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    Playseat® SMS-R Series Challenger

    Nice first qualifing session Playseat® SMS-R Series Challenger. I'm very surprised to see more than 800 players on this event, with incredible fast times.

    Some thoughts that I want to share with you:

    • I didn't expect so many players. Probably awards helps, but it's a good move to keep comunity alive. I encorage organizer to continue in the future with more events like this.
    • In the top of the list, only 3 of the 15 fastest players uses in-car camera. It's very extrange because in-car camera players are most, but the top of the list are players with external camera.
    • With this car and circuit, I've seen than stable setup was slightly faster than loose. I could improve my times about 0.5 seconds after changing to stable setups, but too late for me because I discovered in the last minute.

    I don't know if fastest players uses external camera, or external camera for some reason makes you faster, but I'm intrigued. I don't know the camera they are using, probably bonnet camera. Also I recomend you to try both default setups for next event, because that could make some differences and loose isn't necesarely the fastest, as I thought. I'll try yo test both things for the next event and post my impressions for if it helps someone.

    You can post your comments in this thread.

    Next combo now active, is Red Bull Ring GP with same car. Good luck!
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    Yeah, nice to see many players! External camera is slightly faster, because you can see more of the road. Not bumper camera though, they (and I, for TT) use bonnet or roof, although I would not be very surprised if some people even use the chase camera!

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    Hi, I'm one of the three qualified who used the inside view. In my opinion with the external view you have no advantage, it's just a matter of habit and points of reference. Good luck for next qualify rounds, I hope we will see at the shootout in algarve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SRI Bricco View Post
    Hi, I'm one of the three qualified who used the inside view. In my opinion with the external view you have no advantage, it's just a matter of habit and points of reference. Good luck for next qualify rounds, I hope we will see at the shootout in algarve.
    Although I agree that good technique and proper use of reference points remain the same despite the view, using some external cam views such as the chase cam can give a slight advantage in that the field of view is a lot wider and the driver can see a lot further ahead. This slows things down quite a bit for an individual making it easier to react to all the information on track. Using cockpit cam the correct thing to do would be to focus on the apex while depending on peripheral vision to pick up references such as braking and turn-in points. Using chase cam this is easier, you can even see the exit for some corners that are meant to be blind lol but on the other hand chase cam feels weird and disconnected but that's only for me but that in itself is enough disadvantage to maybe balance it out I guess lol. I do understand however that there are some people who can not play in cockpit mode because it makes them literally sick so for that reason I don't see anything wrong with anyone using it. Whatever makes you comfortable, to be fair it still takes skill and a level of commitment to be fast no matter which camera view is used.
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    As one of the fastest in the list, could you confirm if you've used stable setups for your lap?
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    Stable setup confirmed but times are very close between two setups

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    Thanks. It will be interesting in the next track (a very fast one), if it happens the same.
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    Many of those listed as "external" cam use the bonnet cam, which should be in a separate category. External should only be bumper cam or behind the car.
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    With external cams being central, they may help judge track cutting better as, in theory at least, you have to keep the centre of the car inside the outer edge of the kerb.
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    Lovely competition, I was blown away by the speed of the top guys. In my opinion FWD is easy-mode for both drivers and car designers, my mistakes were much safer than the ones I would have made in an RWD car. But it doesn't take away from the racing in the end.
    I don't think stable would have helped me though, I never got the back end out.

    My preference in pCARS2 is bonnet cam at 90 degree FoV in my current setup. It seems like other people got that to work as well. Everyone has a different screen, they should be able to set a FoV that fits that setting.
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