :cool:

RacingAtHome
02-10-2017, 15:48
Ok. Your Gow quote is more recent than my information. It was about 4-5 years ago he commented about returning to the job, wanting to do a BTCC game and then finding out they'd signed this arrangement (presumably with EA). It must have lapsed.

I had thought about the same thing until I saw that as well.

Terrell Olvera
04-10-2017, 01:42
The beauty of the 917/10 is that is opens the door for a new class! SMS has always been good about having 2 or 3 cars per class. Obvious partner would be a McLaren M20, which would again open the door to the M6 and the early Can-Am cars like the Lolas and Chaparrals. Add Riverside too, it is an important track in American racing history.

vassalfada
04-10-2017, 05:49
Well, the 917/10 raced as much (if not more) in Interserie as in Can-Am, so it might not bring more Can-Am content.

Although, I wouldn't say no to some Can-Am cars and tracks ! :D

Tank621
04-10-2017, 07:43
I wouldn't think they would make a seperate class for the 917/10, when it did actually race against the 917K irl in interserie but I guess we will have to wait and see. That is of course depending on whether or not it's added as we can't actually guarantee that any of these cars will be added without official confirmation.

Dbr9lemans
04-10-2017, 08:33
The beauty of the 917/10 is that is opens the door for a new class! SMS has always been good about having 2 or 3 cars per class. Obvious partner would be a McLaren M20, which would again open the door to the M6 and the early Can-Am cars like the Lolas and Chaparrals. Add Riverside too, it is an important track in American racing history.

Not sure they'll open a new class. The announced DLC packages don't seem to leave much room for other can-am cars to be added. I also think I read somewhere awhile ago that they had maxed out the number of classes they could have in the game.

Cheesenium
04-10-2017, 10:05
Not sure they'll open a new class. The announced DLC packages don't seem to leave much room for other can-am cars to be added. I also think I read somewhere awhile ago that they had maxed out the number of classes they could have in the game.

That is probably why the Raptor is in Road G with the road cars.

Terrell Olvera
05-10-2017, 04:24
I forgot about Interserie! Oh well, one can dream...

Tank621
05-10-2017, 08:49
Well either way the 917/10 will probably be my first time driving a 70s Can-Am racecar in a game, I can't actually think of any other games that have them off the top of my head apart from Forza but those are all from the 60s

Tank621
05-10-2017, 09:55
And the vintage Porsche prototypes are in the same year range as many of the Vintage GT and Touring Cars so that will be great for historic multiclass racing

snipeme77
05-10-2017, 11:06
Not sure they'll open a new class. The announced DLC packages don't seem to leave much room for other can-am cars to be added. I also think I read somewhere awhile ago that they had maxed out the number of classes they could have in the game.

I mean, the 488 challenge is in it's own class and there still a Vintage Prototype A, and Offroad Truck Rallycross class to come? They probably ran out of room to ship the game on launch day, but now I'm sure they could add a couple more... Hints the rumors of the Funhaver being moved to race with other SUV's and trucks.

whip
05-10-2017, 11:07
i would love to see racing trucks (lorries) in the game

JoshTheGeologist
05-10-2017, 12:04
Must admit I'm a little disappointed in the lack of manufacturer variety in the dlcs. I definitely wanted to see more than just Porsche and Ferrari.

I wanted to see some Dodge, and more IMSA cars (ie Cadillac DPi, The Delta Wing from a couple of years ago, Daytona Prototypes)

Scuderia Paul
05-10-2017, 12:27
I would love to see racing trucks (lorries) in the game.

I too would love to see a racing truck. The only time I ever got to try one was in ToCA Race Driver 3 about 1million years ago.

rosko
05-10-2017, 12:31
I mean, the 488 challenge is in it's own class and there still a Vintage Prototype A, and Offroad Truck Rallycross class to come? They probably ran out of room to ship the game on launch day, but now I'm sure they could add a couple more... Hints the rumors of the Funhaver being moved to race with other SUV's and trucks.

this would make complete sense.

