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aredfox242
22-09-2017, 15:57
When I start the game on my Gefore GTX770 SLI, or no SLI, I start a race or a test session, the game just crashed. Either freezes with a light blue screen; or either reboots my pc...

Anyone else experiencing this?
How can I best get in touch with SMS on this problem?

PC Info:
x2 GeForce GTX 770
Driver version 385.69
Intel Core i7-4770k 3.50ghz
16GB Ram
1920x180x, 60Hz

Siberian Tiger
22-09-2017, 16:02
You are at the right Place here to report...

I assume you are on the Gameready Driver from Yesterday from Nvidia right? If not, please Update.

Reboots does indicate a Hardware Problem... Do you have any Software to keep Track of Temps (with Logging, so you can see it after the reboot)

AVO
22-09-2017, 16:10
Same GPU, same problem.

Another customer with GTX770 is experiencing this issue (I have few posts so I can't add the link but is in this forum session).

Let's hope they patch the game soon.

Morgan Henstridge
22-09-2017, 16:18
What is in the windows event viewer at the time of the crashes?

aredfox242
22-09-2017, 16:28
What is in the windows event viewer at the time of the crashes?

- no application logs found (e.g. no app or system log events that were errors, or warnings)
- running the latest and greatest drive of 21/09/2017 385.69 - GeForce tells me this is the latest one, so...
- Temps are not going up, all other games run fine in high-res, the fans don't even come one, it just freezes, BANG
- even when turning of to medium settings and having decent 60FPS i have stuttering in game on every track; and randomly it will crash

AVO
22-09-2017, 16:30
What is in the windows event viewer at the time of the crashes?

Absolutely NONE beside the one I generate by forcing the system restart 'cause it's frozen.

AVO
22-09-2017, 16:32
All the other games work fine and changing graphic settings in game (or by control panel) has no effect.

Aldo Zampatti
22-09-2017, 16:40
Are you running ANY overclocking (CPU/GPU)? If so, can you try everything stock and again?

It's being reported that sometimes some overclockings can cause the system to freeze running PC2

aredfox242
22-09-2017, 16:41
Are you running ANY overclocking (CPU/GPU)? If so, can you try everything stock and again?

It's being reported that sometimes some overclockings can cause the system to freeze running PC2

- Not in my case, I don't overclock them. Not even with the predelivered apps from the motherboard.

AVO
22-09-2017, 16:44
Are you running ANY overclocking (CPU/GPU)? If so, can you try everything stock and again?

It's being reported that sometimes some overclockings can cause the system to freeze running PC2

Zero overclock.

Winzarten
22-09-2017, 17:38
I'm having the same issue, the computer crashes within 10 minutes of playing. Hard crash, no response - sounds stuck in loop, non-responsive, no signal from the graphic card. The only option is hard reset. There isn't any trace of a cause in evenviewer.
I've tried both fullscreen and windowed mode, haven't made any difference.
I've tried both the new drivers, and the older drivers I was using previously (382.05). Temperature were hovering around 80degrees during the crash. No sign of impeding crash - stable 60Fps into hard crash. Track/Car combo doesn't matter. No OC on the system. All other games (including project cars 1) are working fine.

Specs:
MB: Asus Pro Gaming B150
CPU: i5-6600k
Ram: 16GB
GK: ASUS Nvidia GTX770 DirectCU II OC - 2GB of Vram

I understant this will be hard one to nail down, so if there is any more information I can provide to help you guys, just say the word. ;)

AVO
22-09-2017, 17:45
It’s not hard to nail down.
Pcars 2 is not working on Gtx770...

Siberian Tiger
22-09-2017, 17:53
It’s not hard to nail down.

Wrong...

Nvm.... Forwarded it to the Devs...

aredfox242
22-09-2017, 18:27
Nvm.... Forwarded it to the Devs...
thx for fwd'ing it, really looking forward to playing it. Have the same experience as person described above.
if we can use pcars logs with startup parameters (does it do logging), let us know!

Aldo Zampatti
22-09-2017, 18:30
Anyone with 780 or 750 having similar issues?

I have a 750ti at home that I can try when i get back home in case this is something related to 7xx series.

ShimonART
22-09-2017, 18:30
I have a gigabyte gtx770 oc edition and have no issues, playing for 2.5 hours already with medium settings at 125fps alone on track and no issues.
updated driver aswell.

totopower46
22-09-2017, 18:38
i have gtx 780 and only problem i have is when i pass the pitlane line or the spotter say something the game freeze for 1 second and come back to normal

aredfox242
22-09-2017, 22:14
reports on steam are coming in as well on other cards as well, as on this forum
surely there must be something wrong

Mods; what do you want us to give info?
- Are there any logs the game outputs that we can send?
- As this behaviour is clearly happening on more than just the one card, maybe change the topic title (because I don't have the rights)
- If we can provide any help in terms of data, let us know

Siberian Tiger
22-09-2017, 22:22
Thanks aredfox242 for the helping hand...

We are still investigating this, at the moment i honestly don't know what could help or which Data could help...

We (The Moderator Staff aren't Programmer, so we need first to know what they would like see/know about this Issue)

Aldo Zampatti
23-09-2017, 00:13
God news is that I've tried my 750ti. Bad news is that it just worked (latest NV drivers). Can't get it to fail.

Guys with the issue, how about starting with a clean profile? (Delete the PROJECT CARS 2 folder from Documents)

Morgan Henstridge
23-09-2017, 00:22
Guys with this issue, check the Windows Event Viewer for something like "The nvlddmkm screen driver stopped responding" at the time of the Crashes.

aredfox242
23-09-2017, 05:51
looked but didn't find anything on driver stopped responding in eventvwr :(
I'll try to reinstall as you asked

AVO
23-09-2017, 06:20
The event viewer is clean.

Morgan Henstridge
23-09-2017, 06:31
Is there anything in them at all at the time of the crash??

check the Application Log and System Log.

HLR Ghosty
23-09-2017, 07:09
It’s not hard to nail down.
Pcars 2 is not working on Gtx770...

Only time I had my GTX 770 Windforce crash on pcars 2 was when I overclocked it, turned off the overclock and its running fine. Even after hours of play through the beta phase.

