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    Controller + No Assists: Is it Possible?

    So playing career last night, I had my second race not in a Kart. Caterham Seven Classic - no assists on All weather tires. Corner entry oversteer / Throttle off oversteer looms large. On top of that, the front wheels still seem way too sensitive - making any turns in an apex or tightening corner seem to ALWAYS turn the wheels to sharp, regardless of how much sensitivity I take out of the steering through controller configuration and setting the steering rack all the way to the right at around 20:1.

    Probably spend 1.5 hours trying to master this car, and managed to learn alot about keeping the throttle feathered during braking and corners.

    But still, the steering is brutal, there are no cues to read to know how close to breaking traction the car is, any tire squeeling means its already too late.


    Should I give up going no assists? I don't think I was able to put in a validated lap more than 2 laps in a row.

    Am I missing something?

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    I couldn't play with no assists on my gamepad. Not enough range in the controls to be accurate
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    The Caterham, as well as the Ariels and the BAC are very hard to control without assists, indeed. But other cars can be very well driven with a Controller and no assists. Ever tried setting steering sensitivity to 0? Might help (;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink_650S View Post
    The Caterham, as well as the Ariels and the BAC are very hard to control without assists, indeed. But other cars can be very well driven with a Controller and no assists. Ever tried setting steering sensitivity to 0? Might help (;
    Yeah, tried setting to zero, dead zone zero, controller type 1,2,3 maxed out the rack ratio etc. Seems to be that the front wheels are to unpredictable for steering and discerning where traction begins and ends. I bet on a forcefeedback wheel you could feel the slip point.


    As soon as there is a wheel not over $200 I'll think about getting one....but...tiny manhattan apartment...barely have the room for the guitars and computers all over the place.

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    Yes, it's very possible, I'm having a blast with the Caterham with no assists using a controller, even in the wet.

    BAC mono is no problem either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danowat View Post
    Yes, it's very possible, I'm having a blast with the Caterham with no assists using a controller, even in the wet.

    BAC mono is no problem either.

    Maybe care to share your controller settings/tune?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelzr View Post
    Maybe care to share your controller settings/tune?
    Steering deadzone 6
    Steering sensitivity 0
    Throttle deadzone 10
    Throttle sensitivity 30
    Brake deadzone 10
    Brake sensitivity 30
    Speed sensitivity 55
    Controller filtering 40
    Advanced on
    Soft steering damper

    Caterham Classic settings

    Pressures 1.20 Bar front and rear
    Steering ratio 14.4:1
    Front toe in -0.6
    Rear spring rates 31N/mm
    Last edited by danowat; 15-05-2015 at 16:42.
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    Yes it's possible, I turned all assists off and drive just fine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BSDShoes View Post
    Yes it's possible, I turned all assists off and drive just fine.

    I haven't tried anything open wheel yet, but I'd suggest testing out the Catherham Seven Classic with all weather tires and see what it's like without the support of any downforce on an antiquated chassis.

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    Couple of laps in the BAC Mono, even though it's fairly low powered I'd say it's one of the harder cars to drive hard.
    I don't profess to be the faster driver in the world, but I was pushing it as hard as I could!!!


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