Trooper117
05-10-2017, 15:07
Flesh out the 60's Grand Prix cars and tracks would float my boat... Can you imagine GPL but with all the physics, attributes, and graphics etc of PCars2 :)

Tank621
05-10-2017, 16:33
Flesh out the 60's Grand Prix cars and tracks would float my boat... Can you imagine GPL but with all the physics, attributes, and graphics etc of PCars2 :)

I literally play the 60s GP classes just to watch the suspension work, it's hypnotic

eracerhead
05-10-2017, 16:44
I wanted to see some Dodge, and more IMSA cars (ie Cadillac DPi, The Delta Wing from a couple of years ago, Daytona Prototypes)

Seeing as though the rights to the DeltaWing design is a legal nightmare in real life, there's practically zero chance you'll see it in any game ever.

Scuderia Paul
05-10-2017, 17:44
We will have this bad boy in 7-8 months. I cannot survive that long knowing it is out there in GT Sport...


241959

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3800racingfool
05-10-2017, 18:08
We hope we will have this bad boy in 7-8 months. I cannot survive that long knowing it is out there in GT Sport...

*pics*



FTFY. Remember, until it's official, it's not happening.

foolinjection
05-10-2017, 18:25
FTFY. Remember, until it's official, it's not happening.

Even more so with Toyota's considering there aren't ANY in the recent Forza 7 game. Seems they might be shying away from having there cars in racing games all of a sudden.

Scuderia Paul
05-10-2017, 18:46
FTFY. Remember, until it's official, it's not happening.


Even more so with Toyotas considering there aren't ANY in the recent Forza 7 game. Seems they might be shying away from having there cars in racing games all of a sudden.
Unless SMS decide to not use the TS050 they successfully licenced...

#InsideInformation
;)

3800racingfool
05-10-2017, 19:40
Unless SMS decide to not use the TS050 they successfully licenced...

#InsideInformation
;)

License != guarantee. IIRC, there's been one or more vehicles dating back to the first game that were licensed, but never made it into the game.

Tank621
05-10-2017, 21:38
License != guarantee. IIRC, there's been one or more vehicles dating back to the first game that were licensed, but never made it into the game.

I can think of at least 2 that didn't make it in to the 1st game or the 2nd

BigDad
05-10-2017, 23:53
As per first post :
Tracks

Interlagos
Mugello (Ferrari)
Fiorano (Ferrari)
Classic Le Mans (Le Mans Icons)
Brands Hatch RX (I am still a bit sceptical about this one)

Is this it for tracks :(
With the quality and popularity of LongBeach i really hope we can get more Street circuits, Sebring, Adelaide and Albert Park just to name a few.
Please, please, please....

Cheesenium
06-10-2017, 02:05
License != guarantee. IIRC, there's been one or more vehicles dating back to the first game that were licensed, but never made it into the game.

There is at least one car that was cancelled after it was licensed in Pcars 2 due to absolutely no data. I am still a bit disappointed over it but I think its unavoidable.

RacingAtHome
06-10-2017, 06:38
There is at least one car that was cancelled after it was licensed in Pcars 2 due to absolutely no data. I am still a bit disappointed over it but I think its unavoidable.

I know this happened for the Renault Laguna in PC1. Interested in what this would be.

RoccoTTS
06-10-2017, 07:02
As per first post :
Tracks

Interlagos
Mugello (Ferrari)
Fiorano (Ferrari)
Classic Le Mans (Le Mans Icons)
Brands Hatch RX (I am still a bit sceptical about this one)

Is this it for tracks :(
With the quality and popularity of LongBeach i really hope we can get more Street circuits, Sebring, Adelaide and Albert Park just to name a few.
Please, please, please....

Just look at the tracklist of GT Sport (only 8 real life tracks) and AC (only 15 real life tracks) and Forza 7 (only 26 real life tracks) and then come back to PC2 and realize it has 44 real life tracks not even including the RX tracks and the dlc tracks.