Winzarten
23-09-2017, 09:10
Another observation on the issue. For me the problem didn't stay isolated on pcars 2, after reboot I tried to play Dark Souls 3 and had a crash, in the same matter, withing 10 minutes. One user on steam is experiencing the same behaviour in overwatch and war thunder, but can play Stellaris fine. So it appears to the problem starts to affect any graphics heavy game.

This is what I've done to regain system stability - all at once, so I cannot say what helped
-Clearly reinstall the driver I previosly used
-Shut down the system and unplug from power for 1 minute
-Install MSI afterburner and reset base card settings, in case somehow these settings changed (I haven't touch card setting since I bought the card)

Its looking like it helped, as I've been able to play DS3 for several hours without any issue.

So, for me, it looks like either there is a nasty bug down on the HW, condition of which gets triggered by PCars2 and perservere untill all power is lost and it's memory is wiped clean.
Or, somehow, some settings get forced on the GK which make the card unstable under heavy load (voltage/clocking), which would explain why only some cards are affected, as chip stability varies from chip to chip.

Morgan Henstridge
23-09-2017, 09:29
Just as a test, it would be worth trying an Underclock even from the factory settings, to reduce the load on the card.

If the underclock is stable, then returning to the current speeds may require a touch extra voltage in Afterburner etc.

Winzarten
23-09-2017, 10:03
Might work, but to be honest I'm not touching PCars 2 until the reason is found. It's one thing when a single game is unstable and totally different matter when it starts to affects the general stability of the system.

Br3ss4n
23-09-2017, 11:59
It’s not hard to nail down.
Pcars 2 is not working on Gtx770...

No I have a GTX770 and Pcars2 work fine.

aredfox242
23-09-2017, 12:31
Ok, put some time in this morning.
Fired up FPu-Z for censor logging, here's the result.. Temp = 65.0°c, and limit is 79.0°C - so no pressure there I feel.
Full log (cut it down because otherwise post would be too long, but I can provide the full log if needed):



Date , GPU Core Clock [MHz] , GPU Memory Clock [MHz] , GPU Temperature [°C] , Fan Speed (%) [%] , Fan Speed (RPM) [RPM] , Memory Used [MB] , GPU Load [%] , Memory Controller Load [%] , Video Engine Load [%] , Bus Interface Load [%] , Power Consumption [% TDP] , PerfCap Reason [] , VDDC [V] , 12V [V] , VDDC Current [A] , VDDC Power [W] , VRM Temperature [°C] ,
2017-09-23 11:40:27 , 1162.7 , 1752.8 , 65.0 , 68 , 2310 , 1775 , 70 , 31 , 0 , 6 , 68.4 , 12 , 1.176 , 12.11 , 42.5 , 49.3 , 67 ,
2017-09-23 11:40:28 , 1162.7 , 1752.8 , 64.0 , 68 , 2310 , 1775 , 69 , 31 , 0 , 6 , 68.2 , 12 , 1.176 , 12.09 , 42.5 , 49.8 , 67 ,
2017-09-23 11:40:29 , 1162.7 , 1752.8 , 65.0 , 69 , 2310 , 1775 , 69 , 30 , 0 , 6 , 68.1 , 12 , 1.176 , 12.11 , 41.0 , 48.0 , 67 ,
2017-09-23 11:40:30 , 1162.7 , 1752.8 , 64.0 , 69 , 2340 , 1775 , 62 , 26 , 0 , 5 , 65.5 , 12 , 1.176 , 12.11 , 40.0 , 47.5 , 67 ,
2017-09-23 11:40:31 , 1162.7 , 1752.8 , 65.0 , 69 , 2310 , 1775 , 66 , 28 , 0 , 6 , 66.9 , 12 , 1.176 , 12.09 , 41.0 , 48.0 , 67 ,
2017-09-23 11:40:32 , 1162.7 , 1752.8 , 65.0 , 69 , 2340 , 1775 , 67 , 28 , 0 , 6 , 66.8 , 12 , 1.176 , 12.11 , 40.0 , 46.3 , 67 ,
2017-09-23 11:40:33 , 1162.7 , 1752.8 , 65.0 , 69 , 2310 , 1775 , 67 , 29 , 0 , 6 , 68.3 , 12 , 1.176 , 12.11 , 41.0 , 48.0 , 68 ,


To be complete, system setup is:
x2 GeForce GTX 770
Driver version 385.69 (previous driver has the exact same issues - so I tested both)
Intel Core i7-4770k 3.50ghz
16GB Ram
Windows 10

GPU-Z info:
gtx770 #1
240327
gtx770 #2
240328

Couldn't log anything more, as my PC froze, and rebooted itself. But I did logging on my machine with GPu-Z, hope that gives some more info for the devs.

As for downclocking, I'm not sure, not recommended by the distributor, and I didn't overclock the system either, I don't want to burn my hardware :).

Morgan Henstridge
23-09-2017, 12:52
Didn't realise you were running SLI. Have you tried with that disabled??

AVO
23-09-2017, 12:56
Yes, he did.
See first post.

aredfox242
23-09-2017, 13:10
PS; created a topic on NVidia GeForce as well... FYI, this is happening with F12017 as well. Don't have another game to test atm.
Will roll back to 385.41 (where the F12017 issue did not occur, but PCars did crash)
Will keep you up to date

Link to forum post of NVidia: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1025210/geforce-drivers/driver-385-69-issues-with-pcars2-and-f12017/?offset=2#5217927

AVO
23-09-2017, 13:14
I tested 378.92 and 385.41.
Same story.

aredfox242
23-09-2017, 13:21
PS to DEVS & Users of NVidia, I urge you to maybe fill out this form as well: http://surveys.nvidia.com/index.jsp?pi=6e7ea6bb4a02641fa8f07694a40f8ac6

aredfox242
23-09-2017, 13:28
PS; also happening on 385.41 :( indeed..

aredfox242
23-09-2017, 13:51
PS; also happening on 385.41 :( indeed..

and on 385.28 as well.. all games affected now
this is very strange.. :(
even ran in "debug mode" as nvidia asked me to

AVO
23-09-2017, 14:03
The system has been able to recover from the crash once, so now I have a log of the event:

"The description for Event ID 13 from source nvlddmkm cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.

If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.

The following information was included with the event:

\Device\Video3
Graphics Exception: Shader Program Header 11 Error

the message resource is present but the message is not found in the string/message table"

Greg Redd
23-09-2017, 14:12
I know it's a very, very long shot, but it's all I got... Any chance you are running MSI Afterburner? I had very similar sounding problem with the Forza 7 Demo recently, and for some reason the issue was tracked back to Afterburner. Disabled it and no more issues.

