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balderz002
02-05-2018, 07:46
Having a new found appreciation of the Lotus 25, thats my fave.....

Tank621
02-05-2018, 10:12
Personally I love the 72D but the 25 and both 49s are fantastic too

Zaskarspants
02-05-2018, 10:21
When I started on pcars I had little road sim expirience having graduated from dirt3 / rally / 4. I was rubbish.
I decided I needed a really slow car so I spent ages driving the slow and old lotus 51, the ' Ian Bell' car. I still really enjoy that car, it is fun to slide.

WellRED Barron
02-05-2018, 10:25
I have sat on this question for over an hour (well I did other things too) and I just can’t pick one. It depends on the day. I gave the 25 another look after I saw your post and yeah, it is brilliant. Almost a perfect power/weight ratio for my skill level. When I am in the zone, the 49 is tough to beat, but it can get away from me quite easily on the wrong day. I’ve truly had a blast driving each and every one of them, and they are my favorite Lotus single seater suite (say that three times fast) in any racer i’ve yet played.

balderz002
02-05-2018, 12:16
I liked the 49, but I too, for my skill level love the 25. I have been thrashing out TT laps of Snetterton 200 in the 25, and love love love it! I would say, don't get your times in, as I am currently top (out of a cast of 2!). Also tried Brands Hatch GP, and I don't know how, got into 9th place on the LB after doing less than double figures of laps.

Tried the 51 at Snetterton 200 after doing lots of 25 laps........ I couldn't even get half way round the circuit without swapping ends or taking the scenic route! Parked it up and went back to the 25!

I am starting to come to the idea that modern race cars work better for me with default stable setup, and historics are better for me with default loose setup.

Tank621
02-05-2018, 12:27
Actually the Lotus 51 is great fun on Rallycross circuits, I've tried it a Brands Hatch and Lydden Hill just for gits and shiggles and it is suprisingly enjoyable

VelvetTorpedo
02-05-2018, 12:30
25 for me

Smoked_Cheddar
02-05-2018, 14:19
Lotus 49 wingless for the Road Courses, vintage tires too. :D

Lotus 38 for Indy, I was surprised how similar it handled to the roadsters for the era.

banner77amc
02-05-2018, 14:34
I liked the 49, but I too, for my skill level love the 25. I have been thrashing out TT laps of Snetterton 200 in the 25, and love love love it! I would say, don't get your times in, as I am currently top (out of a cast of 2!). Also tried Brands Hatch GP, and I don't know how, got into 9th place on the LB after doing less than double figures of laps.

Tried the 51 at Snetterton 200 after doing lots of 25 laps........ I couldn't even get half way round the circuit without swapping ends or taking the scenic route! Parked it up and went back to the 25!

I am starting to come to the idea that modern race cars work better for me with default stable setup, and historics are better for me with default loose setup.

Historic race cars are so much better in loose

Gav88888
02-05-2018, 15:28
is it the 72 and 78 one, not the 86T as that is just too fast through the gears to be fun. Shame we don't have more historic cars like old McLarens and Ferraris to make up a decent historic grid.

balderz002
02-05-2018, 17:28
As much as i would love to see more, I don't think we will. The competition all look too similar. I think they are treated like the Formula A cars.

Max Torque
02-05-2018, 21:02
I love the Lotus 98T. Absolutely fearsome car from the best period of motorsport history. The driver was the limit, not the car. So please add the McLaren MP4/4 as it was the final stroke of that great period.

hkraft300
02-05-2018, 23:44
I loved the 98T and hated the 72 in pc1.
Haven’t driven the 98 enough, but the 72 and 78 are amazing. Unsophisticated aero. Just a fraction too much power for the grip. Manageable and won’t kill you for mistakes. I think I’m slow in them but I do enjoy it.
I’ll have to crack the 49 and 25. So many cars I haven’t driven yet.

Tank621
02-05-2018, 23:49
I know I've said it before but I'll say it a again the 72D at Bathurst is truly fantastic

hkraft300
02-05-2018, 23:56
I know I've said it before but I'll say it a again the 72D at Bathurst is truly fantastic

I’ll put it in the wall a million times.
I’m terrible at downshifting so often I’ll lock the rears on entry. At silverstone classic, hockenheim classic and road America there’s space for that kind of silliness Bathurst won’t tolerate.
Messy but fun.

