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    Pcars2: Sim or Simcade?

    I was wondering what the average opinion is here about Pcars2 being a real (semi-pro consumer) Sim or more of a Simcade or somewhere in between?
    I've seen some discussions online where people believe AC and Iracing have more Sim elements than Pcars2.
    I must say I haven't played both (Iracing very briefly but I didn't like the ffb) but I was curious for your opinions on how they or any other racing game compare to Pcars2 from Sim perspective.
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    Yeah. It's the usual chatter about sims. People brag about being good in a "sim" that has the least amount of traction possible and for them everything else is "simcade". I believe most of those ranters on youtube and in other forums did never drive a real car.

    Only thing I can say is that my BMW feels almost exactly the same when losing traction as the one ingame. For me it's a sim.

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    Since this is usually a topic that brings up a lot of emotion and discussion, please keep it civil.

    As a first, I would recommend to start with defining "sim"
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    It's certainly intended to be a sim . Any "simcade" discussion will certainly be be fiercely challenged .


    I will say, coming from the world of flight sims as they have evolved in the past 30 years+ years I have played them . That the engine, vehicle dynamics, physics and tire modeling are simulated rather well . The in car systems are very simplified . (i.e. dynamic drive modes in modern high performance cars are not modeled , no variable (only 2 speeds) speed wipers, etc..)
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    Professional racing has to deal with weather elements. AC has no dynamic weather or rain. Sure, the rest of it is pretty well done, but it just doesnt compare to the overall experience that pCARS2 delivers.

    I consider this game to be a sim. Even more so than some of these other sims (AC or Iracing) that get hailed as the best of the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remco Van Dijk View Post
    Since this is usually a topic that brings up a lot of emotion and discussion, please keep it civil.

    As a first, I would recommend to start with defining "sim"
    That's actually the first thing that went through my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remco Van Dijk View Post
    Since this is usually a topic that brings up a lot of emotion and discussion, please keep it civil.
    My first instinct was to think this was a troll post , but I gave the OP the benefit of doubt. I'm just a cynical old man at this point
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    Does it really matter? Why does it have to have a label? Some people like to categorize things so they can brag about that, to me it's just doesn't matter. Most of these games have some things in them that people class as arcade but that's to make them more playable and fun, doesn't make them worse sims.
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    it is a sim, but console oriented.

    so he has a good realistic physics (tyre edge is something superlative), but lack of some features a sim should have (and the other sim have) cause -my opinion- they can't or don't wnat spend time to implement it on consoles.
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