AVO
23-09-2017, 14:14
Enabled, disabled or even unisntalled same story.

Alexease
23-09-2017, 14:30
GTX780 OK. But if saving an garage setting, slowing (medium-freeze:P), than after exit to main menu, giga freeze and HW reset:D

BullWinkle
23-09-2017, 14:34
Check dust filter for power supply if it's mounted at bottom of case.,could be starving for air, heating up. Heatsinks/fans aswell. It may be a PSU issue, especially if there older units. You guys didn't mention your PWR supply make/model.,so thought would just throw this out there. :D

AVO
23-09-2017, 14:36
Fresh Coolermaster 750W, no dust, no temperature issues.
The system works perfecly with AC, rFactor2, GTAV, R3E...

Overclocked, underclocked, debug mode, tested 4 older Nvidia drivers in addition to the actual one, Windows 10 is on the latest update, tested all the possible graphic modes in game and from control panel, capped frames from steam launch options, disabled audio, unplugged wheel, changed monitor...

aredfox242
23-09-2017, 15:24
tested to make sure again an again
- my box is clean, power delivery is a ok
- turned off all services
- uninstall with DDU, performed clean install on 285.41 -> f1 2017 and other games run a-ok again, only Project Cars 2 crashes out.
- with / without SLI (doesn't matter)

I don't know what to do.. really, sure there's a problem with 385.67 (because there f1 2017 wouldn't run either), but Project Cars 2 also doesn't run on 285.41 with clean & fresh installs.. No idea thus.. I guess NVidia & SMS need to have a chat :) - because I did all I could....

AVO
23-09-2017, 15:27
Same here. It’s a ‘Pcars2 only’ problem.

t-stang
23-09-2017, 16:00
I got the Windows 10 restart screen ("windows needs to restart due to an error..."), while qualifying at Fuji in a Z4 GT3. Haven't had any crashes the last several months of testing. I'm running a GTX 980, not running the latest driver (driver in sig.) My signature is a bit outdated, using driver version 382.05.

Lewis Hashbrown
24-09-2017, 21:41
Having the same problem gtx 770 would love to get it sorted :)

----EDIT----

Managed to find a log in the event viewer not to sure its the log of the crash though

GENERAL VIEW

Fault bucket 129568848667, type 5
Event Name: RADAR_PRE_LEAK_64
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: pCARS2AVX.exe
P2: 1.1.2.0
P3: 10.0.14393.2.0.0
P4:
P5:
P6:
P7:
P8:
P9:
P10:

Attached files:
\\?\C:\Users\Lewis\AppData\Local\Temp\RDR47AC.tmp\empty.txt
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER47BC.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml

These files may be available here:


Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 3efd8263-a15b-11e7-9c27-d43d7eb962cb
Report Status: 0
Hashed bucket: 06443cd889e2ec221b400bdd0ba9db23

DETAILS VIEW

System

- Provider

[ Name] Windows Error Reporting

- EventID 1001

[ Qualifiers] 0

Level 4

Task 0

Keywords 0x80000000000000

- TimeCreated

[ SystemTime] 2017-09-24T19:05:03.069982600Z

EventRecordID 11868

Channel Application

Computer Lewis-PC

Security


- EventData

129568848667
5
RADAR_PRE_LEAK_64
Not available
0
pCARS2AVX.exe
1.1.2.0
10.0.14393.2.0.0







\\?\C:\Users\Lewis\AppData\Local\Temp\RDR47AC.tmp\empty.txt \\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER47BC.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml


0
3efd8263-a15b-11e7-9c27-d43d7eb962cb
0
06443cd889e2ec221b400bdd0ba9db23

azynkron
25-09-2017, 10:55
- no application logs found (e.g. no app or system log events that were errors, or warnings)
- running the latest and greatest drive of 21/09/2017 385.69 - GeForce tells me this is the latest one, so...
- Temps are not going up, all other games run fine in high-res, the fans don't even come one, it just freezes, BANG
- even when turning of to medium settings and having decent 60FPS i have stuttering in game on every track; and randomly it will crash

Try to disable any 3rd party overlays, e.g. Steam FPS count. I have issues with that from time to time and disabling them resolves the issue.
It's a known issue.

AVO
25-09-2017, 11:34
I have no overlays (not that I know at least).
In any case, if I shut down the monitor after the race starts, the game stays on forever. Even the virtual rendering through TeamViewer works properly.
Saldly the delay is huge, otherwise it could be possible to play this way. :D

Siberian Tiger
25-09-2017, 11:41
Have you Guys allready tried to open a Support Ticket on Nvidia Forums? Not that this will help for sure, but it's something to make them aware.

We have internally forwarded this allready to the Devs like i said, but i don't know how fast there can be a progress made...

AVO
25-09-2017, 12:22
Done but useless.

aredfox242
25-09-2017, 15:05
Have you Guys allready tried to open a Support Ticket on Nvidia Forums? Not that this will help for sure, but it's something to make them aware.

We have internally forwarded this allready to the Devs like i said, but i don't know how fast there can be a progress made...

done so indeed

AVO
25-09-2017, 15:28
Drivers 347.71 solved the issue for me.
Sadly performances are sub optimal (also in other games) not being a WIN10 driver.

Let's hope they can address asap the problem with new drivers.

aredfox242
25-09-2017, 17:16
Drivers 347.71 solved the issue for me.
Sadly performances are sub optimal (also in other games) not being a WIN10 driver.

Let's hope they can address asap the problem with new drivers.

that's a very old one, 2015, not?

AVO
25-09-2017, 20:37
After second system restart it’s broken again.
:mad:

jediDTM
26-09-2017, 02:47
upgraded from gtx770 to gtx1060 today and upgraded to latest drivers 22.21.13.8569 and now PCars2 Crashes to desktop after the initial loading screen. Forza7 demo, EVE and iRacing all work perfectly fine and the performance is greatly increased over the gtx770. Yesterday PCars2 worked fine with the old driver and GTX770.

jediDTM
26-09-2017, 02:57
rolled back the driver to 22.21.13.8205 and I'm still get CTD with PCARS2. All other sims are running perfectly fine.