Tank621
03-05-2018, 00:14
Yeah I used to be totally awful at Bathurst, in the walls almost every lap but for some reason when I got comfortable running Bathurst and began getting in clean laps it just felt so rewarding, maybe even more so than the Nordschliefe, now Bathurst might just be my favourite track for hot lapping and for whatever reason the Lotus 72D just feels fantastic on that Mountain

I suppose if anyone knows the magic of Bathurst better than anyone on these forums though it's probably Cluck

Coolerking
03-05-2018, 07:10
The historic F1 cars are a personal favourite of mine...I spent hours and hours with Grand Prix Legends back in the day. Even played it the morning of my wedding day in 1999! (I was on my own in my flat at the time, took my mind off things..).
Anyway, because of that, it has to be the 49, although I really like the 72 and 78. I love the open cockpit cars in VR, it’s awesome!

Interchangeable
04-05-2018, 09:17
79 or 80. 81 and 88 are pretty smart though!

Cladandadum
04-05-2018, 09:23
The 78 around Brands Hatch and the 25 around Historic Spa. I can almost feel the wind in my hair.

Well, via the helmet for safety reasons. Great stuff.

Gives just an inkling if what it may have been like.

Poulka
05-05-2018, 01:21
I will have to come back to this thread with my answer after I finish my history lesson lol. My history is going back seasons in f1 and racing the car and tracks we have PC2 from that time period boy has it been fun. Just seeing the evolution in the car is tremendous. Like others have would love some competition manufacturers to really get a feel from that time and have a realistic grid.

Azure Flare
05-05-2018, 01:40
I quite like the 78. It's really fun. The 45 is unique as hell, and can still be driven on road courses.


not the 86T 98T as that is just too fast through the gears to be fun.

It has 1,200 HP at full boost, you're going to be going through 1st-3rd really fast.

balderz002
05-05-2018, 05:48
It has 1,200 HP at full boost, you're going to be going through 1st-3rd really fast.

And you'll be going really sideways! Lol

hkraft300
05-05-2018, 11:55
Lotus 25. Caldwell park.

balderz002
05-05-2018, 17:31
I am now (Not right now, just when i next play) going to try and learn to conquer Rouen. That's my new mission for the 25.

Coolerking
05-05-2018, 17:35
I am now (Not right now, just when i next play) going to try and learn to conquer Rouen. That's my new mission for the 25.

Always found Rouen to be a really difficult track to get right! I’ve never managed it up to just...

Vic Flange
06-05-2018, 08:28
Lotus 25. Caldwell park.
Oh yes. Manual H shifter as well. Just sublime.

Vic Flange
06-05-2018, 08:41
I am now (Not right now, just when i next play) going to try and learn to conquer Rouen. That's my new mission for the 25.


Always found Rouen to be a really difficult track to get right! Iíve never managed it up to just...

The trick to Rouen is to build up to speed. This is in the Lotus 49.
The first corner (straight after the start/finish line) can be taken really fast. Just a slight lift but you MUST get your line right.
Brake earlier than you would like for the next left because it is slightly off camber (3rd or 4th gear dependent on your setup).
Next right should be almost flat in 4th (maybe a slight lift).
Now for the hardest corner. Brake before the left kink and down a couple of gears. Ease off the brake through the kink then brake again and shift down to first for the hairpin.
Slight lift through the right kink just to keep the car settled.
The next left/right is a lift and down a gear.
Brake early and down to 2nd for the tight left with the hay bales.
Slight lift for the next right (beware the AI is quite slow through here).
Down a gear and accelerate hard through the next right. This is probably the most important corner on the track because you are flat out for a long time after it.
Flat through the right bend.
Tricky braking for the next right because you are going fast. A good rule of thumb is to brake when you are just about to go under the overhead power lines. Down to 2nd.
The final corner is fantastic. I donít brake. Just lift, drop down to 4th accelerate hard and hope I got it right.
Itís a wonderful track that really shines with the old Lotusí.

Vic Flange
06-05-2018, 08:52
In answer to the original question. Lotus 49 ever so slightly over the Lotus 25. Both magnificent cars.