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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Flare View Post
    Trust me, you don't need technical knowledge to put your own together. It's easier than Lego. Everything has it's own slot or plug, everything is pretty much labled, and nearly everything goes in 1 way.

    If needed, look up some assembly tutorials on Youtube, theres loads of them.

    EDIT: Also, all of those PCs you listed have i7 processors. Unless you plan to do things that need hyperthreading, you don't need it, and no game (right now at least) actually utilizes what an i7 can do. An i5 would do the job just fine.


    Except PCars LOVES more cores and threads!

    Project Cars and TombRaiders (and many other games) recommended specs are an i7? So not sure why you say no game utilises them, they categorically "recommended" them.

    PROJECT CARS RECOMMENDED SPEC
    CPU – 3.5 GHz Intel Core i7 3700, 4.0 GHz AMD FX-8350
    GRAPHICS – nVidia GT600 series, AMD Radeon HD7000 series
    MEMORY – 8Gb RAM, 2Gb VRAM


    RISE OF THE TOMB RAIDER RECOMMENDED
    Processor: Intel Core i7-3770, 3.40GHz or AMD FX-8350, 4.0Ghz
    Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 or AMD Radeon R9 290x
    RAM: 8 GB RAM
    DirectX: Version 11
    Hard Disk Space: 30GB


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    CPU: Intel CPU Core i7 3770 3,4 GHz // AMD CPU AMD FX-8350 4 GHz
    GPU: Nvidia GPU GeForce GTX 770 // AMD GPU Radeon R9 290
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    OS 64-bit Windows 7 or 64-bit Windows 8 (8.1)
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    THE DIVISION RECOMMENDED CONFIGURATION
    Supported OS: Windows 7, Windows 8.1, Windows 10 (64-bit versions only)
    Processor: Intel Core i7-3770 | AMD FX-8350, or better.
    RAM: 8GB
    Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 | AMD Radeon R9 290, or better – See supported List*

    JUST CAUSE 3 RECOMMENDED

    OS: Vista SP2, Win 7 SP1, Win 8.1 (64-bit Operating System Required)
    CPU: Intel Core i7-3770, 3.4 GHz | AMD FX-8350, 4.0 GHz
    Memory: 8 GB Ram
    Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 (3GB) | AMD R9 290 (4GB)

    The list goes on and on and on....
    Most games "recommend" an i7 and it's becoming more and more frequent as we move forward.
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    While most recently released games do recommend an i7, it is arguable how much of a difference there is between performance of equivalent i5 and i7 processors. They really just recommend them to cover themselves from backlash, that is what recommended specs have turned into. I still think for a gaming machine an i5 with a more powerful GPU with the saved money is a more viable option today.

    Now once DX12 starts to be used we might see some real difference between i5 and i7 performance, but that is still a whiles off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silraed View Post
    While most recently released games do recommend an i7, it is arguable how much of a difference there is between performance of equivalent i5 and i7 processors. They really just recommend them to cover themselves from backlash, that is what recommended specs have turned into. I still think for a gaming machine an i5 with a more powerful GPU with the saved money is a more viable option today.

    Now once DX12 starts to be used we might see some real difference between i5 and i7 performance, but that is still a whiles off.
    There is a disparity between an i5 and an i7 even in PCars. Most of these games listed above rum far superior on an i7 just watch the benches at DF etc.

    If he is going to drop £1349 (-15% family discount) on a PC for gaming. And TODAYS games "recommend" an i7... Well, it would be stupid to invest in an i5 for tomorrow, Imo based on my setup and my jump to an i7 from an i5 I saw a lot of improvement in many areas of gaming, particularly today's CPU heavy games such as Assasins Creed / PCars etc

    We have 8 core consoles so 4+4HT makes sense moving forward. Tomb Raider is a prime example. Even a 980TI AND an i7 can't run it at 1080p 60FPS!

    I'm not saying it's demanding, I'm saying it's been build from the ground up for consoles, so the port will run better with 8 threads.

    Even an i3 and a 750TI can only do 13FPS on the lowest possible settings on TombRaider and I expect we will see a lot of that to come.

    Check The DF review and check the 980Ti Skylake builds that benched ROTTR. They can't do constant 60FPS on very high, because this and many like it are coded specifically for 8 core consoles and are ported over. If I were him I would buy a 980TI and an i7 without question at those prices (with his 15% discount) as it's cheaper than a self build.
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    Maybe that will help? 6000$ rig with 20 games, real life test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rauf0 View Post
    Maybe that will help? 6000$ rig with 20 games, real life test.

    Ultimate PC RIG overview test | 20 games with overclock Titan X SLI X99

    Now that's a little over budget
    According the Nvidia, even 2 Titan X in SLI won't net you a solid 60fps on ROTTR @ 1080p :-/


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    Thanks to all of you for the excellent advice. I think I'm going to hold off for a little while and wait for the next batch of offers my wife can get through work. I've plenty of PS4 games to be going on with so in no rush. I guess the offered packages will improve later in the year and I'll get more bang for my Buck.

    Anyone got experience with requirements for editing and rendering 4K video these days? My pro video editing PC was running premiere Pro 2 editing 1080HD but it definitely won't do more than that. Just wondering how those PC's would cope. I imagine the i7 would help there.
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    If you're going to be editing and rendering 4k video, get an i7.
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    I had my new system built by Scan last month, it worked out barely much more than building it myself, they did a top notch job and I had a 3 year warranty. I'd recommend this route over a self build or off the shelf model, as you get the benefits of choosing your own parts(which will be of a higher quality than those in an off the shelf model), with the security of not messing up the assembly (although its not that difficult really).

    As an example, mine is of a similar spec to the HP Phoenix, only I had a 980Ti, and was £250 less
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Flare View Post
    If you're going to be editing and rendering 4k video, get an i7.
    Totally worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSchoonsBeard View Post
    ....Anyone got experience with requirements for editing and rendering 4K video these days? My pro video editing PC was running premiere Pro 2 editing 1080HD but it definitely won't do more than that. Just wondering how those PC's would cope. I imagine the i7 would help there.
    Current version of Premier Pro 100% and definitely go with an beefy i7 and 16 or more gigs of RAM. My 10-15 minute 4K YT videos take around 5-7 hours to render - 4K/60fps, 2 pass encoding, high bitrate, profile on high, 5.2 level, and max render quality checked at the bottom. Work flow is record and edit at night (12am - 1am), trip off render before bed, pop up early to trip the YT upload off, and around 12pm - 1pm video is on the channel. Takes a few hours for 4K to process on YT so looking at a publish in the afternoon the next day. Best bet if you plan on uploading is working on a backlog - I tend to keep 3-4 fully processed (4K) videos on my channel private for each new video. Video quality is awesome but does take some time to get there.

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