Morgan Henstridge
26-09-2017, 04:13
Have you guys tried running with the -SSE2 launch parameter to see if the issue exists with the Non AVX Executable??

jediDTM
26-09-2017, 07:36
Have you guys tried running with the -SSE2 launch parameter to see if the issue exists with the Non AVX Executable??

won't even load the loading screen with this in the launch parameter. Instant CTD.

jediDTM
26-09-2017, 23:00
Deleted the graphicsconfig.xml file and it's fixed!

aredfox242
27-09-2017, 14:19
Deleted the graphicsconfig.xml file and it's fixed!

where did you find that file, can't find it anywhere.. :/

Sampo
27-09-2017, 15:43
In \My Documents\Project Cars 2\.

Lewis Hashbrown
27-09-2017, 19:30
Hasn't worked for me unfortantly

Lewis Hashbrown
27-09-2017, 19:32
I've put all the settings to the lowest possible. Resolution to the smallest and its using 98% of my cpu?!? Surely that can't be right? I've got a gtx 770 and a i5 4670k

Aldo Zampatti
27-09-2017, 19:45
I've put all the settings to the lowest possible. Resolution to the smallest and its using 98% of my cpu?!? Surely that can't be right? I've got a gtx 770 and a i5 4670k

Actually yes it makes total sense. Low resolution will allow many more frames per second than a higher resolution. The GPU is fed by the CPU so the lower the resolution, the more work the CPU has to do besides the physics and other stuff which should remain consistent.

If you want to lower the GPU/CPU utilization, the best way is limiting the FPS at the same time you lower the resolution. You can try using the -fpscap command with ~60 frames per second, for example:

-fpscap 63 (I always limit above the target) in the command line parameter of the game launch.

Sampo
27-09-2017, 19:48
What's your CPU and how much RAM do you have, Lewis?

Never mind, I have to learn to read... :)

Lewis Hashbrown
27-09-2017, 19:56
I'll try the FPS cap now. Just had it crash and not crash my computer and the power spiked to 100%
https://imgur.com/g4WpXxT

Sampo
27-09-2017, 20:05
Something is wrong with your setup. Delete the graphicsconfigdx11.xml in "\My Documents\Project Cars 2\", get the latest GPU drivers from nvidia and do a "custom install" and tick the "clean install" option in there. Reboot and start PC2.

If you have overclocked your GPU with MSI Afterburner, remove that overclock too. Just go to default settings.

Lewis Hashbrown
27-09-2017, 20:11
I just managed to do a race without crashing! normally last 2 minutes before it goes. Not getting my hopes up to early but the -fpscap 63 in launch options seems to be helping!!

Aldo Zampatti
27-09-2017, 20:27
I just managed to do a race without crashing! normally last 2 minutes before it goes. Not getting my hopes up to early but the -fpscap 63 in launch options seems to be helping!!

Awesome, You might want to hear Sampo suggestions as well..

But everything that happens to you leads to a computer hang due to excessive power draw. This could be (not limited to) by:

- Dust, excessive heat on your GPU/CPU
- Overclocking (both CPU/GPU)
- Power supply being inefficient or insufficient capacity on the PSU.
- Defective hardware.

So you might want to keep an eye on it, and if you're able to play by limiting the frames per second, still keep an eye on all monitors and please DO post back here so we can help other users.

Lewis Hashbrown
27-09-2017, 20:45
I'll try Sampos suggestion tomorrow since my internet is rubbish it would take a while to download the drivers.

Unfortantly so far it only seems to run without crashing on the lowest resolution (can hardly see the game!) just going to try messing with the settings to see if anything helps

EDIT
put the fps cap to 30 and ran fine up to 1920 x 1080 once on thay setting it lasted a good 20 mins though.

aredfox242
29-09-2017, 06:25
ok, my experience...

1. DDU
2. reinstall latest driver 385.69
3. remove graphicsconfig.xml located in document\pcars 2\
4. open geforce experience and apply recommended settings (otherwise it crashes out)
5. run game with -fpscap 33
6. *tada* runs for more than 2hrs, sometimes very sometimes it does crash out still..

enjoying the game finally, a lot :)
but the graphics, phew, man that's a bit weird all.. maybe take a look on that side for next games or patches I'd say..
why? well because my other games didn't have the slightest errors when running them or pushing them to extremes, they keep running and don't crash out the system. Whilst when I play pcars 2 I have to "tame that beast", so it won't crash my system :-)

Either way, I'm enjoying that beast now ;)

AVO
29-09-2017, 16:41
33 fps?!
I can't even play a turn based game at this refresh rate...

Aldo Zampatti
29-09-2017, 16:58
Try increasing the fps count in increments of 5 to find at what level it crashes. You definitely will be benefit from higher framerates. If needed, lower your graphics settings

aredfox242
29-09-2017, 16:59
33 fps?!
I can't even play a turn based game at this refresh rate...

it's a shame indeed, but at least it runs quite stable now
thought I still think SMS needs to investigate

Sampo
29-09-2017, 17:05
It's most likely your PSU, GPU temperature or GPU power that's the culprit. Can you run FurMark (http://www.geeks3d.com/20170502/furmark-1-19-gpu-burner-stress-test-opengl-benchmark/) and Prime95 (https://www.mersenne.org/download/)?

AVO
29-09-2017, 17:18
It's most likely your PSU, GPU temperature or GPU power that's the culprit. Can you run FurMark (http://www.geeks3d.com/20170502/furmark-1-19-gpu-burner-stress-test-opengl-benchmark/) and Prime95 (https://www.mersenne.org/download/)?

As we already said is none of the above mentioned causes.

Sampo
29-09-2017, 19:03
Have you tried those programs I linked to?

Lewis Hashbrown
29-09-2017, 20:57
Took a recording to see if I can spot anything when it crashes this screen shot is half a second before it black screed and froze my pc

https://i.imgur.com/LKuY5vU.png

Trying a clean install of the gpu drivers now and I'll report back soon

----EDIT----
After a clean install of the gpu drivers and the game capped at 30fps I've been able to play for a good half hour and it's still going strong

----EDIT 2----
As I was writing the above edit the game froze my pc. I was just sitting in the menus (typing this on my phone)

AVO
30-09-2017, 09:03
Have you tried those programs I linked to?

They work perfectly.

