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    Intel processor flaw

    Hey all. Just an FYI. Any computer literate folks out there I'm sure can illuminate this issue into a context for us racing folk. Cheers

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    Server systems will be affected by upcoming fixes. There are some patches out now, but games seem to not be affected by this. This only affect Intel users, so AMD users are not affected at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Flare View Post
    Server systems will be affected by upcoming fixes. There are some patches out now, but games seem to not be affected by this. This only affect Intel users, so AMD users are not affected at all.

    https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...inux-4.15-Test


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    Im keeping an eye on the Intel subreddit since I heard about this: https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/
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    I can't remember where I saw it, but I read that because of AMD's difference in architecture, they are not affected by the security flaw. They are being reported as "insecure" because they are also x86 based. That's why I said AMD users are not affected, but unfortunately, everyone is going to be affected because of Intel's mistakes.

    EDIT: I found it.

    To be clear, the security research team identified three variants targeting speculative execution. The threat and the response to the three variants differ by microprocessor company, and AMD is not susceptible to all three variants. Due to differences in AMD's architecture, we believe there is a near zero risk to AMD processors at this time.
    AMD is also being asked to be excluded from the fixes because of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Flare View Post
    This only affect Intel users, so AMD users are not affected at all.
    The way i heard it, the OS fixes will actually impact AMD processors as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristi View Post
    The way i heard it, the OS fixes will actually impact AMD processors as well.
    I was talking about how the security flaw is an Intel problem, not an AMD problem. Unfortunately, AMD will be affected unless they can get the excluded from the fixes, like they're asking for.
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    Wow, I read stuff like this and immediately think of self driving cars and other automated processes and think, 10 years from now a headline that says “you’ve all been riding around in death chariots, patch coming next week”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawndarts View Post
    “you’ve all been riding around in death chariots”.



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    I read yesterday that at least on Linux AMD will get excluded when the patches are ready. The patches should really only affect programs that heavily use kernel routines, not mostly usermode programs, like games. Linux will surely get a switch to not use the patches. I haven't read anything about Windows though.

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    "At least for Linux and Windows, these patches allow end-users to opt out if they would prefer. The most vulnerable users are probably cloud service providers; Meltdown and Spectre can both in principle be used to further attacks against hypervisors, making it easier for malicious user to break out of their virtual machines.

    For typical desktop users, the risk is arguably less significant. While both Meltdown and Spectre can have value in expanding the scope of an existing flaw, neither one is sufficient on its own to, for example, break out of a Web browser"
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