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    Making the switch from XBox.

    Hello everyone,

    I think I'm going to make the switch to PC, but I need some help first. Mainly in picking a suitable PC. I've been doing lots of research over the last couple weeks both here and elsewhere, but I just seem to be confusing myself further. It's been years since I've researched PC's and their components, and at that time I was only ensuring it'd run Photoshop/Lightroom smoothly, which was mainly having enough RAM.

    From my research it seems that the most important considerations for Sim Racing games are processor and GPU. Coincidentally, these are also the main components that make my head spin

    So, what I want from the PC:
    • It will only be used for gaming.
    • I want to play in VR. *Not going for VR anymore*
    • I want to be able to record on track footage.
    • I want things to run smoothly.
    • I want something that will give me 2-3 years of gaming before I need to upgrade parts (if that's possible).


    What's not important to me:
    • I'm OK with not running games at 100% of their graphic capabilities.
    • 4K. I don't have any 4K displays and no plans to acquire any. 1080 is fine by me.


    Ideally I'd like to purchase a pre-built system as PC stuff isn't my strong point, but I do have enough technical skills to assemble the rig if the savings are great enough. If possible I'd like to keep the system at or under $1000 CAD, but I'm not sure if that's a realistic goal In terms of a system that will support VR, is there much difference in price to one that won't but will still run the game fine?

    Thanks in advance for any help!
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    $1000 CAD is going to be cutting it close and won't really give you something that will have 2-3 year span. I would highly recommend increasing your budget to around $1500 CAD.

    As far as systems, there are places online that you can "configure" a system where they will build it and send it to you. One I have had family members use in the past is:

    https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/
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    Are you including the VR headset in that price or just the pc. You can build a system that is VR capable for cheaper but this game takes a lot to run so you'd have to lower quality a lot to get 90fps.

    If you were looking for a prebuilt, check out some of the iBuyPower systems at best buy. You can also get from their site and customize more. On the best buy site they will show if they are VR ready. They are nice because they don't come with any junk installed like you'd get on most prebuilt. You might be able to build one slightly cheaper with the same components but they are pretty fairly priced (even better when gpu prices were much higher).

    If you really want something that will last you a couple years, you might be better saving a little longer and getting the best components you can. VR is going to keep needing more and there will be newer headsets out probably in the next year.
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    Thanks for the replies Mahjik and g.stew. I'm not including the headset in the price, and I would be OK with upping the amount to get the right system. $1000 was just a goal. I'll check out cyberpowerpc and iBuyPower this evening.

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    I've been looking at the CyberPowerPC and iBuyPower stuff. Is there an advantage to an Intel powered unit versus AMD Ryzen? Also the GTX 1060 seems to be in most of the ones I've looked at, is that a strong GPU? What part of the system dictates if it'll support VR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPenguin87 View Post
    I've been looking at the CyberPowerPC and iBuyPower stuff. Is there an advantage to an Intel powered unit versus AMD Ryzen? Also the GTX 1060 seems to be in most of the ones I've looked at, is that a strong GPU? What part of the system dictates if it'll support VR?
    I had a family member purchase an iBuyPower system a few years ago. I was not impressed with their assembly quality (as well as their packing). This was many years ago, so things could be different today.

    As far the GPU, the 1060 is the middle of the road right now. It's not the most powerful GPU, but it's not the weakest either. Anything higher is going to be almost your $1000 CAD budget on the GPU alone. If you can afford it, the 1080 is the best bang for the buck right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahjik View Post
    I had a family member purchase an iBuyPower system a few years ago. I was not impressed with their assembly quality (as well as their packing). This was many years ago, so things could be different today.
    I can't say how they were in the past, but I just got one a few weeks ago and was very impressed. I would normally build my own system but I had some rewards for best buy I wanted to use and the pricing wasn't that much different really. They had a lot of really good reviews and seemed to be very responsive to any issues both in the comments on best buy's site and their subreddit. They are basically just sourcing different parts and building systems really, but the packaging and overall presentation was much better than I expected. They include all the manuals, discs, etc for the individual components, and the best part is that you boot into a new windows install with nothing installed on it.

    If you are up for building your own system, then definitely do that, but if not, they are a few similar options out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mahjik View Post
    As far the GPU, the 1060 is the middle of the road right now. It's not the most powerful GPU, but it's not the weakest either. Anything higher is going to be almost your $1000 CAD budget on the GPU alone. If you can afford it, the 1080 is the best bang for the buck right now.
    Unfortunately there never seems to be a good time to buy the best video card. You just have to decide if you'll be happy knowing there is something you could have got that would give you better quality. The steps up in quality on most cards are noticeable so that's up to you to decide. If you check the Oculus site you can see the minimum system specs. I expect to have upgraded my 1080Ti in the next 2-3 years with changes hopefully coming for VR quality.

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    I have been getting my parts from NewEgg, building systems for myself/family. There prices are pretty good compared to some other sellers. (Canada).
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    They also build systems.,just checked, if that's they way you would prefer to go.
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    Check also this very recent and related thread:

    http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sho...le)-PC-for-PC2
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    BullWinkle, hello from a fellow East Coaster! I've been browsing NewEgg and have bought from them in the past. They carry the brands I've been looking at so far, so if I can I'll likely buy from them since they're a known quantity to me.

    cpcdem, thanks for the link. I've read through that thread a few times and picked up lots of helpful info.

    Mahjik, thanks for the info and heads-up on iBuyPower. If I spend the money I want to know I'm getting good quality in all facets so I appreciate the info. I'm beginning to wonder if maybe I should hold off on VR for the moment and instead focus on getting up to speed on PC and all the in's and out's that come with them. I don't want to jump into the deep end and overwhelm myself, and potentially end up ruining the experience for myself and regretting all the money spent. I'm confident that I will like VR, but I have no problems playing on a screen for the time being and the VR experience will only get better as I go. If I were to buy a PC not designed for VR, what components would I have to upgrade in the future to enable support?
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