Lewis Hashbrown
30-09-2017, 12:45
Ran furmark for 5 mins and my pc crashed? Is that pointing towards a power fault?
Ran furmark at lower resolution and crashed within 5 mins

What I've done so far for FurMark,
Put default clock on cpu
Tested RAM with memtest 86
Vrm temp 81c (second before crash)
Gpu temp 71c
Set Gpu boost clock - 50mhz
Set Gpu memory clock - 100mhz
Gpu power saying 101% when running furmark is that correct?
Ran Prime95 for 30 minutes and no problem

What can I do next? Would taking out the gpu and using the onboard graphics with furmark be worth trying?
In my head I've got either the gpu or psu is faulty. But it does run other games fine

Aldo Zampatti
30-09-2017, 17:35
Ran furmark for 5 mins and my pc crashed? Is that pointing towards a power fault?
Ran furmark at lower resolution and crashed within 5 mins

What I've done so far for FurMark,
Put default clock on cpu
Tested RAM with memtest 86
Vrm temp 81c (second before crash)
Gpu temp 71c
Set Gpu boost clock - 50mhz
Set Gpu memory clock - 100mhz
Gpu power saying 101% when running furmark is that correct?
Ran Prime95 for 30 minutes and no problem

What can I do next? Would taking out the gpu and using the onboard graphics with furmark be worth trying?
In my head I've got either the gpu or psu is faulty. But it does run other games fine

Yup, GPU or PSU.

Prime95 would stress CPU but not the PSU since CPU consumes...~100w? maybe... But Furmark will stress GPU and CPU getting a power draw significantly higher (North of 300w probably, depending on the hardware).

So if Furmark also crashes your PC is GPU or PSU 100%.
Now, it might be temperature... It might be a defective part or even an insufficient power available from PSU.

When you said "Set GPU boost ... " is something you're increasing or you wrote "-50mhz" (as in mimus 50)?
Try MSI Afterburner and set everything to deafult and, if MSI AFterburner allows it, even decrease your power target below 100% (it might say +/- 20%, in that case would be -20% or from 50% to 150%, in that case, try 80%...)

With that we might have a better idea of what's going on.

Sampo
30-09-2017, 19:30
I was just going to write all of that. :)

Yes, lower the power target a bit and try again.

Lewis Hashbrown
30-09-2017, 19:51
Yup, GPU or PSU.

Prime95 would stress CPU but not the PSU since CPU consumes...~100w? maybe... But Furmark will stress GPU and CPU getting a power draw significantly higher (North of 300w probably, depending on the hardware).

So if Furmark also crashes your PC is GPU or PSU 100%.
Now, it might be temperature... It might be a defective part or even an insufficient power available from PSU.

When you said "Set GPU boost ... " is something you're increasing or you wrote "-50mhz" (as in mimus 50)?
Try MSI Afterburner and set everything to deafult and, if MSI AFterburner allows it, even decrease your power target below 100% (it might say +/- 20%, in that case would be -20% or from 50% to 150%, in that case, try 80%...)

With that we might have a better idea of what's going on.

Yea set the clock minus. I'll set it all back to default and set the power target lower and see what happens. Will get some compressed air tomorrow as well and blast out the psu

I have got a 750w psu so I doubt it's lacking power but it is now 4+ years old so could be going faulty

----EDIT----
Set the power to 80 (Default 100) and it still crashed

Lewis Hashbrown
30-09-2017, 21:33
Just so I can keep track and let others know this is what ive done so far
Deleted the graphicsconfig.xml file
Set FPS cap to 30 (seemed to help a little)
Did a clean install of the latest driver
Put default clock on cpu
Tested RAM with memtest 86
Vrm temp 81c (second before crash)
Gpu temp 71c
Set Gpu boost clock -50mhz
Set Gpu memory clock -100mhz
Gpu power saying 101% when running furmark is that correct?
Ran Prime95 for 30 minutes and no problem
Set power target to 80 (Default 100)

bandalsquit
30-09-2017, 21:36
Not quite the same, but I have a 1070 gpu, and it would load for the very first start up, but then crashed, and would not load again.. I also had trhis initial problem with my R9 390 but that just fixed itself... perhaps just a glitch, but the Nvidia one just wouldnt play ball at all... I have updated to the lastest driver, and now, it works after crashing on the intiail start.. I start for the firtst time, and it crashes, but try again and it plays fine..

When did it become acceptable to sell half finshed products...Cant wait for the movie industry to release half finished films or car manufacturers to sell cars with only 3 wheels... Its taking the p..s to the extreme.

Aldo Zampatti
01-10-2017, 03:39
Not quite the same, but I have a 1070 gpu, and it would load for the very first start up, but then crashed, and would not load again.. I also had trhis initial problem with my R9 390 but that just fixed itself... perhaps just a glitch, but the Nvidia one just wouldnt play ball at all... I have updated to the lastest driver, and now, it works after crashing on the intiail start.. I start for the firtst time, and it crashes, but try again and it plays fine..

When did it become acceptable to sell half finshed products...Cant wait for the movie industry to release half finished films or car manufacturers to sell cars with only 3 wheels... Its taking the p..s to the extreme.

Please read Lewis's posts carefully. His PC crashes with FurMark too, so it's another issue and I'm collaborating into diagnose his issue.

Alan Dallas
01-10-2017, 06:53
Just an FYI, a few years back I remember reading a rash of reports about the VRM on some 770's overheating and crashing systems. Faulty VRM heatsinks(thermal pads maybe?) or some such. Anyway, running Afterburner and logging voltages while running Furmark should give you a good idea if your VRM thermals are running rampant under high GPU loads.

Lewis Hashbrown
01-10-2017, 08:01
Just an FYI, a few years back I remember reading a rash of reports about the VRM on some 770's overheating and crashing systems. Faulty VRM heatsinks(thermal pads maybe?) or some such. Anyway, running Afterburner and logging voltages while running Furmark should give you a good idea if your VRM thermals are running rampant under high GPU loads.
My Vrm temp before the crash is normally around 81c, I assume that's a normal temperature

Lewis Hashbrown
01-10-2017, 08:32
Just remembered I have a Seasonic S12-II 520W psu so I'll try swap them when I get a moment

AVO
01-10-2017, 09:23
Is furmark crashing with any drivers revision?
Anyway, if the card works with any other game I won’t wast any more time in witch hunting...
My card works (randomly) with PC2 using some old drivers for hours, so it can’t be an hw problem.

