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    Before patch 4.0 I was always using the Immersion settings, even if I tried every other: with the following settings:100:70:0:20. So now, after patch iīm using Custom with Jack Spade mid Comp, using: 100:60:10:21, and I have to say that with jack spadeīs I can feel tires lock, slip and oversteering, things that i only feeled in some cars before patch. Iīm sure it is not a placebo effect, because it really feels different. Iīve tried other settings after patch, because with Porsche Gt3 (race spec) i found the car very different, I could not lap the same as before, it seamed less planted, I really can say for sure, but now I feel all the height on the back, really different from a front engine or middle engine car, fantastic.. but slower, well it seams slower.

    Jack spade with 100:50-70:0:21 it is really another world, I cannot understand why before patch 4.0 I didnīt liked the custom file, now it is marvellous!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pferreirag60 View Post
    Before patch 4.0 I was always using the Immersion settings, even if I tried every other: with the following settings:100:70:0:20. So now, after patch iīm using Custom with Jack Spade mid Comp, using: 100:60:10:21, and I have to say that with jack spadeīs I can feel tires lock, slip and oversteering, things that i only feeled in some cars before patch. Iīm sure it is not a placebo effect, because it really feels different. Iīve tried other settings after patch, because with Porsche Gt3 (race spec) i found the car very different, I could not lap the same as before, it seamed less planted, I really can say for sure, but now I feel all the height on the back, really different from a front engine or middle engine car, fantastic.. but slower, well it seams slower.

    Jack spade with 100:50-70:0:21 it is really another world, I cannot understand why before patch 4.0 I didnīt liked the custom file, now it is marvellous!
    Same. I got a little time in with them yesterday, and his files felt a lot different. I'm not using his new ones, with the car-specific Tone settings. But the previous version feels different now. Although, I'm wondering if it was a corrupted Custom file. The last time I tried Jack's files was quite a while ago, before that corruption issue was known. Either way, I definitely have better slip feel now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haiden View Post
    Same. I got a little time in with them yesterday, and his files felt a lot different. I'm not using his new ones, with the car-specific Tone settings. But the previous version feels different now. Although, I'm wondering if it was a corrupted Custom file. The last time I tried Jack's files was quite a while ago, before that corruption issue was known. Either way, I definitely have better slip feel now.
    Youīre missing some things then.
    BTW since the early WMD days Iīm extremely fiddling with tweaker and custom files but never ever had a corrupted file, values are what they are and work as intended.
    There maybe bugs and issues in the system that often can be cured by rebuilding the profile and controller, WMD experience, but I canīt recall an incident where it was
    necessary for me to do since game release. Also, the standard and alt custom files as such have not changed since months and the FFB system did not change either,
    besides some tire and car updates lately, if it now feels better to you with the same settings, would you exclude a placebo?
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    PC 2 - Custom Files here: http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sho...=1#post1358152
    PC 1 - V3.1.1 - FFB Tweaker Files here: http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sho...l=1#post891198
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Spade View Post
    Youīre missing some things then.
    BTW since the early WMD days Iīm extremely fiddling with tweaker and custom files but never ever had a corrupted file, values are what they are and work as intended.
    There maybe bugs and issues in the system that often can be cured by rebuilding the profile and controller, WMD experience, but I canīt recall an incident where it was
    necessary for me to do since game release. Also, the standard and alt custom files as such have not changed since months and the FFB system did not change either,
    besides some tire and car updates lately, if it now feels better to you with the same settings, would you exclude a placebo?
    Could be. I didn't think the FFB had changed and the Raw and Default Custom files don't feel any different than they did after I refreshed the Controller file. Your files were the only ones I had tried since refreshing the Controller file. Are you saying the corruption issue with the Controller file doesn't actually happen?

    I'd like to try the new files, but don't like the idea of constantly adjusting the settings per car. Right now, the old files feel better than the defaults, so it's still an improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haiden View Post
    Could be. I didn't think the FFB had changed and the Raw and Default Custom files don't feel any different than they did after I refreshed the Controller file. Your files were the only ones I had tried since refreshing the Controller file. Are you saying the corruption issue with the Controller file doesn't actually happen?

    I'd like to try the new files, but don't like the idea of constantly adjusting the settings per car. Right now, the old files feel better than the defaults, so it's still an improvement.
    No, it just didnīt happen on my system.
    Thereīs no per car save option so whatīs the solution then other than adjusting in order to make the best of it?
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    PC 2 - Custom Files here: http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sho...=1#post1358152
    PC 1 - V3.1.1 - FFB Tweaker Files here: http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sho...l=1#post891198

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Spade View Post
    No, it just didnīt happen on my system.
    Thereīs no per car save option so whatīs the solution then other than adjusting in order to make the best of it?
    I know, that sucks. It had to be set per-car in PCars1, but didn't need to be for FFB. Now FFB needs to be set per-car, but it's no longer an option.

    There is no solution. I downloaded the new files, but, for now, I just decided to keep the old files, because I don't want to have to change the lookup the balance every time I switch cars. IDK... If I start putting more time into PCars, I might give them a shot.

    Also, I was never a fan of SoP in PCars1. I heard that's one of the things you added. Is that true?
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    Some of Jack's files do have SoP; they are clearly labeled as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haiden View Post
    I know, that sucks. It had to be set per-car in PCars1, but didn't need to be for FFB. Now FFB needs to be set per-car, but it's no longer an option.

    There is no solution. I downloaded the new files, but, for now, I just decided to keep the old files, because I don't want to have to change the lookup the balance every time I switch cars. IDK... If I start putting more time into PCars, I might give them a shot.

    Also, I was never a fan of SoP in PCars1. I heard that's one of the things you added. Is that true?
    "Sop" is completely inaccurate, we have SopLateral and SopDifferential, itīs like apples and oranges, detailed info about it all within the zip file.
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    PC 2 - Custom Files here: http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sho...=1#post1358152
    PC 1 - V3.1.1 - FFB Tweaker Files here: http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sho...l=1#post891198

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Spade View Post
    "Sop" is completely inaccurate, we have SopLateral and SopDifferential, itīs like apples and oranges, detailed info about it all within the zip file.
    Why is calling it "Sop" inaccurate? SopLateral or SopDifferential... I realize they are two different things, but I didn't like the feel of either in PCars1 and had them set to zero. I simply wasn't a fan.

    I have read the Sop ReadMe texts, though. It's just too much fiddling for me. I'm going to stick with the Traditional 2.0 files.
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    What is the general consensus of the ffb in Pcars2 from the experts? I'm pretty much at my wits end & constantly fiddling with settings is just pcars continued from the first game. I can find more better cars than the first game & it can at times feel ok but it feels like a minefield from car to car still & fee i just can't set it up forget about it like i can in other sims.
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