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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimeyDog View Post
    Have you tried it with the lower settings yet??? Im testing it with 8.0 now... sooo far Nothing Needs to be adjusted

    You can still abuse the tires in 8.0 with No Tire Heat issues


    Can you edit your Post and Add MZ =50 (before 100)



    set up is very flexible 50Fz, 50 SoP lat, 50 Mz feels good Also it all depend on how much of these forces you want to feel... all FFB Feel is still there just at 50% strength...wheel feels good is lively but also much tamer
    Grimey. they do at least get hot and stay there in a race without cooling off. I just tried one. I don't know what all the guys are complaining about with lack of grip. I tried the clio and its way better than before. Anyways did you try with the old settings because it seems stronger to me. Maybe its a t300 thing because I'm not the only one that thinks so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimeyDog View Post
    IMO they were just thrown together to Give a general feel, That's why they were all just set to 100 and Not put together in a way that would give best feel, The 26 Master was just set in Place IMO because that's where they set it and even though fy,Fx,Etc: was set to 100 you could use stock settings and not clipping.

    If those settings had any Rhyme or reason they would feel better than they do at default in car settings... JMO

    Edit: also if there were any blue print on how to set up the FFB they would have set up at least 1 car at Pcars launch for us so we could know how it was to be done. Now the funny thing is even after many downloadable car pack 20 i believe and 8 major game patch updates they have not even sent us a car that has been tuned by them(SMS) to show how its supposed to be done... POW i Rest my case...LOL
    Quote Originally Posted by tennenbaum View Post
    yep. general feel. 26 and 100 were just balanced in a way that you don't get clipping.

    the longer i look at the FFB system and the freedom the devs gave us, the more i feel the devs made a great but risky decision: They followed a pretty pure honest philosophy: They "opened" the "spots" in the computation paths where they had to "tweak and twist" manually as well anyway, because in each sim there have to be individual subjective "weightings" by humans. So instead of using their own subjective an erratic assumptions to pre-define the settings per default, they decided to leave that to the players, under the premise, that each person's idea about how the "right" FFB feeling should feel like must be a subjective feel "per se". They've been also under economical pressure - who of the team has time to tweak all the cars, even without having the chance to know how all these cars feel in reality. I say it's a pure and honest philosophy because in it's core and true nature a sim is a not-absolute, but relative, experience. It's also honest IMO in so far that sims who pretend that they can really simulate hundreds of different cars can't be right. By offering 100/100/100/100 SMS is giving us (on purpose or not) a hint how to "use" the sim in ways that please us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morpwr View Post
    Grimey. they do at least get hot and stay there in a race without cooling off. I just tried one. I don't know what all the guys are complaining about with lack of grip. I tried the clio and its way better than before. Anyways did you try with the old settings because it seems stronger to me. Maybe its a t300 thing because I'm not the only one that thinks so.
    its a tad bit stronger now because you have more Grip Feel... if the cars FFB still feels good and its just stronger/heavier than you want I would reduce the game master FFB by 5. That's what i had to do for the XB1 last update and every thing went right back to the Norm.
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    Congrats on hitting the tonne in forum pages G Dog .

    By the way i finally got the low 107's around The Glen 107.186 , fastest Ruf on leader board.
    It's all about the right left right chacaine then the big right sweeper .
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDad View Post
    Congrats on hitting the tonne in forum pages G Dog .

    By the way i finally got the low 107's around The Glen 107.186 , fastest Ruf on leader board.
    It's all about the right left right chacaine then the big right sweeper .
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    Sorry bout the pic . LOL
    You guys are killing me. I gotta practice more.lol
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    Grimey Dog asked me to post my Fanatec 911 GT2 wheel settings

    TF 98
    PWM 0.00
    PWMS 0.00
    WPS 0.04
    DRR 0.11
    DRF 0.01
    Linkages all stock
    RAG 0.98
    RAB 0.12
    RAC 0.92
    S.K 0.68
    S.R 0.16
    No clipping
    MSS 0.10
    LSSC 0.50
    LSSS 0.74
    S G 100
    In game ffb is at 25 .
    And Mr Jack Spade 66 incar .
    Hope that helps some =)

    Updated these
    http://pcars.oscarolim.pt/wheel-sett...owse/ps4-7/163
    Last edited by BigDad; 06-03-2016 at 11:00.
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    I Re worked some settings so the FFB Effects and "Mz" are not as strong try these and let me know what you think Feels really good full Dynamic FFB range with Milder FFB effects strength.

    spindle master scale = 100
    Fx = 2
    Fy = 30
    Fz = 50 (before 100)
    Mz =50 (before 100)

    arm angle = 1500 stock what ever is per car don't change it!!!

    SoP master scale = 100
    SoP Lat = 10
    SoP Diff = 50 (before 100)

    SoP Damp = 0


    TF = 100 (Before 98)

    RAG =1.00 (Before 98)
    RAB =.12
    RAC =.92

    SCHI = 0
    SCFO = 0

    SK = 0.68
    SR = 0.18

    Menu Spring = 0.25 or what ever you like only affects wheel at main menu
    Low Speed Spring Coefficient = 0.75
    Low speed Steering saturation = 1.00

    Steering gain = 1.00

    Game Master FFB (PS4) CSW v2 =35 other wheels set per your wheel.

    Thanx tennenbaum for typing these setting in on the post
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    I think gain lower and clamp higher is going to be the way to go but clamp always higher than gain maybe????

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    Hi guys ! I did a total fresh install, and wow the difference between corrupted game patch 7 and fresh one patch 8 is HUGE ! So last night I was tweaking again, and yes the grip is sooo better than before, but I have great difficulties to obtain something remembering me the brake feeling I had before. Whe I brake hard, I can feel some, but for the "normal" braking area I feel nothing but the grip at the end of braking. All other forces are well shaped, I use morpwr's last base tune for the ruf. And you guys, can you feel correctly the braking forces ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotdirt410sprintcar View Post
    I think gain lower and clamp higher is going to be the way to go but clamp always higher than gain maybe????
    I found you have to carefull with clamp it will get to a point it grabs the wheel for a split second. Its like everything else in here theres a tradeoff.
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