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    Quote Originally Posted by Bealdor View Post
    What assists are you using? GT3 cars have ABS and TC for a reason.
    I race with 0 assists on. Is there assists on the car beyond the game settings as in the setup? not noticed anything
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    The 12C is a car that tempts you to over-drive it. I am doing 2:01's at Brno and you can't do that over-driving the car. My style is to brake a bit early and put the car in a position to get on the throttle as early as possible mid apex. There are a lot of 90 deg corners at Brno. Those 2 secs I'm looking for have to be in the setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Rowland View Post
    The 12C is a car that tempts you to over-drive it. I am doing 2:01's at Brno and you can't do that over-driving the car. My style is to brake a bit early and put the car in a position to get on the throttle as early as possible mid apex. There are a lot of 90 deg corners at Brno. Those 2 secs I'm looking for have to be in the setup.
    I agree, i dont think there is much wrong with the 12c. IMO its the best handling gt3 car, a good tune would just add more to it but i favored the Porsche because i like the challenge it offers when tuning because of its understeer on the power. but i was able make something out of it on Oulton park tuning for a series and i think its the best gt3 in general for most tracks but top speed ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I race with 0 assists on. Is there assists on the car beyond the game settings as in the setup? not noticed anything
    I meant, if you want to replicate RL you should set the assists to "Real". All GT3 cars will then have TC and ABS, just like IRL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMS TopSecret View Post
    I agree, i dont think there is much wrong with the 12c.
    I'm not sure of it. Yes it is "easy" to drive and boosts your confidence but once you know it and try to push the car the right way, you can't deny that the 4C tends to understeer on mid/exit corner.
    I try to get under 2'18 in quali at Spa with it. I'm close but as I don't know how to setup a car, I focus on my driving and I'm struggling with understeer. Particulary at Eau Rouge and T11.
    I tried to move some sliders (aero, antiroll bar, tyre pressure) It's better but not perfect
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrien Lopes View Post
    I'm not sure of it. Yes it is "easy" to drive and boosts your confidence but once you know it and try to push the car the right way, you can't deny that the 4C tends to understeer on mid/exit corner.
    I try to get under 2'18 in quali at Spa with it. I'm close but as I don't know how to setup a car, I focus on my driving and I'm struggling with understeer. Particulary at Eau Rouge and T11.
    I tried to move some sliders (aero, antiroll bar, tyre pressure) It's better but not perfect
    I already answered this on the first page:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bealdor View Post
    Reduce Limited Slip Acceleration Lock to get rid of the corner exit understeer...
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    Yeah, my #1 tip for project CARS tuning is to learn how the Differential works. It's a very dominant sub-system that determines a lot about the cornering behavior.

    Mid-corner understeer can also be a consequence of too much REAR Toe-in so try pointing the rears a little more outwards in the setup.
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    I'm working on a tune for it right now which I'll be happy to share here if anyone wants it? Should be done by tomorrow.

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    Had the same problems with the McLaren. After a long night of testing, tweaking and swearing I finally found what I believe to be the right setup. I'm still not perfectly happy with it but once I got more time, I will look into it and improve handling on rather bumpy tracks. You will be able to floor it even before the apex in some tight turns like Barcelona Turn 10. Tried Watkins Glen with it and the car handles rather nervous and somewhat punishing if you sc*ew up Laguna Seca for example worked well for me after I got used to the complete new handling of the car.

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    All driving aids are on.

    Brake Pressure - 100%
    Brake Balance - 55%
    Brake Duct - 20% (on some tracks even less)
    Traction Control Slip - 1%

    Longitudinal Weight Bias - 52.3%

    Steering Ratio - 20.4:1 (but that's personal preference)

    Limited Slip Acceleration Lock - 80%
    Limited Slip Deceleration Lock - 60%
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    Radiator - 0% (because I play without damage for now so my engine can't blow up... you may want to adjust this to the lowest possible value without losing your engine)

    Gearing - I just set the final drive as short as possible without touching the other gears. If however you hit top speed before the braking point of a straight, move your 6th gear's slider towards the right.

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    Hope it helps you mate. I was kinda disappointed by the 12C when I took it out for the first test drive with stock settings, it handled terribly bad. Now I love the way how it powers around corners and chicanes.

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    Can you give more information about the setup? Is the rear setup the same or is it stock?

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