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    Post G29 Discussions, Plus Support and Settings

    update #1 - Graph in line with the discussion.

    Hi guys!

    With the help of rocafella1978 and skoader, we're able to bring you yet another graph!

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    The online version is here.

    You can also do whatever you want with the actual sheet! Excel and Open Office format:G29 FFB Output.zip

    Have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocafella1978 View Post
    updated settings/ configuration on JULY 28th - also ZERO CLIPPING!!! see in ORANGE color, updated changes.


    1. Edit Assignments (if you want, maybe you can skip to save time)
    2. Calibrate Wheel
    3. Calibrate Pedals
    4. Configuration
    5. Calibrate Force Feedback
    6. Calibrate Pedals
    7. Calibrate Wheel
    8. Exit (Save Settings)



    G29 settings (NOTE: just highlighted in red color are changed, REST ARE DEFAULT VALUES!!!):
    Configuration:
    Steering Deadzone - 1
    Steering Sensitivity - 50
    Throttle Deadzone - 6
    Throttle Sensitivity - 50
    Brake Deadzone - 6
    Brake Sensitivity - 35
    Clutch Deadzone - 6
    Clutch Sensitivity - 35
    Speed Sensitivity - 0
    Controller Filter Sensitivity - 0
    Damper Saturation - 0
    Force Feedback - 100
    RPM/ Gear Display - YES
    Controller Input Mode - 3
    Advanced (Off, can't see bottom 3x options, they are not showing)

    Calibrate Force Feedback:
    Tire Force - 100
    Per Wheel Movement - 0.00
    Per Wheel Movement Squared - 0.00
    Wheel Position Smoothing - 0.04
    Deadzone Removal Range - 0.12(basically have to go all the way right or all the way left then come back to get the values)
    Deadzone Removal Falloff - 0.06(only DRF allows increments possible of 0.00 [??? no idea why] and increments of 0.01)

    Linkage Scale - 0.00
    Linkage Stiffness - 1.00
    Linkage Dampening - 1.00
    Relative Adjust Gain 0.98
    Relative Adjust Bleed - 0.10
    Relative Adjust Clamp - 0.96
    Scoop Knee - 0.54 (thx to @skoader - worked also like a charm, not sure what it does, but the feeling is better)
    Scoop Reduction - 0.16 (thx to @skoader - worked also like a charm, not sure what it does, but the feeling is better)

    Soft Clipping (Half Input) - 4.00 (basically have to go all the way right or all the way left then come back to get the values)
    Soft Clipping (Full Output) - 8.19 (here 8.00 is not possible on CONSOLE...fine increments to available, huge jumps only possible...)

    I did all my tests with BMW Z4 GT3 vehicle, with Jack Spade Classic settings.

    • ZERO CLIPPING/ NO CLIPPING at all!
    • of course, only BMW Z4 GT3 tested, but have to test with various cars and etc.
      • but so far across a good amount of GP and International tracks, I had NO CLIPPING at all.

    so feel free to test it out and post what you think or if you had other issues or recommend other settings, questions, comments and more, hopefully to help each other out and new G29 owners.
    Last edited by Roger Prynne; 17-08-2015 at 13:18.

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    Quickly, we can see the DRR is 0.16. For now, i'm keeping my stance for DRF where a ratio of 2:1 to 4:1 is good. So DRF between 0.04 and 0.08.

    On the online version, the Scoops calculation brings the 2 values to Knee 0.38 while Reduction could move between 0.26 and 0.49.

    However, take those with a grain of salt. I don't have access to a G29. I didn't test them.

    This will be your job, happy G29 owners!

    Cheers!
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    thank you so much! will test and report back, will try to do a little video of it all and report back. just because I really have no clue, would you be kind so explain the abreviations you are using above?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocafella1978 View Post
    thank you so much! will test and report back, will try to do a little video of it all and report back. just because I really have no clue, would you be kind so explain the abreviations you are using above?
    Deadzone Removal Range / Deadzone Removal Falloff
    Scoop Knee / Scoop Reduction

    There's an official guide in the general section that expain all that and much more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by poirqc View Post
    Deadzone Removal Range / Deadzone Removal Falloff
    Scoop Knee / Scoop Reduction

    There's an official guide in the general section that expain all that and much more!
    thank you, appreciate your efforts and your patience to help!

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    Exclamation

    G29 on PS4 - default settings: (only setting I had changed was TIRE FORCE to 94) now trying to fine tune/ dial it in. (hard on PS4 since we do not have the increments available to us on PC...huge jumps on PS4 when you move the slider!)

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    this is the software (screenshots) for Logitech downloaded on their website, if anyone has a better website please do let me know.
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    64-bit version: http://www.logitech.com/pub/techsupp...4_Logitech.exe
    32-bit version: http://www.logitech.com/pub/techsupp...6_Logitech.exe

    since this is all new to me, I got wheelchecker from iRacing forum, here below also whoever needs it. (version 1.72)
    WheelCheck_1_72.zip

    if anyone has suggestions or recommendations please do let me know or us know in the G29 thread here and G29 users.
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    I still can't get the G29 to work with Pcars on the PC.
    I think the Profile is bugged.
    The biggest issue is none of the Cars Have the DOR set. (except the ones that are 900)

    and cluch pedal doesn't work also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poirqc View Post
    Quickly, we can see the DRR is 0.16. For now, i'm keeping my stance for DRF where a ratio of 2:1 to 4:1 is good. So DRF between 0.04 and 0.08.

    On the online version, the Scoops calculation brings the 2 values to Knee 0.38 while Reduction could move between 0.26 and 0.49.

    However, take those with a grain of salt. I don't have access to a G29. I didn't test them.

    This will be your job, happy G29 owners!

    Cheers!
    do you think i should leave "Steering Deadzone=1" or change to "0"

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    Quote Originally Posted by poirqc View Post
    Quickly, we can see the DRR is 0.16. For now, i'm keeping my stance for DRF where a ratio of 2:1 to 4:1 is good. So DRF between 0.04 and 0.08.

    On the online version, the Scoops calculation brings the 2 values to Knee 0.38 while Reduction could move between 0.26 and 0.49.

    However, take those with a grain of salt. I don't have access to a G29. I didn't test them.

    This will be your job, happy G29 owners!

    Cheers!
    hi @poirqc, thanks again for your help. I changed the following, and was wondering if you an give me tips, what do i need to look for to know it is better? feels better? FFB telemetry?

    these are the values I changed:
    Deadzone Removal Range = 0.16
    Deadzone Removal Falloff = 0.04
    Scoop Knee = 0.36
    Scoop Reduction = 0.28


    and Tire Force = 49 (this I had done before already)

    so the increments are only possible, NO fine tuning like on the PC is possible on PS4:
    1) if you put slider all the way left first, then come back, they go by 0.04, 0.4 or 4
    2) if you put slider all the way right first, then come back, they go by 0.06, 0.6 or 6
    only setting which goes by 0.01 is:
    3) DRF (Deadzone Removal Falloff) - only setting where increments are by 0.01 and has positive "+0.00" and negative "-0.00" ??? is there a difference?


    thanks again.
    Last edited by rocafella1978; 22-07-2015 at 22:55.

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    rocafella1978
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    so after going back and forth, not sure what to look for and how it should feel (guess that's the main problem...)
    but this is what i found to work for me with (tiny bit of clipping, just don't know how to get rid of it in right hand turns...)

    these are the values I changed and feels "good"? to me.
    Deadzone Removal Range = 0.16
    Deadzone Removal Falloff = 0.08
    Scoop Knee = 0.36
    Scoop Reduction = 0.30

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