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    ^^Well, just sitting in the pitlane, stoped and no AI it's visible for me by just moving my head


    That's weird. I'd have to really turn things up like AA to get that. I did mess with some settings in my NVidia Control Panel the other day and it caused some strange stutter in AC. I reset it to default and it went away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiago Fortuna View Post
    Well, I could write ( i just did but deleted ) and develop on the subject. I'll just say that AC is still my last choice for a sim, even if we speak VR only.

    But to hopefully avoid flaming, it's probably due to revive. I just can't get rid of the microstutter even alone at the track. There are other issues but this alone is a game breaker because it does not help *me* with nausea and headaches.
    Hope to avoid flaming also, but honest question, why the last choice for sim?

    I've seen that thrown around here and other sites and have always wondered why. Tbh, since I've put down pcars1 I have about 500 hrs in AC vs a measly 75 in pcars2. VR experience has been great in AC and the overall experience has been smooth. A lot of that is due to league admins running top notch stuff but really don't get whats so wrong with AC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beetes_juice View Post
    I have about 500 hrs in AC vs a measly 75 in pcars2.
    You mean 75 hrs on pCARS1, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beetes_juice View Post
    I have about 500 hrs in AC vs a measly 75 in pcars
    With me it's the other way around 300something + at least 200 before it was on Steam for PCars. I don't even remember if the counter reset when it went gold on Steam and we used our code. AC has 150 hours even though I have all DLC minus Japanese. Starting to sound expensive when I put it this way.....
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    Nearly 1000h on pC1 and still not half some others have. And this is just after being on steam, obviously.

    /edit because I missed Beetes_juice post

    Let's just say personal preference. I don't want thread to derail plus, you know, simworld, expectations and all that. Too much debate and in the end we'll just agree to disagree Got better with v10 on ALL cars though.

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    Now that you mention it I THINK I've changed the v-sync to fast... but still... in all games (not just sims) in VR it's the only one that does this
    And to me and my eyes it really is a pain, literally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiago Fortuna View Post
    @Cuba Now that you mention it I THINK I've changed the v-sync to fast... but still... in all games (not just sims) in VR it's the only one that does this
    And to me and my eyes it really is a pain, literally.
    I don't limit any frames and disable "Interleaved Reprojection" in SteamVR. I disable Post Processing (some people say they can run with PP, I can't, makes things blurry and drops FPS) and I set AAx2. Turn "Anisotropic filtering" all the way up x16 (no big hit on FPS/performance), makes long distance objects cleaner. I'm hitting a fairly constant 87 FPS with good graphics. Not trying to push you to AC, but really confused as to why you are having such a hard time with the VR, looking at your rig, you and I should be seeing similar performance. In the end, it probably won't matter since you don't play AC much, but It'd be nice for you to get a comparison between AC (which most agree is the best sim experience performance wise in VR) to pCARS1 and 2.
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    I had fast-vsync enable for triple-screen. I just don't know if I ever disable it. Been a few updates of drivers and I do clean installs but might have kept the habit of enable that.

    Again though... just AC. no other game (even with revive) does this. I don't run PP either... seriously, I can't even see with that enabled (don't know if it changed by now).

    I don't recall other settings though.

    For quite a while though, it's more that I don't play at all (when I do I want to test pC2, OBVIOUSLY )

    BTW, ist there a way to see the FPS in VR now? I recall I've struggled to find an answer before. I can tell you if there's even a hint of stutter though as in VR is quite noticeable and not just on the eyes (for me).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiago Fortuna View Post
    I had fast-vsync enable for triple-screen. I just don't know if I ever disable it. Been a few updates of drivers and I do clean installs but might have kept the habit of enable that.

    Again though... just AC. no other game (even with revive) does this. I don't run PP either... seriously, I can't even see with that enabled (don't know if it changed by now).

    I don't recall other settings though.

    For quite a while though, it's more that I don't play at all (when I do I want to test pC2, OBVIOUSLY )

    BTW, ist there a way to see the FPS in VR now? I recall I've struggled to find an answer before. I can tell you if there's even a hint of stutter though as in VR is quite noticeable and not just on the eyes (for me).
    Completely understand spending your time on pCARS2, lucky dog! WRT FPS in VR, the Vive has some funky "Frames Missed" graph that is confusing as $h!t. You can activate it to show on the right hand Vive controller. You have to actually twist the controller to see the graph (it's on the outside edge of the controller, when viewed through headset obviously ). Great idea, but sucks for driving games. I use MSI Afterburner and just pull the headset down to do a quick check on the monitor. Fortunately, I have it all dialed in now so I don't have to check FPS unless I make a change to settings or try a different track which may seem like a performance hog.
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    BTW, if SMS needs more VR testers for pCARS2 I'll gladly sacrifice my time
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    The missed frames showed up directly in the HMD. Never used the controller for it... maybe it has changed. I also don't remember seeing FPS there.

    But if I have to use that I rather call my daughter so she tells me the FPS on the monitor with MSI:A

    wrt to pc2, you're late BUT don't despair... I'm sure we'll have the opportunity to pC3. I know i'll be there if so
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