Lewis Hashbrown
01-10-2017, 22:15
Swapped the psu tonight played for a good 10 mins on medium settings but then crashed. It also crashed on furmark. Only problem now is I don't have a spare gfx card and don't really want to buy a new one if the one I've got now is fine

AVO
01-10-2017, 22:57
Swapped the psu tonight played for a good 10 mins on medium settings but then crashed. It also crashed on furmark. Only problem now is I don't have a spare gfx card and don't really want to buy a new one if the one I've got now is fine

If you use the standard Asus tweak panel just try to rise the temperature target from 80 (default) to 86. Probably furmark won’t crash anymore (but don’t expect any improvement on Pcars2).

In any case there are much better sims that can work with your card: AC runs almost maxed out at 60fps on single screen.

Lewis Hashbrown
01-10-2017, 23:44
Come to a bit of a conclusion for now....
I put the settings to the lowest and capped the game at 30fps and I was able to play an hour before I decided to turn it off.

I feel like when running higher settings the spare psu (520v, Nvidia recommend 600v) maxes out and crashes.

So I've ordered a new 750w psu and I'll see how it goes when it arrives.

On the plus side the hour I played before I decided I should get some sleep was really good fun, even on rather poor settings! ��

satco1066
02-10-2017, 01:12
If you use the standard Asus tweak panel just try to rise the temperature target from 80 (default) to 86. Probably furmark won’t crash anymore (but don’t expect any improvement on Pcars2).

In any case there are much better sims that can work with your card: AC runs almost maxed out at 60fps on single screen.

As every newer generation of gaming software, pCARS2 needs more GPU power than 3 years old outdated AC. :p

AVO
02-10-2017, 04:40
Come to a bit of a conclusion for now....
I put the settings to the lowest and capped the game at 30fps and I was able to play an hour before I decided to turn it off.

I feel like when running higher settings the spare psu (520v, Nvidia recommend 600v) maxes out and crashes.

So I've ordered a new 750w psu and I'll see how it goes when it arrives.

On the plus side the hour I played before I decided I should get some sleep was really good fun, even on rather poor settings! ��

I have a 750W psu...

Winzarten
02-10-2017, 05:44
As every newer generation of gaming software, pCARS2 needs more GPU power than 3 years old outdated AC. :p
But does it need more power than Dark Souls 3, Witcher 3, CSX Heavy Haul and other games I tend to play on daily basis?
Isn't it weird that only pcars2 has this problem, and that I had to reinstall the drivers each time I played it, or it would start to affect other games? This doesn't look like a hw problem.
Anyway, I refunded the game, will keep an eye on patch notes to see if it will eventually be fixed.

Aldo Zampatti
02-10-2017, 05:47
But does it need more power than Dark Souls 3, Witcher 3, CSX Heavy Haul and other games I tend to play on daily basis?
Isn't it weird that only pcars2 has this problem, and that I had to reinstall the drivers each time I played it, or it would start to affect other games? This doesn't look like a hw problem.
Anyway, I refunded the game, will keep an eye on patch notes to see if it will eventually be fixed.

Answer might be yes because PC2 squeezes the GPU as much as the others probably, but with PC2 your CPU takes a nice beating too due to the physics at 600 times per second calculation. To be as authentic, is very demanding... Imagine calculating all the heat dissipation, water direction, wind, aero effects,etc,etc (Dynamic Everything©) is very taxing.

Winzarten
02-10-2017, 05:55
And CSX Heavy Haul is calculating the physics for a 1-mile long train.... And it runs much worse on my HW than pcars 2. So my guess would be that it stresses the HW even more.
I play games uncapped, so each game hits one bottlenech, either be it GPU or CPU, and in my observation the load is nowhere different between Project Cars 2 and other AAA games (observing temperatures, as they are the best indication of how much wattage is going into the HW). Project cars 2 was crashing when it ran at 60fps, with one car on the track (in garage in fact), while I was browsing the menus. Don't try to convince me that this is some kind of super-demanding situation that stresses my HW to the limit.

AVO
02-10-2017, 09:14
And CSX Heavy Haul is calculating the physics for a 1-mile long train.... And it runs much worse on my HW than pcars 2. So my guess would be that it stresses the HW even more.
I play games uncapped, so each game hits one bottlenech, either be it GPU or CPU, and in my observation the load is nowhere different between Project Cars 2 and other AAA games (observing temperatures, as they are the best indication of how much wattage is going into the HW). Project cars 2 was crashing when it ran at 60fps, with one car on the track (in garage in fact), while I was browsing the menus. Don't try to convince me that this is some kind of super-demanding situation that stresses my HW to the limit.

Correct. It’s a game/driver problem.
My system can sustain any kind of stress I give it, but crashes with PC2 with everything on ‘low’ in the pits at 30fps capped.

Lewis Hashbrown
02-10-2017, 12:27
I can see how you think it's the game software at fault but at the same time why would I crash on furmark? Unless furmark isn't compatible with a gtx 770?

Winzarten
02-10-2017, 12:33
If you look futher back in the thread you'll notice that people started experiencing similar issues in other games once it crashed in PCars2 (in my case it was Dark Souls 3, for other it was overwatch or F1 2017).
Clearly reinstalling the drivers fixed this issue in other games, until Pcars2 was run again. So it appears that pcars2 triggers some condition/setting that makes some 770GTX unstable under load.

AVO
02-10-2017, 15:37
Exactly.
And until they solve the issue I would stay away from this game ‘cause it may also damage your hardware.

Alan Dallas
03-10-2017, 03:24
Exactly.
And until they solve the issue I would stay away from this game ‘cause it may also damage your hardware.

I wouldn't go that far. Damaging a driver installation is a far cry from damaging hardware.
I find it very suspicious you're one of the very few who are experiencing a problem. It leads me to believe you have other issues on your machine or a failing GPU card... pC2 is just the catalyst that makes it apparent.
Like I posted earlier, I still have my 660Ti, I put it in, guess what? Game ran flawlessly with it at 1080p with mostly medium settings. There's not a lot of difference between a 660Ti and 770 card(both are Kepler based, GK104 vs GK110).
Oh and 81C on the VRM is stupid hot!! Not normal.

