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    Boss 302R1 GT4

    Anyone else having trouble driving this car? No matter what I adjust, the car still wants to spin mid corner, or coming out of a corner. Just when I thought I had the hang of setups, I can't seem to tame this stang. Any help is appreciated!
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    Try the 'instant newbie fix' which is:

    Toe at the front to something huge like -0.5 and then set Toe at the rear to something huge like +0.8.

    Now it should drive very differently and be almost impossible to spin unless you mash the throttle.

    Another newbie fix:

    Set front Camber to a much smaller value than the rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awaite85 View Post
    Anyone else having trouble driving this car? No matter what I adjust, the car still wants to spin mid corner, or coming out of a corner. Just when I thought I had the hang of setups, I can't seem to tame this stang. Any help is appreciated!

    Hi awaite85, as you probably already know the rear toe on the 302R isn't adjustable., neither is the rear camber.
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    Search here for a setup I can get for you to try if you want. http://cars2-stats-steam.wmdportal.c...cle=1111049682

    Here is Tailgater's damper and LSD from a Long Beach run, if you would like to try some settings, notice he has reduced the front ARB.
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    Another Damper possibility is this with reduced camber, arb and track bar.
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    Last edited by blinkngone; 25-01-2018 at 00:26.
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    Aww crap.. yeah, if neither toe nor camber is adjustable it gets a lot more tricky. Then it's down to the ordinary stuff like ARB and springs. Can't "massage" the setup as effectively that way though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanic View Post
    Aww crap.. yeah, if neither toe nor camber is adjustable it gets a lot more tricky. Then it's down to the ordinary stuff like ARB and springs. Can't "massage" the setup as effectively that way though.
    Yeah, this car is a PITA, there are much better GT4s to chose from. Even the Mustang RTR GT4 is easier than the 302R.
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    Perhaps yawl should know the S197 Mustang has a solid rear axle, while the S550 Mustang has a independent rear suspension. The Boss 302 is a S197, and the RTR is a S550...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visceral_Syn View Post
    Perhaps yawl should know the S197 Mustang has a solid rear axle, while the S550 Mustang has a independent rear suspension. The Boss 302 is a S197, and the RTR is a S550...
    Yep, but something happened to the 302 when it came to PC2. In PC1 I could drive it to an equal time at most tracks to the AM Vantage GT4. Now it is a pain. What do you think is making it so difficult to drive?
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    Yeah, it's also something i'm interested in.

    It break my heart that the 302 isn't as competitive right now. With the default loose setup, i can't be competitive. If i try to tune the setup(i'm not good), i always end up with something worst in a specific thing

    I'm trying to tune to sugo, since it's a track with long bends and prone to front tire burning.
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    I think if you keep spinning on corner exit diff settings should be the first thing you want to adjust, so try increasing power ramp angle a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich1e I View Post
    I think if you keep spinning on corner exit diff settings should be the first thing you want to adjust, so try increasing power ramp angle a bit.
    Hi rich1e I, the LSD for this car is the combination Geared and Clutch, the ramps are at 90 but the geared ratios both are at 3.0. I quit running the combination LSD myself so are you recommending going with the Clutch only as well? Or are you wanting to suggest just changing the Bias Ratio Power on the Geared LSD to something like 5.0? Would you happen to have an Clutch LSD setup you have run with the 302R to share or are just wanting someone else to try it?

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    Last edited by blinkngone; 25-01-2018 at 14:40.
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