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    Mine feels very similar to before the patch. The centering spring is definitely not disabled & the only change I had to make after the patch was to drop the tire forces by 5.

    I'm happy with the way of feels, but I'd still like the spring to be toned down or disabled for the sake of wheel longevity.
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    TBH I've never had a problem with the 'centre spring' no idea why!?

    I'be gone back to an almost default setup for FFB now, with the only changes being tyre force down to 50 and FFB up to 100, it seems to give me a better idea of what the rear end of the car is doing in comparison to the other FFB tuning I have tried, it also seems easier to catch the car because of this.

    Only really tested with LMP2 at Le Mans I guess I better take a GT3 to a bumpy track next....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ally_bassman View Post
    LordDRIFT, are you using the standard T300rs wheel?

    I haven't noticed any FFB fade on my T300rs until I swapped to the Ferrari F1 wheel, now I'm sure I'm getting fade after 30 minutes or so. I've always had my FFB set to 100 (all other settings set to standard) going to try again tonight and if I feel fade, I'm going to revert back to the T300 wheel.

    To add another spanner in, I'm not sure if it's down to the 1.4 patch...but it certainly feels different to pre patch. I'm not having 'to fight' the wheel as much.
    Have you tried dropping the tire forces? I'm using the F1 wheel & Jack Spade's FFB settings & I haven't had any fade so far, even though I use my wheel in a very warm room. I have it set at 100 FFB & 60 tire force.

    Using the default settings the wheel felt far too heavy, I'm not surprised the FFB fade kicks in for a lot of people - the wheel is obviously getting too hot & the safety mechanism is kicking in.
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    Will give it a go, thanks!

    I've never noticed it before, but yesterday with the LMP2 car, I certainly felt like the steering was getting lighter throughout the race.

    Apart from that, all good pre and post patch for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ally_bassman View Post
    LordDRIFT, are you using the standard T300rs wheel?

    I haven't noticed any FFB fade on my T300rs until I swapped to the Ferrari F1 wheel, now I'm sure I'm getting fade after 30 minutes or so. I've always had my FFB set to 100 (all other settings set to standard) going to try again tonight and if I feel fade, I'm going to revert back to the T300 wheel.

    To add another spanner in, I'm not sure if it's down to the 1.4 patch...but it certainly feels different to pre patch. I'm not having 'to fight' the wheel as much.
    I'm using the PS4 licensed wheel. It never faded during the first 2 weeks of ownership but it started recently and gradually getting worse. It first started on the 80s formula car - the massive forces here may be a contributing factor but since then on every other car I've had fading.

    I have a post patch profile that still fades with the ffb at 100 and the Jack Spades tweakers. Im not surprised folks using the tweakers are finding the wheel not suitable - obviously the params driving the engine has changed so tweaks will be skewed. The PC boys are really hurting though and that makes sense since im pretty sure the tweaks are optimized for PC. That's maybe why PS4 owners are having a lesser degree of issues using the tweaks post patch. I have started a new profile and using 100 tf/75 FFb, deadzones at zero. I have ZERO fading.

    I've had success across a few cars using the following in car settings.


    spindle
    master - 34
    fx - 70
    fy - 30 (based on cars I've tested if the steering feels too light I've gone up to as far as 40 (zakspeed ford), but I keep 30 as the baseline and adjust based on steering feel)
    fz - 120
    mz - 100


    SOP

    Sop scale - 30
    Lat - 80
    Diff - 80


    All other in car ffb settings default.

    Still experimenting based on the next car career mode throws me, but these baselines have worked quite nicely.

    Some gave a suggestion I read that has got me on my way of understanding the setting. if you zero all setting and drive one setting at a time on min-mid-max you will understand what they do.

    Lastly FFB does affect how the car handles (or how you handle the car) but it is also very subjective you will come to realize this once you figure out the settings.

    PS. Escuse punctuation and grammar - did this on the mobile.
    Last edited by LordDRIFT; 15-06-2015 at 14:00.
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    I'm going to check out those settings, thanks!
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    Tonight I had some time to tweak the FFB a bit after the 1.4 patch.

    Using the BMW Z4 on Watkins Glen, no ABS, Traction or Stability when tuning

    I created a series of Videos, each one, the Wheel Strength gets Progressively Stronger and Stronger.
    I Start with a light Feeling Wheel that has every subtle feeling that you see in the FFB monitor Graph, if you See it, you can feel it.