AVO
03-10-2017, 05:11
I wouldn't go that far. Damaging a driver installation is a far cry from damaging hardware.
I find it very suspicious you're one of the very few who are experiencing a problem. It leads me to believe you have other issues on your machine or a failing GPU card... pC2 is just the catalyst that makes it apparent.
Like I posted earlier, I still have my 660Ti, I put it in, guess what? Game ran flawlessly with it at 1080p with mostly medium settings. There's not a lot of difference between a 660Ti and 770 card(both are Kepler based, GK104 vs GK110).
Oh and 81C on the VRM is stupid hot!! Not normal.

So I’ll wait it fail playing other games :D

Morgan Henstridge
03-10-2017, 05:41
My 780ti was factory overclocked and the only game it failed with was PCARS 1 back in the day.

I was able to play without issue though by removing the factory OC, and also by keeping the factory OC and upping the Voltage slightly.

If it was something with the game code crashing the card, either of these changes would not have made a difference. It is just graphically intense and working the card extra hard.

AVO
03-10-2017, 06:02
My 780ti was factory overclocked and the only game it failed with was PCARS 1 back in the day.

I was able to play without issue though by removing the factory OC, and also by keeping the factory OC and upping the Voltage slightly.

If it was something with the game code crashing the card, either of these changes would not have made a difference. It is just graphically intense and working the card extra hard.

I made all the possible downclock and overvoltage. Limited the framerate to absurd values, upped and lowered the power/temperature limits, removed any OC program, installed OC programs, checked the bios on all the PC components...

NOT WORKING.

It works sometime (even at maximum clock) with VERY old drivers (347.71) and with the latest ones it is ale to crash ON THE MENUS (a lot of CPU / GPU power used there... :D ).

Furmarking and priming forever and no problem at all with other games.

Brand new coolermaster 700W and all the voltages rock solid.

How can you think about an HW issue is out of my mind...

Lewis Hashbrown
03-10-2017, 06:27
Oh and 81C on the VRM is stupid hot!! Not normal.

Is it? This was under full load in a stress test, searched a bit on Google and most people with a gtx 770 seem to sit around 80?

AVO
03-10-2017, 07:13
It’s normal.
The standard temperature target of our GPU is 80deg, so under full load it will reach that temperature before reducing performances in order to stay close to the target.

wikke1984
03-10-2017, 09:04
for me it helped to delete graphicsconfigdx11.xml in my documents ...
now the game is starting up and it dont stops any more after 1min :-)

i use i7 5820K - 16GB DDR4 - GTX 1080ti

Lewis Hashbrown
03-10-2017, 21:12
Got some good news!
Installed my new Psu (same voltage) and I've ran furmark for 30 mins fine (use to crash within 2 mins) and project cars 2 for 3 hours on high settings fine as well!

Just want to say thanks to Sampo and Aldo Zampatti for all the help troubleshooting even though it was a fault with my pc!

AVO
03-10-2017, 22:02
Could you please share the brand of your new and old PSU?
I have a new 700w coolermaster and I can’t imagine it’s not up to the job...

Anyway I borrowed a 1060gtx and it works fine with PC2 on my system (but the power request is much lower).

Lewis Hashbrown
03-10-2017, 22:37
Old
Seasonic 750 W M12II Bronze Series
New
EVGA 750 GQ, 80+ GOLD 750W

The old psu was running a overclocked cpu for 5+ years so it probably started to go faulty at full load

Aldo Zampatti
03-10-2017, 22:59
Got some good news!
Installed my new Psu (same voltage) and I've ran furmark for 30 mins fine (use to crash within 2 mins) and project cars 2 for 3 hours on high settings fine as well!

Just want to say thanks to Sampo and Aldo Zampatti for all the help troubleshooting even though it was a fault with my pc!

Told you! PSU was my #1 guy to point the finger at :)
Glad you solve it, sadly you had to spend money but again, glad you're enjoying your PC2 drives :)


EDIT: FYI, I have a Rosewill 80+ Gold 1000w that it was rock solid for 4 years... but since my PC started yesterday to behave strangely, is the first thing I will swap. Whenever anyone has a VERY GOOD PSU and you have strange issues, don't assume your PSU is the best component on your system, they fail over time and is the worst to troubleshoot.

Lewis Hashbrown
04-10-2017, 06:17
Told you! PSU was my #1 guy to point the finger at :)
Glad you solve it, sadly you had to spend money but again, glad you're enjoying your PC2 drives :)


EDIT: FYI, I have a Rosewill 80+ Gold 1000w that it was rock solid for 4 years... but since my PC started yesterday to behave strangely, is the first thing I will swap. Whenever anyone has a VERY GOOD PSU and you have strange issues, don't assume your PSU is the best component on your system, they fail over time and is the worst to troubleshoot.

Very true, there is no software to monitor voltages/temps or even to make sure it's giving out a good DC supply instead of AC

Lewis Hashbrown
06-10-2017, 17:04
The problems are back :(

AVO
06-10-2017, 19:45
The problems are back :(

As I said in several posts, don't waste your time/money 'till they fix the game/drivers unless you want to change the GPU.
I did it and now I can play rFactor 2 in ultra... :D

Alan Dallas
07-10-2017, 02:22
It’s normal.
The standard temperature target of our GPU is 80deg, so under full load it will reach that temperature before reducing performances in order to stay close to the target.

I was referring to the VRM(voltage regulator module) being too hot, not the GPU. The VRM(s) have their own heat sink interface. If they get to hot voltage can go all over the place and cause the card to reinitialize(soft crash) or just plain lock up. Hence my mentioning of people reporting bad Thermal Pads on the VRM on some 770's a few years back. It's always a good idea to remove the heat sink on GPU cards that have been in service a few years and clean up the old Thermal compound/pads and apply new stuff(all of it, GPU, VRM, and VRAM). It breaks down over time.

AVO
07-10-2017, 08:55
So, let’s listen from your “expert” opinion which is the correct temperature for VRM in the gtx770 under heavy load...

Lewis Hashbrown
07-10-2017, 11:33
Reinstalled the gpu drivers, managed to run furmark for 2 hours. And still playing pcars 2 been about 2 hours

Also set the fps cap to 33 which seems to of stopped it crashing for some odd reason.

Even on no fps limit the gpu and cpu are not hitting 100% usage

Owczar
08-10-2017, 05:22
I have the same problem. Game works for 3-5 minutes and then crashes - no signal on monitor, looped sound, only restart button helps. Then after reboot, every other game I tried behaves similar! Crashes few minutes after. Only thing that helps is clean driver reinstall. Then everything works great until trying PC2 again... My specs: Asus gryphon, i7-4771, 16gb ram, Asus gtx770, Corsair rm650.

