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    No difference in car handling after tuning.

    Today my racing mate sended me a message with a couple of issues he had with Project Cars 2.
    One of them was that he couldn't feel any difference when he tuned the car.
    The first car and track we tried was the Porsche GT4 on Long Beach. He said it was bouncing/jumping a lot, i could feel this, but not much. I tried to minimize all the spring, damper, bumpstop values to its lowest settings and didn't feel any difference, then i maximized all the settings to it's highest settings and the feeling was still the same. We double checked if teh correct settings where saved. My own experience with pcars1 this would result in a totally undrivable car, but now i drove the same laptime's as before.

    After this i tried the old Caterham and the only thing i could feel on minimal settings where the soft springs bounce and the car bottoming out. For the rest of the car handling still no difference noticable.

    Last friday i was driving on an RWB vs ART event and i drove the ferarri 488 GT3 on the Red Bull Ring and couldn't manage to get a good feeling with the setup. So i tried the same thing today, minimized and maximized all the settings......still no difference in feeling and laptime's.

    Next monday we do an ART multiclass endurance event on Road America and i drive the Ford GT LM GTE.
    And again i minimized and maximized everything, and the only difference i could feel was the more unstable braking on maximum settings. No diffence in cornering or other car behavior.
    So i think our findings from today would be an explanation why i couldn't get my car properly tuned last friday.

    We are driving with the same wheel, Fanatec CSL Elite with loadcell pedals. ( i have the newer ps4 version)

    Any help is appreciated.
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    Hi Rossi, sorry you are having issues. Where do you have your FFB set up? Have you installed any other profiles like Jack Spade's? Attached is mine. Where is your "Volume " and "FX" set?
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    I am currently using RAW with settings 100-40-50-50-0.40

    I have also tried the Jack Spade file "ffb_custom_settings - stan mid comp" but i get some oscilation in my wheel on the straights.
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    Phew, I can turn most of my cars into smoking pretzels with the tuning. Hopefully someone that had a problem similar to yours will see this. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blinkngone View Post
    Phew, I can turn most of my cars into smoking pretzels with the tuning. Hopefully someone that had a problem similar to yours will see this. Sorry.
    No worries dude, thnx for your time.
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    Don't know if this helps, I found if I save over existing setup nothing happens but if I save to new slot it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttb57 View Post
    Don't know if this helps, I found if I save over existing setup nothing happens but if I save to new slot it works.
    I always do this, after it is saved i always check it again to be sure.
    Or i make a completely new setup save with the name "Min Settings Test" or "Max Settings Test"
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    FFB slider Tone is your link to the car wheels and what they are doing, I have found that most high downforce cars need a lower tone while lower downforce cars need a higher tone, Some cars do not like a low tone setting and a balanced tone can leave cars feeling bland and lifeless at best.

    For a car like the 488GT3 i use a tone between 10 and 20 and something like the G40J i use a tone of around 60 maybe more.

    We really need a per car ffb tweaking to make sure we get all the right forces for the car we choose.

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    "good feeling" is pretty vague man.

    and w/o knowing what the setup was, somewhat hard to help.

    I will say this for road america. get your mechanical grip package right and you can run very little aero in the car and still turn a decent lap time. If you haven't done so already, d/l Jussi's calculator to get a baseline setup going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr View Post
    "good feeling" is pretty vague man.

    and w/o knowing what the setup was, somewhat hard to help.

    I will say this for road america. get your mechanical grip package right and you can run very little aero in the car and still turn a decent lap time. If you haven't done so already, d/l Jussi's calculator to get a baseline setup going.
    But this is our main problem, i can't notice any difference when i change springs, dampers and other suspension related settings.
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