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    Hydrogen for engines?

    whats next a Sprite Cranberry?
    you're not supposed to go into the light, you're supposed to drift around it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXPITVIPER1 View Post
    Hydrogen for engines?

    whats next a Sprite Cranberry?
    Yes. Internal combustion engines, with the right ratio of oxygen, can burn any fluid that is flammable and produce mechanical power.
    Not efficiently but it can be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christiaan van Beilen View Post
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    I don't know what to say other than scream, this is too exciting!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christiaan van Beilen View Post
    Now if they would come up with a solution to make rotaries last longer (new apex seals anyone? ) and burn less oil, then I'd be interested. But a nearly mandatory engine revision every 50 - 60k miles is unacceptable for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invincible View Post
    Now if they would come up with a solution to make rotaries last longer (new apex seals anyone? ) and burn less oil, then I'd be interested. But a nearly mandatory engine revision every 50 - 60k miles is unacceptable for me.
    The series 2 renesis motors ('09+ rx8) added a 3rd oil injection port in the housing so they get much better engine life. The series 1 Renesis last ~100k miles before needing new seals, on average. I have a series 1 with ~96,000km on it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hkraft300 View Post
    The series 2 renesis motors ('09+ rx8) added a 3rd oil injection port in the housing so they get much better engine life. The series 1 Renesis last ~100k miles before needing new seals, on average. I have a series 1 with ~96,000km on it now.
    I know that the series 2 is better, but still. A few years ago I was really interested in getting an RX8 and read through some German rotary forums and they pretty often failed after around 50 - 60 k miles or 100k km. Probably due to more Autobahn, Idk. And because, at that time, I was driving roughly 20 - 25k miles a year, the short lifespan (anything lower than at least 200k miles is too short) ruled the RX8 out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invincible View Post
    I know that the series 2 is better, but still. A few years ago I was really interested in getting an RX8 and read through some German rotary forums and they pretty often failed after around 50 - 60 k miles or 100k km. Probably due to more Autobahn, Idk. And because, at that time, I was driving roughly 20 - 25k miles a year, the short lifespan (anything lower than at least 200k miles is too short) ruled the RX8 out.
    Mazda made a mistake at some point with outsourcing the manufacture of the renesis that were failing at 30-50k miles.
    Either way with that long a commute a renesis is no good: it's as thirsty on fuel as an LS-sized V8, but without the power to match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hkraft300 View Post
    Either way with that long a commute a renesis is no good: it's as thirsty on fuel as an LS-sized V8, but without the power to match.
    True. And on top of that, it needs more oil too. Around 0,8-1,3 liter per 1k miles iirc.

    On topic: I don't really know if hydrogen will really be a thing. BMW stopped development after some tests in 2009, other manufacturers (besides Toyota maybe) also aren't pushing for it either.
    Specifically with the hydrogen-combustion engines, they haven't really solved the lubrication issue yet.
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    I don't see combustion hydrogen happening. Fuel cell and electric is more efficient.
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