Alan Dallas
08-10-2017, 05:50
So, let’s listen from your “expert” opinion which is the correct temperature for VRM in the gtx770 under heavy load...

25C Less than Rated thermal heat dissipation max(aka Tj(max)) is the rule of thumb. Once you go beyond the thermal design, line voltage drops and spikes will most likely occur. Or at least that's what they teach when your earning a Degree in Electronic engineering(completed my Assoc., still need to go back to school and finish my Bachelors). nVidia reference design for the VRM called out 90-100C for Tj(max) if memory serves.

AVO
08-10-2017, 08:13
25C Less than Rated thermal heat dissipation max(aka Tj(max)) is the rule of thumb. Once you go beyond the thermal design, line voltage drops and spikes will most likely occur. Or at least that's what they teach when your earning a Degree in Electronic engineering(completed my Assoc., still need to go back to school and finish my Bachelors). nVidia reference design for the VRM called out 90-100C for Tj(max) if memory serves.

The usual rating of VRMs is about 125C and this is normal as they run 15-20C hotter than GPU.
The GPU has 80C of temperature target (not maximum), so VRMs are expected to run consistently around 95C.

Lewis Hashbrown
08-10-2017, 11:11
I'm convinced it's something either on project cars side or nvideas, played for a good 4 hours yesterday after reinstalling the gpu drivers. Loaded the game up today and it crashed within 30 mins

Winzarten
08-10-2017, 16:33
It would be a really weird HW problem if it would affect other games, only when pcars 2 was run previously, and could be fixed with a simple driver reinstall.
Lets not forget that GTX770 is not the only card that experiencing weird behaviour. Some GTX 1070 are reporting weird custom LED flashing when the game is run. Sure, it isn't that kind of problem some 770 experiencing, and doesn't look particularly severe, but it keeps me wondering if pcars is really interfacing with the HW in a 100% standard way.

Owczar
10-10-2017, 15:03
It's still the same with new nvidia drivers. This is really strange, looks like PC2 messing with drivers or something like that. Every game I tried is crashing in the same way after PC2 crash. Clean driver reinstall helps.

Sampo
10-10-2017, 16:53
I haven't read all this thread, but when you do a clean reinstall, do you install all the nvidia programs or just the drivers and physx?

Owczar
10-10-2017, 16:58
I'm not using Geforce Experience, not a fan of bloatware ;) Everything else is checked. Do You think Geforce Experience can make a difference?

Lewis Hashbrown
10-10-2017, 17:35
I haven't read all this thread, but when you do a clean reinstall, do you install all the nvidia programs or just the drivers and physx?

I do a clean driver install through geforce

Sampo
10-10-2017, 17:38
I think you should reinstall just the drivers and physx and untick everything else to see if any of the extras are causing this. Get the driver package from https://www.geforce.com/drivers.

Edit: remember to tick the "clean install" option too.

Edit 2: I checked what changes in the registry after launching PC2 and I see nothing that for example AC doesn't do (used it because it was the first DX11 game that's in my list). I only have the Gfx drivers installed though.

Edit 3: when you've played PC2 and it crashes, you reboot before trying another game which also starts to crash, right?

Edit 4: are you by chance using NVidia's HD Audio sound driver to get sound through HDMI?

Owczar
10-10-2017, 19:09
I tried with installing only drivers and physx, everything else unticked and it's still the same. Clean install is ticked of course :)
Yep, I have to reboot before trying other game, couse PC2 either totally frezees my PC (black screen, then monitor shows "no signal", and sound is looped) or restarts by itself after few secs.
I'm not using Nvidia HD Audio, nor HDMI - Display Port monitor here.

Deathbox_2112
10-10-2017, 20:00
Shame to hear the GTX770 having troubles with another game. I bought a new 1080GTX after having so much trouble trying to play Battlefield 1 with my old 770. It was time for an upgrade, anyway. Hope it all gets sorted out.

Sampo
10-10-2017, 20:06
What kind of crashes are the other game crashes after PC2? Are they just crashing to desktop when starting or does it take some time to crash and they restart or freeze the whole computer?

After reinstalling the drivers, if you just start PC2 and start driving and then immediately exit PC2, do other games keep crashing?

Owczar
10-10-2017, 20:47
Other games crash in the same way like PC2, I can play for 3-5 minutes, and then black screen, no signal, looped sound and reboot after a while.
Need to check how it will work after exiting PC2! Thanks

Winzarten
16-10-2017, 06:41
This workaround fixes other weird behaviour with pcars2 on other cards - led blinking and fan set 100% speed.
Anyone with the bug can try it out, if it, by a chance, doesn't fix also the crashing issue? I would, but I refunded my pcars 2 copy.


In my earlier post I provided a link to the NVAPI on NVidia's site. It says there, that if a program can't find nvapi64.dll, the loading will just fail silently and the programn will continue. So I renamed C:\Windows\System32\nvapi64.dll to nvapi64.dll_ for a try. No more led blinking when I started the game. The game or some middleware in it certainly uses the nvapi to control the led. I renamed the file back though, because something else will surely want to use it.

The guys with the fan control problem, can you try this to check if using the nvapi is affecting the fans.

Owczar
23-10-2017, 19:59
After first quick test it works! First time I was able to complete more than 2 laps! :D

Deathbox_2112
23-10-2017, 21:42
In my earlier post I provided a link to the NVAPI on NVidia's site. It says there, that if a program can't find nvapi64.dll, the loading will just fail silently and the programn will continue. So I renamed C:\Windows\System32\nvapi64.dll to nvapi64.dll_ for a try. No more led blinking when I started the game. The game or some middleware in it certainly uses the nvapi to control the led. I renamed the file back though, because something else will surely want to use it.

The guys with the fan control problem, can you try this to check if using the nvapi is affecting the fans.

That's the fix we had to use for Battlefield 1. I was 85% successful with it, but it would still crash once in a while. I don't remember which driver that was, but it was an older version.

Winzarten
24-10-2017, 06:58
After first quick test it works! First time I was able to complete more than 2 laps! :D
Great to hear, so there is a chance when other weird behaviours gets fixed then this will be fixed as well.