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    helped me once with this game. whats your point anyway ? my point is i'd rather to have this simple backup solution than nothing at all. if your local data gets corrupted and if the cloud has still has a clean copy it helps. if both copies are screwed its not worse than having local storage only option. also keep in mind this goes for everything else you might have on xbox like your profile data, other game saves etc so if you are advocating for local storage only and your hard drive fails you are back to square one on everything. if for whatever bizarre reason thats your preference its fine but i prefer to have at least a simple backup in place than nothing at all.

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    I've yet to see the saved version rescue a corrupted local version. It seems like it's much more likely the other way around. Every time I've had a problem both copies were corrupted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baz00ka View Post
    helped me once with this game. whats your point anyway ? my point is i'd rather to have this simple backup solution than nothing at all. if your local data gets corrupted and if the cloud has still has a clean copy it helps. if both copies are screwed its not worse than having local storage only option. also keep in mind this goes for everything else you might have on xbox like your profile data, other game saves etc so if you are advocating for local storage only and your hard drive fails you are back to square one on everything. if for whatever bizarre reason thats your preference its fine but i prefer to have at least a simple backup in place than nothing at all.
    It's possibly worse than nothing if it's causing the database to become corrupted. Read Optical's post above. That's what my point is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixoye56 View Post
    Is it really necessary to reinstall everything, it is not enough to just uninstall the save file?
    No, it's not necessary at all to reinstall everything. At the same time, it doesn't hurt anything at all to uninstall the game and all DLC. Do so may or may not improve the game's performance after deleting local/cloud save files, but when the only impact on doing a complete reinstall is time, doesn't it make sense to do everything possible to improve all aspects of performance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by baz00ka View Post
    helped me once with this game. whats your point anyway ? my point is i'd rather to have this simple backup solution than nothing at all. if your local data gets corrupted and if the cloud has still has a clean copy it helps. ...
    The problem here is that it is never the local files that get corrupted, only the online files. That is the root of this problem. Currently you can delete your local save files and download a "clean" copy from the cloud, but there is no way to delete only the cloud file and re-upload a "clean" copy from the xbox. There is also no way to externally back up the save files that are on your xbox, at least I haven't found one. I would LOVE to be able to set aside a pen drive and do weekly backups of my local save files. Microsoft assumes that the cloud backup is all you need, but when that is the file being corrupted, there is no way at all to recover/revert from any other known-good file.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OpticalHercules View Post
    The problem here is that it is never the local files that get corrupted, only the online files. That is the root of this problem. Currently you can delete your local save files and download a "clean" copy from the cloud, but there is no way to delete only the cloud file and re-upload a "clean" copy from the xbox. There is also no way to externally back up the save files that are on your xbox, at least I haven't found one. I would LOVE to be able to set aside a pen drive and do weekly backups of my local save files. Microsoft assumes that the cloud backup is all you need, but when that is the file being corrupted, there is no way at all to recover/revert from any other known-good file.
    Because it would never occur to them that their cloud might fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OpticalHercules View Post
    The problem here is that it is never the local files that get corrupted, only the online files. That is the root of this problem. Currently you can delete your local save files and download a "clean" copy from the cloud, but there is no way to delete only the cloud file and re-upload a "clean" copy from the xbox. There is also no way to externally back up the save files that are on your xbox, at least I haven't found one. I would LOVE to be able to set aside a pen drive and do weekly backups of my local save files. Microsoft assumes that the cloud backup is all you need, but when that is the file being corrupted, there is no way at all to recover/revert from any other known-good file.
    The preview forums have at least a dozen threads asking for the export save feature. Maybe after Windows 10 we will have this option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheReaper GT View Post
    The preview forums have at least a dozen threads asking for the export save feature. Maybe after Windows 10 we will have this option.
    Wasn't aware of those. I hadn't even tried to do a local hard-backup either. I know I can move data from one drive to another if I hook up a USB drive to the xbox, but I don't remember there being a copy function. I was also very hopeful to find such a function in the Windows 10 Xbox app, but that would probably open a huge can of worms with people being able to manipulate those files in ways Microsoft would never support.

    I wonder if I could hook up an external drive, move files to it, then disconnect it and then hook it up to a PC to backup there, then reconnect to xbox and move the files back there. Heck of a lot of hassle if you intend to do that as a weekly backup kind of thing, but maybe doable. Only problem then is whether xbox formats the drive in such a way as to make it unusable to a PC. If a Windows OS couldn't read the file, I wonder if some Linux or Mac OS might be able to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OpticalHercules View Post
    Wasn't aware of those. I hadn't even tried to do a local hard-backup either. I know I can move data from one drive to another if I hook up a USB drive to the xbox, but I don't remember there being a copy function. I was also very hopeful to find such a function in the Windows 10 Xbox app, but that would probably open a huge can of worms with people being able to manipulate those files in ways Microsoft would never support.

    I wonder if I could hook up an external drive, move files to it, then disconnect it and then hook it up to a PC to backup there, then reconnect to xbox and move the files back there. Heck of a lot of hassle if you intend to do that as a weekly backup kind of thing, but maybe doable. Only problem then is whether xbox formats the drive in such a way as to make it unusable to a PC. If a Windows OS couldn't read the file, I wonder if some Linux or Mac OS might be able to...
    Actually you can do a full drive back-up manually. A friend of mine changed his internal drive to a 2gb hybrid and did a manual back-up. I don't know how, but you can ask him (gamertag luisdurieux).

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