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    New Ryzen 3000

    I'm not fan of AMD (rather the opposite), but after watching the presentation of the Ryzen 3000 series I'm impressed.

    Intel is asleep from many years ago with no innovations and still manufacturing their CPUs in 14nm. Expensive prices, problems of stock, and forcing users to change MoBo in every gen, was caused for the lack of competence in the CPU market.

    The new AMD processors manufactured in 7nm, are much more efficient and now have more performance per core than Intel ones (that was the most importan trouble for AMD in gaming) . Also the prices announced are very reasonable, and you have more performance for less money. Despite the loyalty of Intel consumers, somebody in Intel's headquarters has to press the panic button because they was totally surpased.



    Hope some day happens the same in the GPU market, because nVidia's domain make us paying abusive prices.

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    Really whats not to like about AMD ? I've never owned any AMD products but really couldn't care less what i have in my system as long as it works for what i paid for . I have an Intel 7700k that now im supposed to turn hyper-threading Off to stay safe from hackers !! Talk about not getting what i paid for ! May as well put my 6600k back in , lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDad View Post
    Really whats not to like about AMD ? I've never owned any AMD products but really couldn't care less what i have in my system as long as it works for what i paid for . I have an Intel 7700k that now im supposed to turn hyper-threading Off to stay safe from hackers !! Talk about not getting what i paid for ! May as well put my 6600k back in , lol
    I always keep away from AMD for 2 reasons: The performace per core that was low compared with Intel, and the high temps that CPUs had in previous gens. But now is different, AMD is doing things very well and it's innovating in design and manufacturing. In the other side, Intel is doing very bad with many security holes as you comment, the lack of innovation, and the abusive practices they usually do.

    About last point, in Intel gen8 CPUs they created the new socket 1151v2 with extra pins only to make it incompatible with previous motherboards, and sell more chipsets for the MoBos. You can find the evidences in this video, but is something that we all suspect from long time ago. With Intel every new micro needs a new socket but in AMD each socket last 3-4 gens of CPUs.

    About HT, if you have your bios updated and the OS patched, you can enable it. True that patching this security holes reduces the performance, but not as much as disabling HT. The big risk security holes, are those that exists, and we'll never know about them.
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    I moved from a Phenom X6 to 2600k and then to the 3770k I have now. When I originally moved to Intel, it was just a performance upgrade decision. (No "feelings" for either company) After seeing how Intel handled themselves in the absence of competition at the top, I was hoping AMD would get back on top.

    I started my next build at the beginning of the year just waiting to see how Zen 2 turned out. (Case, Fans, power supply, storage) Now I'm very much looking forward to building an AMD rig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinz View Post
    I moved from a Phenom X6 to 2600k and then to the 3770k I have now. When I originally moved to Intel, it was just a performance upgrade decision. (No "feelings" for either company) After seeing how Intel handled themselves in the absence of competition at the top, I was hoping AMD would get back on top.

    I started my next build at the beginning of the year just waiting to see how Zen 2 turned out. (Case, Fans, power supply, storage) Now I'm very much looking forward to building an AMD rig.
    If I had to change, no doubt I'd go for AMD when Ryzen 3000 arrives.
    Also Intel has to drop prices, specially i7 & i9, so the end of the year could be a good moment to upgrade the computer.
    In long term Intel has to design really new CPUs to be competitive again and to hard fix the security holes from last years that reduces the performance.

    About GPUs I'm not so optimistic. NVidia is working hard and they made very good products (but expensive), so the gap is harder to close. They probably has new designs, but probably don't need to use them because is already the best option. I'm sure that if the next AMD GPUs is very powerful, they have an inmediate response.

    Other question is next gen consoles. We don't know if it will have Ryzen 3000 architecture. It would be impressive, and with the big amount of units manufactured, could help AMD to reduce production costs even more makein their products even more competitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asturbo View Post
    Other question is next gen consoles. We don't know if it will have Ryzen 3000 architecture. It would be impressive, and with the big amount of units manufactured, could help AMD to reduce production costs even more makein their products even more competitive.
    From what I've read the new Gen consoles will use Ryzen 3000 architecture along with a Navi GPU.
    But I don't think that the units produced for PS5 and Xbox Two will help lower the prices for the desktop CPUs. They will probably be highly customized so the can be seen as a different product line after all.
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    Until we see some real world benchmarks dont get your hopes up AMD marketing never seems to live up to the end product. - Im not loyal to Intel i just buy what is best for my use case at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinMWWebb View Post
    AMD marketing never seems to live up to the end product.
    The marketing for Vega fell flat for sure, but Polaris and it's refreshes and the previous gen Ryzen marketing was as close as you're going to get from any company to real world performance numbers.

    It's important not to confuse community hype and rumours with official marketing numbers.
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    I was telling my wife that the demonstrations were surely "cherry-picked" to favor AMD and she asked why I would get so excited about the new chips then...

    I explained that the fact that AMD can now beat Intel in *any* single-threaded benchmark (cherry-picked or not) is reason to get excited.

    I'm not pre-ordering, but my wallet is just waiting for more use-specific benchmarks. (Also want to see benchmarks with the Intel security mitigation in place)

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