    As the Wheel Strength gets stronger, some of the Subtle Feelings get lost.
    The last video, I end with a Medium Wheel Weight, with Good Subtle Feeling.
    it's the One I'd use.

    Here's the base numbers I start with
    General FFB 75 Tire Force 100
    Most of the Wheel Strength is done By Adjusting These:
    Rel Adj Gain 0.52, Rel Adj Bleed 1.25, Rel Adj Clamp 0.46,

    Scoop knee 0.80, Scoop Reduction 0.15

    once you Find a Wheel Weight you Like, then for Each Car on Each track
    Tweak these.

    Spindle Master Scale 90
    Fx 40, Fy 10, Fz 100, Mz 50, Fy Smooth 10, Mz Smooth 10
    Arm 2800 or 2/3rds Max

    SoP Scale 70, SoP Lat 60, SoP Diff 70



    From Light to Very Strong Wheel Weight.

    Rel Adj Gain 0.52, Rel Adj Bleed 1.25, Rel Adj Clamp 0.46,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JNJOA2iX4M


    Rel Adj Gain 0.57, Rel Adj Bleed 0.75, Rel Adj Clamp 0.51,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSpHANs37nk

    Rel Adj Gain 0.72, Rel Adj Bleed 0.60, Rel Adj Clamp 0.66,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un6KXavAo04


    Rel Adj Gain 0.92, Rel Adj Bleed 0.35, Rel Adj Clamp 0.86,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igu-Qm5ens0


    Rel Adj Gain 1.02, Rel Adj Bleed 0.15, Rel Adj Clamp 0.96,
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtUj7hs786g


    Rel Adj Gain 1.07, Rel Adj Bleed 0.10, Rel Adj Clamp 1.0,
    Scoop knee 0.70, Scoop Reduction 0.10
    FFB 90 Tire Force 90
    Master 70 SoP 50
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yo_WWKHpm0


    Rel Adj Gain 1.07, Rel Adj Bleed 0, Rel Adj Clamp 1.0,
    Scoop knee 0.70, Scoop Reduction 0
    FFB 100 Tire Force 100
    Master 80 SoP 50
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLk_rnbKOMk


    This is the One I'd Use. A good Medium Wheel Weight.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kq4ASf-Hss
    FFB = 75 Tire Force =100
    Rel Gain = .82 Bleed = .65 Clamp = .76
    Scoop Knee = .80 Scoop reduction = .15
    SP Master = 90
    Fx 40, Fy 10, Fz 100, Mz 50, Fy Smooth 10, Mz Smooth 10, Arm 2800
    SoP Scale 60, Sop Lat 60, Sop Diff 70
    Last edited by wyldanimal; 16-06-2015 at 05:26.
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    I've had an issue whereby there's no FFB at all until I do a full reboot of my PS4. It happened before V1.4 if I got smashed into by an AI and the FFB just went ! Now it seems to happen regularly even from the start line. Also, if I crash or get hit, the FFB will sometimes go (not always, but mostly) plus my nice warm tyres will suddenly go stone cold and I'm left slipping and sliding around for two laps till they heat back up ?

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    With the T300RS, patch 1.4 and default in-game settings (actually, I've dialed down the FFB to 60), I've noticed a positive difference. The general wheel turning tension now feels correct, whereas before it was unaturally heavy. There's also now more emphasis on feeling the tyres slip and weight transfer through the FFB. Even the Clio now shares more charateristics and attributes with the FWD Fiat that I drive in real life.

    Before the patch, the FFB was meh, now it's what I expected it to be like originally. I'm very happy with the changes.

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    After some fiddling last night (ohhhhh Matron!) I'm now seeing the 1.4 patch in much more positive light with regards to FFB and overall feel of the wheel.

    Pre patch I had no qualms with how the game felt, but after the patch it felt a little off to what I was used to. But now I am really seeing the benefits and I'm finding that I can feel what the rear of the car is doing more and 'catching' it before it steps out.

    Chicanes are now a dream, where as before 1.4 I would more often or not make a real mess of them when pushing hard.
    "If in doubt, flat out" T300rs + Ferrari F1 = WIN!
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